Open 575: Friends & Enemies-Together At Last (OVER)
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wgeurts They/ThemPokédexThey/Them
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wgeurts They/ThemPokédexThey/Them
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Do you not care to respond to the rest of my post?
Scum want to find masons because masons are the only people other than scum that know people's alignments. So they look for interactive tells.
Which is what you just did with me and Newbie.-
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wgeurts They/ThemPokédexThey/Them
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In post 177, Mathdino wrote:Do you not care to respond to the rest of my post?
Scum want to find masons because masons are the only people other than scum that know people's alignments. So they look for interactive tells.
Which is what you just did with me and Newbie.
So you saying I'm a mason?
Also, I'm looking for possible tells which can come useful later if someone flips scum, at the moment they have no worth. The fact you're not denying my link however does make me think that you and newbie may be linked, the fact your also attacking me for finding tells is also odd.
How many people are in this game?-
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wgeurts They/ThemPokédexThey/Them
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In post 177, Mathdino wrote:Do you not care to respond to the rest of my post?
Scum want to find masons because masons are the only people other than scum that know people's alignments. So they look for interactive tells.
Which is what you just did with me and Newbie.
What do you want me to respond to btw?-
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Mathdino Survivor
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13 people are in this game. And no, I'm saying you're trying to find masons by noting 'weak links'. And yes, I'm attacking you for finding interactive DEFENCIVE tells, because that's information the scum can use. Because masons know each other are town. And are likely to subconsciously defend each other. Have you ever played with masons?
IDK, do you think nothing of my case? I'm not gonna write you off as scum but I certainly will to people who don't defend themselves. Can't say I appreciate you asking me what I 'want'...
Totally off topic: Wisdom, I can't stop reading your posts in L's voice. It's freaking me out.-
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wgeurts They/ThemPokédexThey/Them
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How do I know you're not scum trying to stop me from finding a real link?
What you're saying is absolute BS, links are very helpful to find for all but the scum if it's posed against them. It even helps the masons who in the worst case scenario can claim to stop themselves from being lynched. They aren't exactly the almighty PR so I doubt the mob will kill them over a VT. Associative tells are town, the scum dislikes them if they are right and tries to warp or stop them.-
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wgeurts They/ThemPokédexThey/Them
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Well, on the bright side, you've answered my "Have you ever played with masons" question with a full-on "No".
Scum wants to find masons, because masons can confirm themselves as town by claiming.
Scum wants to kill known masons because they are confirmed town and thus unlikely to be lynched.
You pointing out possible 'weak links' is anti-town because it helps scum PR hunt.
You seriously wouldn't kill masons over a VT?
I legitimately can't tell whether you're pretending to not understand this or really don't. If you don't, then you're noobtown. But given your Slayer Gambit earlier, this could be just one more big reaction test.
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That was written before 181. Now you are FULL ON MASON FISHING.
Lynch this guy. I can't really put it any other way.-
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Sorry for triple post. Written before 182 is what I meant. As in, I didn't see him DIRECTLY ASK ME TO CLAIM.-
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Wisdom Of the One
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In post 174, wgeurts wrote:
I'm not changing my reasons, if we're going to face it it was really weak reasoning I even said that when I gave my reasons. What have I changed? I'm honestly confused.
I still don't get you.
You voted me because me liking wagons didn't sit well with you. Correct?
Now you're calling that reason weak?
And you've even said that you voted me out of thin air (randomly) which is clearly untrue.
So what exactly is the truth?-
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In post 186, Wisdom wrote:Eh. Tbh I feel like scum wouldn't do it so blatantly.
He already proved he's willing to fake a noobtown act; he told me I passed his 'test' by assuming he was noobtown. Because I felt back then that scum wouldn't vote you so blatantly.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...
Directly asking me to claim is a lynchable offence. There is no town motivation to do that.-
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wgeurts They/ThemPokédexThey/Them
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In post 38, wgeurts wrote:In post 28, Mathdino wrote:Well Newbie, that explains your wallposting, haha. Are there any records left of one of your scum games and town games?
@wgeurts: RVS wagons can be good ways of getting reactions out of people. Why so concerned?
I'm not, reaction test are good.
I also will randomly question for reactions as to end the RVS as fast as possible.
In post 37, wgeurts wrote:In post 35, SilverWolf wrote:
Voting, and the reactions to voting, actually provide a lot more info. then just saying you aren't going to vote. Is there some reason you want to hold back?
I usually abstain from RVS and try to figure out and spot any further minor slips. I'll then yank us all out of this stupid phase, huzzah.
In post 43, wgeurts wrote:In post 42, acryon wrote:In post 41, wgeurts wrote:In post 40, Wisdom wrote:In post 36, wgeurts wrote:In post 22, Wisdom wrote:Because I like wagons. How do you feel about that?
Not good.
What are you going to do about that?
Vote you as this is not sitting well with me.
VOTE: Wisdom
So you said you wouldn't vote until there was more info.Thisis more info? Explain.
It's weak info and very assumptious but ok:
You could well be trying to decieve people to look like your a joking town while you may be scum.
It's all the info I've got right now, it's time for me to wait for more.
Wisdom, by thin air I mean nearly nothing, I said that in the same post I wrote down my reason just look at the quotes. Also for all those people accusing me of making up the get out of RVS story, read these to quotes from me before I voted wisdom. Yeah, I had already said what I was intending to do. I'll stop naming links and I'll keep them to myself as you lot seem to disagree with my oppinions on that matter.-
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wgeurts They/ThemPokédexThey/Them
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In post 190, wgeurts wrote:Also for all those people accusing me of making up the get out of RVS story, read these to quotes from me before I voted wisdom. Yeah, I had already said what I was intending to do.
That doesn't make it more town-motivated. You could have been preparing the ground for your "get out of RVS" act with those posts.-
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Mathdino Survivor
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You planning on continuing to ignore me? I would legit be flabbergasted if no one votes you by tomorrow just for that. I asked you a total of five (5) questions in that spoilered post. Two (2) of them are rhetorical and don't necessarily require answering, but it'd still be nice if you actually explained yourself to the people voting you.
That's not an opinion, brother. Asking for claims and pointing out links between people directly helps the scum hunt for PRs. The scum know more than the town does. They can use what town says about links better than the town can.
Edit: lol I still think his Slayer Gambit was planned. Except as scum fishing for reactions, since that gambit is insanely inaccurate.-
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wgeurts They/ThemPokédexThey/Them
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In post 194, Mathdino wrote:You planning on continuing to ignore me? I would legit be flabbergasted if no one votes you by tomorrow just for that. I asked you a total of five (5) questions in that spoilered post. Two (2) of them are rhetorical and don't necessarily require answering, but it'd still be nice if you actually explained yourself to the people voting you.
That's not an opinion, brother. Asking for claims and pointing out links between people directly helps the scum hunt for PRs. The scum know more than the town does. They can use what town says about links better than the town can.
Edit: lol I still think his Slayer Gambit was planned. Except as scum fishing for reactions, since that gambit is insanely inaccurate.
Could you quote the questions I've missed?-
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wgeurts They/ThemPokédexThey/Them
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In post 193, Wisdom wrote:In post 190, wgeurts wrote:Also for all those people accusing me of making up the get out of RVS story, read these to quotes from me before I voted wisdom. Yeah, I had already said what I was intending to do.
That doesn't make it more town-motivated. You could have been preparing the ground for your "get out of RVS" act with those posts.
Doesn't that seem a little far fetched?
Why would scum try to get out of RVS and why would they force it themselves instead of blending in and going with the flow.-
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In post 161, Mathdino wrote:This post is gonna be a joyride. NO ONE QUOTE ALL OF IT.
Spoiler:
Okay I decided to spoiler the above but I highly recommend y'all reading. If you're gonna quote parts of it, remove the spoiler tag.
Conclusions: wgeurts is way scummier than I thought before, but since I still don't think Victor and he are scum together, I'm going to keep my vote on Victor for now. Scumspects are in order, Victor or wgeurts, and TTH. Newbie still seems town.
I bolded my questions.-
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In post 196, wgeurts wrote:In post 193, Wisdom wrote:In post 190, wgeurts wrote:Also for all those people accusing me of making up the get out of RVS story, read these to quotes from me before I voted wisdom. Yeah, I had already said what I was intending to do.
That doesn't make it more town-motivated. You could have been preparing the ground for your "get out of RVS" act with those posts.
Doesn't that seem a little far fetched?
Why would scum try to get out of RVS and why would they force it themselves instead of blending in and going with the flow.
For towncred? "Look, I got us out of RVS, I'm totally town"-
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wgeurts They/ThemPokédexThey/Them
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Thank you,
1. It was opportunistic as it happened right as discussion on me was picking up and he used no new arguments.
2. It's not scum-hunting if you're using others reasonig as your own.
3. I can't link any games as they are all ongoing.
4. Yes, had he done it at any other given moment in time it would have been fine.
5. I meant that Wisdom was random voting in the RVS and I made some crappy reason to start discussion.
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