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Post Post #5 (isolation #0) » Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:48 pm

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Yay first.

VOTE: Medea the Alien.

My preference for this hydra is to systematically lynch indiscriminately all players we feel are competent and hope for the best. I will let you know what Tier thinks of this plan soon.

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Post Post #15 (isolation #1) » Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:48 pm

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In post 5, Nazarene wrote:Yay first.

VOTE: Medea the Alien.

My preference for this hydra is to systematically lynch indiscriminately all players we feel are competent and hope for the best. I will let you know what Tier thinks of this plan soon.

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It's lovely when hydra partners can read your mind.

Consider Aegor the head that composedly follows the plan, and Tier the one that gets scum lynched. At times.

ALSO LET'S GET FAKECLAIMING MEDEA OUT OF HERE
MORE VOTES
MOAR

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Post Post #18 (isolation #2) » Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:06 pm

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Time-slicing steamroller?
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Post Post #20 (isolation #3) » Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:14 pm

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:( what was it then

Also the fact that your hydra name is cooler than ours will lead me to rage and consistently try to get you lynched. Just so you know,
stupid
garruk.
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Post Post #29 (isolation #4) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 4:05 am

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Guys slow the fuck down we are hated this is L-1
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Post Post #30 (isolation #5) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 4:07 am

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Nat, why did you want to softclaim and flavorclaim?
Is it serious and can you explain?

Let's not flavorclaim, mkay?

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Post Post #33 (isolation #6) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 4:15 am

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Is there scum motivation in lying about being hated?

Also I'm just gonna put this here in bold because I know there are a few morons in here who like to not read but vote and accidentally hammer. *cough*bert/nat*cough*

Our role has a hated modifier, we take one less vote to lynch


P-edit: I was still discussing with Aegor when to claim it and we hadn't finished yet, but then L-1 came.
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Post Post #39 (isolation #7) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:17 am

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claim: awesome


What is a rxn test?

I don't have such weird ability enabling either.

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Post Post #42 (isolation #8) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:57 am

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In post 41, Kagami wrote:Are they any conditions under which you become un-hated?
Yes. They are innocuous and we will let you know when they arrive, but none of them are relevant today.
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Post Post #46 (isolation #9) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 3:41 pm

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Why has Medea not voted? That is a scum claim right there.

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Post Post #48 (isolation #10) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:25 pm

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In post 47, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 33, Nazarene wrote:Our role has a hated modifier, we take one less vote to lynch
late as
fuck


tell me why this was
Uh...
In post 33, Nazarene wrote:P-edit: I was still discussing with Aegor when to claim it and we hadn't finished yet, but then L-1 came.
I had brought it up in our QT and actually wrote a draft of a post that we could use right after my first post in this thread. We got to L-2 at the top of the second page within 12 hours. I think your idea of "late as fuck" needs some reconsideration. And I am not going to claim anything about the role without consulting with my other head unless circumstances demand an immediate claim, as they did when TS claimed.

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Post Post #54 (isolation #11) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:55 pm

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In post 53, orcinus_theoriginal wrote: It's
hated
. You should've claimed it first post.

both heads were online during those 12 hours.

Are there any other aspects to your hated modifier we need to know? does it go away at some point?
OMG.

From our QT:

Code: Select all

[Aeg]I think we should claim Hated. I have a draft post saved.
[TS]We should definitely claim hated.


There was no intent to deceive. I was asleep when TS first posted in the QT/in-thread. One of our earlier posts tells you more about the modifier.
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Post Post #56 (isolation #12) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 9:10 pm

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In post 55, orcinus_theoriginal wrote: would revealing them to us be anti-town?
Insofar as they are not imminently relevant, I would say yes, because I would consider the provision of any role information beyond what is absolutely necessary or directly beneficial (e.g. guilty result) anti-town. If TS feels differently, he is welcome to post the end conditions. But he probably won't since we already agreed on this in our QT.

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Post Post #59 (isolation #13) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:33 pm

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In post 57, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:I would agree with you. But I would in this case like to know the conditions under which you become unhated.

Two reasons
1) we can help you become unhated (I assume we can't directly but I'm having trouble imagining what your modifier might be)
2) making sure that you aren't alive and hated at lylo.
Yeah.
We're not hated at LyLo, don't worry.

Now where the f is every player in this game?

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Post Post #62 (isolation #14) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:51 pm

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None of your business.

Now why are you so hell-bent on this setup spec?
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Post Post #69 (isolation #15) » Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:16 am

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Daww how'd you catch on to me so quickly?
Why am I scum btw? For not sharing info?

Also giffy is being too nice

VOTE: guyinfreezer

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Post Post #70 (isolation #16) » Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:17 am

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And orc you might wanna announce L-1, you dipshit.
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Post Post #72 (isolation #17) » Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:51 am

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Start towning it up, bro.
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Post Post #74 (isolation #18) » Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:56 am

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Maybe he is trying to hate the hated for cookie points.
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Post Post #77 (isolation #19) » Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:14 am

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I actually have no idea what the shit he's trying to do with this and I'd be happy to hear how our not giving away role info makes us scum.

So far it seems like moronic town.

He does need to start making sense soon though

UNVOTE:

Where should we park our vote giffy?
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Post Post #85 (isolation #20) » Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:49 am

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Quick recap of missing pages:
Orc was calling us scum for not sharing role info and not doing anything else
Kagami was useless, pleasing people and not trying to figure out the game. After our push on her there came a counterpush because both our heads were in harmony
Gif was kinda useful, asking questions to people
Garruk was well, nati. Stupid fuck :/
Perpetual nonsense was saying perpetual nonsense
Medea started to get involved but their push on orc wasn't too convincing
Alduskkel was being scummy with their orc vote.
Tip was well, kinda silent, voted for kagami for unexplained reasons.

Did I miss anything?
So yeah kagami do try to town it up

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Post Post #94 (isolation #21) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:26 am

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In post 90, Medea the Alien wrote:So Kagami's ISO seems no less useful than people like TIP yet she merits three votes, at least two of which have no reasoning. Not liking the wagon at all, and TIP-scum wouldn't surprise me.
There is more, but that was lost. The counterpush was pretty awful.
TiP was first on the wagon, don't forget that.
Nazarene, you hate the orc votes yet your recap of orc doesn't exactly present him as a town read. Why the discrepancy?

--PA
I said moronic town, eh? Aegor doesn't fully agree, though.

The orc votes are kinda lazy, alduskkel's is horrible.
In post 93, Alduskkel wrote:Doesn't make sense as a legitimate train of thought.
Why?
Got any other comments?

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Post Post #102 (isolation #22) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:00 pm

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In post 95, Kagami wrote:I'm voting very, very obvious scum. I don't see what more I could do to demonstrate that I'm town.
Not make shitty votes and then couch them with vacuous statements of their correctness?

I have absolutely no completed games with either tier or aegor, and I have done nothing to deserve a scumread of such confidence that both heads of nazarene are in agreement of.
Why would that matter? Both heads agree that your play has been relatively scummy. You are asserting a conviction that does not exist.

There is an ongoing game, however, in which both aegor and I am in. Aegor believes I'm easy to mislynch.
Thanks for mentioning an ongoing game while depriving me of the opportunity to explain my actions without violating site rules.

Want to demonstrate that you are town? Stop pulling shit like that.

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Post Post #103 (isolation #23) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:08 pm

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@PN and TIP
: Post content, please.
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Post Post #111 (isolation #24) » Tue Mar 04, 2014 3:27 am

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@ald:
I don't exactly remember what your vote looked like when you made it, but gif pointed out how it looked badly and it did, really.

I don't remember the cooperation you are talking about, sadly. Why don't you think a townie trying to figure out the game would want to cooperate with a scumread? I do that all the time when I'm town and not tunneling.

What do you think of other players, for instance us and kagami?
In post 110, Kagami wrote: I don't buy nazarene town, and I'm having trouble figuring out why I don't have any traction here. His posts feel very, very obv-scum to me; even his quoted hydra chat in reads like scum trying to decide if they should claim hated rather than town deciding if they should tell everyone about it.
Point out the scumminess, honey. Just telling us about it won't help you.
Even at that, isn't it odd that town-nazarene's heads "agreed" to claim hated, when they actually claimed hated because they were driven to L-1 and were fearful they'd be accidentally lynched?
You suggest that we should have claimed hated only when we were done talking about it, ignoring the fact that we were at L-1?
I think ferry is far too careful to mod-slip like this, as well. Even if we don't believe that a hated player could be scum, it's entirely possible that scum-nazarene has a mod-given "hated" fake-claim, which ferry chose not to spoil by posting L-Xs.
Rly

Now stop mudslinging pls

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Post Post #117 (isolation #25) » Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:44 am

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In post 115, TheIrishPope wrote:piling of votes on kagami begins now
We should play together more often.
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Post Post #118 (isolation #26) » Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:53 am

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In post 116, Kagami wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: TIP
I heard you were useful as town???

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Post Post #120 (isolation #27) » Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:17 am

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Why are you not voting us? Everything in your posts seems to suggest we are scum. Our heads are still in harmony, isn't that scummy?
Just the fact that our hated claim makes sense, is enough for you to deny your gut scumread? What happened to all our posts being scummy?

What do you think of orc's vote on us? Don't you think it's lazy?

Yeah I'm pretty much ok with tip's vote. You've been acting scummily and he has meta on you and he says it's your scum game. I haven't heard concrete arguments but neither have I heard meta-arguments for you-town.
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Post Post #123 (isolation #28) » Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:37 am

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Uh my vote is not because you were being useless, read please.

Where's the slip exactly? I believe TiP is more of a clumsy town than a clumsy scum so eh I have no clue as to why you are voting him.

Nati, what do you think of tip?
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Post Post #124 (isolation #29) » Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:00 am

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I would only be willing to lynch Kag today if we lynch TIP tomorrow if Kag flips town. Discuss.

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Post Post #130 (isolation #30) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:44 am

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UNVOTE:
Not yet. Consider our vote on kagami for the time being.

Medea, why are you not voting tip if you suspect him? And what do you think of the kagami wagon?

Tip, you're being lazy and aegor thinks you're scum. Do you have any business here other than quicklynching kagami?

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Post Post #134 (isolation #31) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:53 am

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In post 133, Aegor wrote:

VOTE: Medea
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Must keep browsers separate...
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Post Post #137 (isolation #32) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:27 am

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
VOTE: Medea
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Post Post #139 (isolation #33) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:41 am

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In post 138, Perpetual Nonsense wrote:
In post 136, Aegor wrote:VOTE: Medea
:(

*sigh* we need to work on your hydra slippage issues, cos you slipped twice in an hour
Last time, I promise.
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Post Post #142 (isolation #34) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:25 am

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Dammit we were just wanting to push for medea.

Seems like we just got mad skills.

If this is fake imma come over to murica and kick nati in the balls.

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Post Post #144 (isolation #35) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:49 pm

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In post 143, Perpetual Nonsense wrote:Natirasha is this daycop thing legit

y/n? or a gambit for funzies

tia
That should be easy to deal with either way:
Garruk, would you be willing to 1-1 for Medea assuming that the slot flips non-miller etc. town?


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Post Post #177 (isolation #36) » Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:27 pm

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The Heads of the Hydra agree that PN is a total scumbag for attempting to rush a quicklynch on Medea and general scummy behavior, including a questionable L-1 vote on Kagami presented with fake humor. This is bad.

This Head of the Hydra personally finds TIP repulsive in every way imaginable and very likely scum. In particular, if the fake nature of the cop claim was so obvious, this Head wonders why TIP did not take advantage of the opportunity to gain information in whatever way he thought best.

Despite the coincidence of these reads with those of GuyInFreezer, this Head of the Hydra is still uncomfortable with the conspicuous absence that Medea has mentioned and that this Head has confirmed by looking at GiF's post history. This Head finds this scummy.

The Heads of the Hydra will confer and place a vote.

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Post Post #181 (isolation #37) » Fri Mar 07, 2014 12:52 am

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In post 142, Nazarene wrote:If this is fake imma come over to murica and kick nati in the balls.
Directions please?

I'm cool with Medea's response to the fake guilty (which was REALLY close to actually getting them lynched, nati, you jackass), but they're definitely not off the hook yet.
Kagami is also still questionable. But now, I'd rather vote bert.

Bert usually shows at least a grain of town motivation.

Die.

VOTE: Perpetual nonsense

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Post Post #185 (isolation #38) » Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:16 am

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In post 155, Medea the Alien wrote:You asked about my take on the Kagami wagon: it was weak. Pressure, sure, but it looked more like wagoning for the sake of running someone up than being interested in listening to her points in response. I'm not confident on her being town, but I am pretty sure there was scum on her wagon at some point, either PN or TIP. Probably not both given the flimsiness of the arguments.
Forgot to respond to this.

Are you saying that even if she is scum, there was scum on the wagon? Why do you feel so confident that there was scum on the wagon?

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Post Post #189 (isolation #39) » Fri Mar 07, 2014 7:51 am

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In post 182, Garruk Relentless wrote:I was 100% trying to lynch Medea, Tiershift.
You should have known better than to ruin your gambit and provide Medea an easy out if she were/is scum, then. Do you still want to lynch Medea? Why, specifically?

In post 183, GuyInFreezer wrote: if you checked the posting history you would've known that I prod dodged that day bc I was busy.
:? A prod dodge would have been appropriate in this game as well.

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Post Post #194 (isolation #40) » Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:22 pm

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In post 193, Aegor wrote:
In post 191, Garruk Relentless wrote:I want medea lynched for role-related reasons.
What does that even mean?
I lied.

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Post Post #230 (isolation #41) » Sun Mar 09, 2014 6:43 pm

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We are still here. May do a quick re-read.

This Head of the Hydra's top picks for lynches today are TIP and PN. I am actually leaning TIP at the moment because I feel like if we do not rid ourselves of his cancerous presence he will infect the game beyond salvation.

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Post Post #260 (isolation #42) » Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:10 am

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Re: Hated claim. The Heads of the Hydra have crumbed the mechanic of the hated claim so it can be retroactively corroborated. This Head of the Hydra sees no need to divulge a mechanic that he knows will not last indefinitely. It will not affect play.
In post 210, Alduskkel wrote:I'm not sure I've ever played with Bert outside of marathon/skype Mafia, but doesn't he usually town it up when he's town?
Aldu should be sorted. This Head of the Hydra does not like Ald's posts at all. Scumlean.

In post 225, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:ald i have at null but i want to put him somewhere

points of interest: no vote, scumread on me that's based on a misrep and no vote to follow

vla though so that's kinda dull
We will expect a follow-up on this.

In post 234, Perpetual Nonsense wrote:lol TIP hasn't done anything in this game...........no idea about him tbh. blank, so a toss-up. i won't cry if he's lynched, but wharves.
He seems like a decent lynch to us.

In post 124, Nazarene wrote:I would only be willing to lynch Kag today if we lynch TIP tomorrow if Kag flips town. Discuss.

-A
how about an urgency and desire in finding the right person today to lynch?? *shrug*
Which is why I am imposing conditions on people I would rather not lynch.

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Post Post #263 (isolation #43) » Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:55 am

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I'm liking bert better now.
I'm also feeling, just as garruk is, that TIP probably is town but very likely to be mislynched. Aegor doesn't really agree here.

Anyway, we want to move a vote to where we both feel comfortable. That would mean either towards kagami or towards alduskkel.

VOTE: alduskkel

He's been coasting pretty hard on his orc vote now and I see no attempts at figuring out the game. All the stuff he says is incredibly weak and useless.

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Post Post #268 (isolation #44) » Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:44 am

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In post 265, Medea the Alien wrote:Tier-Nazarene, why is Alduskkel less useful than TIP and orcinus?
Can't believe I said he was. All three are pretty useless, mkay.

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Post Post #271 (isolation #45) » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:50 pm

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I want an answer to ald's question: how can anyone really be town reading TIP at the moment?
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Post Post #290 (isolation #46) » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:02 am

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I'm sorry, had no idea we were this close to deadline.

How is ald engaging with the game?

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Post Post #293 (isolation #47) » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:35 am

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No, we both have alduskkel as scum. 262 looks actually really scummy for me, the way he talks about you there. Can't you see yourself voting ald?

I'm not convinced TIP is town but he surely makes a shitty mislynch since there is very little information to be gained because both scum and town might have been soft-pushing him like this. The uninspired wagon that has been dragging doesn't really look like a wagon on scum either.
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Post Post #294 (isolation #48) » Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:30 am

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In post 285, Medea the Alien wrote:
In post 271, Nazarene wrote:I want an answer to ald's question: how can anyone really be town reading TIP at the moment?
Do you think it's a valid question? Given where your vote is.
Yes. This Head of the Hydra would love nothing more than to let a metaphorical noose squeeze the life force out of TIP, but my other Head is more reticent in that regard for reasons listed in-thread.

Because I still want an answer to my inquiry in before the deadline runs out...
I can answer only for myself. Orc has content. I do not like that content very much, but at least it is there. Ald has made no attempt to scumhunt whatsoever except for a completely awful and factually inaccurate case on orc. TIP should die a horrible death, but as my other Head has stated, he is a low-info lynch. Ald therefore has the edge.


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Post Post #295 (isolation #49) » Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:31 am

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And we agree about Ald. It is simply a matter of which horribly scummy player is the scummiest, and which should be lynched today (they do not necessarily coincide).


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Post Post #297 (isolation #50) » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:36 am

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It is really disturbing to this Head of the Hydra that activity is this low at seven hours before deadline. I suppose people have work, but a NL is frightening possible.

This Head vehemently recommends that those who are the only ones voting their current vote targets pick from among the 2-vote wagons.

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Post Post #299 (isolation #51) » Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:06 am

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Guys what the crap

Get your fucking asses in here

PN why don't you wanna vote ald?
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Post Post #302 (isolation #52) » Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:50 am

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Aegor, prolly digs this, but I feel truly unhappy to hop onto a wagon that consists of a scumread and 2 so-so reads. But a no lynch would make me feel worse.

VOTE: tip

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Post Post #304 (isolation #53) » Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:11 pm

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Eh, I feel really bad about my vote.

UNVOTE:
Aegor can revote if he wants to.

Garruk, why not ald?
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Post Post #308 (isolation #54) » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:14 pm

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This Head of the Hydra will hammer TIP near deadline unless someone beats me to it. Others this Head would be willing to hammer:

Ald
Kagami

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Post Post #312 (isolation #55) » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:34 pm

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Was literally about to post. Thank you.

VOTE: TIP just in case.

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Post Post #334 (isolation #56) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:02 am

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Kagami how did you know gif knew you killed PN?

Giffy, what does that statement about you having been an IC mean?

I'll do my rereading soon.

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Post Post #338 (isolation #57) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:08 am

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Gif is your investigative role 1-shot?
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Post Post #347 (isolation #58) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:40 am

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In post 342, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 338, Nazarene wrote:Gif is your investigative role 1-shot?
VOTE: nazarene
Yo I'm just trying to gauge the likelyhood of gif getting a false positive.

Gif, you don't actually have to tell me your role but you may tell me if it's likely to get false positives.
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Post Post #349 (isolation #59) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:25 am

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Yeah I mean the chance of him getting untrustable results. I mean, if he gets something like full cop, there might be a chance of a miller or something. If he gets a 1-shot cop however this is way less likely. I think you can see what I'm getting at.
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Post Post #351 (isolation #60) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:51 am

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In post 321, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:naz are you still hated?
We are not Hated anymore.

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Post Post #353 (isolation #61) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:47 am

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In post 350, Kagami wrote:By telling you that I killed PN, I've given you strictly more information than GiF originally had, so I don't think there's benefit in pursuing this line of thought other beyond revealing a role.
What are you saying, I shouldn't discuss a guilty?

I'm gonna wait for input from medea and ald here.

Also dammit Aegor why couldn't you let us keep on annoying orc :/

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Post Post #371 (isolation #62) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:23 pm

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This Head of the Hydra does not like all the vague info upon which we are basing our discussions thus far today.
In post 336, Kagami wrote: He very clearly was softing a guilty, which means he's an investigator who isn't a cop.
How does that follow at all?

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Post Post #372 (isolation #63) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:45 pm

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In post 359, Kagami wrote:0 scum and 2 scum on a townwagon are both somewhat uncommon, so there's high probability that both wagons have 1 scum. My wagon already has two conf-towns, TIP and NP, suggesting that Garruk or Naz is scum.
Sure, it's uncommon, but it's nothing to base a case on. For one, I think you're scum, so that wagon is all town and the TIP wagon was a such wagon that would draw very little suspicion to be on. Assuming the neighbour is scum, scum definitely would have wanted TIP out of the way and there was very little risk to wagon him, so I think both scum were on there (also by virtue of the other wagon being all town).

I do not understand the comment about medea knowing you are town, what knowledge does medea have that we have not?

I can't actually believe that the kind of guilty gif has is spoiled by telling us. I don't know why he wouldn't just tell. We feel uncomfortable not knowing what we are sheeping. So GiF, will you please enlighten us?

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Post Post #377 (isolation #64) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 6:27 am

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In post 372, Nazarene wrote:I do not understand the comment about medea knowing you are town, what knowledge does medea have that we have not?
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Post Post #381 (isolation #65) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:19 am

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In post 248, Garruk Relentless wrote:Medea.

I think you're town
Why did you think they were town and do you still think the same way?

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Post Post #389 (isolation #66) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 6:03 pm

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This Head of the Hydra is fine with a mass claim. This Head does not want a lylo mass claim.

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Post Post #395 (isolation #67) » Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:16 am

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You sure need to elaborate on that.

I'm not particularly interested in a massclaim. Why should we?

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Post Post #403 (isolation #68) » Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:48 am

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The Heads of the Hydra feel that the scum is/are within the following:

Kagami
Medea
Ald

The Heads of the Hydra furthermore feel that Medea would be the ideal lynch for today, since that slot's flip would yield the most interesting associative reads and other connections. is meh and could very well be a bus vote. In fact, we predicted that Medea would strongly push for kag's lynch.

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Post Post #405 (isolation #69) » Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:04 am

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Let me add to that.

Gif, I can see why you think the reaction to the daycop was townish. I thought so at first. But when I saw it again, I liked it less and less and conveys exactly what I think about it, especially how the reads were just there to drive attention away. This might actually be
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reason why bert was NK'd, kag/med scumteam anyone?

I can't see however how you think any of her other posts are town since they all give me the chills. They all look so shallow and fake when you really look at them. Can you explain why their other posts look good?

If you feel really badly about the hated mechanic, it makes sense with our flavor and I can claim it if you really want us to.

Ald's latest post has a shit readslist in them because I feel reasonably confident that all his scumreads are town. I get one feeling that he's sort of buddying up to kag, another that he just hasn't read the thread at all.

Kagami has been all around scummy and has a guilty on her, so yeah.

P-edit: am I not just a nice guy for explaining?

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Post Post #408 (isolation #70) » Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:09 am

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Then what would the benefit of a mass flavor claim be, given that the roles are inscrutable? None of them would mean anything anyway.

The Heads of the Hydra will full claim the Hated mechanic. This Hydra was Hated Day 1. Doubters may look to this Head's crumb soon after the Hated claim:

In post 42, Nazarene wrote:
In post 41, Kagami wrote:Are they any conditions under which you become un-hated?
Yes. They are innocuous and we will let you know when they arrive, but none of them are relevant
today
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Post Post #413 (isolation #71) » Thu Mar 20, 2014 3:45 pm

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This Head of the Hydra is V/LA until the end of the weekend.

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Post Post #415 (isolation #72) » Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:32 pm

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Okay, let me first say that I'm
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mass flavor claim. And more or less because of this inconsistency in kagami's posting, in which she shows that roles are not inscrutable.
In post 332, Kagami wrote:He had already soft-claimed The Sun, and there's no reasonable interpretation of that card that implies an investigator or something that scum might be afraid of. He hadn't softed anything threatening to scum either. There's no motivation for killing him if I were scum.
In post 409, Kagami wrote:The roles are inscrutable, but they make sense. Flavor claiming now makes it harder to fake-claim tomorrow, but does so without directly revealing roles.
I will flavorclaim, but just to make the hated thing all click in your minds.
We are the hanged man.

Light: Overcoming the ego, changing life, a new sight of the world

And this explains day 1 hated.

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Post Post #424 (isolation #73) » Fri Mar 21, 2014 11:04 am

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I still don't think PN is an implausible NK and I still don't see how he is a plausible vigkill, he was pretty obviously town with his late-day posting and medea would have made much more sense for a vigkill.

Ald, stop being a lazy fuck and do an elaborate readslist. By that, I mean at least a few sentences on every player. I'm very much wanting to vote you if it weren't for the medea flip I want badly.

Ald, if you think claiming doesn't hurt town, go ahead. Exactly how confirmes would you be?
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Post Post #425 (isolation #74) » Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:29 pm

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prod garruk, please

In post 419, Kagami wrote:cool, if my setup spec theory is correct, then we should def flavor claim and look into "shadow" readings.
What does this mean?

VOTE: medea
Die scumfuck

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Post Post #439 (isolation #75) » Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:08 pm

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Are you still softconfirmable if you claim tomorrow?
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Post Post #444 (isolation #76) » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:09 pm

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This Head of the Hydra intends to hammer.

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Post Post #446 (isolation #77) » Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:38 pm

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Great. This Head of the Hydra would love to hear your theories tomorrow.

VOTE: Kagani

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Post Post #447 (isolation #78) » Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:39 pm

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The drama of that moment has been lessened by my typo-afflicted phone post.
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Post Post #464 (isolation #79) » Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:53 pm

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Ok, medea is next. Then gif, then orc, then us?
Since we're apparently conftown now.
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Post Post #467 (isolation #80) » Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:35 am

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If you promise medea is next
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Post Post #469 (isolation #81) » Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:11 am

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It's ridiculous I have to go first already.

I want medea to claim before both orc and gif.
So you'll have to stand for that.
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Post Post #470 (isolation #82) » Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:16 pm

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In case the wording needs to be more explicit, the Heads of the Hydra will claim on the condition that orc and gif agree not to claim until after Medea claims. We will not claim before we have this guarantee.

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Post Post #480 (isolation #83) » Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:22 pm

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Medea, you here?
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Post Post #481 (isolation #84) » Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:23 pm

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Yesterday's lynch wasn't bad considering we had some sort of guilty yaknow
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Post Post #484 (isolation #85) » Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:23 pm

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Ok let's go

Day 1 hated, 1-shot nexus
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Post Post #500 (isolation #86) » Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:09 pm

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I'm gonna try to be objective till Ivtalk to Aegor
In post 485, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:actually

so i'm looking at medea/GiF as the team right now...?
Why not ald?
In post 489, Medea the Alien wrote:Right so you're a 2shot role in a world of oneshots, okay then.

And here I was thinking it was possible you were town along with naz and it was ald-gif or something.

VOTE: orc
What is the reason orc is scum? Cos he votes you? Because his ability is 2-shot?
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Post Post #502 (isolation #87) » Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:13 pm

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What did you realize
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Post Post #504 (isolation #88) » Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:17 pm

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Finally you see that me and orc are conf if no nokill.

Uh, why not you?
Why did you jk gif last night?
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Post Post #508 (isolation #89) » Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:20 pm

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Well

I guess we really need gif to claim now.
Do you think scum follower makes sense?
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Post Post #514 (isolation #90) » Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:25 pm

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Why did you think orc was scum at first? Before you unvoted?
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Post Post #516 (isolation #91) » Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:27 pm

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Orc is asleep I think.

Let's see if we have a quickhammer!
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Post Post #527 (isolation #92) » Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:56 pm

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Okay medea why are you not voting ald

In fact why am I not?
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Post Post #551 (isolation #93) » Tue Apr 01, 2014 8:28 pm

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Much has happened. Will catch up tomorrow.

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Post Post #553 (isolation #94) » Wed Apr 02, 2014 5:29 pm

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@Mod: Stray bold opening tag in your VC.


Medea's claim works as either alignment.

We have two nights with no mac kills. This Head of the Hydra finds it possible that Mafia gets no NKs at all. This Head does not see why this Hydra would be targeted either night, and GiF seemed like an odd NK choice after he led to a lynch on a townie (Maf Follower is not an outrageous idea).

Orc's claim clearly does not fit, but unless someone wants to this Head that Orc neither was provided with a fake claim nor took a moment to realize that his claim did not fit and did not even claim a passive modifier when prompted, it is not particularly damning.


GiF should fully claim. Ald looks really off. Will converse with my other Head. The Heads of the Hydra will post substantially after the mass claim.

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Post Post #559 (isolation #95) » Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:15 pm

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Flavor?
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Post Post #563 (isolation #96) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 3:45 am

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Ok, so we have all the claims. I don't see a certain combination being too broken, but I don't think we have a town doctor+a town JK. As we think orc is town, that makes medea scum. Since it's all one/two-shots, it's not rock-solid tho.
Medea, did you think gif's follow was one-shot? Why did you JK him again?

Then there is gif with a weird joat claim. I definitely believe a maf JOAT, so I want you to fully claim, gif. I townread you from early game, but Aegor doesn't share this.

And there is ald. Who calls himself soft-confirmable. Which he isn't at all. Ald, I need you to come in here and talk about your suspicions.

Tippy why don't you talk to me.

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Post Post #564 (isolation #97) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 3:48 am

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Orc why isn't ald scum

I can definitely see med-gif but why are you putting all your money on that?
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Post Post #565 (isolation #98) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:32 am

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Ok wait I reread.

There is ZERO interaction between gif and medea

Ald is making me waffly but well his softconf seems legit

Since Aegor and I already decided orc is town, there's little use in postponing this.

But I will postpone this just a bit.

Aegor, make the vote if you feel good about it.
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Post Post #571 (isolation #99) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:48 am

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Shhh I think gif med is the scumteam too

Let me just reread you a last time

And let ald come in here and be convinced
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Post Post #573 (isolation #100) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:40 am

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If you really care, do a medea+gif iso and tell me what you think.
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Post Post #575 (isolation #101) » Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:44 am

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Geez ok its medea gif alright

VOTE: medea
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Post Post #576 (isolation #102) » Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:47 am

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Like really all the stuff you point out isn't alignment indicative at all and you know that, but well...

You know orc claimed to have targeted me day 2 already huh

Anyway lol ald if you need proof do a medea+gif ISO and look at all the buddy tells

Mostjy the town spot medea got by gif that orc and PN already talked about.
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Post Post #597 (isolation #103) » Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:51 pm

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Ald, I am never playing with you again. You are so fucking dumb I cannot even start.


BTW, Tier and I had the scum team pegged in our QT.
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Post Post #598 (isolation #104) » Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:51 pm

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-A
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Post Post #600 (isolation #105) » Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:06 pm

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I get to blacklist whomever I want.

And I blacklist people who respond to a prod with a vote in lylo after not contributing all game. That is not giving him shit because you did your job right; that is giving him shit for playing terribly and in a way that ruins the entire game.

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