Mafiastuck (GAME OVER TOWN WINS!)

[Pandorica]

confirm

[Pandorica]

Just posting to say confirm in thread is stupid and I hate it. For further reference look here

Anyone who posts in tics or anything annoying will be insta voted.

[Pandorica]

Vote noir

[Pandorica]

Alduskkel is always like that. Doesn't mean he's scum.

it also doesn't mean he's town fos: nikanor

[Pandorica]

i actually for real already hate myself

[Pandorica]

i'm just trying to puruse inquiries ok

[Pandorica]

pursue

stop giving me grief

[Pandorica]

i assumed it was also common knowledge that i only fos when i'm not serious too

(I have a post restriction where I must attempt to post 3 times in a row whenever possible)

[Pandorica]

Please ignore Faraday. He's a moron. I need to control him.

[Pandorica]

"I have a made-up post restriction where I always make a bunch of worthless posts in a row."

FTFY

i'm literally a professional mafia player please don't insult me by calling my posts worthless.

Yeah, there's no PR there. Suspicion has begun.

why?

Please ignore Faraday. He's a moron. I need to control him.

Noted.

NOTING WHAT?

Vote Noir

cool alt, guy

[Pandorica]

Why is doing dumb shit a towntell? Do dumb people have more of a chance to roll town?

yes. + having a town pm lowers your intelligence

[Pandorica]

Can you do that to the scum?

Which alignment do you prefer cheery dog?

(3rd post in a row)

[Pandorica]

Agree with whoever said wutlolski’s “this is good!”, “this is bad!” feels forced. Though might just be playstyle so w/e.

he's obviously a fucking gimmick alt

noir is scum anyway

vote: noir

[Pandorica]

Why Phill is scum:

His #116 confirmation post feels incredibly awkward and his #126 is a lame attempt to slide onto the burgeoning Alsark FoS wagon that was based on hollow logic.

Now vote him please.

126 is talking about my post restriction what are you on about. it's pretty bad but not scummy. his confirmation is scummy but i think he's just sort of an awkward guy in mafia based on reading a few of his games.

[Pandorica]

well okay you're wrong

[Pandorica]

Dude, Mods aren't dumb.

If titan honestly believes that this game can be broken by mod distribution then he is a total idiot.

Seriously, if Gorrad has been around long enough to Mod a large theme and can't properly distribute roles, then I will eat my hat.

this sounded kinda townish nikanor. what don't you like?

[Pandorica]

well okay you're wrong

That was a ice cold response

I actually felt bad after typing it but didn't want to say sorry as i'd come across as a fucking coward

[Pandorica]

wtf bro is that all you have to say

[Pandorica]

r u scum deasvail

[Pandorica]

nope but you should look townier b/c atm idk about you

[Pandorica]

arthur you're fucking dumb if you continue this argument

[Pandorica]

Dude, Mods aren't dumb.

If titan honestly believes that this game can be broken by mod distribution then he is a total idiot.

Seriously, if Gorrad has been around long enough to Mod a large theme and can't properly distribute roles, then I will eat my hat.

this sounded kinda townish nikanor. what don't you like?

that post can safely be made by either alignment wtf are you smoking

it seems like something more likely for town to post. (fyi someone mentioned his tone, I find it p null i think he kinda posts like a hall monitor type in general)

i kinda have rubik's as townish for somethinng he said earlier. the second post titan quoted is p bad but i'm not really sure.

[Pandorica]

Are you serious paschendale

[Pandorica]

Not sure how I'm supposed to use my power of converting people into vanilla townies during confirmation phase if we can't talk during confirmation phase.

This is what stood out to me the most. A roleclaim before the game had even started? And an extremely town-aligned role to claim. Sounds fishy to me.

Vote: Alsark

Plus if it's a power limited to confirmation phase, there's no way to verify or counterclaim.

i take that back this is a very good point

[Pandorica]

VOTE: NumberQ

Also, sunman is badman.

And I don't like the rubik guy either.

PEdit: Well that was easy.

yes!!!

VOTE: sunman

why you not bote him you say he badman?

why sunman bad man? sunman look nullman me. why you think different?

pandorica speak ok?

[Pandorica]

^ That was scummy.

No?

[Pandorica]

Hey pandorica, I wanna know who's town.

It's kind of implicit from my posts mostly. Arthur's stupid random thing looks town, roboctopter's ++ now town as I don't think he'd have the balls to self vote as scum. porfervor are also town for the early claim. vifam reads town too.

explain your wutloski read arthur? if it's the gimmick it was obvious from the sign up thread he was gonna run a gimmick don't see how that's useful

[Pandorica]

titan can be town for now for post 244 among others

paschendale copping out on diddling his dick in 254 and 255; 255 is kind of nice but it looks like an afterthought, which saps its merit. actually post 254 was just inexcusably bad. it just sucked, it sucks

xtopherusd gets a free pass for autistically formatted Post Sundaes

torgonitoh should be force-replaced for being a cancer

post 277, god ser arthur dayne really sucks dick, i'm sorry to invoke the dick but he really sucks. man

vifam and porfervor are cool so they can stay

vote sticks; combinatorialenigma's vote for me was horrible and so was post 223 http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p4446862 everyone please read this stupid post

you're bad.

[Pandorica]

I think the reason the reads aren't coming easy for me this game is because it's basically filled with either ultra serious posters that come off as contrived in their reasoning tonally, players who behave in a relatively scripted fashion, gimmick accounts, or all of the above at once.

which of these categories am i?

[Pandorica]

Actually every cheery dog post seems super forced so far and like he doesn't know how to settle. He's probably scum. Voting from a phone is a pain but you should all vote him.

[Pandorica]

hello. should be obvious what typing quirk I'm using. anyway, I see nothing so far in terms of reads. it's all very confusing so far, and Robo's selfvote just makes it all the more confusing. i'll wait an IRL day or so and get back with some reads.

This is bad why did no-one else pick up on it.

Phillammon is terribad. Like, really really really terribad. He keeps pushing this "2nd/3rd on wagon = scum" which is stupid in a game this size. With 16 to lynch the chances of scum being 2nd/3rd are lower. It works fine in mini games but not in a game this big lol.

Otherwise I agree somewhat with Faraday, and this game is making me angry.

-Nexus.

[Pandorica]

Oh also Paschendale is awful too.

Predit: and Sora keeps continuing to be bad.

How can you not have any real townreads now? when are you going to be useful? When we hit 100 pages? Die.

[Pandorica]

Shiiiiit so much spam.

Vote: Pandorica

this is a bad vote.

Do you have nothing else to comment on? If you don't, please stop posting.

-Nexus

[Pandorica]

Arthur and Nik you're p wrong on Robocopter. Very much doubt he'd do the whole trolling this as scum here.

You guys wanna vote Cheer Dog with me?

[Pandorica]

kill yourself

dude you're fucking ice cold what's wrong with you I have a family

[Pandorica]

All these other wagons (Except for the one on Q which is kind of legit) are pretty bad.

do you have a read on Noir?

his 2 content posts so far have been pretty awful. the first one was just chastising people about easy shit

actually i read his second one again and maybe it's not so bad, he could be just a cool guy type so w/e

vote: cheery dog

[Pandorica]

snipe

I think the reason the reads aren't coming easy for me this game is because it's basically filled with either ultra serious posters that come off as contrived in their reasoning tonally, players who behave in a relatively scripted fashion, gimmick accounts, or all of the above at once.

which of these categories am i?

p sure it's none of the above for you but why do you care

i just felt left out.

@ other head you must be confusing me with vezokpiraka. + just read nexus it's p easy.

[Pandorica]

Eh. I haven't enjoyed a mafia game in quite a while don't be like that.

[Pandorica]

OMFG Pandorica is so scum

stop being bad

[Pandorica]

well you didn't ask yet how do you know?

[Pandorica]

447 was art, alright

[Pandorica]

i don't think he's scummy. he had an early post that looked town. he's had one or 2 bad posts but i think he's not a particularly good player so I don't really care.

cheery dog looks far more awkward than paschendale

[Pandorica]

he just seems akward here which makes no sense given the pregame was full of mostly bullshit banter so his continued awkwardness makes me think he's scum

[Pandorica]

well it's that + the awkwardness which is the main part of it. which part do you disagree with?

[Pandorica]

With Rubik it was the Noir vote and the Nacho suspicion retraction for me, but I've actually ISOd him and kinda agree with Pandorica, so...

Unvote: Combinatorial

Sunshine:

Where did Pasch say he was kidding?

I would probably vote Cheery Dog here, but

Vote: Vifam

Well I didn't really say a lot on him did I? but you should probably vote cheery dog anyway

[Pandorica]

That was really strange DeasVail.

[Pandorica]

Who is ζ why is he not on the OP and if I say something like "vote: weird sign guy" will that be allowed?

So that's me read up to the end of p1. These questions can be answered while I read further...

he's lowercasezeta

[Pandorica]

That was really strange DeasVail.

In a good way or in a bad way?

Neither, really. Were you trying to fake a town tell or something? it felt a forced attempt to appear erratic and make people think you were town.

[Pandorica]

Really I just decided that voting Vifam was not going to get me anywhere else.

oh i was talking about the vote on vifam/find me town thing not switching to cheery that was fine

[Pandorica]

that was me lemon not nexus

[Pandorica]

robocopter i didn't click your links but those seem pretty bad reasons to call vifam town. it's w/e though I guess

[Pandorica]

no don't do quotes what the fuck. we get it.

[Pandorica]

Bazinga.

come on

^

[Pandorica]

Kk guys caught three scums for you Robo/Faranex/Phill you literally can’t fuck this up if you try.

yeah we're golden as long as we don't lynch your suspects. (well maybe phil idk but my rhetoric loses it's effectiveness if i admit that)

[Pandorica]

actually wat

did you read the same 540 i did? how is he trying to use other's thoughts when AV didn't give any thoughts? he's basically endorsing lemon's vote.

sora's also pretty obviously not a troll if you actually read his posts

[Pandorica]

and nacho you should read the thread and stuff it's pretty fun (kinda)

[Pandorica]

you seem a pretty optimistic type of guy if i may say so

[Pandorica]

Whining about people posting single line posts isn't going to stop them posting it.

I'd prefer twenty pages of one line posts to a single page of wall posts. They're infinitely more annoying. Why take a hundred words to say something when one sentence will do just fine.

-Nexus

[Pandorica]

Hmm ok.

Unvote: Vifam

Vote: Cheery Dog

That was really strange DeasVail.

!!!!!!!!!!!

+1

VOTE: DeasVail

Why is that voteworthy?

Unvote, vote paschendale

[Pandorica]

lord jesus

[Pandorica]

save us from our sins

[Pandorica]

Gonna have to ask Pandorica how sure he is on the "Robo wouldn't have the balls" claim @ #396.

Fairly sure? I don't really know what you want me to say. I'd not have said it, if I wasn't reasonably confident.

[Pandorica]

Wow, didn't thinnk there would be this many pages...

Anyway, from what I read, DeasVail really sticks out to me. The quick vote hop without explanation seems bad

Vote:DeasVail

which vote hop are you even talking about?

[Pandorica]

it was obvious why he switched his vote though? well whatever i guess.

[Pandorica]

well i thought he kinda just sucked initially but his vote on dv is just bad and he doesn't even follow up on anything he said in his last post or even mention anything

[Pandorica]

cheery dog's latest vote sucks really fucking badly too but this is 30 players so it's gonna be multiscum anyway

[Pandorica]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go i mean I don't think paschendale looks completely incompetent here so it can't be just that? cheery dog's in that game too actually.

[Pandorica]

ok. why are deasvail's votes cop outs and why is 'nonsense' scummy?

[Pandorica]

B) You never explained why you suspected pandorica in the first place. Please do.

(that's not true)

[Pandorica]

C) Why does your interaction with pandorica read fake as shit?

(also probably because he's posturing?)

[Pandorica]

Much better.

Dude, I tried to tell them that I was caught scum but they told me to stop.

So now we all have to assume I'm obviously town.

can you stop posting before you get vigged for being retarded?

[Pandorica]

well it means you're less likely to be vigged cheery dog which is problematic

[Pandorica]

Why does me not being vigged become problematic?

you cannot be this dense

[Pandorica]

robocopter make yourself useful if you're around and vote paschendale to speed this up

[Pandorica]

I legit have no idea how you guys are finding me scummy here. I'm really completely at a loss for how you discern alignment out of a game so stuffed with garbage that nobody even looks like they're trying.

I'll just replace out and you guys can play with someone who understands how these big games work. And I'll probably avoid them in the future. They're not nearly as fun for me as I thought they would be.

Mod: I'd like to be replaced.

waht.

This is so out of order, whatever your alignment. I'd push it to almost confirm you as scum giving up though.

[Pandorica]

Stop posting

[Pandorica]

that was mean Nexus

[Pandorica]

ISO Pasch and laugh. Please just do it.

unvote, Vote: Paschendale

I don't think I need to iso him for that to happen.
UNVOTE: ]
VOTE: paschendale

In games this size and this early, who is found the most scummy is probably mostly random, even though were well past rvs

although really it looked like you were super confident when you first voted him and 'didn't need to iso him' but now it's mostly random but w/e you're just going to respond in a way that infuriates me so w/e

[Pandorica]

wow paschendale has a 2010 join date

[Pandorica]

arthur's line of questioning sucks IMHO

[Pandorica]

also paschendale's replace out feels like scum. he doesn't seem annoyed or angry at getting lynched here which i think town would more likely be. it reminds of godot in that MLP game where he replaced out under pressure

[Pandorica]

Well I wanted to make sure if it was

"there's NO WAY this guy is scum with his meta"
or
"i don't think he's scum with his meta"

oh and somewhere in the middle leaning towards the top? i mean it's conceivable but it'd really shock me.

[Pandorica]

arthur's line of questioning sucks IMHO

by this i mean i don't think the things his talking about are particularly alignment indicative for malp having played with him before. i think I ic'd him actually. poor fucker.

[Pandorica]

Unvote, Vote: DeasVail

damn shame, but the pasch is town as fuck
not rereading today, I guess

Nacho. Man. Come on.

Really Nacho.

[Pandorica]

malpascp's reaction is pretty town

lld claimed scum in always on mafia and was town @ nacho

[Pandorica]

Alright, I have a townread on DeasVail now for two reasons:
1) I think he'd be more likely to postpone voting me to see reactions from other players first had he been scum.
2) I think he'd be less inclined to unvote me so rapidly had he been scum.

I don't really know if either of these things are true. I kinda think he 'should know better' than to put the vote down in the first place.

[Pandorica]

Maybe buld, I thought some people voted for you though. Just claiming scum when no one suspected you would be a towntell in my opinion.

nacho has just unvoted him

[Pandorica]

ActionDan too?

well honestly actiondan's vote was really dumb so i don't see why he'd feel pressured

[Pandorica]

Alright, I have a townread on DeasVail now for two reasons:
1) I think he'd be more likely to postpone voting me to see reactions from other players first had he been scum.
2) I think he'd be less inclined to unvote me so rapidly had he been scum.

I don't really know if either of these things are true. I kinda think he 'should know better' than to put the vote down in the first place.

I'll rephrase. I think he's more inclined to "know better" when he's scum.

Yeah, you're right actually.

[Pandorica]

Why are you being so self depricating? it's not very attractive

[Pandorica]

PS notice how Malp contradicts himself:

First he says that Blunder can't unclaim because it doesn't work like that:

The hell you are going to unclaim.

And then when Blunder was offered a chance to unclaim and didn't Malp seized the opportunity and called him scummy for not unclaiming:

Drowning in my tunnel? This guy claimed scum. Asked for the chance to unclaim, got it, and rejected it.

this is actually disgusting

[Pandorica]

like there's no way in hell you believe that 'contradiction' is relevant.

i alsoo don't see why 'getting worked up' here is at all scummy? if he believed he had claimed scum legit then why wouldn't he get work?

[Pandorica]

it's fairly obvious arthur's decided that malp is scum and is bs'ing reasons to vote him. i don't know whether he's doing it maliciously or not but it really should stop. malp's reaction looks townish to me. the modkill request + the asking the mod if there were PR's makes it genuine.

[Pandorica]

I know this is a controversial opinion, but I actually love torgonitoh.

Nah, I think he's great too.

[Pandorica]

deasvail what do you think of malp's reaction to the scum claim?

[Pandorica]

like there's no way in hell you believe that 'contradiction' is relevant.

i alsoo don't see why 'getting worked up' here is at all scummy? if he believed he had claimed scum legit then why wouldn't he get work?

B/c he would see that there is a chance (a

huge

chance in this case but w/e) that Blunder might be town.

what is this in response to? i.e. which part? if it's the second that doesn't even make any sense

[Pandorica]

sunman last post on 29th

[Pandorica]

well i more so meant he hadn't been visibly on site so if he's lurking it's a site wide thing. he's probably gonna flake

[Pandorica]

corn flakes!

[Pandorica]

it's fairly obvious arthur's decided that malp is scum and is bs'ing reasons to vote him. i don't know whether he's doing it maliciously or not but it really should stop. malp's reaction looks townish to me. the modkill request + the asking the mod if there were PR's makes it genuine.

Again, it only means he and blunder aren't on the same team. If there's two scum or w/e Malp would still get worked up to try and get a lynch that isn't on his team. Or he could just be pushing a mislynch. It's scummy in either case.

The fact that his posts don't show coherent thought process in attempting to determine whether Blunder is scum or not is scummy. It's like

There is not town thought process: "Oh hey look he claimed scum let me just blow it up and get worked up and just keep posting that he should die without considering anything else. Oh yea because scum just love to claim scum like that. Yea that must be it."

it's like you're just thinking about some fucking ideal town play and not considering that malp might do this as town? him getting worked up over it makes me think he thought he'd found scum. the more you try to explain it as pushing a mislynch or w/e the more confused i get on how you can see it like that.

[Pandorica]

I thought that combined with the modkill thing made it pretty genuine tbh

[Pandorica]

it's like you're just thinking about some fucking ideal town play and not considering that malp might do this as town? him getting worked up over it makes me think he thought he'd found scum. the more you try to explain it as pushing a mislynch or w/e the more confused i get on how you can see it like that.

He "found" scum?! He didn't do anything but start calling for someone's head once they said they're scum like they claimed guilty on their trial or something. He didn't try to analyze it or anything that maybe it can be coming from a town but just started getting riled up and pushing for his lynch.

and scum are more likely to not 'analyze' something in your experience?

[Pandorica]

how are you responding to me with a straight face

[Pandorica]

Vote: Cheery Dog

wanted to stay on paschendale but this fucker needs to get buried six feet under

Stop it. He's not scum.

You just voted Nacho for bad vibes right after Nacho accused you of being scum

UNVOTE: DeasVail
VOTE: Cheery Dog

Seriously. This is the wagon.

Sigh. His aloofness seriously doesn't read as scum.

Actually hold up he might be scum.

Holy cow you are bad. You're calling Malpascpospaif town and Cheery Dog town, but then decide that Cheery Dog is scum in the space of like three posts?

Also your votecounts just come off as scum trying too hard to be helpful.

Cheery Dog is probably scum, malpaspc isn't far behind him, Paschendale is quite obviously scummy and Phillammon is up there.

[Pandorica]

I'm surprised Cheery Dog isn't a bigger wagon right now when everyone professes to hate him while the second highest number of votes is on this cE guy.

well that involve unvoting paschendale and he has more vooooooootes.

[Pandorica]

You claimed scum, you need to be ignored.

Vote: Robocopter87.

Cheery Dog probably scum too.

VOTE: Robocopter87

One scum caught.

WUTLOSKI

(seriously, writing him off as an idiot for claiming scum is a bit much coming from you)

[Pandorica]

I'm a little confused at pandorica and maybe it's because I haven't put in the effort to determine who is writing what, but the way you're responding to arthur is like you've never seen him play before? Like 1003 telling him that his vote counts come off as scum trying to be helpful when it's something that he does in nearly every game, and gets criticized for in every game and still continues to do them in every game, and your acting like you've never seen that. If that's nexus then okay, maybe you haven't but faraday is more acquainted with Arthur's meta than that and the way some of the responses have been its like you don't know his meta or how he approaches games nd reads.

1003 was nexus what apart from that gives you the impression his meta isn't being taken into account? i'm the guy criticising him for his shitty reasoning on malp fyi. what do you think of malp's reaction? (I can't say I remember arthur doing vc's every game but i don't really think it's anything but a null tell and found the vc useful so w/e)

put your vote on pasch or failing that cheery dog please.

[Pandorica]

So I was really busy for a while and then I looked at the thread and it's like 40+ goddamn pages. I'll work on getting through it all, but for the sake of me contributing something worthwhile sooner rather than later can I get a quick summary of what the hell is going on in this game?

Main wagons are, what, Paschendale and CE?

Anyway don't expect a huge catchup post when I actually do slog through everything. 1) I don't want to make a huge catchup post. 2) You guys don't want to read a huge catchup post. 3) You guys

won't

read a huge catchup post.

vote paschendale.

@Arthur's hydra. Meta is bollocks. I don't give a fuck if he does it every game, I don't give a fuck what he does in any other game. I only care about this game. The meta excuse doesn't wash with me.

[Pandorica]

nexus is an alcoholic

[Pandorica]

so where other than 1003 wasn't his meta taken into account again?

[Pandorica]

Yeah, but the way you were criticizing him felt off.

well he was either being dumb or framing malpascp's reaction as some sort of ~bad thing~ for jumping on it when it really wasn't. if you're not reading his posts how is it even fair for you to tell me if my criticism is off or not anyway?

feel free to explain his thought process better then if you can, because I still don't see how it's not him looking for ways to make malp scummy as if town don't hop on things without thinking or something. (I already said I'm not sure it's malicious, since he had a scumread on malp and I can see him trying to fit reasons to malp scum but those reasons were just bad)

or did you must mean not read his earlier posts?

[Pandorica]

malp seems like an angry angry person.

not really just a little highly strung i'd say

[Pandorica]

~bad thing~

By bad i mean scummy as opposed to actually bad. there's no denying it was the latter

[Pandorica]

so where other than 1003 wasn't his meta taken into account again?

Faraday - I said the way you were responding to him felt off. If felt to me like you hadn't seen the way Arthur reads people before. I'm not going to run through the game and go here and here and here. It was just your general tone in your responses that felt off, especially since you said earlier you were reading him as town.

Yeah I was kinda looking for an elaboration on what specifically, but whatever it's not particularly pressing for now. I've seen Arthur recently in ADWD of course, but his agressiveness here looks different than there. It's hard to compare when you've got omnipresent mod knowledge in one game though, it just felt different. It just feels like here he's jumping on tbhings I don't know if I see him believing. The malp suspicion lately is something i've found hard to wrap my head around and even when we kept interacting over it i was left confused as to why it made malp scum.

whoops

[Pandorica]

It was actually before the malp thing, and maybe I'm just reading things extra senstively especially because I'm just not feeling good and he has a scum read on your slot and I don't.

And yeah, I thought you were town earlier for the game breaking thing but the way he's been posting w/r/t malp just left a sour taste in my mouth. it felt rather robotic.

I don't think there was anything wrong with the way I responded to arthur and I don't remember that much interaction with him before malp (well one thing about malp again, actually).

tammy do you have an opinion on cheery dog?

[Pandorica]

I'd say something about it being hilariously easy for scum to lurk, as per usual in large themes, but that might not go well with me having two posts on fortyseven pages. Oh, woops, dearie me, I guess I said it anyway. So, yeah, let's have all us inactives vote for the prominent stupid people, as opposed to the silent stupid people.

why would you feel the need to mention your posts since you're a replacement? not sure why you're so self conscious about that

[Pandorica]

anyway we should lynch tazaro. (his posting like a spazz is a null tell but pasch was scum and so is he)

[Pandorica]

why would you feel the need to mention your posts since you're a replacement? not sure why you're so self conscious about that

You replaced someone who never picked up their role pm, this self-consious of you being a lurker because you've only posted twice is just weird, and saying it in these way is just plain weird, although it doesn't actually really help me get a grasp of your alignment.

i actually don't think is the first time you've basicalkly regurgitated someone's argument but too lazy to check atm

[Pandorica]

zzz let's lynch tazaro

[Pandorica]

if it involves tazaro being town then I probably just ignored it as you're mistaken.

[Pandorica]

well okay that's not actually true i skimmed a fair amount of the last few pages lately too so it could be that

[Pandorica]

the people not voting are failures at life

no thanks taz. i don't think deasvail is scum.

[Pandorica]

I don't think that Tammy would let Arthur be regarded as the dominant head over herself in a scum hydra. Not for a second, nope nope.

nah she totally would.

[Pandorica]

WAIT WAIT WAIT
THIS ISN'T AS BAD AS YOU THINK
For one, he's trying to deflect the lynch onto me when he is afraid of me as town and him scum.
For two, this is a follow up on his earlier suspicion of me.
And the suspicion makes sense! We've played together twice, and both times it was a newbie game so I played my typical newbie town self and not a fucking troll for the first half of the first day.
So he's town!
SO QUIT FUCKING VOTING HIM

pretty sure you're reading this incorrectly. he doesn't even as much as acknowledge the playstyle different between the 2 games, it's fairly obviously not what he's going for.

cheery dog is also scum, yes. maenara is also probably scum. but tazaro has a bigger wagon so it's all good.

[Pandorica]

the point is the acknowledgement isn't based on some percieved change of playstyle from you, it's far more whiny than that. 'why is that guy okay but I'm getting wagoned'.
it seems like you really want to read him as town and it's colouring your vision of the slot to me

[Pandorica]

if this was f2f you'd be sheeping me and this would be easier well okay i think he'll probably get lynched due to people being bored anyway so it's nbd

[Pandorica]

+ his suspicioun of you was obviously phony

[Pandorica]

Yeah, you might not want to/mean for it but it'd be what I'd expect to happen.

[Pandorica]

well cheery dog wagon didn't look like it was going to happen. i'll switch if it's got as many votes though.

[Pandorica]

VOTE: Avox

well this is just a stupid fucking vote why are you being stupid

[Pandorica]

i mean with 16 to lynch being on a 1 or 2 man wagon and not trying to sell it hard is just dumb.

[Pandorica]

It was actually before the malp thing, and

maybe I'm just reading things extra senstively

especially because I'm just not feeling good and he has a scum read on your slot and I don't.

Nice cop out.

F.O.S Titan

Admitting you could be reading something wrong is a cop out? I call it being a grown up.

he's implying you're using weak language so you can keep your stance convenient for later but anyway

[Pandorica]

tammy vote tazaro please

[Pandorica]

Sigh @ replacements. I'm pretty confident that Taz/Maenara/Cheery are all scum atm. Av's actually not a bad place for votes but he's unlikely to be lynched and if you read Tazaro and cheery as scum too then voting them is more productive.

Zdenek vote Tazaro plz.

[Pandorica]

VOTE HIM

[Pandorica]

It was actually before the malp thing, and

maybe I'm just reading things extra senstively

especially because I'm just not feeling good and he has a scum read on your slot and I don't.

Nice cop out.

F.O.S Titan

Admitting you could be reading something wrong is a cop out? I call it being a grown up.

he's implying you're using weak language so you can keep your stance convenient for later but anyway

That's silly though? Who uses weak language purposefully with an eye to potentially change a stance later when you can just easily change your mind and give a reason?

(yes it is) well actually i suppose it could be a way to tiptoe around me in theory. i don't know. he's dead now I'm pretty sure so ding dong the witch is dead etc

[Pandorica]

My name is Tazaro, not Pasch

You're a dead man anyways.

Were you really town though?

if you're first thought after you've been hammered is THAT'S NOT ME then you're probably not town