In post 729, Performer wrote:Hey Bellaphant!
Also, hey Mario, and PantherPunt LOL. It's a small world after all. I have my eye on you, PantherPunt.
In post 751, Alchemist21 wrote:I also disagree with your statement that we had posted next to nothing, as TTH and myself had posted quite a bit by the time you came in.
@Alch-In post 163, Alchemist21 wrote:In post 150, PantherPunt wrote:@Alch. you don't. You read the thread while you are logged in. And you ISO people who are pinging for you. No chance i could have hoped to read all 15,000 posts that went up in the 7 day span of the game
@Alch - what do you think of TTH? What do you think of her assumption that I'm reading you, Varian, and her as scummy because she thinks it's likely that I had SE/IC scum in my newbie game?
I think TTH is Town for their posts regarding Bella.I don't really know about the IC/SE thing, I just know a lot of newbie players tend to tunnel the ICs out of paranoia, so I guess if your IC or SE's were scum in that gameyou might confuse a more experienced style as scummy.
In post 773, Alchemist21 wrote:Town:
Fire
Shiro
Panther
Luna
Vedith
Max
Diego
Scum:
Bella
Sparrow
Lizard
Null:
Ika
Performer
In post 771, Diego1487 wrote:Hey. I wouldn't be opposed to a tl;dr from a kind soul. I'll start reading as soon as I can.
In post 772, Diego1487 wrote:Oh, and UNVOTE:
I have no clue what's going on yet, I can't risk a hammer yet.
In post 780, PantherPunt wrote:(@Shiro - desperately holding onto that SilverJaws wagon, huh?)
In post 783, Firebringer wrote:Its likely one of these wagons is scum, if not both.
We should lynch the other if one flips town.
In post 769, Shiro wrote:Performer to my understanding Sparrow and Mario are the same person. Alt to main..
Btw you can join my town reads. I forgot who you replaced and I am on phone so cba to search..... wait no remembered A flow. But yea you town.
Question though I am pretty sure I haven't given a realist but you didn't ask me for one while you asked the others that haven't given ones. Why?
Btw I think ika hunts scum via making enough townreads to PoE the scum. Which is why he lacks scumhunting
In post 775, PantherPunt wrote:In post 729, Performer wrote:Hey Bellaphant!
Also, hey Mario, and PantherPunt LOL. It's a small world after all. I have my eye on you, PantherPunt.
What makes you want to keep your eye on me?
I'm mad at myself that I'm hung up on you. You want me to think you're someone and I don't think you really are who you want me to think you are.
You nominated me for some kind of award, I saw? Thanks, I guess.
In post 777, MaxwellPuckett wrote:In post 773, Alchemist21 wrote:Town:
Fire
Shiro
Panther
Luna
Vedith
Max
Diego
Scum:
Bella
Sparrow
Lizard
Null:
Ika
Performer
I usually check the playerlists when making lists. Where are silver and TTH? We know your reads on them but its nice to have organized lists, no?
Anyways, welcome to the game, both Diego and Performer. I'll post a readslist in just a bit when I'm not on mobile but for now: I'm still learning town on silver but I'd like to see him continue to post meaningfully if that read will stay. I like performers entrance (replacement of Flow, right?)
Alch's continued defense of TTH doesn't make sense to me at all, still, and its weak to boot.
Panther has come back around to town for me, I think I misread his Luna/Sparrow interactions, especially considering his behaviour now.
Also I like this vote better rn, plus it has support
VOTE: Mario
In post 766, Performer wrote:Can we get a reads list please, from the following:
Alch, Bella, ika
Can I get an updated reads list from the following:
Max, Silv, Pant
Thanks!
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Just finished an ISO, here’s what I have.
Town:
PantherPunt– does plenty of reasonable scumhunting, reads list at 344
Silverjaws/Lizard_Buttock– read Liz as more of a null but Silv really galvanized the ship hull for me, in terms of coming across pro-town at post 521. His 523 is his logical-looking reads list though I disagree with some of it, based on what I saw in ISO of players
MaxwellPuckett– does reasonable scumhunting
Null:
Alchemist21
Vedith– leaned town for him based on his ISO posts. Saw he voted Lizard. After that vote, on 556 he calls out Silv as scum as scum. Maybe a scumhunt move at Silv, to get a reaction test?
Shiro/Varian
Diego1487/TellTaleHeart
Luna Fox/JoramvanVugt– reads list at 389
Suspicious:
Bellaphant– Lacking enough scumhunting
Firebringer– reads list at 367. Lacking enough scumhunting though
Ika– Lacking enough scumhunting
MarioManiac4/Sparrowbird– really don’t like his 304 that seemed to appear from thin air, to vote Bell. I’m mixed about his 361, as he appeared to put in reads on Pant, Luna, Alch; then he lightheartedly adds an L-1, but the way he said it was disturbing, reckless - I don’t feel from that post, like he was careful enough. Reads list at 503. 605 sounds like a frustrated town and/or frustrated new player – not saying I like the tone there one bit though. Posts from his replacement, Mario, so far – aren’t reasonable enough for me to remove my FoS. My first impression of his 701 is scummy behavior
I would have to vote Mario.
VOTE: Mario
In post 789, Performer wrote:What...do you mean by this?
Luna Fox wrote:
He's lining up lynches.
In post 71, TellTaleHeart wrote:My vote stems from Post 33. Complaining about the gamestate when there wasn't anything particularly annoying to complain about feels like an awkward space filler.
"Hmm." indeed. I'm a little interested in why you would think that's scummy given how Bees went (reference).
In post 82, TellTaleHeart wrote:In post 80, Lizard_Buttock wrote:@tth: Define 'Super weird'.
She didn't directly acknowledge what I brought up about Bees! but did indirectly (and vaguely) concede that I tend to "votes [her] within a few rl days of the thread opening." It's a point that doesn't really have any relevance and certainly doesn't reveal anything about why she's scum reading me for my vote. The preceding sentence about Alchemist (also with little relevance to the current discussion) just makes it come off as trying to force a casual tone.
In post 86, TellTaleHeart wrote:In post 63, Alchemist21 wrote:VOTE: JoramvanVught
Unless I get some concrete proof he makes these kinds of commets as Town, I think this is the most likely to turn up scum atm.
Did a little stalking on this and he doesn't have any completed games and I'm working from the assumption that he's a newbie. What, specifically, about Joram is bothersome to you?
In post 793, Alchemist21 wrote:In post 71, TellTaleHeart wrote:My vote stems from Post 33. Complaining about the gamestate when there wasn't anything particularly annoying to complain about feels like an awkward space filler.
"Hmm." indeed. I'm a little interested in why you would think that's scummy given how Bees went (reference).
In post 82, TellTaleHeart wrote:In post 80, Lizard_Buttock wrote:@tth: Define 'Super weird'.
She didn't directly acknowledge what I brought up about Bees! but did indirectly (and vaguely) concede that I tend to "votes [her] within a few rl days of the thread opening." It's a point that doesn't really have any relevance and certainly doesn't reveal anything about why she's scum reading me for my vote. The preceding sentence about Alchemist (also with little relevance to the current discussion) just makes it come off as trying to force a casual tone.
In post 86, TellTaleHeart wrote:In post 63, Alchemist21 wrote:VOTE: JoramvanVught
Unless I get some concrete proof he makes these kinds of commets as Town, I think this is the most likely to turn up scum atm.
Did a little stalking on this and he doesn't have any completed games and I'm working from the assumption that he's a newbie. What, specifically, about Joram is bothersome to you?
These posts from TTH havedirection, confidence, and helped get the game moving. That's about what you'd expect from an experienced player.
In post 793, Alchemist21 wrote:She was on the early Bella wagon, but the specific reasoning was different than what others were saying about Bella at the time, which indicates to me she had legitimate reasons to scumread Bella rather than just joining a bandwagon.
In post 784, Luna Fox wrote:In post 783, Firebringer wrote:Its likely one of these wagons is scum, if not both.
We should lynch the other if one flips town.
Vote: Firebringer
In post 791, MarioManiac4 wrote:In post 766, Performer wrote:Can we get a reads list please, from the following:
Alch, Bella, ika
Can I get an updated reads list from the following:
Max, Silv, Pant
Thanks!
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Just finished an ISO, here’s what I have.
Town:
PantherPunt– does plenty of reasonable scumhunting, reads list at 344
Silverjaws/Lizard_Buttock– read Liz as more of a null but Silv really galvanized the ship hull for me, in terms of coming across pro-town at post 521. His 523 is his logical-looking reads list though I disagree with some of it, based on what I saw in ISO of players
MaxwellPuckett– does reasonable scumhunting
Null:
Alchemist21
Vedith– leaned town for him based on his ISO posts. Saw he voted Lizard. After that vote, on 556 he calls out Silv as scum as scum. Maybe a scumhunt move at Silv, to get a reaction test?
Shiro/Varian
Diego1487/TellTaleHeart
Luna Fox/JoramvanVugt– reads list at 389
Suspicious:
Bellaphant– Lacking enough scumhunting
Firebringer– reads list at 367. Lacking enough scumhunting though
Ika– Lacking enough scumhunting
MarioManiac4/Sparrowbird– really don’t like his 304 that seemed to appear from thin air, to vote Bell. I’m mixed about his 361, as he appeared to put in reads on Pant, Luna, Alch; then he lightheartedly adds an L-1, but the way he said it was disturbing, reckless - I don’t feel from that post, like he was careful enough. Reads list at 503. 605 sounds like a frustrated town and/or frustrated new player – not saying I like the tone there one bit though. Posts from his replacement, Mario, so far – aren’t reasonable enough for me to remove my FoS. My first impression of his 701 is scummy behavior
I would have to vote Mario.
VOTE: Mario
So everyone that was on the verge of voting me it town...
three of your scumreads are "laking enough scumhunting" and literally nothing else...
and you have only three townreads?
Calling bullshit here
In post 796, PantherPunt wrote:In post 793, Alchemist21 wrote:In post 71, TellTaleHeart wrote:My vote stems from Post 33. Complaining about the gamestate when there wasn't anything particularly annoying to complain about feels like an awkward space filler.
"Hmm." indeed. I'm a little interested in why you would think that's scummy given how Bees went (reference).
In post 82, TellTaleHeart wrote:In post 80, Lizard_Buttock wrote:@tth: Define 'Super weird'.
She didn't directly acknowledge what I brought up about Bees! but did indirectly (and vaguely) concede that I tend to "votes [her] within a few rl days of the thread opening." It's a point that doesn't really have any relevance and certainly doesn't reveal anything about why she's scum reading me for my vote. The preceding sentence about Alchemist (also with little relevance to the current discussion) just makes it come off as trying to force a casual tone.
In post 86, TellTaleHeart wrote:In post 63, Alchemist21 wrote:VOTE: JoramvanVught
Unless I get some concrete proof he makes these kinds of commets as Town, I think this is the most likely to turn up scum atm.
Did a little stalking on this and he doesn't have any completed games and I'm working from the assumption that he's a newbie. What, specifically, about Joram is bothersome to you?
These posts from TTH havedirection, confidence, and helped get the game moving. That's about what you'd expect from an experienced player.
1st post - Self meta to show that she naked votes Bella when she is town (I find this scummy, not experienced-player play)
2nd post - Says that the self-meta post that she asked Bella to acknowledge does not have relevance. Says it does not explain why she's scumreading her (despite Bella's post being a semi-retraction of her scumread). This is not a post with direction, confidence, game advancement. It actually looks like quasi-self-contradiction, misrepresentation, and redirection to Bella.
3rd post - A post where she *incorrectly* states that Joram had no completed games. That's oversight at best and blatant misdirection at worst. How does it show direction, confidence, game advancement?
In post 793, Alchemist21 wrote:She was on the early Bella wagon, but the specific reasoning was different than what others were saying about Bella at the time, which indicates to me she had legitimate reasons to scumread Bella rather than just joining a bandwagon.
Her reasons were just as thin if not thinner than anyone else who had early votes on Bella.
Ugh.TTH and Alch are my strongest scum reads.
I smell a SilverJaws ML and a Panther NK coming here. But what can I do other than explain my scumreads as well as I can? I guess I will construct a more thorough case on Alch now...anticipating this will be a short-lived game for me.