Mini 1476: Dewey Decimal Mafia (Game Over)

Amrun · Post Post #10 (isolation #0) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:35 pm

VOTE: gorckat

For not coming to Baltomeet.

Darox, get it out of your system now.

Amrun · Post Post #12 (isolation #1) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:43 pm

what in the actual fuck

Amrun · Post Post #13 (isolation #2) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:43 pm

oh

omg

i got my games confused

ignore me, carry on

Amrun · Post Post #17 (isolation #3) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:01 pm

No, it's not, after someone claims scum.

VOTE: TheIrishPope

Let's test that shit.

Amrun · Post Post #42 (isolation #4) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:51 am

In post 34, TheIrishPope wrote:
In post 26, Darox wrote:
Coolguys:

Darox
Amrun
Mr. Flay

Potential Coolguys:

gorckat
spicer1209
Kid A
Ingrid

Disgraced Lamedudes:

notscience
mozamis
Why the fuck
Am I not
On this list

Because the list is about who is wagoning you or not. Obviously.

Amrun · Post Post #62 (isolation #5) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:06 am

Hey spicer

Why are you being so scummy

Amrun · Post Post #65 (isolation #6) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:13 am

Nope. Care to take a guess?

Amrun · Post Post #68 (isolation #7) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:27 am

In post 66, Kid A wrote:hey spicer why are you soft chainsawing for TIP

hey kid a

why are you cheating and giving spicer some answers to his pop quiz

this was a wrong answer, but you're still a dirty CHEATER

Amrun · Post Post #71 (isolation #8) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:44 am

Nope! One more guess.

Chainsawing is attacking someone in order to indirectly defend the person (s)he is attacking.

Amrun · Post Post #73 (isolation #9) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:06 pm

The right answer was poo-pooing actual productiveness while engaging in busy work!!

You have lost, but here is your consolation prize:

VOTE: spicer

Amrun · Post Post #76 (isolation #10) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:21 pm

@mod: Spicer is voting Ingrid

Amrun · Post Post #79 (isolation #11) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:27 pm

In post 77, Mr. Flay wrote:Man, ya'll newbies make NO sense. Why are spicer, moz, and notscience defending the guy who claimed scum? Why is Ingrid posting fluff? Why did TIP claim scum at all?

Claiming scum is like, a new trend to be cute and funny and get "reactions." It's stupid and I hate it and I kind of want to lynch tip just to discourage it but then he's probably town so -sigh-

Amrun · Post Post #82 (isolation #12) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:45 pm

In post 80, TheIrishPope wrote:Huh? I am not trying to be cute. I am not trying to be funny. I am not trying to get "reactions". Claiming scum serves the same purpose as RVS. It is just an excuse to get the game going. Calm your nipples, Amrun.

Yeah, a tongue in cheek way of doing it that I do not like. It muddies the waters and broadens the level of acceptable behavior for scum.

Amrun · Post Post #86 (isolation #13) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:51 pm

In post 83, TheIrishPope wrote:You seriously think that me claiming scum means we lost the game?

Uh, what?

Amrun · Post Post #92 (isolation #14) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:00 pm

In post 87, TheIrishPope wrote:
In post 82, Amrun wrote:It muddies the waters and broadens the level of acceptable behavior for scum.
Here you say that scum can fly under the radar. Or am I mistaken?

I have NO idea what you're trying to say.

What you did is both bad for the meta game and this particular game. I have you as a slight town lean despite of it, not because of it. It is closer to null now because you didn't actually do anything interesting with it.

Amrun · Post Post #94 (isolation #15) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:07 pm

I was talking about the meta game, at that exact moment.

Amrun · Post Post #100 (isolation #16) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:14 pm

Darox.... Do we agree?!

This is such a happy day.

P-edit: I'm p much down with that.

VOTE: theirishpope

Amrun · Post Post #106 (isolation #17) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:25 pm

I liked how he aggressively pursued what people thought of him, at first, but ten he did NOTHING with it.

And then I re-read where he questioned Darox's list and felt increasingly weird about it; if he were town really looking for reactions, wouldn't he note that Darox's list was relative to who was or wasn't on his own wagon?

P-edit:

Omg no

Lynch that

He might be a jester at this point but that still needs to be lynched so whatever

Amrun · Post Post #119 (isolation #18) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:48 pm

In post 115, TheIrishPope wrote:
In post 113, notscience wrote:I personally think the wagon on you is because people are butthurt over your playstyle, not that they think you're scum
They be policy lynching up in this bitch. And that's ok. I don't care. At least my role is confirmable and I will not get lynched.

Why would you ever fucking say this. Ever.

Amrun · Post Post #122 (isolation #19) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:50 pm

In post 121, TheIrishPope wrote:I understand, but I'm not the one to take the full blame.

You actually are.

Even if you end up being town, which I honestly doubt is the case anyway, you can't be trusted in LyLo, so you have to go.

Amrun · Post Post #131 (isolation #20) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:55 pm

Yeah, that's not even close to what's happening, notscience. But okay.

Try talking about who you think is scum. That might help. You haven't done that yet.

This claim cannot be left half claimed anyway, so I don't care what you say. Putting him at L-1 is absolutely the best play for town.

Amrun · Post Post #136 (isolation #21) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:01 pm

You really don't get what's going on right now, do you, notscience?

1 scum between {spicer, notscience}. More likely spicer, obv.

Amrun · Post Post #141 (isolation #22) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:18 pm

notscience, who is scum?

spicer, who is scum?

Amrun · Post Post #143 (isolation #23) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:23 pm

Flay... I'm blushing!

Amrun · Post Post #157 (isolation #24) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:35 pm

In post 145, spicer1209 wrote:
In post 141, Amrun wrote:notscience, who is scum?

spicer, who is scum?
Give me a little time to look over it all and i give you a player by player break down. Sound fair?

Not really -- why are you so concerned about other people's methods of scumhunting if you have no reads yourself?

But do this anyway.

Pope, flavor now, please.

Amrun · Post Post #160 (isolation #25) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:40 pm

You don't have them off hand; you must "come up" with them.

Amrun · Post Post #178 (isolation #26) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:03 pm

In post 165, spicer1209 wrote:
In post 160, Amrun wrote:You don't have them off hand; you must "come up" with them.
So because i like to go over things and double check them its an issue? Ill play my game the way I want to not the way you want me to.

I'm not telling you how to play the game. I'm telling you why I find you scummy, which is, I believe, what you asked me to do.

Amrun · Post Post #180 (isolation #27) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:44 pm

You really think I'm being an asshole? o.O

Amrun · Post Post #182 (isolation #28) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:51 pm

Not even a little bit.

Amrun · Post Post #194 (isolation #29) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:35 am

In post 192, spicer1209 wrote:
In post 190, Mr. Flay wrote:Not sure yet if spicer is dumbscum or dumbtown. Hard to distinguish, might just be a newbie.
Dumb town. I don't know what the fuck the is going on. For some reason my brain doesn't want to work this game. Even I'm reading some of the stuff I'm posting and I'm facepalming myself saying what the fuck is wrong with you dude. I'll snap out of it. Maybe take an adderall and get back into it haha

Apologizing for your own scumminess?

VOTE: spicer

Amrun · Post Post #198 (isolation #30) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:54 am

In post 195, spicer1209 wrote:Apologizing for my own stupidity. There is a difference friend lol. I mean I couldnt count earlier, then I legitly had flays English literature question fly right over my head and I should literally go sit in the corner for that. Just stupid airheaded moments. Unless you feel miscounting and having a dumbass moment a sign of scum.

Those weren't why Flay was calling you dumb scum or dumb town, either, but you apologized to him.

Amrun · Post Post #200 (isolation #31) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:08 am

I actually missed that, somehow.

Like, gorckat is totally right but it just went WOOOSH which is sad since I asked spicer to do the reads in the first place... -sigh- That's what I get for tired posting.

Amrun · Post Post #205 (isolation #32) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:05 am

Darox probably is not scum.

Amrun · Post Post #207 (isolation #33) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:07 am

Nope, I say that because I've played with him before and you're doing exactly what you cried about with TiP: attacking his playstyle rather than scum intention. (Which wasn't the case for me, at least, with tip, btw.)

Amrun · Post Post #209 (isolation #34) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:10 am

Right back at you.

Amrun · Post Post #210 (isolation #35) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:11 am

Why did you say that at that moment, though?

Amrun · Post Post #213 (isolation #36) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:15 am

In post 211, Mr. Flay wrote:Because you're basically posting everything I want to, about half an hour earlier.

Oh. That's always fun.

Amrun · Post Post #217 (isolation #37) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:05 pm

Why u mad

Amrun · Post Post #226 (isolation #38) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:18 pm

TiP, why have you started posting in caps?

Do you have a town read on Darox? Approximately when did it form?

Amrun · Post Post #232 (isolation #39) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:52 pm

False.

Amrun · Post Post #234 (isolation #40) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:54 pm

Also false.

Amrun · Post Post #236 (isolation #41) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:58 pm

In post 235, TheIrishPope wrote:
In post 106, Amrun wrote: P-edit:

Omg no

Lynch that

He might be a jester at this point but that still needs to be lynched so whatever
And now you lie, Amrun? Tsk tsk.

You have to be pretty high to interpret that as an advocation of policy lynching, in my opinion.

Amrun · Post Post #238 (isolation #42) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:03 pm

In post 237, TheIrishPope wrote:
In post 122, Amrun wrote: Even if you end up being town,
which I honestly doubt is the case anyway
, you can't be trusted in LyLo, so you have to go.
Need I quote more?

Nope.jpg

If I think you are so scummy that you might be being intentionally scummy because you are a jester, and if I think that you are probably not town, what does that tell you, if you use your brain instead of your AtE device?

Amrun · Post Post #240 (isolation #43) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:07 pm

...........................................

you have to be kidding, right?

Amrun · Post Post #242 (isolation #44) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:34 pm

I'll answer the question only if you tell me why you think I voted for you then first.

Amrun · Post Post #244 (isolation #45) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:39 pm

...what?

How is spicer relevant at all?

And no, that's not germane to why I voted for you at all.

Amrun · Post Post #245 (isolation #46) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:40 pm

In post 106, Amrun wrote:I liked how he aggressively pursued what people thought of him, at first, but ten he did NOTHING with it.

And then I re-read where he questioned Darox's list and felt increasingly weird about it; if he were town really looking for reactions, wouldn't he note that Darox's list was relative to who was or wasn't on his own wagon?

P-edit:

Omg no

Lynch that

He might be a jester at this point but that still needs to be lynched so whatever

For bonus points, read this post, in which I tell you flat out why I am voting for you! I know that's hard, but I think you can manage it.

Amrun · Post Post #247 (isolation #47) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:42 pm

I just figured out why you brought up spicer; ignore that.

Amrun · Post Post #249 (isolation #48) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:46 pm

Neither of us are confirmed town.

I'd be happiest lynching spicer, but also just dandy with lynching you.

Amrun · Post Post #262 (isolation #49) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:15 am

If it looks like his scumgame, what makes you think it ISN'T his scumgame...?

Amrun · Post Post #265 (isolation #50) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:28 am

Why did you take notscience at his word, gorckat?

Amrun · Post Post #269 (isolation #51) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:01 am

I have played with theirishpope before in a game that just ended, but he had a post restriction so it's hard to say. But he did quickhammer as town and it was BAD.

Amrun · Post Post #272 (isolation #52) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:16 am

Have you played with scum TiP?

Amrun · Post Post #274 (isolation #53) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:48 am

Then you have no room to speak about it.

Amrun · Post Post #275 (isolation #54) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:48 am

*without showing your work

Amrun · Post Post #277 (isolation #55) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:51 am

That's not how things actually work.

Amrun · Post Post #281 (isolation #56) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:56 am

In post 278, notscience wrote:Then how do they work?

You don't go, "I've only played with TiP as town, but my meta read says he's town so we can't lynch him, gais!"

I don't trust your alignment or your judgment, and you should KNOW that.

If you think his play is consistent with TiP town and NOT with TiP scum, then show your work. Even then, those sorts of arguments are very unlikely to sway people.

Amrun · Post Post #284 (isolation #57) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:39 am

In post 282, Kid A wrote:(notscience has hydrad with theirishpope i think you can probably trust his read somewhat)

Kid A:

-notscience is welcome to share observations in a specific sort of way.
-notscience has never seen TiP's scumgame.
-using his meta read for his own read is one thing; trying to shove it on others without showing work is another.

Amrun · Post Post #286 (isolation #58) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:50 am

don't do a reads list, but do top three scum reads, go.

Amrun · Post Post #290 (isolation #59) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:05 am

He literally already answered before you ever asked the question.

p-edit: I DON'T CARE. STOP TALKING ABOUT IT. FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES YOU HAVE NOT PLAYED WITH HIM AS SCUM.

Amrun · Post Post #299 (isolation #60) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:16 am

In post 291, notscience wrote:HEY LOOK I CAN TALK IN ALL CAPS TOO RIGHTEOUS TOWNIE FURY GO

You are basically breaking site rules -- at least in spirit. And it's really distressing, and I'd like you to please stop. In fact, if you continue in this direction, I will report it even though I like you.

Amrun · Post Post #304 (isolation #61) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:41 am

In post 303, TheIrishPope wrote:
In post 302, Mr. Flay wrote:Hey

Hey

Kid A

Answer my damn question?

Amrun · Post Post #331 (isolation #62) » Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:00 am

Notscience, Ingrid is the most conventional scumread possible in this game. The meta is not convincing.

Gorckat, what is your read on notscience?

Amrun · Post Post #333 (isolation #63) » Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:24 am

No, but that doesn't matter anyway. She's the easiest to attack for the most conventional reasons.

Amrun · Post Post #335 (isolation #64) » Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:32 am

Extremely easy to attack, the easiest, in fact.

He's also not STUPID, and he can't go to Darox after buddying him so hard.

Amrun · Post Post #356 (isolation #65) » Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:43 am

Ingrid, buck up and be less useless.

Gorckat, if the only reason you want to PL tip is that he's hard to read, that's bad and you should feel bad.

Amrun · Post Post #358 (isolation #66) » Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:57 am

Voting him for his claim shenanigans is something else entirely.

Amrun · Post Post #368 (isolation #67) » Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:59 am

Kid A probably needs rope, but so do so many other people, dear Christ.

Amrun · Post Post #379 (isolation #68) » Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:28 pm

In post 375, Jake from State Farm wrote:and if there are any ladies in this game, my apologies as that was probably disgusting for you to read.

Not sure why just ladies, but it's all right. I'm a big girl.

Not having any reads besides kid a is less all right.

Amrun · Post Post #389 (isolation #69) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:27 am

Mr. Flay, I disagree with that one.

Gorckat has openly called it a policy lynch.

I don't think straight up policy lynch is the way to go, here -- yeah, he is probably a liability, but he did link to meta where he was effective. I think he is a better lynch than most others IF there is a reason to suspect he might be scum.

I think there's enough validity to calling him scum that I'm good with lynching him, but not if everyone else on the lynch is there purely for policy.

Amrun · Post Post #395 (isolation #70) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:29 am

Jake, why did you look through kid a's ISO just because he voted moza? Did you also read moza's ISO?

Amrun · Post Post #397 (isolation #71) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:33 am

No, you didn't.

Amrun · Post Post #399 (isolation #72) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:36 am

No, see, that paragraph is what prompted my questions. Therefore, it does not answer them.

You wouldn't know that kid A was just now calling mozamis scummy without isoing him, so what was the initial reasoning to do so?

Did you also ISO mozamis? Before, or after, if so?

Amrun · Post Post #406 (isolation #73) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:21 am

In post 403, Jake from State Farm wrote:
In post 79, Amrun wrote:
In post 77, Mr. Flay wrote:Man, ya'll newbies make NO sense. Why are spicer, moz, and notscience defending the guy who claimed scum? Why is Ingrid posting fluff? Why did TIP claim scum at all?

Claiming scum is like, a new trend to be cute and funny and get "reactions." It's stupid and I hate it and I kind of want to lynch tip just to discourage it but then he's probably town so -sigh-
have you ever seen scum do this? because I have. This is a horrible reason to write tip off as town.

That's not at all what I was doing. Did you actually READ what I posted after that? Context says no.

That "what the fuck" and then "ignore that" post were because I mixed my games up, as I clearly stated.

I voted for him then because I was testing to see if he would self hammer at L-1, which is bloody obvious, as it directly followed him saying that.

Shit, flay. Why did you have to draw scum? That's depressing. I was trying to sit on that read so I could maybe live tonight, and I don't want to lynch you today anyway, but god, you've just been so scummy lately that I can't CONTAIN it.

P-edit: jake, you're not really this bad, are you?

I was clearly checking to see if you pinged the Amished tell. It is in that area, but probably you didn't.

Amrun · Post Post #407 (isolation #74) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:23 am

Flay, detail the progression of your reads on both me and tip.

Amrun · Post Post #409 (isolation #75) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:27 am

I never actually called flay obvtown, though I purposefully hinted I had a town read on him. I wanted to see if it would affect his behavior (it did).

I've had a scumread on mr. Flay for most of the day.

Amrun · Post Post #412 (isolation #76) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:09 am

In post 410, notscience wrote:What did you learn by doing that

While I was popular and town reading and agreeing with him, he thought I was obvtown.

As soon as those things went away, he changed his stance on OLD MaTERIAL.

It's not as if I suddenly began shit posting and he said, "man, Amrun's scummy."

He's now calling me scummy for the same posts that he "was thinking before I posted" back when I was "so town it hurts."

Amrun · Post Post #422 (isolation #77) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:28 pm

In post 413, Darox wrote:This is a more interesting development.

In post 405, Jake from State Farm wrote:There is 2 posts from him that worry me so I'm not putting Darox in the town pile yet.
Which ones?
In post 406, Amrun wrote:That "what the fuck" and then "ignore that" post were because I mixed my games up, as I clearly stated.
What were the games, out of curiosity?

In other news, I'm a dayvig.

Actually, it's over now so I can say -- I was in the meme mini of saulres', and tip (and jake) were also in it.

TiP had a kitty picture post restriction and I saw him vote here in words and thought he was faking his restriction the whole time. But then I quickly realized in just a dumbass.

Ingrid -- explain how I "flip flop" on Mr. Flay. I never stated any read of him whatsoever until just now, which was scum. I just sat on my scumread for awhile to observe him more.

Amrun · Post Post #423 (isolation #78) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:32 pm

Also, does anyone have town meta of jake? He strikes me as an intelligent sort of person, but in the aforementioned game, he was scum and was also pretty "confused." He's missing so much here (like WOOOSH), but maybe that's always the case?

Amrun · Post Post #425 (isolation #79) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:38 pm

Why did you classify that vote as sheeping?

Also, I will do a proper post on flay at some point (tomorrow night or Monday, probably). Can't be arsed to do it from my phone.

Amrun · Post Post #429 (isolation #80) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:54 pm

In post 426, notscience wrote:Because he's done similar things throughout the game. It feels like he's always following someone else's votes.

No one had voted Mr. Flay, and he gave reasoning different than mine. Who has he sheeped in the past?

Amrun · Post Post #431 (isolation #81) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:21 pm

I will, when I can get to a computer.

All in all, you're not the most likely person to be scum today, but I definitely have you in my scummy pile. That makes me sad because I wanted to steamroll this game with you but, alas.

This might be the only game I've ever played where I don't have a really strong town read by now, and that's really ironic. Darox is definitely the closest thing, though.

Amrun · Post Post #433 (isolation #82) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:48 pm

Got anything else to say, gorckat?

Amrun · Post Post #436 (isolation #83) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:00 pm

Okay okay don't hurt yourself.

Amrun · Post Post #445 (isolation #84) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:16 am

Jake, since everything is clear in context, until you read in context there's no point in even responding to you.

You haven't even finished my ISO yet, obviously. Like, what the hell?

If you don't see that I mixed up games for the entirety of two non-alignment indicative posts, then LOL. There's no scum motivation for that, ever.

As for calling you bad, I meant in this particular game, so far you have been bad. I am not commenting on you overall. By "bad" I mean that very little you say makes sense.

This might be because you haven't read yet as opposed to you not being able to read. Previously I was under the impression that you finished reading. So instead of wasting everyone's time, why bother making accusations when you're just talking out of your ass? Read the game first. It's not long.

Amrun · Post Post #447 (isolation #85) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:16 am

No.

None of them make sense.

If you don't understand why I had TiP as an early town read, but you didn't read beyond that point, maybe reading where I would explain it would help. It's not rocket science. I'm not going to spoonfeed you because you're too lazy to read.

Amrun · Post Post #449 (isolation #86) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:36 am

Uh

No you haven't

And if you really think you caught me in a lie

Then you ACTUALLY can't read, which is unfortunate.

Read the game, in context, and then ask your questions that aren't clueless. Then I will be happy to talk to you about it.

Like, for example, asking when Flay and I have agreed just shows you haven't even iso'ed flay yet. Jesus Christ.

For the record, though, I never voted for tip when he was a town read (very briefly), and I also explicitly explained and re-quoted why he was a scumread.

Amrun · Post Post #451 (isolation #87) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:21 am

Because the conversation I had with tip made him scummy, which I, y'know, stated explicitly. I don't understand how you can fail that hard at reading.

Times I have lied this game: 0

Amrun · Post Post #454 (isolation #88) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:29 am

In post 211, Mr. Flay wrote:Because you're basically posting everything I want to, about half an hour earlier.

Right, yeah, we never agreed on anything! Makes perfect sense.

Amrun · Post Post #455 (isolation #89) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:30 am

Oh, I never said "lie 1" by the way. I just said I hinted he was town, not that I did it before he called me town. Of course it was after; I was playing into hai buddying. Super dense.

"Lie 2" is more of you just blatantly not reading.

Amrun · Post Post #457 (isolation #90) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:33 am

Like, you're SO ridiculously wrong that I don't think you'd even try to push that as scum if you knew you were that wrong, so more likely it isn't alignment indicative at all.

P-edit:

Please read, Jesus shit.

Flay and I were pushing the same scumreads at the same time, and if he agreed with me, then we believed the same things, which necessarily means that I agreed with him. It's not that hard.

Amrun · Post Post #459 (isolation #91) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:37 am

Let's make this a little more clear.

In post 92, Amrun wrote:
In post 87, TheIrishPope wrote:
In post 82, Amrun wrote:It muddies the waters and broadens the level of acceptable behavior for scum.
Here you say that scum can fly under the radar. Or am I mistaken?
I have NO idea what you're trying to say.

What you did is both bad for the meta game and this particular game. I have you as a slight town lean despite of it, not because of it. It is closer to null now because you didn't actually do anything interesting with it.

In post 106, Amrun wrote:I liked how he aggressively pursued what people thought of him, at first, but ten he did NOTHING with it.

And then I re-read where he questioned Darox's list and felt increasingly weird about it; if he were town really looking for reactions, wouldn't he note that Darox's list was relative to who was or wasn't on his own wagon?

P-edit:

Omg no

Lynch that

He might be a jester at this point but that still needs to be lynched so whatever

At first, I liked how TiP was unafraid of votes and was pursuing people about them, as if to make sure right commented on his controversial scum claim.

Then, I got drawn into a conversation with tip in which he was aggressively scummy, SO scummy, in fact that I thought he might be a jester doing it ON PURPOSE. This conversation showed that he was NOT, in fact, being especially cognitive about the reactions to him, which reversed my previously slight town read on him and led me to vote him.

Amrun · Post Post #460 (isolation #92) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:38 am

In post 458, Jake from State Farm wrote:
In post 455, Amrun wrote:Oh, I never said "lie 1" by the way. I just said I hinted he was town, not that I did it before he called me town. Of course it was after; I was playing into hai buddying. Super dense.

"Lie 2" is more of you just blatantly not reading.
Nothing in your iso suggests you "hinted" at flay was town before he called you town. I challenge you to prove me wrong.

Yes, I know. Because I didn't. I never claimed I did. In fact, I said the opposite of that. Jesus fuck.

Also preview edits seem not to be working on my phone right now idk why

Amrun · Post Post #462 (isolation #93) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:47 am

1. I just said you don't think you're wrong, which is why you being so hilariously wrong isn't scummy, just wrong.
2. We agreed with each other's pushes, whether you see it or not. Also, how you can reach the conclusion that I was buddying Flay over him buddying me is pretty fucking ludicrous. It doesn't even remotely make sense.

Amrun · Post Post #464 (isolation #94) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:49 am

Oh. My. Fucking. God.

Yes, I hinted that I had a town read on Flay. I did not do it BEFORE he said he had a town read on me.

I've said this literally three times now.

Think about what you are fucking posting.

Amrun · Post Post #469 (isolation #95) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:04 am

Not even remotely what I meant. Explaining things to you is like explaining things to that brick wall over there, but I will attempt: I returned his buddying in order to see if the behavior would continue, and to see if he would increase it after I reciprocated. Both were true. I never stated a town read on him, purposefully, because I didn't want to lie.

I never lied, and I think anyone with eyes will see that, so I'm not too worried about it.

Amrun · Post Post #473 (isolation #96) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:02 am

Hey, flay, I might have misunderstood your view on TiP. See, earlier I thought you thought he was scum right around the time I did. Then, later, you seemed to be going along with gorckat's fence sitting. You openly agreed with him as he was saying it doesn't matter what alignment tip is, we should lynch him. This seemed like an odd reversal for someone who had said TiP was scum. But then when you detailed your read of him, you didn't mention this at all. Can you clarify?

P-edit: sorry if I upset you (honestly). I called you intelligent, though; I don't think you're dumb at all. I just think you're so confirmation biased from conclusions you got to while you weren't well informed that you're spewing ridiculous things. Really, it's more of a town tell than anything.

Amrun · Post Post #475 (isolation #97) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:45 am

Mr. flay, for clarification, I didn't want a break down of mine and tip's posts, though thanks for doing that. I wanted a progression of your reads on both of us. For example, what made you think I was town, and when, and then what changed your mind, and why, and the same for tip. I don't understand your progressions on either of these players, while for example your read on spicer is pretty straight forward.

Amrun · Post Post #477 (isolation #98) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:27 am

TiP, if you try really hard, you could be even more useless and inspire people to policy lynch you!

Amrun · Post Post #479 (isolation #99) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:48 am

Stop saying that. It's a broken record and has never been productive.

Amrun · Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:52 am

There are many people who believe that a policy lynch is not a lowering at all.

Amrun · Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:56 am

There are many people that believe in policy lynching when it is a net benefit to the town and has a chance of hitting scum anyway. All instances of policy lynching discussed in this thread have been like this. I don't really think TiP qualifies, really, but it's certainly arguable.

Amrun · Post Post #500 (isolation #102) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:51 pm

In post 495, TheIrishPope wrote:It's certainly a possibility, don't you think? With everyone having a power role, I wouldn't be surprised.

I was going to raegbeast about this but I checked the OP first. I see what you're getting it, but it doesn't mean you're right.

Answer me this: if you thought everyone had a role, why did you expect a claim/use of power to save you?

Amrun · Post Post #503 (isolation #103) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:57 pm

Probably okay with kid lynch but.

I need to post about flay first, k?

Kid isn't like my go-to lynch, but he's been pretty scummy all game. Disliked his answering for spicer early on and his treatment of moz/jake slot has some legitimate weirdness. On the other hand, liked his post about Flay.

I think this game will crack right open with a flip or two. There have been some great interactions today.

Amrun · Post Post #505 (isolation #104) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:59 pm

I think Ingrid is probably town.

Amrun · Post Post #508 (isolation #105) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:02 pm

Nope. Just gutsies, plus her insistence on mass claim after negative pressure about it. Bad town, sure, but more likely to be town than scum. I'm not taking it to the bank, but not interested in lynching her today.

Amrun · Post Post #510 (isolation #106) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:11 pm

Nope. Not even a tiny little bit. Do you even read? Seriously? :/

Oh, and Mr. Flay -- I can't post what I want about you until after you detail your reads on me and tip in the manner I requested. (Well, I can, but I dont want it to affect what you say.) I know you tried, so I'm sorry I wasn't more clear originally.

Amrun · Post Post #512 (isolation #107) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:18 pm

Nope.

Amrun · Post Post #514 (isolation #108) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:27 pm

In post 236, Amrun wrote:
In post 235, TheIrishPope wrote:
In post 106, Amrun wrote: P-edit:

Omg no

Lynch that

He might be a jester at this point but that still needs to be lynched so whatever
And now you lie, Amrun? Tsk tsk.
You have to be pretty high to interpret that as an advocation of policy lynching, in my opinion.

In post 238, Amrun wrote:
In post 237, TheIrishPope wrote:
In post 122, Amrun wrote: Even if you end up being town,
which I honestly doubt is the case anyway
, you can't be trusted in LyLo, so you have to go.
Need I quote more?
Nope.jpg

If I think you are so scummy that you might be being intentionally scummy because you are a jester, and if I think that you are probably not town, what does that tell you, if you use your brain instead of your AtE device?

In post 356, Amrun wrote:Ingrid, buck up and be less useless.

Gorckat, if the only reason you want to PL tip is that he's hard to read, that's bad and you should feel bad.

This and SEVERAL other posts, one of them on like the last page, explicitly detail that I do not think you should be policy lynched, and instead lynched for being scummy.

There is no way my posts can be interpreted as pro-policy lynching you.

Amrun · Post Post #515 (isolation #109) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:28 pm

In post 389, Amrun wrote:Mr. Flay, I disagree with that one.

Gorckat has openly called it a policy lynch.

I don't think straight up policy lynch is the way to go, here -- yeah, he is probably a liability, but he did link to meta where he was effective. I think he is a better lynch than most others IF there is a reason to suspect he might be scum.

I think there's enough validity to calling him scum that I'm good with lynching him, but not if everyone else on the lynch is there purely for policy.

Try reading a tiny, tiny bit, tip. /sigh

Amrun · Post Post #517 (isolation #110) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:31 pm

I. Was. Not.

Amrun · Post Post #519 (isolation #111) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:35 pm

I already described it, in detail, and then requoted some of it above. I only ever seriously advocated your lynch when I thought you were scum. We have already had this conversation. How did you draw such a wildly wrong conclusion from it?

Amrun · Post Post #521 (isolation #112) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:42 pm

Depends on what he posts. Maybe.

Amrun · Post Post #524 (isolation #113) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:39 pm

Do you think TiP is scum? Why, if so?

Amrun · Post Post #526 (isolation #114) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:45 pm

SHOOT 'EM SHOOT 'EM

this is exciting

Amrun · Post Post #528 (isolation #115) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:48 pm

Amrun · Post Post #531 (isolation #116) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:02 pm

In post 529, Mr. Flay wrote:
In post 524, Amrun wrote:Do you think TiP is scum? Why, if so?
Solid 20% chance (1/5, not accounting for partners). Why? Claim, lack of investment, lack of scumhunting, distraction, overconfidence, and appeal to shitty meta.

Do you think 20% chance is higher than the average chance to flip scum?

Amrun · Post Post #533 (isolation #117) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:12 pm

Can you rank your five candidates for me?

Amrun · Post Post #537 (isolation #118) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:20 pm

Do you think there are 3 scum?

Why do you think TiP should be policy lynched, if you believe him to be scum? Why call him unreadable policy lynch and scum at the same time?

(I will make a post responding to 465, I promise -- when I am satisfied.)

Amrun · Post Post #543 (isolation #119) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:39 pm

Got any content to add, notscience?

Amrun · Post Post #580 (isolation #120) » Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:02 am

Jake, explain to me how kid A hasn't been "scumhunting from the start?"

He started out the gate quite strong, in fact, and only fell off in the middle. That's an unfair accusation.

Amrun · Post Post #583 (isolation #121) » Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:59 am

I was thinking of his comment about spicer, specifically.

Amrun · Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:32 pm

I haven't once given a sarcastic answer as to why you're scum, spicer. Are they half assed or arrogant? Those two things don't really go together.

Giving a reads list and then not voting for the scum on it is blatant scummy. No one really needs more than that, tbh.

Amrun · Post Post #592 (isolation #123) » Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:37 pm

Think the answer is pretty clear, myself.

Amrun · Post Post #597 (isolation #124) » Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:56 pm

Flay, when I get home to a computer tonight.

Amrun · Post Post #620 (isolation #125) » Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:36 pm

OMG

SUNDY

THIS IS EXCITING

So I went to my grandma's so I could have internet tonight. Content incoming.

Amrun · Post Post #621 (isolation #126) » Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:20 pm

Okay, I'm really fucking tired, so if this doesn't make sense, ask me questions.

In post 77, Mr. Flay wrote:Man, ya'll newbies make NO sense. Why are spicer, moz, and notscience defending the guy who claimed scum? Why is Ingrid posting fluff? Why did TIP claim scum at all?

UP UNTIL THIS POST, I really liked Flay as town. This sort of "oh man, y'all newbies" post without making a comment on ANYONE'S alignment really struck me as off. But still, I mean, y'all newbies (we're all newbies to Flay) were acting pretty dumb, so I answered this post to try and get him to engage about it etc.

In post 103, Mr. Flay wrote:
In post 96, Darox wrote:THIS IS WHY I HATE SCUM CLAIMS. HEY LET'S WASTE SOME MORE TIME TALKING IN CIRCLES AND ACHIEVE NOTHING.

HEY IRISH, INSTEAD OF DICKING AROUND AND RESPONDING TO EVERYBODY WHO TALKS ABOUT YOUR STUPID SCUMCLAIM WHILE SAYING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING OF VALUE, WHY DON'T YOU BE USEFUL AND PLACE YOUR VOTE. IF YOU WANT TO BE REALLY USEFUL, PLACE IT ON SPICER.
This post works even better if you just glance at Hobbes out of the corner of your eye, and think he's ranting and flailing.

In other news, I'm perfectly happy with my vote. I think TIP wanted to get reactions, but I also think he wanted to deflect criticism with "lol reactions". It's a much better scum play than a Town play, so let's lynch him.

Then he posted this, and I liked this post pretty well, so I set aside my paranoia for the moment.

In post 187, Mr. Flay wrote:
In post 185, spicer1209 wrote:@Darox honestly his comment went completely over my head and I had no idea that was what he was referring to until you just now pointed it out. Even when I first read it I was like what the fuck is be talking about.
Face. Palm. Yes, my comment was because my avatar comes from ... English literature! That's it. Nothing to do with rolefishing.

Right now I like Irish and Ingrid for scum (yes, even together). Neither is doing a damn thing for the game. Kid A I could go either way with. Most of the rest are null or town right now.

I really disliked these scumreads, though, and the reasoning for it. They're not doing a damn thing, sure, but why is that indicative of them being scum? (It isn't.) These three are the EASIEST to attack out of the whole player list. Who's number 4? Spicer. Guess who Flay's been poking at besides this? Spicer.

In post 208, Mr. Flay wrote:Amrun, if you end up being scum after all of this I'm going to be VERY upset.

In post 211, Mr. Flay wrote:Because you're basically posting everything I want to, about half an hour earlier.

And then there's this. I thought this was a little weird at the time, but I thought, well, maybe there's more going on behind the scenes in Flay's head. I like it when people townread me, but it struck me that I was the most townie out of the whole game at the moment (I mean, maybe in hindsight I wasn't as I know I'm town so there's probably bias -- but I STILL think I was, and several people had recently called me town at this point.) So, then I ate my paranoia flakes about THIS post, too, thinking it was an easy way to leech off my towncred. So I played into his buddying a bit to see what would happen.

In post 220, Mr. Flay wrote:... dafuq is this game?

In post 224, Mr. Flay wrote:Fun fact: ignore feature doesn't work in Mafia games.

Kid A, why are you voting Darox? Your iso is uninformative.

In post 314, Mr. Flay wrote:There's only 10 of us... I keep thinking I should be lurker hunting, but except for Ingrid and moz we're good.

Still waiting for Kid A, however.

In post 354, Mr. Flay wrote:This fucking game...

My vote is happy with any of the leading wagons right now. still waiting for kid a to answer the damn question.

And then, as the rest of his ISO is almost exclusively some sort of complaint and very little content. It felt very much like active lurking, and every time it continued, it made me feel worse about him. TiP asked him if he preferred town or scum and he had no problem writing a paragraph about it, but the content gets one sentence?

In post 388, Mr. Flay wrote:Just finished rereading spicer and Kid A. Definitely like my vote where it is. He's totally misrepresenting gorckat, given that it's not a policy lynch on TIP, it's a better-than-average D1 lynch. If the guy is indistinguishable as scum or town, we'll never know who he is. So without good scumhunting (which hasn't really shown up so far), he's a fucking liability.

Also, this bodes well:
In post 369, gorckat wrote:Vla over weekend. Have phone but laptop
dyong
.

Will prob be unable to resist typos from
phome
posting.

Will
syrive
for succinct
amd
clear thoughts.

And then this thing with gorckat makes no sense. I commented on it at the time. Gorckat is openly calling it a policy lynch, and Mr. Flay is agreeing but trying to take the "policy lynch" words out of it because they are not doing well with this playerlist. Like, sheeps the reasoning, but then says it's NOT a policy lynch, when the person using the reasoning calls it a policy lynch.

It also struck me as pretty odd because he has several quotes, and even one pretty good reason, for calling TiP scum in his iso. But then he says we should lynch him for being unreadable. That really doesn't add up. You can't have a scumread on someone and then also want to lynch them for unreadability. That's certainly not a thought process I'D have as town, anyway.

In post 404, Mr. Flay wrote:Yeah if TIP actually does flip Mafia it's going to look bad for Amrun.

And then this is the point where all the trains crashed in my brain and I had to say something. Up to this point, you see, it's a lot of tinfoil hat paranoia. This, however, is crazy scummy.

Jake was posting a bunch of stuff from early game, which Mr. Flay BLATANTLY agreed with -- EXPLICITLY agreed with, and called me TOWN for posting. Then, Jake posted it and called it scummy, and all of a sudden, it looks bad for me if TiP flips scum.

If Jake had said this about NEW posts I made, it wouldn't have been as big of a deal, but he didn't. He's a replacement, so commenting on old posts is fine for him, but NOTHING changed about my stance on TiP in between Mr. Flay saying "you post everything I want to post before I post it" and "it looks bad for Amrun if TiP flips scum." By his OWN reasoning, this would also mean it looks bad for HIM, but I'm less concerned about that and more concerned about a flipping stance with no new information. The only thing that changed was popular opinion. When Mr. Flay said he agreed with me and I was town, I was pretty universally townread and at the very least had no open detractors; even TiP said our spat was town on town. Jake comes in and turns the flow of conversation, and all of a sudden the same posts that made me town before make me look scummy if TiP flips scum. It makes NO sense.

And I didn't like his responses either. I asked for his progressions of reads on me and TiP, and he gave me a pbp analysis of why we are scum, basically. For me especially, this makes no sense. He thought I was "so town it hurts" at that point, but his pbp doesn't reflect that at all. It doesn't read genuinely. And even when I clarified what I meant, he didn't have a good explanation.

Amrun · Post Post #622 (isolation #127) » Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:22 pm

In post 615, Sundy wrote:
In post 614, Mr. Flay wrote:Out of curiosity, have you read the entire game yet, Sundy?

Amished tell is some sort of bullshit tell about criticizing the person you replaced.
I have indeed. I skimmed some of the trolling.

That's not really what the Amished tell is.

Originally, the Amished tell was simply "if you read your predecessor, you are scum." He later revised it for, "If you apologize for/make excuses for your predecessor's scumminess, you are scum."

In spirit, though, if you focus on accusations against you in favor of scumhunting, it is scummy.

I thought Jake might have come in and violated the spirit of this sin, but in the end, decided he probably didn't. I very much believe in this scumtell, though.

Amrun · Post Post #627 (isolation #128) » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:04 am

Jake:

That is the 100% correct definition of the tell. I've talked about it with Amished, so, you are wrong. Do not mention ongoing games ever... What is wrong with you? I have occasionally seen the tell flip town, but more often scum. Non-clean applications muddy the waters. I believe in the tell, so I really don't care about what anyone else thinks.

Mr. Flay:

Of course the poorest reason is the easy targets thing. Granted. It occurred to me, so I shared it, though.

Amrun · Post Post #630 (isolation #129) » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:19 am

Did you even read?

I never said that was the current definition. I said it used to be the definition. It used to be the definition for a REASON, which is the spirit of the tell, not the letter of it. I don't think that reading your predecessor makes you scum, but contextually when and how you do it and when and how you do/don't do other things can be scummy. It isn't even relevant right now, so this conversation is supremely unproductive.

Amrun · Post Post #633 (isolation #130) » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:27 am

I do use the correct one. I was explaining the evolution of the tell because someone asked what it meant. Seriously, this is dumb. Stop.

Amrun · Post Post #641 (isolation #131) » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:11 am

Darox, state your intent to shoot when you come back, please, and your target.

Amrun · Post Post #655 (isolation #132) » Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:24 pm

At least it's a better target. Why did you shift, darox?

Amrun · Post Post #658 (isolation #133) » Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:50 pm

VOTE: spicer

Standing by my earlier statement that one of notscience/spicer is scum.

Amrun · Post Post #663 (isolation #134) » Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:38 pm

In a 10p game, I see a scum daykill as an unlikely thing.

Governor is sort of negative utility town role imo.

Amrun · Post Post #665 (isolation #135) » Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:50 pm

It's relevant for set-up balance.

But no, I literally mean that in almost any situation, a governor is negative utility. If someone has been run up to the point of lynch, saving them even when they're town doesn't do anything but waste a lynch.

Amrun · Post Post #667 (isolation #136) » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:07 pm

Darox is really town. HI, town Darox. You are town.

Amrun · Thu Aug 01, 2013 12:13 pm

VOTE: kid a

Claim.

Amrun · Post Post #688 (isolation #138) » Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:57 am

"180."

I swear to God, it's like no one reads fucking anything anymore. It's becoming tiring.

But claim stall = death. I wanted to see how he would react to the pressure and the answer is "extremely poorly." He isn't even attempting to answer the questions posed to him, some of them very good, or to tell us who is scum.

Amrun · Post Post #698 (isolation #139) » Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:58 am

Yeah rolecop is usually a scum role.

=====[]

I promise if you're town I won't forget you lived and will give your reads credence.

P-edit:

Jesus, yeah. It's not even a role I care about keeping for town anyway. Rolecop has almost no utility for town.

Amrun · Post Post #701 (isolation #140) » Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:08 am

Tbh if kid a flips town you're highly likely to be scum. I liked that jump off, though he should put his vote back because that claim should die.

Amrun · Post Post #702 (isolation #141) » Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:10 am

I disagree that they can't be scum together, though. I think it's more likely one of them is town but not for sure.

Amrun · Post Post #705 (isolation #142) » Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:22 am

I never defended you, for the record, though if you want to see it that way, be my guest. I disagreed with jake's assessment, which is relevant to jake's alignment as well.

You were never my first choice for a lynch, but you did some legitimately weird things, especially surrounding the mozamis slot, and dodging questions is bad. I've said all that before.

Also not sure you know what buddying is.

Amrun · Post Post #709 (isolation #143) » Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:57 am

That post was referring to notscience, not you, sorry.

Amrun · Post Post #713 (isolation #144) » Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:12 am

Flash wagons at deadline are usually bad for town.

Amrun · Post Post #725 (isolation #145) » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:06 am

That's dumb even if you think I'm scum, to abandon a viable lynch you support for no reason at all.

Amrun · Post Post #730 (isolation #146) » Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:11 am

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Amrun · Post Post #732 (isolation #147) » Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:54 am

Amrun · Post Post #738 (isolation #148) » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:48 pm

I'd lynch that slot cuz it was spicer.

But kid a is just deflecting and shit, and claimed a scummy role. He should die today.

Amrun · Post Post #740 (isolation #149) » Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:33 pm

Darox, don't do this to me!!!

Amrun · Post Post #748 (isolation #150) » Sun Aug 04, 2013 5:21 am

Just because I found the post scummy doesn't mean it isn't demonstrable scumhunting. Scum do that, too.

Don't understand the confliction?

Tbh honest though I over-remembered his early scumhunting, and thought your posts to that effect were pretty good. I still like his post on Flay, though.

Amrun · Post Post #753 (isolation #151) » Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:25 am

Sundy, what do you think about kid a's claim?

Amrun · Post Post #755 (isolation #152) » Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:28 am

Why did you skip my question?

Amrun · Post Post #762 (isolation #153) » Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:20 am

In post 757, Sundy wrote:
In post 755, Amrun wrote:Why did you skip my question?
I didn't.

What do you see as the difference between a cop that divines roles and a cop that divines alignments?
@ Flay, also want to know your view on this since you made the same argument amrun did

The literal definition of rolecop is that it doesn't divine alignments. The type of rolecop that divines alignments is a variant that only is played in multiscum games and which kid A has already said it's not that variant.

Do you think this role is more likely to be in the hands of scum or town?

Amrun · Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:21 am

In post 763, Sundy wrote:
In post 762, Amrun wrote:
In post 757, Sundy wrote:
In post 755, Amrun wrote:Why did you skip my question?
I didn't.

What do you see as the difference between a cop that divines roles and a cop that divines alignments?
@ Flay, also want to know your view on this since you made the same argument amrun did
The literal definition of rolecop is that it doesn't divine alignments. The type of rolecop that divines alignments is a variant that only is played in multiscum games and which kid A has already said it's not that variant.

Do you think this role is more likely to be in the hands of scum or town?
to be honest i do not know. i have not played that many games on this site with complex PR dynamics and in general i am more comfortable using traditional scum-hunting tactics than PR speculation

What utility does that role have as town? If you got that role as town, what would you think?

Amrun · Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:14 pm

Yeah -- I am with jake on this one. We already know everyone has a role in this game.

Amrun · Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:24 pm

Darox just do the h. If you do it, I promise to vote notscience tomorrow.

Amrun · Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:30 pm

But his role is fucking scum!! If he had claimed a non-scum role, I would probs be voting notscience right now.

Amrun · Post Post #780 (isolation #158) » Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:35 pm

In post 777, Jake from State Farm wrote:has anyone even provided a good NS case? if so can someone link me to it so I can at least understand how this counter started.

Most of it revolves around notscience's very weird reaction to the claim, but prior to that, kid a made a case. Maybe someone else, forget.

Amrun · Post Post #784 (isolation #159) » Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:31 pm

Gorckat's points on notscience are legit. Read his posts.

Amrun · Post Post #795 (isolation #160) » Mon Aug 05, 2013 5:27 am

I told you the main thing was notscience's reaction to the claim...

Amrun · Post Post #797 (isolation #161) » Mon Aug 05, 2013 5:38 am

Everything, apparently.

Amrun · Post Post #799 (isolation #162) » Mon Aug 05, 2013 5:40 am

Amrun · Post Post #801 (isolation #163) » Mon Aug 05, 2013 5:43 am

Gorckat made the argument originally.

Amrun · Post Post #803 (isolation #164) » Mon Aug 05, 2013 5:58 am

In post 696, gorckat wrote:Mod...am on cell phone at brony con. Please accept:

Bold
Unvote
Vote notscience
Unbold

As a vote on notsci.

That wad the hedgiyist i dont want to hammer a towmie post ive seen in awhile.

Accepted

He's on his phone so it's difficult.

Amrun · Post Post #820 (isolation #165) » Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:39 pm

If we no lynch, I hate you all.

Amrun · Post Post #822 (isolation #166) » Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:59 pm

That was a hammer, right? Good man, notscience!

Amrun · Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:33 am

Can't believe we won.

Amrun · Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:57 am

HEY FLAY

Sorry I ate the paranoia flakes on you Day 1.

Later on I thought you were town despite the rest of the town not thinking so.

But h8 everyone who thought Darox was scum. He was so so so so so town!