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sthar8 Mafia Scum
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You guys could lynch me and then you could talk about how mollie's scum.-
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In post 1275, MonkeyMan wrote:Activity is dead.
You have the option of contributing to the problem or the solution. Seems quite a few of your recent posts are contributing to the problem.
Do you have any other scum reads? Or reads in general? No, I don't want to read the thread, I want you to say what you're thinking.
Why move your vote away from someone who is clearly scum to you, and onto someone who posted a setup theory? Why not change your vote back?
I can't tell if Heartless and 50Shades moving off massive is the result of a legitimate read on sthar, or scum trying to keep us so confused we can't lynch anyone.
One of my problems this game is that the hydras are not internally consistent, which is keeping my reads on them in a continuous state of churn. When there are 2-3 players in a game who are highly inconsistent, it makes the game very difficult. More problems are the AtE's like sthar's "fuck you all" post, which is either sad if the V/LA was legit, or genius if it was not. Add a few apathetic (probable) townies, and there isn't enough material to get a definite scum!!! on anyone.
I guess the best thing to do is concentrate on the best available maybe scum.
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In post 1276, sthar8 wrote:You guys could lynch me and then you could talk about how mollie's scum.
With two votes, you're posting this? Nothing keeping you from doing things like, actually hunting scum. Considering that at least two of us (wgeurts and myself) are lacking the meta background, quoting stuff in this thread to push your scum reads would be a really good thingTM. Not that I really care that much about you convincing wgeurts, since he's probably scum, but you could make it easy for me. Unless you're trying to make it hard on us.
If you're town and blowing off the game with no reason, that's against wincon. I give you benefit of the doubt that there could be a reason...-
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In post 1253, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1152, davesaz wrote:235 is some good insight into wgeurts at that point in the game, and digs at Nero and MonkeyMan for their focus on newbietells.
I also disagree with this. Not only do I know that I'm town and I feel like Monkey is town (he has 1 post that makes me a lil' uneasy but meh) so he's misreading two townies, but that's null. Both voting for no lynch and or advocating for no lynch and defending a "pl" or in this case, a perceived pl, or both things that can and have come from newb scum. Wgurts is just as likely to receive a red pm as the rest of us so him being a newbie doesn't mean we should ignore bad/newbie play. You should not be using this as a towntell for sthar me thinks.
I'm using it in read progression on sthar, to answer the question "was the focus moving during the active period". It's trying to read the active period and see what that says if we ignore the inactive period. More recently, I'm losing faith in sthar big time. Even if the V/LA was genuine, behavior after the V/LA looks like crap. I just posted a wake up call, we'll see what happens.
I expected a newbtown wgeurts to wake up and adjust. That didn't happen, and it's been going downhill, hence my vote.-
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In post 1277, davesaz wrote:I can't tell if Heartless and 50Shades moving off massive is the result of a legitimate read on sthar, or scum trying to keep us so confused we can't lynch anyone.
oh wow, that's fucking rich coming from you
someone who's been voting non-consensus vanity wagons all game-
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In post 1277, davesaz wrote:In post 1275, MonkeyMan wrote:Activity is dead.
You have the option of contributing to the problem or the solution. Seems quite a few of your recent posts are contributing to the problem.
Do you have any other scum reads? Or reads in general? No, I don't want to read the thread, I want you to say what you're thinking.
Why move your vote away from someone who is clearly scum to you, and onto someone who posted a setup theory? Why not change your vote back?
I can't tell if Heartless and 50Shades moving off massive is the result of a legitimate read on sthar, or scum trying to keep us so confused we can't lynch anyone.
One of my problems this game is that the hydras are not internally consistent, which is keeping my reads on them in a continuous state of churn. When there are 2-3 players in a game who are highly inconsistent, it makes the game very difficult. More problems are the AtE's like sthar's "fuck you all" post, which is either sad if the V/LA was legit, or genius if it was not. Add a few apathetic (probable) townies, and there isn't enough material to get a definite scum!!! on anyone.
I guess the best thing to do is concentrate on the best available maybe scum.
VOTE: wgeurts
I just have a case that not a single person has commented on. Don't say I am part of the problem when people are not responding to anything I creaking say.-
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50 Shades of Purple Mafia Scum
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In post 1217, Heartless wrote:Nacho, do you have any updated thoughts on MTD?
Reviewing his ISO, I don't care for him.
-TTH
I liked him a little bit when he made his second catchup, but then he continued doing absolutely nothing and I'm back to not really liking him.Cabd: Does Home Freakin Depot sell sex toys alongside the hardware or something? Because all we have here in California is plain old Home Depot.
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In post 1236, sthar8 wrote:Basically all the "I'm not talking about whatever because I called nacho and we didn't talk about mafia!" is empty and useless and excuses for avoiding things.
I don't really think this is fair: all of those things you pointed out were things that were addressed pretty soon after those excuses were made. You've also hydra'ed before and you know people like to run their hydrae in different ways, so this point is just picking on how our hydra is run unless you're trying to argue that we aren't producing content.Cabd: Does Home Freakin Depot sell sex toys alongside the hardware or something? Because all we have here in California is plain old Home Depot.
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In post 1236, sthar8 wrote:The argument is that I lurk tactically for advantage as scum. a) I haven't been active lurking, I was actually just v/la for a while and b) mollie started pushing me for being absent while I was V/LA and didn't let up when I came back. She knows my meats, she knows I can be inconsistent sometimes. She knows it's not a scumtell, and in fact she knows that I'm more likely to be super active as scum.
She attacked you while you were being V/LA for posting elsewhere, which I don't find unreasonable if you're known for tactical lurking.Cabd: Does Home Freakin Depot sell sex toys alongside the hardware or something? Because all we have here in California is plain old Home Depot.
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In post 1236, sthar8 wrote:Sure, it's also a sign that you're not engaged in the game. Mollie has a harder time engaging as scum. I think it's cause she's so sweet.
And really? Not being aware of the nightkill?
When Mollie is scum, it is obvious that she isn't engaged because she doesn't post and she doesn't believe in her pushes: she doesn't mind reading games as scum more than she minds reading games as town, she minds posting and manipulating people. If you want to make a case for us being unengaged, make the case.Cabd: Does Home Freakin Depot sell sex toys alongside the hardware or something? Because all we have here in California is plain old Home Depot.
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In post 1237, sthar8 wrote:In post 1193, Heartless wrote:I thought about it and I think your theory is flawed, sthar.
Maybe but mollie and nacho are both proficient enough to know that we needed to start consolidating. What did they do instead? Stop posting. I think they were hoping that my wagon would be the deadline compromise, shitty as it was.
I didn't strategically stop posting, I figured that your wagon would be the deadline compromise and I think that was a reasonable belief to hold at the time considering no one was calling you town. I think that your attempt to solidify massive as confirmed scum because he didn't get lynched yesterday is crap.Cabd: Does Home Freakin Depot sell sex toys alongside the hardware or something? Because all we have here in California is plain old Home Depot.
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In post 1254, MonkeyMan wrote:For real, what do I have to do to get people to talk to or about me?
What do you think of sthar?Cabd: Does Home Freakin Depot sell sex toys alongside the hardware or something? Because all we have here in California is plain old Home Depot.
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In post 1257, Brian Skies wrote:In post 1243, 50 Shades of Purple wrote:I am waiting for brian to fully catch up.
I feel like monkey's post about feeling left out reads as lost town. I DON"T get the same vibe from wgurtz thing.
I got to like page 31 today (walls and arguments out of nowhere slowed me down), and I'm hoping I can finish my catch up tomorrow. I decided not to do a similar post to my last one because I don't feel like posting things that will be redundant.
I agree with you that Monkey's probably town. His conviction and frustration reads genuine to me.
I don't know what changed between page 31 and now that you don't get similar vibes from Wg because I thought your slot was townreading him yesterday. But I've generally gotten the feeling that he's playing cautiously and trying to look pro-town by saying pro-town things while actually not doing anything productive (at least not up to where I'm at). And I can't wrap my head around what he thinks is scummy about Death. It feels fabricated.
In post 484, 50 Shades of Purple wrote:In post 300, wgeurts wrote:Also voting monkey if my gut is right would make monkey seem alot less scummy in the case of DS' es death.
this guy is literally styling on pretty much 80% of the game right now
I don't understand what he's saying in that post and I didn't think it was that important. Could you explain it to me since you seemed to be pretty giddy about it?
@Nero: I was scumreading you in Apocalypse only because you were trying to get Titus lynched and I was strongly townreading her. I have no comment on the other game.
I thought wg was town earlier in the game, but then started hating him after his reaction to his wagon. In particular, I didn't like his jump on massive's wagon and I didn't like his vote on massive Day 2, nor have I liked anything he's said Day 2.Cabd: Does Home Freakin Depot sell sex toys alongside the hardware or something? Because all we have here in California is plain old Home Depot.
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I was giddy when wg was posting earlier because he had Death Stare in his sights, who I thought was scum and still think is scum, and then was starting to drop the monkey scumread he had earlier. This was cool in a time when I didn't feel many people were drawing solid conclusions.Cabd: Does Home Freakin Depot sell sex toys alongside the hardware or something? Because all we have here in California is plain old Home Depot.
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In post 1281, davesaz wrote:If I don't think someone is scum, I'm not going to join the wagon.
Try actually proving a case, maybe someone will believe you. And something which is not meta based, because I don't give a rat's ass about the meta.
What are your full thoughts on sthar?Cabd: Does Home Freakin Depot sell sex toys alongside the hardware or something? Because all we have here in California is plain old Home Depot.
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In post 1277, davesaz wrote:I guess the best thing to do is concentrate on the best available maybe scum.
VOTE: wgeurts
Can you point to somewhere in the thread where you explain this?
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I've been thinking wgeurts is scum for a long time. But since you ask I can see that I never fully explained it in my own words.
Spoiler: long quoted post
In post 1043, davesaz wrote:I saw the same things on wgeurts. On phone so cant easily quote with the small screen and kbd.
VOTE: wgeurts
I need to get my shit together and do RL things right now. There is more stuff since then on wgeurts which doesn't make him any less scum IMO.-
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VOTE: wgeurts
I am also more than happy with this wagon for reasons previously explained. I also know a few of my townreads (Nero Cain, 50 Shades, and Anenien) who would also vote this wagon so it seems to be our best hope of reaching a consensus right now.
There are a few things I'd like to say to Anenien and dave that I won't right now because I'm too tired. So I'll push it to tomorrow.
-TTH-
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