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50 Shades of Purple Mafia Scum
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I also very strongly disagree that Dave's Nero stance was underdeveloped: I disagree with the conclusion, but the logic to get there was fairly on point and the only reason it ends up being incorrect is because it assumes too much classic, logical town play and is lacking experience of Nero.Cabd: Does Home Freakin Depot sell sex toys alongside the hardware or something? Because all we have here in California is plain old Home Depot.
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50 Shades of Purple Mafia Scum
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In post 1098, wgeurts wrote:Hmm...
Sorry massive, just ISO'ed you and I have to agree with the rest.
VOTE: Massive
This progression is also clearly just wg looking for a reason to vote massive and I hate it.Cabd: Does Home Freakin Depot sell sex toys alongside the hardware or something? Because all we have here in California is plain old Home Depot.
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50 Shades of Purple Mafia Scum
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In post 1111, massive wrote:I already know neither Anti nor TTH can actually read me. I know Nero pretty much HAS to vote me if he wants to generate any town cred for himself. But BY CROM that wguerts vote was horrible.
People jumping on wguerts for "voting without a reason" should probably look at every single person voting me b
What do you mean by "Nero has to vote you for towncred"?Cabd: Does Home Freakin Depot sell sex toys alongside the hardware or something? Because all we have here in California is plain old Home Depot.
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50 Shades of Purple Mafia Scum
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In post 1134, sthar8 wrote:In post 1112, davesaz wrote:Absolutely.
Were you voting for a real wagon at the end of the day?
In post 1107, Heartless wrote:In post 1085, sthar8 wrote:In post 1078, Heartless wrote:VOTE: massive
will also accept dave and 50 shades votes
all other votes are inferior and will be made fun of by me
VOTE: massive
i'm pretty pissed at all of you right now. Seriously, fuck all of you.
Why are you pissed at us?
I meant the whole game actually. But I could probably absolve anyone voting for massive at the end of the day.
Also, why are you voting massive? I recall you responded to Antihero's question about your read on massive by saying this:
In post 1036, sthar8 wrote:massive is all cases that I understand but don't agree with, which is not strongly indicative.
How does a massive vote to start today follow?
Did you miss the end of the day yesterday? The deadline wagon that we couldn't push through? He pretty much has to die now.
In post 1116, 50 Shades of Purple wrote:
after the faith game all I can say is
this looks fake as shit.
But not after NY171 or OC?
I'm sorry little miss "lurk out the deadline on a shitty wagon," I can't hear you over the gushing sound of shit spewing from where the players are supposed to be in your slot.
In post 1127, 50 Shades of Purple wrote:In post 1121, Heartless wrote:In post 1115, 50 Shades of Purple wrote:your slot is town cos of anti. but do you wanna like, yanno interact with us or something? cos your avoidance on your own while calling us scum would normally make me go apeshit.
maybe i can help you out here because there's too much tension here that doesn't need to be here
TTH doesn't really trust what she doesn't understand. that's just the way she is in general, btw. and she doesn't understand your sthar push. i'm trying to explain, but i don't think i'm doing a very good job.
iirc, she asked you about it before yesterday ended, but it was too close to the buzzer for you to answer.
i didn't really want to shut TTH down before she gets happy with a townread on you , buuuuuuuuuuuuuuut, i think you're town so it's all just an exercise in absurdity anyway
it is a meta read and I am thinking tso is probs town cos of he started seeing the same thing. I thought he SHOULD have seen it earlier but meh.
I think star's v/la is genuine in that his availability will be unreliable and unpredictable but has already been noted he HAS been around and HAS said in the past that active lurking is a scum strategy of his so I do NOT think that his v/la is a lie cos he is defos not like that I just think that town!star would be posting more when he had the opportunity and he isn't.
Hi mollie.
Get your shit together.
I think I made a post just like this is OC.
Thanks for your time.
Badmeta and skimming and hydra-excuses are things that mollie does as scum.
{massive, mollie, dave} are good votes right now.
I don't know what you mean by hydra excuses.
I don't think "sthar tends to active lurk as scum" is a bad premise when analyzing the majority of player's meats on this site.
And skimming is something that everyone occasionally does: where exactly has Mollie skimmed and misread something of yours?Cabd: Does Home Freakin Depot sell sex toys alongside the hardware or something? Because all we have here in California is plain old Home Depot.
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50 Shades of Purple Mafia Scum
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I also find that accusing us of "lurking out until deadline" is pretty fucked up, considering our sthar wagon was as big as the massive wagon until TSO's last minute flip off it.Cabd: Does Home Freakin Depot sell sex toys alongside the hardware or something? Because all we have here in California is plain old Home Depot.
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Death Stare Goon
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50 Shades of Purple Mafia Scum
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Why is claiming you are a vanilla townie early scummy?Cabd: Does Home Freakin Depot sell sex toys alongside the hardware or something? Because all we have here in California is plain old Home Depot.
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In post 1208, 50 Shades of Purple wrote:Do you mean in cases on wg or analysis by wg? What do you think of his massive votes yesterday/today?
Case by wgeurts on massive; the one you quoted in #1209.
I'd have to look at him again to give you a better answer, but I'm not convinced either way of opportunistic scum or easily influenced town at the moment.
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50 Shades of Purple Mafia Scum
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I have misgivings with a massive wagon because of wg's vote on him and how that progressed alone. His "oh I'm just voting massive to save a VT and you know it's possible I'm claiming VT because I have fear of being counterclaimed bit I totally am not" to the asking for reasons to vote massive and the voting massive later (which seems like he was just looking for an excuse to vote massive). His case afterwards doesn't really help things, considering it boils down to "massive isn't doing anything" and other people's reasoning, which looks suspiciously like his first case on me.Cabd: Does Home Freakin Depot sell sex toys alongside the hardware or something? Because all we have here in California is plain old Home Depot.
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In post 1111, massive wrote:I already know neither Anti nor TTH can actually read me. I know Nero pretty much HAS to vote me if he wants to generate any town cred for himself. But BY CROM that wguerts vote was horrible.
People jumping on wguerts for "voting without a reason" should probably look at every single person voting me b
I also have misgivings with a massive lynch based on how he's defending himself: he's kept up pretty good conviction and frustration throughout the entire process (and its hard to fake when people are absolutely right as opposed to absolutely wrong), and I like that he keeps tunneling Nero although he has much more viable options to save himself elsewhere, although I would personally be much happier if he reached out to me and looked at other scum suspects, considering we are probably looking at a team of three here as opposed to just one scumfuck.Cabd: Does Home Freakin Depot sell sex toys alongside the hardware or something? Because all we have here in California is plain old Home Depot.
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50 Shades of Purple Mafia Scum
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Sthar is Mollie's jam which I promised I'd get around to but haven't quite made it to yet. If she hasn't posted anything concrete on him by the time I get back, I will post something myself.Cabd: Does Home Freakin Depot sell sex toys alongside the hardware or something? Because all we have here in California is plain old Home Depot.
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In post 1198, 50 Shades of Purple wrote:I don't remember the monkeyman pressure, do you mind linking me?
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Nacho, do you have any updated thoughts on MTD?
Reviewing his ISO, I don't care for him.
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In post 1218, MonkeyMan wrote:Wrguerts is scum. How is that not obvious by now?
Actually I'm a town not knowing what I'm doing.
This is my first game here (I signed up to a few newbie games as you recommended) and I'm trying to make sense out of it.-
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What would you say the differences in how the game is played on this site?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 1220, Nero Cain wrote:What would you say the differences in how the game is played on this site?
Well a lot more analysis of everything, 4x longer time periods etc.
It's all a lot more in depth here, I'm learning however I'm having to change my playstyle.-
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As for Sthar's 1171: to tell the truth, I'd been thinking a lot about that post, I'd examined a lot of possibilities but I was able to conclude much fewer things than I wanted to. Partly beacuse of Heartless-TTH's post: 1193
This is everything I found out:
(1) If Massive is scum, the counterwagon might have been Sthar8 and in this case, either 50Shades or Wgeurts is scum, or both of them. The scums might have gone for No Lynch instead of bussing because Massive is a scum-PR and avoiding his lynch was a priority. If both Massive and Wguerts are scum, the Mafia (it's 89% that there are 3 Mafias assuming there's no SK) must have advised Wgeurts to bus Massive on Day2. This may explain his Day2 vote.
(2) If Massive is town, the scums might have missed the opportunity of a mislynch because they weren't here. (Apart from Massive) three playes didn't post in the last 24 hours before Deadline: 50Shades, DeathStare and GreyFox (now BrainSkies). (MTD only posted a prod dodge but he could have moved his vote if he had wanted to.) However, many players weren't here in the last couple of hours – or at least it seems so.
Even these conclusions are a bit unsure because, as TTH pointed it out, there were no real wagons before Sthar's vote.
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@Massive. You didn't claim at L–1, nor at L–2. That was L–5 and THIS is a huge difference. Even if you tried to tell us that it was L–2! Unless a claim helps the town (eg. being able to tell a valuable piece of information having an investigative PR), an unforced claim doesn't help the town. And I've already explained the benefits of such a claim for the scum faction.
The first part of your 1182 seems to be an attempt of shutting down the topic.
@50Shades-Mollie Stop that bullshyt! Sthar is most probably town, I've already explained why. We're not lynching him Today. Aaand, while you're saying that Sthar is scum, sheeping Nero and Heartless with that vote without posting anything about Massive!? Welcome to my scumpool! Some other reasons are posted above too.
@DeathStare. 1204 – That post was about Massive, it contained many things, but I explained in the same post that not everything had been scummy in Massive's gameplay. Why was (4) a "reaction-fish"? In (6) I meant 610, not 620. My bad.
Check out the later posts we're talking with Massive in too.
And yes, Wguerts's case against Massive was pigeon poop. What's your read on Wguerts?
@BrainSkies. I'll reflect to your reads on me if needed as soon as you finish your catchup. In advance, I tell you that your slot was townread by me only because at that point Sthar was a strong scumread of mine. You can find my interrogation and Sthar's answers and my reasons for dropping the case.-
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If you can't (or don't want to) answer my question, then don't post a paragraph regurgitating the same thing you've alrwady said.
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