MINI 1688 — BEES!!! — game over
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ok but im not reading 30 pages. i should study math instead.
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ok so i replaced glork who made a super obvtown post before replacing out!
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so is my slot like obvtown or what? nobody's voting me, so thats cool
cant vote tammy
lets vote this guy
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jesus christ there are a ton of words
i need
to study
math
but
i dont want to
ughhhhhhhhhhh
i will read from day 2 onwards. ignoring day 1/-
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OK~!
first things first
tammy. i think you pissed glork into replacing out. lol. hypertunnelly.
next, bulge is scummy as fuck. he was posting in other games, so he's specifically ignoring this one. /actually/ this game is full of walls so I can maybe understand his specifically ignoring this one. but hmm.
tammy instead of having high post frequency, now has high post volume. or both. wow. normally I see you have lots of posts, but now I see you have lots of words. okay.
lala is not scumhunting here. I don't like a whiff of it. in our past games she would catch scum on the fore and crush them. i'm not seeing that at all. color that my top suspect
RC... i don't have meta on this guy, all my games with him are ongoing. i will count him null until i can interact with him
i have no idea why SK went 'ugh' will you stop being condescending
whoever that bob dude is town as fuck. whoever replaced him, raise your hand. you are getting a free pass
everyone else not mentioned is probably generically town and didnt catch my eye-
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actually at this moment im entering a period of low activity. aparently this is a fast game thing, so i can focus on this more, but gah. i am going to be lame here and ask that i have some room to breathe because i won't be able to put so much time into this as i would 100%. good thing im obvtown (except tammy bombardment which I hope should be settled), so that is going to make me relax and snipe bees better
@Tammy if you have any issues w/ my slot or want to ask me any questions please ask me.
@everyone if you have any issues w/ my slot or want to ask me any questions please ask me.
ok guys letsKILL SOME BEES
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yeah i just took a look at lala's ISO and I am NOT happy with her play.
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what the serious fuck is your problem
whatever. bye-
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i dont even have any problem with you
its one of those unrequited lovers thing, huh?
i can deal with it.
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In post 833, Green Crayons wrote:This hasnotbeen a trainwreck. You take that back.
@Sonic:Glork saw ducks as a poor performing town player. Y/N/M?
idk i didnt read a thing he wrote-
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ducks is a splendid town player
she is underperforming
that is scummy
>oh loook at me assign high standards to people now<-
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In post 837, lalaladucks wrote:Metal you're being ridic
"our past games"
nuh uh
no
you haven't directly played with me as MS before so mmmm.
pedit: thanks but no I'm not a splendid town player
really
am not, ask everyone
b>.>b
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
i just love ducks too much QUACK-
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UNVOTE: ducks
VOTE: bulge
This will also be counted as a vote for Not_Mafia, as added by me below for higher visibility:
VOTE: Not_MafiaLast edited by Marquis on Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:54 am, edited 1 time in total.-
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In post 840, lalaladucks wrote:mate
you can keep your vote on me, just give some proper reasons instead of making nonsense up okay
watching your games was a vicarious experience! it almost felt as if I was in the game watching you be a hero duck!-
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hey my love
lol i was about to pm you to join me and replace this game as hydra, then realised its a normal -____-
and it turns out you're in it before me. so yay!
tbh i looked at the playerlist before i joined. and its sexy. so i /inned when marquis sent the advertisement.
tell me about frogger
okay i'll look at kayp. after im done with math. my least favorite subject-
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glork is like frog's brother right?
if that is the case then i'd trust his read over anything else. i mean. yeah. unless, like, frog can fool his bro. i will need to check if this caveat has ever been mentioned
thanks for highlighting this.
i'll look at kayp... later.-
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i also have a bit of experience with frog. in fact im hydraing with him. so i can do that part too
i'll also take a look at you when i shall.
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In post 854, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:You know you can't pass this by ME, right?
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In post 857, Metal Sonic wrote:frog can fool his bro.
i just thought about this
glork is known to be legendary (don't know him, though)
frogger... is new to forum mafia
yeah, no.
if glork says frog is town, im treating him like a mason buddy. i want to see how strong glork's read on frog was.
later-
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In post 860, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:In post 857, Metal Sonic wrote:glork is like frog's brother right?
if that is the case then i'd trust his read over anything else. i mean. yeah. unless, like, frog can fool his bro. i will need to check if this caveat has ever been mentioned
thanks for highlighting this.
i'll look at kayp... later.
yeah this is pretty much the only reason i'm not voting him right now. when i first replaced in yesterday afternoon, i wanted to sheep tammy onto glork but after talking with him, i felt less inclined to do so. my read on your slot is definitely stronger than my read on tammy but i do feel good about her. the thing is that they seem to have a lot of meta/familiarity with each other, so maybe one is right and one is scum? or maybe they know each other so well they are misreading each other? i dont know which is more likely. i really should re-read their interaction, it was just so many words and a lot of it was regarding circumstances i'm not yet familiar with (i have not read the game page to page - just ISOs).
lol
i tried to do the right thing by going to day 2 and reading towards current
what happened was just me scrolling my mouse wheel real quick-
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i am townreading tammy.
i am notreading her walls.
i think it is just what i did in twin trap to quilford. poor guy. we are best buds now.
okay gal talk to you later~ any more stuff just highlight to me-
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In post 870, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:In post 864, Metal Sonic wrote:okay gal talk to you later~ any more stuff just highlight to me
come back soon. i think we can both sort things/catch up a lot faster bouncing ideas off each other.
im back. you still there?
i read kayp's iso. what the fuck did you make me read. it was so long
and so town. all the stances are clear. this guy is new, right? i would think that newbscum would be less assed and more 'scummy'.
what you said about his posts being irrelevant or not useful... is not true? i saw that he posted a huge readlist, and its pretty OK. seems like he's been on this guy called Shaddox the whole game... who became RC. whom you have issues with.
i really think it would help me out if you pointed me to the parts that you find scummy, i'm not seeing it; i'm seeing a pretty strong town honestly. maybe its cause I was just skimming his ISO at 1.25x speed but yeah nothing flagged as much as you made me believe.-
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Hi frogger!
In post 872, Fro99er wrote:You went after Glork because he was the tougher player to get rid of, so it would be good for scum!Tammy to get rid of the tough players and leave the "weaker" players (read: me).
why can't scum!Tammy NK glork instead?-
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In post 872, Fro99er wrote:Read Bella's ISO...she kept voting then not following up on her reads, and all she wanted to do was fit in.
okay, I see this. Bella's ISO is NOT good.
what I DO know, is that she has a history of having not good ISOs as town.
frogger can you compare this game with what you saw in Ori of her?-
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In post 878, Fro99er wrote:In post 875, Metal Sonic wrote:Hi frogger!
In post 872, Fro99er wrote:You went after Glork because he was the tougher player to get rid of, so it would be good for scum!Tammy to get rid of the tough players and leave the "weaker" players (read: me).
why can't scum!Tammy NK glork instead?
I guess so. I don't see in her walls if she ever said that though. Wouldn't that be a point she'd want to get acorss right away?
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In post 872, Fro99er wrote:If so what do you think of RC's case on UT (now ETL) in 654?
I think RC's case on UT is pretty solid. In fact, it is pretty good, yeah.
but I can read ETL (or at least i think I can, she might change her tactics after I caught her as scum twice)
I want to interact with both RC and ETL.
I don't want either of them to be on the table today, i don't think. not within 72 hours, no.-
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In post 880, Fro99er wrote:Why wouldn't Tammy just point out that she could NK Glork?
Why would she?-
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you have to understand that I have no idea of the context of whatever is happening here. so you're going to have to spell out stuff for me. since i'm the 'outsider'-
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In post 886, Green Crayons wrote:In post 880, Fro99er wrote:Why wouldn't Tammy just point out that she could NK Glork? She never pointed it out once in all her walls, and that's the first thing you thought of.
Sonic asked why Tammy-scum would feel the need to attack Glork-town when she could just NK him.
Why would Tammy-scum say "OH NVM GLORK I'm just going to kill you tonight because I'm scum!", which is what your post here is saying she would have done.
thanks, mr translator c:
holy crap, you joined in 2012. WOW-
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In post 889, Fro99er wrote:If she pointed out she could just night kill Glork, that would be an almost insta-town tell because scum!Tammy would have no reason to point out who she would night kill.
This doesn't make sense at all?
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In post 896, Fro99er wrote:In post 894, Green Crayons wrote:In post 889, Fro99er wrote:Pedit: GC I think we're in agreement. Had Tammy just said that, it would be an insta town tell. So why didn't she just say that
I don't understand? Why would Tammyeversay "I'm going to NK you tonight"?
That's claiming scum.
Ok, let's step back for a second.
Town tammy would say "if I were scum!Tammy, I would just NK Glork instead of push for his mislynch. The fact that I'm pushing for a Glork lynch instead of just waiting on a NK would make me town"
had she said that, I would have realized she's NOT scum.
interesting.
it probably isn't that easy, but thanks for clarifying-
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In post 899, Green Crayons wrote:Alright, I don't think I agree that Tammy's saying or not saying that principle speaks to her alignment.
I do think that having people think that sentiment - why go after the hard target when she could just NK him? - is I guess a valid reason why Tammy-scum would have gone after Glork-scum. Kinda undercut by the fact that Tammy isn't the one pushing that justification (so I guess I do think it would be more suspicious if she actually said that).
Also, the entire question - why would Tammy-scum go after a hard target? - is based on the notion that Glork-town is a "hard" target to mislynch, which he didn't seem to think to be the case.
oh, there are a lot of scum motivations for going after a hard target.
if your "target" is not "mislynched", then you can continue tunnelling that person all game and not need to scumhunt.
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of course, this can come from town too. the best way is to figure out the player's motivation and towniness by other means.-
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In post 901, Green Crayons wrote:Ultimately, I think the question "why would Tammy-scum push Glork-town" as a basis to townread Tammy is flawed and based on way too many assumptions.
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WOW 2002 join date
a number of players on this site would still be in elementary school that year!-
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i didn't read into him that much.
ok I just skimmed his ISO a bit. i would say not sure/null. I want to interact with him to read better.-
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In post 907, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:but conversely it's kind of a weird argument because if she was actually scum, then yes why would she waste her time trying to lynch him when there were several easier options, my slot included?
scum motivation for tunnelling = not having to scumhunt.
standard by-the book.
what youyouthink of tammy? you've been giving hedgey answers up till now actually-
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In post 910, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Liar liar pants on fire. I put her in my town list before you ever acknowledged that I existed in this game. Go look. I think she's town.
DEEEEERP
whoops, I remember that now. I did remember you keeeeep mentioning about "faery faery i need to check faery" which was what gave me that idea.
sorry!
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In post 911, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:In post 910, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Do you think Tammy would do that? The game I played with her as Orion she was more... agreeable, which I town read. She was scum there.
this is the main reason why tbh. lemme get you deh link.
oh ya i also played 1 game vs tammy scum but she was in hydra with mollie. her team was OP. but she got vigged, i should check it too.
i too was fooled-
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yeah i got suckered by mollie. tammy did post walls too but yeah they were agreeable
BUT! i haven't seen tammy do this either in her towngames. and I have seen more towngames than scumgames!
either that or im a big fat liar and remembered wrong too-
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GC is lookingprettygood from the last page-
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In post 922, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:yeah except it was MS making the argument, to which you said it was inappropriate because it requires one to make assumptions about Glork/MS slot, which is not necessary for MS, since it's his damn slot.
i think he was responding to frogger?-
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btw i am lazy to explain my townread on GC, i am going to call it 'gut'
hope someone can translate-
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In post 925, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Ok, so I didn't really like him asking me to "address" RC's case on UT. It felt like a busy-noise request that he could use for fuel. It's a faulty request, as I'm sure you understand, since I'm not UT. Then trying to pick apart your logic to make you drop your townread on Tammy is sketch as fuck. Read what I just said about it.
i see.
have you interacted with RC yet?-
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oh? you are scumreading Tammy?-
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ok
@ETL i disagree with your GC scumread but I will let you push because I think it is a beneficial action.
@ GC I see. Can you remind me why your vote is no longer on Tammy? What made you unvote?
24 + 5 hours left. so we will have to consolidate real quick. preferably within 12 hours. no lynch is unacceptable. just a public service announcement-
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ok guys. its almost 3 am here.
i will revise tomorrow with the newer pages and input. thanks for the chat ETL and GC (and frogger)-
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checkpoint.
i see ETL's callout on GC. GC is not on the table for today.
18 hours. I will be here a few hours before deadline.-
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your play here is scummier than grey flag
and that game wasn't even a good example of your play
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In post 1089, SleepyKrew wrote:What's been scummy about my play?
the fact that you haven't done anything towny yet
like, gen 2 and grey flag, I could find reasons to town read you. And I was scum there both games.
fact remains that you are half assing this one too
I am talking to you nicely because I am deciding whether to stay on NM... or not.
also because you are a cool title fairy ^_^-
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Who do you not want to play with replaced in?-
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There's a counterwagon on NM that I am on. So there won't be a no lynch.-
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I can analyze ducks' poems through its use of diction, language, and most importantly, structure-
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what the fuck.
I haven't eaten dinner yet but I'll make sense of this later-
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