Mini 1663: Rick and Morty Mafia (Game Over)

[lufan131]

/comfirm

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/confirm

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VOTE: Jingle. Same reason as everyone else, has info he shouldn't have.

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The game's queue will help tell.

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What is omgus?

It's short for "Oh my god... You suck". When someone votes someone since someone voted them.

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Meds guy I like u are doing work but u are wrong about me. Ask ur hydra buddies if they got same read like you did

What is omgus?

It's short for "Oh my god... You suck". When someone votes someone since someone voted them.

And your reads are?

He was actually at L-1; I counted six votes.
The answer to your question should be pretty obvious. Quickhammers and such, yada yada yada...

So what's wrong with quickhammering someone who scumslipped? You've drove him to the moment of him being lynched. Why back out now?

It's not a foolproof scumslip and we don't do 4 page quicklynches. That's not how things work around here.

You sure sounded a lot more confident back there for a non-foolproof scumslip there.

I don't think he's town.
His push on jingle earlier was real strong until jingle pulled off some bullshit about him thinking of him being lynched when heartless started to pull out. The strong stance suddenly dropping from a WIFOM look real wrong to me and makes me think if those were some pre-planned bullshit.

You can't distinguish between the hydra heads?

I don't know why this matters.

Is OMGUS a scum tell where you come from, Meds?

Oh, no, not really. I voted him because I didn't like the way he did the OMGUS.

lol what? feigning ignorance?
i said what on earth is dark coalition because i didn't see it anywhere in the intro or what not and based on what i read here, it appears to be the name of the scum team, no?

Excluding the moderator posts and confirmation there were less than 70 posts. I think it should've been very clear with d3x posted I quoted back there.

Easy, Just jingle is scummy IMO. I'm feeling meds and heartless are town, though. Rest are null.

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i said what on earth is dark coalition because i didn't see it anywhere in the intro or what not and based on what i read here, it appears to be the name of the scum team, no?

Then why did you vote Jingle?

What is omgus?

It's short for "Oh my god... You suck". When someone votes someone since someone voted them.

How was that OMGUS though? It has a very clear reason as to why he voted him that isn't OMGUS.

Easy, Just jingle is scummy IMO.

Are you ignoring my question to actually explain that read because you didn't see it or because you don't know how to actually answer it and hope the question just goes away?

@MMWW - I think Jingle is somewhat likely town in large part because the entire wagon are scum reads. The "scumslip" thing is I am arguing is a null tell, because most of the time its just someone having said something very oddly.

Vote lufan

That may make the questions harder to ignore.

Yeah, I'm bad at explaining why. I'm not sure how it's OMGUS, but, I know what it means.

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I'm still alive, and the vote stands (don't want a prod)

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I see how voting jingle was a bad idea. VOTE: RiP

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Um, what exactly is bussing? I know it's scum trying to lynch other scum, but when does it go from that to being other things?

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@lufan131 can you explain why you found voting Jingle to be a bad idea and switched to RIP?

meanwhile...

vote: lufan131

Because I knew that Jingle was less likely to be scum due to the flash-wagon, and if it didn't succeed, I figured I'd have no reason to vote anymore, due to it being a hopeless cause?

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It says that I'm likely to be town because of how fast the wagon was. And independent of that, he has no reason to vote me because "[lynching me] is a hopeless cause."

Unless I'm reading that wrong, he's saying that he'd lynch me if he could AND he thinks I'm town. Luffa, care to clarify? Cause that sounds like a scumclaim to me.

Also could someone who isn't mobile check when he invited, cause I remember it being significantly after the wagon started collapsing and if that's true its proof that he's full of BS.

I unvoted after it collapsed. I just have remembered when I played, hyperlynching usually results in the death of a town player. I also believe that it's a hopeless cause to lynch someone after the wagon has collapsed, although I still sucmread you, and think it's for the best.

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I unvoted after it collapsed. I just have remembered when I played, hyperlynching usually results in the death of a town player. I also believe that it's a hopeless cause to lynch someone after the wagon has collapsed, although I still sucmread you, and think it's for the best.

Seriously, though, does no one else see the cogdis here? Am I nuts?

cogdis?

[lufan131]

Is English your native language, lufan?

English is my mother tongue, yes.

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OK, so did you unvote Jingle because you think he's likely to flip town or because you can't lynch him? Because you kind of just said both.

Because I can't lynch him, although I believe he's scum.

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Can someone explain cogdis?

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AWESOME! It works!

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lufan, this is a game, not some place for you to troll or blog. care to play?

Yeah, lol.

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Ahh, that's what it's called. I feel it all the time even over little things.

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considering voting rip he might be more of a hinderance than help. RIP I am sure you think yourself validated in acting this way, but do you act the same way in the forum you're from? How about some analysis instead of criticisms and cynicism? It is not in the least bit helpful. No I am not complaining about your playstyle merely offering some friendly advice, and saying that your playstyle is very VI-esque and would be okay with your lynch.

What site are you from btw? Not sure if you answered this before.

I have a feeling he's from 6p, like myself. That's how I know the noobs there act, including myself.

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attn: lufan

OK, so did you unvote Jingle because you think he's likely to flip town or because you can't lynch him? Because you kind of just said both.

Because I can't lynch him, although I believe he's scum.

OK.

So what's this all about then?

I unvoted after it collapsed.

I just have remembered when I played, hyperlynching usually results in the death of a town player.

I also believe that it's a hopeless cause to lynch someone after the wagon has collapsed, although I still sucmread you, and think it's for the best.

Because I knew that Jingle was less likely to be scum due to the flash-wagon

, and if it didn't succeed, I figured I'd have no reason to vote anymore, due to it being a hopeless cause?

It's while I believe he's scum, the fact that if a wagon occurs too fast, it's usually built by scum against town. I want to believe he's scum even though the math says he's town.

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In this case, I think Flames is likely to be scum, although someone else pushed the wagon earlier who then left it. I think they're scum, although their name has slipped my head.

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RIP and Heartless... Yeah. Heartless and RIP were the ones leading the wagon. I feel one is scum out of those two, so both are a scumread.

[lufan131]

yo.

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I can break out the music and bold if you want a reception party. You up for it?

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WOO~ LETS DO THIS! PARTY TIME!

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It's no fun to party alone, so I'll invite Yotsuya

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Uh

WOO! Parties with uninvited guests are even cooler! lol

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If everyone wants to lynch me, can we get this over with? I'm not a fan of waiting around at L-3

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I'm saying that if the general consensus is that I'm a scum read, than me being lynched has to be best for the majority, right? I don't care who you eat, although it must hurt to get eaten, and I'd like you to think about that before becoming a cannibal.
Oh, perhaps I should mention I have a 1-shot role? A BP vig for a night.

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Exactly the reaction I wanted! So someone did get it lol. If I die, we'll see if it's true.

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Fluffy/Snowball

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Good game, and good luck to all!

VOTE: Lufan

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I totally have a reason, btw.

[lufan131]

It's so I can be sure not to hurt the town any more, by not having them waste any more time pushing my lynch. I was town, but I think I wasn't doing anything that helped other than stalling and having them try to lynch me, and I would regardless, so I feel it was for the best.

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OK
I'd mentioned it before, and I believe that either Rip or hearless is scum, and jingle would be town if both or either flip scum aligned. I feel that you, flames, and elbrin are town. Everyone else is a null

[lufan131]

So I got everyone to wake up and start posting? Woah.
Please catch up!

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So the flavor gives him clones?

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Not happy about this massclaim.

I'm Dr. Xenon Bloom. I have a 1 shot ability to spy on one person and their affairs and learn the name of said person.

Guess it works out though as if I'm not murdered tonight, we can poll who I spy on and figure out if they are lying about their claim today and report a true or false claim (as far as names are concerned).

Popcorn to Flames.

If that's the case, my role's name is mister fluffles. The card mentions an ability to become snowball, so I'm not sure what I would show up as if I used it that night.

[lufan131]

... I don't think I'll ever get that name right, but it's close enough.

[lufan131]

Aristophanes
Jingle: Inventor (neg utility?) (jerry)
Flames682: tracker (scary terry)
Heartless
Elbirn: conditional neighborizer (jessica)
Killerjester: Active Dreamer (1 shot something)
Kthxbye: one-shot name cop (xenon bloom)
lufan131: one shot bp vig (snuffles/snowball)
RIP: miller bodyguard (lincler)
d3x: reflexive self-targeting busdriver (rick)
Rainbowdash: ????? something controlled (meeseeks)
hi im Yakko: weak watcher (leonard)
Mainez: one-shot jk (summer)



Also, lufan, did you realclaim? Cause I took it as a joke when I first read it.

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Yeah, I realclaimed. I'm the dog with a lightbulb hat, and he can be a BP vig on a night of his choice, apparently.

[lufan131]

... So that's not weak then.

VOTE: Hiimyakko

[lufan131]

The mod needs to do have more frequent votecounts

[lufan131]

@Mod: Is plurality in effect?

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I read it, and it wasn't clear, so I wanted to ask. Thank you!

[lufan131]

Who should I target for my only shot?

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Aristophanes- Vanilla-ize Rainbowdash
Jingle- Nothing.
Flames682- Track any player. Any result visiting RBD is scum. Any result contrary to this list is scum.

Heartless- Protect Flames (Or another player if you claim it, but please do so quickly)

Elbirn- Investigate (I'd prefer it to be in the claims you think don't match up, but whoever works, I suppose. The claims that make a ton of sense are bad options.)
Killerjester- Predict one of {Jingle, Aristophanes, Lufan}
Kthxbye- Investigate within {aristophanes, Jingle, Kthx, yakko, mainez, RIP}
lufan131- No action OR Kill Jingle.

RIP- Protect Heartless

d3x- Protect randomly between {Heartless, Kthxbye, Flames} to discourage scumkills there.
Rainbowdash- No action.
Mainez- No action.

I'd like lufan, rbd and mainez to say that they indeed did nothing. I'd also like RBD to say if he got vanilla-ized. In the future, this should happen first.

THEN I'd like d3x to claim his action. Then KJ. Then Kthx. Ideally in the future, Flames claims where kthx does today, and elbirn after that for any phase where they're alive.

Did nothing. That wasn't my kill.

[lufan131]

So don't vote flames yet? kk~

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So just no-action at least one more night? noted.

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Woah. So many fewer to lynch than I thought lol.

[lufan131]

Yes, I will.

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Ok. I'll shoot randomly, then.

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I know I'll use it, but I'm not sure about on who.

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... Will get kthx, due to a majority vote.

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;p how rude. I won't shoot if there's this much drama over it, anyway. I'm fine with no-action.

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;p how rude. I won't shoot if there's this much drama over it, anyway. I'm fine with no-action.

Volume does not equal correct.

Vote kthnx

@d3x - Can you confirm that his "result" is correct even if you used your role?

Oh, really? 'cause the volume is on kthx, and you just said volume is wrong.

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also, as much as RBD is scum, voting anyone other than flames today is anti-town.

@dex: I would like to hear your plan as you are near conf town. If it still includes lufan targetting me tonight to prove he's town, so be it.

Aww (I want to target RBD, since she's a tyrant)

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Why do we need to plan actions?

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Because there is still a pack of Scum here. If the majority of players agree with a plan of action and someone deviates from it, that can be pretty telling. Especially if the Target they were supposed to go after ever flips Scum.

Or the scum could be dictating things in their favor, and no-one would ever know.

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*Wakes up, burps, scratches self*

So, thoughts on me going insane and Morty-copping RainbowDash?

aww... I wanted to vig them, and still do lol.

[lufan131]

Y'know what? I'm shooting whoever I want since everyone's not sticking to anything they tell me.

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@Kthx- What is your case on Pony?

Biggest problem with pony is I was town reading her D1 with their play. Now, all she wants to do is vig/lynch town to the point of ignoring conf-scum!flames. Looking at her claim while now not town-reading her also points to scum, not town. If you really look at it, all it is is a, 'If I'm tracked or watched to a NK, it wasn't my fault guys.' The biggest point though is still her desire to get rid of me.

It's not a fancy case, but it's all I really need from my PoV.

Thank you! WE AGREE!

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lufan needs to claim kill shot
jingle needs to claim if they are now VT
Titus needs to claim their target

In that order.

Please no pony else talk until that happens because I think I see what may have gone down last night. Spent the last couple hours trying to work it out and there is one thing sticking out that I think catches two scum. Maybe more

I shot you.

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I am not a serial killer, I am a one-shot vig.

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@Titus - How are you getting that Jingle is scum? A scum vote thief is basically a free "lets move LYLO up a day secretly" role. You also apparently think that its me, Aristo and Jingle as scum, we all decided to claim roles that would make sense to target each other before the game started and then pushed hard for a D1 massclaim?

Anyways... here are a few of my reads at this point after sleeping on it and what has been happening.

1) Jingle is town. Again, I don't see a vote thief for scum, especially with some weird shenanigans going on.
2) kthnx is scum. Apart from him being scummy just based on play this entire game, his role also sticks out badly. For him to be town it would mean town had four investigative roles at least (motion detector, weak doctor, tracker +/- role cop and morty cop) with two of them being very strong ones.
3) The only way I am alive is if
a) kthnx is scum lying about his role (I actually 100% expect kthxn to flip role cop - just scum role cop)
b) Titus is lying about who she targeted
c) lufan is lying about who she targeted
d) There is something else for scum we don't know about (redirector, blocker, etc)
4) Titus is town if kthnx is town (it would assume scum tried to kill that role)

Just looking at some very bare bones reasons that we have scum kthnx though

1) He lied about his role due to "fear of being NKed" while ignoring the fact that we had a weak doctor and a tracker claim already. It only changed when he was getting votes D2. Note him being scum one shot rolecop could solve some of the "what happened last night" shenanigans.
2) For him to be telling the truth town would need four (at a minimum) investigative role group
3) More WIFOM, but if he was an actual useful role as he claims to be... why did scum either submit a kill through KJ (blocked by Titus) or try to kill Titus?
4) If he was a role cop, isn't a massclaim just about the best possible thing that could happen D1?
5) Assuming I am town for all others... wouldn't it make sense for scum to have a role that is searching for me?
6) He opened the game with a ton of null reads and trying to create a false dilemma between Heatless and Jingle
7) He had no idea who else was voting Jingle with him at one point and had no idea why they were voting him
8) His N1 target
9) His VCA is massively scummy since he is basically just manipulating two forgone lynches to throw dirt on players

Im not moving my vote

Vote kthnx

It's HE...

[lufan131]

VOTE: No lynch

[lufan131]

VOTE: RBD

Since you didn't die last time, perhaps voting you might work.

[lufan131]

Lufan, we can possibly verify RBD's alignment by eliminating Ari

Ok. That seems much easier anyway.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Ari

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@MOD: V/LA until the 25th