NY 184: a help (done)

[Titus]

Titus, if I supported VCA I'd instalynch you.

You're doing it wrong then because when we were both wagoned (well me as Bulge) both flipped scum were on the sidelines. Big flag both current wagons were on town. See Anen's gamestate theory.

[RadiantCowbells]

Matt's been on a lot of town led wagons, that's a fact.

But he also immediately jumped on OS when OS got into the whole meta shebang about the previous game (that has thankfully ended), which is the kind of thing scum wanting to lay low do; they jump on someone for reasonable reasons but that don't indicate scum and aren't expected to go anywhere.

He also didn't vote for either scum flip.

There was also the "regardless of alignment" post in D1 where he was trying to set up to vote for me as policy even though he had me as a townread.

[RadiantCowbells]

*le sigh*

Again, this is regardless of alignment. Scum, town, whatever. We're all peeps trying to have a good time.

^ This is regardless of either of our alignment. I'm talking about spirit of the game in general.

Why else bring up his alignment repeatedly?

Very pre-emptively defensive.

[Titus]

Regardless of is an indication of abstract thinking, not alignment unless said player is not usually an abstract thinker.

OS is Boonskiies and therefore possibly scum so I am not looking at the OS vote as bad. Boon voting EPM is such a transparent bus though. He has been in the middle of wagons since joining.

[BROseidon]

I like how we're talking about VCA with no data in the thread.

[Titus]

.... You need the colored posts to do that? I will do that today.

I did color a few earlier.

[vonflare]

.... You need the colored posts to do that? I will do that today.

I did color a few earlier.

Let me do mine first please. I'll do them within 24 hours.

[Titus]

No problem. If you want to spoiler VCAs and color them, I have done so in many other games. For speed

Step.1, I SO mod.
Step 2, Quote posts with VCs.
Step 3, Delete all color tags with find replace.
Step 4, Replace all replacements.
Step 5, Replace all flips with revealed alignment. Post.

[Titus]

Optional Step 6, Spoiler tag.

[MattP]

I kept mentioning alignment because my point is, it doesnt matter what alignment anyone is. What alignment I am, you are, or player X is. Your behavior this game has been toxic and against the spirit of having fun, and it doesn't matter what your read is on a player, it's no excuse to curse at people. Or self vote and cuss people out when for a moment you're being pressured as if that is with the spirit of the game. Or constantly say how everyone playing is bad at playing and insult people after theyre out as if that's a cool/respectful move (which you did to Grimm, like wth)

Enjoy your high horse, RC, don't be surprised when you start being WotC'd because of your bad attitude.

[MattP]

And that's the end of this discussion from me. Clearly it's not going to click.

[MattP]

And I kept saying "regardless of alignment" because you kept justifying your rudeness based on what you perceived other people's alignment to be (You were saying Jake and EPM were scum and noone could see it when I said to stop being rude). So I was saying that it doesn't matter who is scum, it doesn't justify your behavior. I didn't just randomly bring up alignment. You brought up alignment.

[MattP]

Yeah that's all well and good, then we get to endgame and oh look Jake and EPM were scum, just like RC said D1.

Then I'll get into another game with you all and it'll be "oh hey RC was a good scumhunter last game."

Then it's "Hey I'm pretty sure X guy is scum because of Y Z."

And still I'll get nothing done with it.

This has nothing to do with that. This has to do with us all being here because we want to have a good time. Please keep it friendly to some degree.

Again, this is regardless of alignment. Scum, town, whatever.

We're all peeps trying to have a good time.

[RadiantCowbells]

My behaviour was out of line and I don't grudge you for calling it out.

You're still scum though.

[MattP]

I don't care what your read is on me. Ty for admitting that.

[Titus]

RC, what would it take for you to vote Boonskiies here? MattP ain't scum.

[Elyse]

Forgot Elyse there but she might be there solely due to ineptitude.

Ok Titus ok.

VOTE: Boonskiies

Meh.

[MattP]

Btw I said when signing up for this game, I am severely V/LA from July 1 to 17 due to being on vacation internationally. I will try my best to post as much as possible during that time but I don't know yet what my Internet situation will be

[Elyse]

Ok hopefully I can lynch you then

[MattP]

Gasp

[RadiantCowbells]

Forgot Elyse there but she might be there solely due to ineptitude.

Ok Titus ok.

VOTE: Boonskiies

Meh.

Ok hopefully I can lynch you then

Something incongruous here.

[MattP]

Yeah I was gonna say shes doing a great job so far with making my lynch happen

[RadiantCowbells]

But she is, after all, the one inno'd by Broseidon, not MattP...

Right?

[MattP]

Something to keep in mind as the game progresses

EPM probably would not have self hammered if the remaining scum was obvscum and clearly an upcoming lynch. Scum self hammer when they think it will help their team. If scum was doomed then EPM would have fought to sway people towards another lynch

It's likely the remaining scum has been playing a strong game

[RadiantCowbells]

Someone like... you?