Signs and Void (Game Over) [TM2015]

Cheetory6 · Post Post #4125 (ISO) » Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:54 pm

Singer I'm fighting you now.
Why didn't you vote for Espe?

singersigner · Post Post #4126 (ISO) » Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:57 pm

I felt like he and CDB were copout wagons to Titus and AD. That's how I would answer if I had to make up an answer. Otherwise, I really didn't feel like it at the time and then I was trying to hold out to see if there was anyone else willing to vote (I was literally hiding from Gamma and Reck in the kitchen) and there apparently wasn't.

singersigner · Post Post #4127 (ISO) » Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:58 pm

Of note, pending the validity of CDB's claim, scum clearly weren't afraid of it.

singersigner · Post Post #4128 (ISO) » Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:58 pm

Also, does this mean you'll fight me on getting a Titus lynch? Because we were so close yesterday...

ActionDan · Post Post #4129 (ISO) » Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:59 pm

In post 4123, Cheetory6 wrote:You think that him not being lynched makes him more likely to be scum?

Yes. It'd be very easy for scum sitting in the wings not to participate at the very end in ensuring his lynch. Speaking of which, I'd like to know why Mastin didn't vote him when he was here.

@Singer: combined with ^, after his CDB vote he didn't show up again.

Cheetory6 · Post Post #4130 (ISO) » Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:01 pm

I kind of think the opposite.
I think scum would be likely to sit back and let no lynch happen on a VT who they can push a mislynch on later.
I also have selfish reasons for thinking Espe is town.

hitogoroshi · Post Post #4131 (ISO) » Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:02 pm

VC 99 (Minor Day 2, VC 1)

Bane:

Target player may not submit actions this Major Night.

(2)

TellTaleHeart:

Cheetory6, singersigner [L-7]
(1)

Espeonage:

ActionDan

(14)

No Bane Vote:

Aronis, Bulbazak, ChannelDelibird, Deasvail, Espeonage, Gammagooey, Formerfish, mastin2, Oversoul, Shadoweh,TellTaleHeart, Titus, Untrod Tripod, vezokpiraka

(ActionDan, Cheetory6, singersigner)

Choice:

Should we remove the

Lock

, which will enable one currently vanilla

Creation

aligned power role, but also enable the

Annihilation

ability

Duplicate

?

(4)

Lock:

Aronis, ActionDan, Cheetory6, singersigner [L-5]

(13)

No Choice Vote:

Bulbazak, ChannelDelibird, Deasvail, Espeonage, Gammagooey, Formerfish, mastin2, Oversoul, Shadoweh, TellTaleHeart, Titus, Untrod Tripod, vezokpiraka

(Aronis, ActionDan, singersigner)

With 17 players alive it's 9 to Bane or Choose. Minor Day One ends on Monday, May 4th at 8:00 PM CST.

Minor Day One Deadline(expired on 2015-05-04 20:00:00)

singersigner · Post Post #4132 (ISO) » Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:06 pm

I said he should be the lynch from the moment I replaced in, and since then many things have transpired, and I no longer think this is the case. Do you think I have plans to push a mislynch on him now?

What do you make of AD's immediate vote to bane Esp with that theory?

ActionDan · Post Post #4133 (ISO) » Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:08 pm

That's a perspective I can understand, but I think it's one scum are less likely to take when could have the town dead without looking like deadbeats in the process.

Bulbazak · Post Post #4134 (ISO) » Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:08 pm

In post 4119, Cheetory6 wrote:Because she's supposed to be conftown now and I want to know why.

If TTH is confirmed town, then it will happen before the end of the Minor Day, in one form or another. If it doesn't happen, then we lynch her. If she is confirmed town, then you don't want to bane her anyway. Either way, baning TTH is the worst possible decision.

Given what I just read in GiF's ISO, a bane on Esp, Aronis, or AD would be best. If we're choosing to lock, then Esp is probably the preferable bane choice anyway.

singersigner · Post Post #4135 (ISO) » Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:13 pm

Why would the choice make a difference of who to bane?

Why would TTH's confirmed towniness happen before the end of the Minor Day?

Cheetory6 · Post Post #4136 (ISO) » Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:13 pm

@Singer, not sure if you're asking me, but I think AD's reasoning makes sense.

Bulba wrote:If TTH is confirmed town, then it will happen before the end of the Minor Day, in one form or another. If it doesn't happen, then we lynch her. If she is confirmed town, then you don't want to bane her anyway. Either way, baning TTH is the worst possible decision.

I thought it was insinuated she would be able to prove herself as soon as the minor day started :c
This makes a lot of sense though. Sorry i dont think before i do things i just do em.

Unbane

Espe might be the most logical choice, but I also kind of feel like I want to bane a scumread vs someone safe.
Lemme use braincells and think for a bit about this.
FormerFish needs to start posting.

Bulbazak · Post Post #4137 (ISO) » Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:16 pm

In post 4135, singersigner wrote:Why would the choice make a difference of who to bane?

Because if we choose locked, then any VTs will likely be VTs forever. This makes Esp a safe bane, as if he's town, nothing happens, and if he's scum, he can't use night actions. If we choose to unlock, then a random VT becomes a PR, and that makes baning Esp a little more risky.

In post 4135, singersigner wrote:
Why would TTH's confirmed towniness happen before the end of the Minor Day?

Because she'll either be confirmed by the mod or another player. Either way, it's most likely to happen before the end of the minor day. Unless you're planning on ending the day before everyone chimes in...

Titus · Post Post #4138 (ISO) » Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:17 pm

I don't see why lock versus open is debated. I don't want to see more unmakes. Lock should stay.

Bane:Singer

This should be the bane unless TTH is full of shit.

Bulbazak · Post Post #4139 (ISO) » Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:22 pm

You're right. I missed what Duplicate did when I was skimming back over the opening posts (I actually missed it entirely.).

Vote Lock

@Titus: I'd prefer to not bane Singer. I agree with CDB that banes need to be on those that we don't prefer to lynch the next major day. That's why I think Esp is preferable. It'd also allow us more time to sort him.

Bane Espeonage

singersigner · Post Post #4140 (ISO) » Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:24 pm

Oh look! Scum wants to know how to kill me!

@Bulb...that makes sense. I like that thought process a lot actually.

@Cheetory...I assumed it would be at the start of day, too, but I had no problem pressuring her in the meantime. You're making this difficult.

unbane
bane: ActionDan

singersigner · Post Post #4141 (ISO) » Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:25 pm

In post 4139, Bulbazak wrote:@Titus: I'd prefer to not bane Singer. I agree with CDB that banes need to be on those that we don't prefer to lynch the next major day. That's why I think Esp is preferable. It'd also allow us more time to sort him.

And you wonder why I think she's full of shit when she says she thinks I'm scum.

(no I know you didn't actually wonder that...)

Cheetory6 · Post Post #4142 (ISO) » Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:28 pm

Bulba wrote:I missed what Duplicate did when I was skimming back over the opening posts

*twitch*
bulbapls.

@singer, what? Why AD?

singer wrote:@Cheetory...I assumed it would be at the start of day, too, but I had no problem pressuring her in the meantime. You're making this difficult.

Not sure what you're referring to here. o.o

singer wrote:And you wonder why I think she's full of shit when she says she thinks I'm scum.

Hehh. I'd prefer for you not to posture like this. :/

Titus · Post Post #4143 (ISO) » Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:28 pm

Vote:Lock

Bulba, indeed. Ffery has asked us not to lynch Singer. Baning her gives her a day to recalibrate and Ffery doesn't roll over in her grave. If Singer is town, I would like her to reset. If Singer is town, with her reads, she'd likely hurt more than help.

Cheetory6 · Post Post #4144 (ISO) » Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:30 pm

I think I like the idea of being quick with this minor day.

Bane: Espeonage

P-Edit: Titus :/
Have you read what the bane does?

Cheetory6 · Post Post #4145 (ISO) » Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:32 pm

Titus wrote:Baning her gives her a day to recalibrate and Ffery doesn't roll over in her grave. If Singer is town, I would like her to reset. If Singer is town, with her reads, she'd likely hurt more than help.

How is any of this solved by baneing her?

Bulbazak · Post Post #4146 (ISO) » Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:33 pm

In post 4140, singersigner wrote:Oh look! Scum wants to know how to kill me!

I doubt that taking away your night actions would kill you.

In post 4142, Cheetory6 wrote:
Bulba wrote:I missed what Duplicate did when I was skimming back over the opening posts
*twitch*
bulbapls.

It was a very quick skim.

In post 4143, Titus wrote:
Bulba, indeed. Ffery has asked us not to lynch Singer. Baning her gives her a day to recalibrate and Ffery doesn't roll over in her grave. If Singer is town, I would like her to reset. If Singer is town, with her reads, she'd likely hurt more than help.

Singer is my strongest scum read, and I don't care what Ffery thinks in this regard. She's wrong, and I'm not going to play patty cake with scum in the meanwhile.

Bulbazak · Post Post #4147 (ISO) » Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:34 pm

@Cheetory: While I do like the idea of being quick, I'd also like to avoid baning someone before everyone checks in. Something might be said that could make us change our minds.

vezokpiraka · Post Post #4148 (ISO) » Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:35 pm

bane espe
Choose lock

I don't have anything to comment on.

Aronis · Post Post #4149 (ISO) » Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:35 pm

In post 4143, Titus wrote:
Vote:Lock

Bulba, indeed. Ffery has asked us not to lynch Singer. Baning her gives her a day to recalibrate and Ffery doesn't roll over in her grave. If Singer is town, I would like her to reset. If Singer is town, with her reads, she'd likely hurt more than help.

669 posts and you haven't even started playing the game.