Mini 1720 Number Mafia | Endgame snuggles

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VOTE: drk

maths

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3 am just threw up in my mouth a little and took a handful of advil pm

like a large handful?? small handful?

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bbt seems suss tbh

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drk since we like both enjoy cucumbers we should vote for drk together

yes bbt seems suss

pedit: anti whaaat D:

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dunno

(to bbt)

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truthfully i really don't like your overuse of ellipses, bbt

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VOTE: DeathRowKitty

hello

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bbt asking too many questions

seems like a curious scumbumble

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another question omg

i might vote you sometime bubbletea

we shall see

gl anti hope you don't get injured

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Seems apt given his relation to the other players in the game. Decidedly null.

I'm going to disagree and say that it's a scummy entrance and sets the bar pretty low in terms of what we can expect from him in this game.

what's scummy about it

is it because drk poked you

pedit: yeah espe am leaning that way tbh not liking bubbletea as yet

pedit pedit: more questions ew

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another question omg

You're going to see a lot of them...I hope you don't mind?

I'm wondering why your vote hasn't moved onto me? I mean, RVS is over soooooo, you either unvote or you vote me.

oh is rsv over already

most of the people haven't even arrived to join the fun

maybe the stars aren't in the exact right position atm for me to vote you? i mean, i'm a firm believer in astrology

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It's scummy because he is purposefully setting low expectations - which means he won't be contributing much, which means it's harder to catch him if he's scum.

He is by far and away the scummiest player in this game so far and deserves some votes.

DRK poked me?

eeeehhh

could be construed that way

not very hard though

maybe 'moderately firm tap' would better describe it?

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um

maybe 'moderately firm tap' would better describe it?

I don't think he spoke to me at all...

Hmm...

VOTE: DRK

Hrmph

What style are you going to be playing in this game?

are people supposed to talk in a different language to beverages or something

espe i'm not

patience and haitians pls

pedit: that's okay bud not necessary

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damn... well now i have to go wash my underwear

night

goodnight anti sweet dreams don't choke on vomit during sleep and die

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pedit: that's okay bud not necessary

Nah it just generally annoys me

haha mtd i was telling espe it wasn't necessary to call me pretty

pedit: too many freaking pedits people

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Whoops my bad, I was referring to his first post. You know, the post I voted him for.

well that was a lazy post but not scummy in my opinion

townspersons can be bored and not give flying turdnuggets sometimes?

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raise your hand if you're a numberphile

feel the city breakin' and everybody shakin'
and we're stayin' alive, stayin' alive

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ooh

bubbletea can i ask you a question?

have you looked at any of the people's metas in this game? just curious because of your sig ya know

pedit: yay! scummy rhymes with dummy : D

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espe you needn't wk me

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tbh lala might be scum here

aw >:

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dammit, now I have to

UNVOTE: before that becomse a wagon.

wat

espe had two votes? don't think he was really in danger of being lynched

The entrance vote from All Alone seemed awkward, before that gets forgotten (since they voted drk, who at that point had 2 votes already, with noone giving an explanation for them yet and without any comment from them).

yeah they're pretty quiet
didn't reply to my 'hello' either

You're right, I would have. As soon as she didn't vote me when she was expressing suspicion of my slot it started to ping me.

Posturing behind a read/vote like that is scummy - no matter how you look at it.

You're quite clearly misrepping me though as I feel like I gave Ducks plenty of time to put her money where her mouth is and she didn't do it.

PEdit - You think I'm 'heavily overanalysing' but this is how I play. You wouldn't understand that because we've never played together before.

gooosh

i wanted to see drk come back to determine whether to move my vote

are you going to label this as

very suspicious

now?

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Mostly caught up, gonna do a reread. But first:

Claim: VT

Will flirt for reads.

Is that a real vanilla claim? If so, why isn't anyone talking about it? Isn't claiming for no reason terrible?

Or is it not a real claim and I'm missing something?

i had dismissed it as a joke

...surely that wasn't an actual claim in post #29

right?

She voted you, you've never voted her, and she's the posturer in this fight? I don't think so.

VOTE: BlueBloodedToffee

You obviously don't understand what's going on. Ducks was clearly posturing before voting me - she threw out that she didn't like my posting to test the waters and see how other people reacted to that. Once she had some support, she voted. I feel like I made my position more than clear on Ducks so I'm not sure how you think I'm posturing.

This is your second bad vote on the run.

what even is 'posturing'? is that a real word..

i clearly had espe's support much before i voted, bubbly. did it seem i had more support at the time i voted than when espe first tried to convince me to vote you? because i don't think the situation you describe is completely accurate regarding the timing.

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also not liking the constituents of bubbletea's wagon very much but ehhh

we'll see what happens when the others arrive

another thing, bbt seems slightly less suss than he did before

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hey guys!! i was asleep because i do that sometimes

will get to the things hold your donkeys

sup anti

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what even is 'posturing'? is that a real word..

i clearly had espe's support much before i voted, bubbly. did it seem i had more support at the time i voted than when espe first tried to convince me to vote you? because i don't think the situation you describe is completely accurate regarding the timing.

Posturing is what I have been describing in my posts.

Right, you did have Esp's support much before you voted - it would have been way too obvious to vote straight away, no? The fact you recognise this tells me it was something you were paying attention to. You couldn't risk voting straight away because then you would have been under fire from people asking why you only voted me once Esp voted. You needed to allow some time to pass by - to make your decision seem legit.

ummmmm
well
i suppose it could be construed that way
although that would be misinterpreting the situation
which i don't expect you'll believe but that's okay!
truthfully i didn't really like espe telling me what to do because it's not like i work for him you know
what's my pay? breadcrumbs?

also not liking the constituents of bubbletea's wagon very much but ehhh

another thing, bbt seems slightly less suss than he did before

You're not liking my wagon? Wanna expand on that?

What does the second sentence mean? What does that tell you?

alright
i'm not liking bubbletea's wagon
no me gusta el wagon de bbt
i mean
espeonage is pretty sketch?? (what the heck that claim oh man)
and all alone first had a single naked vote then changed it to bbt and didn't really comment much on the gamestate! yay lurkerers
then there's me and i'm okay but a bit silly sometimes so idk might not be able to trust lala

vote: lalaladucks

I agree w/ BBT. The timing of her vote is scummy. Why not vote when she makes this post:

bbt seems suss tbh

instead of leaving her vote on a RV? Or @ least explain what she thought was "suss" about bbt?

@lala what didn't you like about BBT?

why not vote? because i 'randomly' voted drk for an actual reason and that is MATHS not MATH and i wanted drk to feel the unbearable weight of that single vote
what didn't i like about him? for starters, the punctuation. way too many ellipses... also didn't get very good townish vibes from him! i mean he only had a post or two at that point so it wasn't very much to go off of but what was there pinged me (in a bad way not like ping-pong)

What do you think about Esp's role in the discussion between myself and Ducks?

Haven't given it much thought earlier but he is asking for a vote from lala and it looks like he's mostly just trying to get a rise out of you.
Esp, what was your initial reason for asking lala to vote BBT?

@lala: What do you not like about the votes on BBT? And what is making him less of a suspect now?

see above
then for the second part, as the delicious tapioca pearl drink elucidates on his thought processes and actually

says

some things in lieu of asking question after question after question after question all the time, i'm starting to see where he's coming from
and it appears to be a less dark and shady place than my gut was warning me about in the beginning
of VT claim trope or something. So I'll take it as a real claim till I hear otherwise.

Yes it's a real claim.
Yes scum would want to look for PRs.
I want to ensure my night phase safety.
I claim vt, scum don't kill me. This gives me a lot of freedom in my day play. Of course if more than one person did this, then we'd be getting in to a bit of weird territory with decent chances of hitting PRs with the kill much more than previously.

I'm just cocky basically.

duuuuuuuuuuuuude what the heck .___.

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hmmm a bit of jj's sentence got left there above the quote from espe oops

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hiya dv!!

uh i'm just not seeing how the vt claim is helpful to town atm? but the claim isn't the only reason i think he's sketch. he's also australian and all of those people are weird!

but espe's place in the 'discussion' as bubbletea says, between him and me, was a little strange imo. espe did appear somewhat overzealous in taking my side although i don't think he had great reason to because i'm pretty suss if i do say so myself tbh. am a bit paranoid about being buddied because scumbumbles always buddy me and it usually works out great for them

should note that MTD also seems a bit sketch atm.. dancing around those votes like a jolly leprechaun and all

pedit: ahaha

pedit pedit: aw poop

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Hey!

But yes, you got the poop part right.

I like your other reasons for voting Espe (even if I don't agree that he's scum for them. My read on him is pretty null atm), though your issue with the claim is confusing to me as it seems pretty clearly to me the kind of thing he'd do as either alignment. And I mean, I don't really expect anything different?

PEdit: It's ok Anti. If lalala is scum then my shoulder won't be the only tear-soaked one.

yeahhh i mean i said he seems sketch which is slightly more to the scummy side than null for me

i'm not actually voting him though

/hugs pillow
/lays on couch
/continues sobbing

;_;
have you tried chocolate anti

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yo dv, what do you think of bubbly past the first page?

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lala: In 151 you respond to questions about BBT and then you put something in about a claim and your next post does say something about a sentence ending up in the wrong place and I'm having a hard time figuring out where it should be. Can you clear that up for me? I thought I found a spot but it doesn't match up with the rest of the paragraph, it looks like you were mixing up 2 thought processes there.

oh yeah i had quoted a thing and removed the other words but some of jarjar's sentence got left in there, will show below (i didn't write the bolded/orange bit that was a remnant from a quote)

Spoiler: oops

~blahblahblahblahblah~

What do you think about Esp's role in the discussion between myself and Ducks?

Haven't given it much thought earlier but he is asking for a vote from lala and it looks like he's mostly just trying to get a rise out of you.
Esp, what was your initial reason for asking lala to vote BBT?

@lala: What do you not like about the votes on BBT? And what is making him less of a suspect now?

see above
then for the second part, as the delicious tapioca pearl drink elucidates on his thought processes and actually

says

some things in lieu of asking question after question after question after question all the time, i'm starting to see where he's coming from
and it appears to be a less dark and shady place than my gut was warning me about in the beginning

of VT claim trope or something. So I'll take it as a real claim till I hear otherwise.

Yes it's a real claim.
Yes scum would want to look for PRs.
I want to ensure my night phase safety.
I claim vt, scum don't kill me. This gives me a lot of freedom in my day play. Of course if more than one person did this, then we'd be getting in to a bit of weird territory with decent chances of hitting PRs with the kill much more than previously.

I'm just cocky basically.

duuuuuuuuuuuuude what the heck .___.

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okay so

from the last few pages anti is looking more townish. i was starting to get a bit ehhh about him because of all the lack of game related content but then he did some stuff and gave reasons for suspecting mollie which don't look

too

bad imo. the tone of his posts seems genuine to me.

also is mollie ever going to explain her suspicion of me? others have already asked but she hasn't really expounded upon the read as yet.

drk what are you doin. do you still think i'm scumsies? if so, why?

i'm not sure about all alone, probably will make my mind up about them with a couple more posts from them.

dv is a slight townlean at the moment cos i think he seems different to the horsies game in which he was scum?? it's meta so kinda bleh but will have a look at him later and see what else is contributing to that read.

recently mtd seems to be flying under the radar a bit. zoooooooooooooom wheeeeeeeeeeeee! makes me a bit wary of him.

sorry about your dog bella ;_;

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VOTE: lala

hello

why?

@antihero, what do u think of DRK?

and same question for everyone. Check my ISO for reasoning.

i have a nullread on drk! too much mathematics not enough mafia from drk imo

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rofl bubbletea never actually voted me?? actually didn't even realise, niiiiiice.

so. have actually decided bbt doesn't look that bad. whereas mollie is just getting more and more susp

jarjar, i need more content from drk to get a proper read. drk made a whole post about maths! could be a distracting scum tactic though, now that i think about it. hmmm would drk use maths for evil?

i have a nullread on drk! too much mathematics not enough mafia from drk imo

What about my reasoning didn't you like? Do you think calling someone misguided doesn't necessarily mean she has a townread on them? Or do you think you she really was townreading MTD and Bella?

And why do you think she said Espeonage makes a good compromise lynch if she told everyone the VT claim was to be taken as a joke?

hm. well, i do think the word 'misguided' does have similar connotations to what you've been detailing in your posts - so it probably does insinuate that the person being described as 'misguided' is being townread by the describer. but... it doesn't seem alignment-indicative to me? someone else said before that your reasoning for drk!scum is based on drk's inconsistencies but they aren't necessarily scummy inconsistencies.

uhh why did drk say espe would be a good compromise lynch? someone else already answered that also, i think. because espe has come out as a plain vanillaboy, if we can't decide on who to lynch we can just show espe the noose since we already [supposedly] know he doesn't have a power role.

A great side effect of a DRK lynch is if he/she is red, it basically confirms Esp, MTD and bella as town

btw don't agree with this

jarjar seems pretty town tbh. is trying to figure out the game and i can see some seemingly genuine frustration from him which seems more likely to come from a townie than a scumbumble!

anti your 'methods' for getting people on your side are scary :/

wanderer your reasoning for voting me is silly!

vote: mollie

mollllllie, why did you never explain why i'd be a good lynch?

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Spoiler: don't click here

AMERICAN HORROR STORY

hehehehehehehehehehehe

did you just google 'scary'?

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his backstory was so sad though >:

and meep oh man

didn't know what pennywise was until i googled it

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Spoiler: um

ew

ummm

i don't like this

ugh now i don't really think mollie is that likely to be a scumbumble

gonna think about things but idk whether to move my vote or unvote or ehhhhhhhhh

well i wrote an unvote but then... nah guess i'll keep it there for now

no that's gross

fudge

what is this post even

should i even post this

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

will put in spoiler whatever

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i'm newer than jarjar though?

not asking for a newb pass just noting that

ugh i do not like this at all man

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woah really

interesting

pedit: >: but i just ehhhhh.. not getting a good feeling about it. don't have much play experience with her though, to be fair. but i'm too lazy to look at her past games to determine if this has happened before.

pedit pedit pedit: ahhhh this started off as a response to anti with the jarjar has 10x less posts than me so many pedits

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where did espe go

where did half of the people go

meltinggggg

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fro99er!!! hey :p

are you scumz again?

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am i lynched yet? plz tell me I am lynched. cos I am telling it will be funny. cos I AM TOWN.

omg mollie pls

can you explain any of the things for us?????

i started to get a bad feeling about lynching you but all you have done recently is shout 'i am TOWN' and about how it's going to be

hilarious

when you flip and tell us to pay attention to your reads - but i've examined them and i'm finding them somewhat unclear and not so easy to follow???

lol, well how am I supposed to know that?

r u srs

I would totally lynch Hippy Love btw. 2 garbage posts that say nothing. We gonna just keep letting him lurk/prod dodge?

thought this was a joke

fro99er!!! hey :p

are you scumz again?

Not this time!

Sorry I had to pull that shizzle on you last time. You were the easy mislynch.

Are you an easy mislynch this time?

gah >: i'm not gonna get myself mislynched again because that

shizzle

is boooring

but people always think i'm scummy dude!

and i never actually get to be a scumbumble! (except one time where i was a cereal killer and that was fun but i didn't know minis usually had 3 mafs and so i lost : D dv was a bad horse in that game! mollie also was for a little but then left us)

[btw have only read pg. 17 gonna do the rest now]

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I would totally lynch Hippy Love btw. 2 garbage posts that say nothing. We gonna just keep letting him lurk/prod dodge?

Are you drunk?

Hippy Love is a hydra slip by Pirate Mollie

Also I don't drink. But JarJarSmokesWeed doesn't really roll off the tongue.

how about JarJarHitsTheBongAllDayLong?

my wagon is pure poison I honestly think scum won't touch it until it is a sure thing. that shld tell you how fucking dumb you are being.

You really don't think there's any scum voting for u right now?

I think anti is being stupid, so is dv. froggy isn't giving me a second look he plopped a vote on me and is like "okay! cheers!" so if there is scum on my wagon it wld be him.

do you think there is scum voting for me? cos I gave my wagon analysis, what is yours?

STILL FLIPPING TOWN Y"ALL

this is so frustrating is this actually happening ugh turdnuggets

was the bolded bit supposed to be reads on wanderer and me?

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pg. 19 wtf mollie can u pls not

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pg. 20 this have taken a turn for the worse. don't even know what's happening. everyone seems to have gone nuts? this is great for scum and not so much for the others

Maybe we can all just agree MTD is scum?!?!?!?!

WHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEE

i mean

i think he's suspicious but we don't have much content to go off at this stage

do you think he's lurking?

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I have a weak town read on ia *d but something I'm wondering about...
@ia *d
I've been purposely ignoring anything you say about or directed at me (sorry!) including when you asked me if I still thought you might be scum. Why have you not bugged me about that yet? I thought for sure you'd have been yelling at me about it by now and was hoping to try to read that...

i already asked you though! if ppl ignore what i ask them i usually won't pester them to answer unless i think i really need the answer to help formulate reads or figure out info. guess i just figured you didn't think the question was worth answering so i just left it? was thinking about asking again but like your 'murder everything' cat seems to have croaked (harharharhar) and yeah you know maybe you were mourning it or something so it would be dumb to question your/ppl's reads on me while getting over the loss of the murderous kitty and when no one really explains their reads on me anyway! >:

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Oh btw, I just started watching AHS and finished season 2 today. Can't get that damn song out of my mind so decided to learn the lyrics

asylum!

the whole alien thing was really weird

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:/

sigh

seems a bit dodgy

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VOTE: pirate mollie

yo

you gonna explain any things?

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so. have actually decided bbt doesn't look that bad. whereas mollie is just getting more and more susp

Why have these reads changed?

i find myself agreeing with some of the things you say which is a point in your favour. now that you're contributing things rather than asking heaps of questions (which could've been just to make noise at the beginning) i can see you seem to be legitimately invested in solving the game and it looks pretty townish to me i guess. mollie... well one thing was her ignoring all the queries directed at her. i think that may have been one of the first things which started to nudge my nullread on her to the scummy side a bit. when she first became all self-defeatist and such i felt unease because i know i've acted similarly as town before. but with all the recent happenings, it doesn't really seem she cares for town at all? she's been asked many times to answer things and multiple people have attempted to engage with her but it just doesn't seem to be happening. then the whole "thinking she was lynched" is kinda far-fetched imo. she was only at like L-4 i think? there was a votecount at the top of the previous page anyway, where she only had ~3 votes, then anti's vote on top of that. so yeah. bleh :s seems like it could be a scum tactic and like dv said, i would probably expect her to be acting differently if town.

i'm newer than jarjar though?

not asking for a newb pass just noting that

ugh i do not like this at all man

Oh, really? What are you going to do about it? I mean, you're still sitting on the wagon so how bad can it be?

so i didn't like mollie's wagon at the beginning of all the shenanigans but her latest efforts haven't convinced me she isn't scumz

she hasn't answered the questions directed at her and mostly just shouts 'lynch me lynch me but i'm town lol this is hilarious you guys are so stupid'

sigh

am fine with her lynch

pedit:

Still don't wanna lynch Mollie. I think the vast majority of the time someone freaks out like she did, it's town.

SO a question for the mollie voters: Do you think she was completely faking the whole thing or do you think it was legit frustration about being so easily read by y'all on day 1?

scum can get just as frustrated as town at being caught out early. like i said, i had initially thought it was more likely to come from town as well. however she hasn't done anything

actually towny

since then. much appeal to emotion, little explanation, asking to be lynched, ridiculousness you know..

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and if she's town well there is probably scum on her wagon and we can investigate which constituents seem most dodgy on the next day

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also

VOTE: pirate mollie

you are suspicious af

wasn't too sure before but i find myself now considering what bubbletea and drk have laid out against you and yeah. suspicious.

and ploti, thanks for keeping up with the flavour!! interesting stuff

pedit: frogs

pedit pedit: jars

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Also - this reminds me of town ducky from

BEES!!!

THAT GAME WAS A YELLOW AND BLACK STRIPED BUZZING AND SINKING TITANIC FOR TOWN

you were a good scumbumble bee though, tbh

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bubbly why'd you vote me?

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hrmmm



bubbletea i think you are scum and like scum usually do, you are capitalising on my inherent scumminess and tying to get me mislynched!

pedit: yay nice hehe

tbh all alone also seems suspicious though?

so not really sure what i wanna do!

i think sleep

goodnight

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Are you serious...you understand that if I was scum a role block would not stop me from performing a kill...right?

....

uh....

no.

not right.

haha

suspicious

bubbletea >_>

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Your defence of Mollie was, what's that word...ah yeah, scummy.

Defense of Mollie?

Wasn't she the first vote on the Mollie wagon?

i wasn't the first one who voted her but because anti (and maybe or maybe not someone else?) unvoted then voted later so i was in the first position on the wagon at the time of the lynch

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all alone also seems suspicious though?

(undeveloped thought: i happen to know all alone is a trap scum read and needs to be approached w/ caution)

hmmmm
i'm interested

Anti, what do you mean by 'trap scum read'?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=62917
his sparse explanation has gotten him in trouble before. if you don't read the game, just know that nacho tunneled him into the ground for the p much the same reasons ppl are suspecting him here.

not that it matters since the claim is super town

ah. yeah alright i see what you mean
now that i've thought about it and read the latest posts it does make sense for the claim to come from town rather than scum. if all alone was scum this would be a short-sighted plan because if we lynched bubbly and he flipped town, suspicion would immediately be placed on all alone

So, wanna vote Lala?

no thaaaaaanks

Wait, I'm being dumb. You can obviously stop people you think are town from dying if you're JK.

I'm so bad at this. This is why I avoid theme games.

dw it's just cos you're scum!

Spoiler:

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vote: bubbleteeeeeeeeeeea

ヽ(^o^)ρ┳┻┳°σ(^o^)/

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Your defence of Mollie was, what's that word...ah yeah, scummy.

Defense of Mollie?

Wasn't she the first vote on the Mollie wagon?

i wasn't the first one who voted her but because anti (and maybe or maybe not someone else?) unvoted then voted later so i was in the first position on the wagon at the time of the lynch

Right. But where is he getting you defended her?

ah
he seems to just be making that up to throw shade at me
i didn't defend mollie, i explained that at the initial formation stage of her wagon that made me feel uneasy because i could see how her actions up to that point might come from town. then there were many shenanigans and i voted her. it wouldn't make sense for me to be on her wagon if i was defending her anyway so...

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Maybe All Alone is scum and scum no-killed thereby framing BBT?

seems like a bad plan though? what happens when framed bbt flips town?

I would say that's crazy?

yeah i'd say so too!

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now that i've thought about it and read the latest posts it does make sense for the claim to come from town rather than scum. if all alone was scum this would be a short-sighted plan because if we lynched bubbly and he flipped town, suspicion would immediately be placed on all alone

And then if we lynch all alone and he flips red, you'd probably be the next most suspicious person. Cause for him to make that claim, he'd have to have a good reason. And the only reason I can think of is he wanted to stop the wagon from forming on you which it looked like was gonna happen.

i don't think all alone is scum but if they are i'm happy for you to find me extra super duper suspicious for those *~*reasons*~*

btw i think you're town at this point in time

also, the prospective wagon on me is scum-driven because bubbly is one of the bad eggs (or bad tapioca pearls i might say)

Like you keep saying it's a bad plan for scum cause it would make All Alone suspicious. But it wouldn't be that bad of a plan if it kept scum from getting lynched today.

i don't think it's an optimal strategy for scum? even if this plan is, in fact, being executed then it makes a scum lynch extremely likely next day

i mean, i see what you're getting at but i'm still of the opinion that it's unlikely scum would want to use this strat

[lalaladucks]

I still don't get why my bad knowledge about roles is scummy. I bet if I could be bothered I could find a tonne of games that show me saying the same kind of things as

either

alignment. Bad role knowledge is not alignment indicative and it's funny how so many people are jumping at this.

Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.

wow yeah you're really convincing me that you're town right now bud keep it up i might just soften a little and unvote because i drank a bubbletea this afternoon and it was glorious

[lalaladucks]

haha

suspicious

bubbletea >_>

It is? Why?

oh no need to act so

innocent

man!

according to ~some sources~ you're supposed to be good at mafia so i don't think you didn't actually know what roleblockers do!

also you're scum!

[lalaladucks]

OK, these first 3 posts are Lala expressing her dislike with the Mollie wagon - the problem is, she doesn't do anything about it. She's just like, 'aww man I'm so uncomfortable with this Mollie wagon but I'm not going to present any better options or actually state why my read is changing, instead, I'm just going to waffle about why I don't like it so that it's really easy to change my mind if I need to and I don't actually stop the momentum of the wagon.'

since we apparently use META now, i'm like that all of the time? can't really be bothered to explain some things. sometimes i don't really know why i changed my mind or it's purely gut, so i just say whatever comes to mind! and it's gotten me mislynched many a time
(except for my first + second game; in my first couple of games i tried really hard and put a lot of thought into stuff but it didn't work out so great and i still was mislynched in the second one so now i just float around and do whatever!)

i started to get a bad feeling about lynching you but all you have done recently is shout 'i am TOWN' and about how it's going to be

hilarious

when you flip and tell us to pay attention to your reads - but i've examined them and i'm finding them somewhat unclear and not so easy to follow???

Then came the change of mind - Mollie is back to being an acceptable wagon. Again, Lala doesn't explain anything, she's just very waffly on the whole thing. It looks like she is trying to feign that she is reevaluating her reads.

Spoiler:

Scum don't WK hard - I think people learnt a long time ago that it's a great way of getting yourself lynched. For the people who missed Lala defending Mollie - you're not looking closely enough. Scum try to appear unsure/uneasy about the wagon

without actually stopping it

. Which is exactly what Lala was doing.

nope!

The reason it stands out so much is that if you compare it to the way JarJar approached defending Mollie, they're worlds apart.

like the season of survivor?? nice nice
see jarjar actually was defending mollie, after she started spamming the thread i stopped really caring if she was lynched because she wasn't helping us?

JarJar's is from a town perspective. Lala's is from a scum perspective.

nuh uhhh

[lalaladucks]

It would be pretty surprising to me if All Alone isn't capable of roleblocking, regardless of their alignment. I want to

waffle a bit

think about the not-knowing-what-a-roleblocker-does thing though. I'm probably more of a sucker for that kind of stuff in general from scum than I should be and I feel dirty and biased by other things in the game even before taking that into consideration.

I'm caught between wanting to wordvomit opinions that might not even make sense and wanting to say absolutely nothing so I can give myself some space to shake some things that I don't want to believe. Gah. I need something on which to ground myself right now

ヽ(^o^)ρ┳┻┳°σ(^o^)/

can you ground yourself on this ping-pong table?

it's fun!

[lalaladucks]

Lala, I wasn't using meta to prove anything - I was saying it's not alignment indicative.

Tell me, how does skill level correlate to knowledge about roles?

a skilled player of the game mafia may be expected to be reasonably knowledgeable about the roles involved in the game of mafia?

Nobodies using meta but you. Your response to my case is actually pretty bad and I hope to see you accumulate votes quickly.

lol that was your case?

man you almost convinced me i'm scum. quivering in my boots over here D:

Spoiler: case on bubbletea

sjdjndjnf

[lalaladucks]

fro99er i enjoy your sheep and they're making me wanna vote wanderer (WOOLYYY ahhh) but bubbly is mostest suspiciousest in my opinion still!

not too sure if what you're saying is a scumslip actually is a scumslip? i mean it could be but idk it isn't as convincing for me as it seems to be for you

will vote wanderer if it comes to that but would prefer bbt

also how did you get the characters to stay there? did they just do that on their own?? whenever i have stuff in a shape it all just gets swept to the left D:

pedit: sheeeep :3

pedit pedit: i don't think dv is scum D: well i hope not anyway. he doesn't seem extremely suspicious imo

[lalaladucks]

oh yeah i was gonna ask you about what you said about drk because i was confused because it didn't seem to match what i remembered but then i forgot

[lalaladucks]

aw sheep :<

[lalaladucks]

And I think you're the only one who keeps bringing up the possibility of a no-kill. I think it's a ridiculous notion.

gonna agree with you here

don't think scum would've no-killed on night 1

[lalaladucks]

ehh i will say though

it just seems a bit strange that you unvoted just now fro999?

i think i kinda expected you to ride it out a bit longer than that - some of the players haven't even commented and may not have seen the latest developments

[lalaladucks]

like

you don't really seem the type to give up so easily

[lalaladucks]

hmmm. you also have periodically mentioned several reasons for you to be town but... umm seems a tiny bit out of context maybe? like i wasn't suspecting you. just noting that it seems out of character (of course i may have no idea of the actual fro99er character so meh!) and had not drawn any conclusions regarding your alignment from that observation. i guess i might describe your behaviour as seeming preemptively defensive? but i don't really think you're scum at this point in time so not really sure why.

yeah this probably doesn't really make sense! oh well

[lalaladucks]

yeah i'm pretty sure he explicitly said he wasn't sure...

[lalaladucks]

@Anti: I know that post is out there, and I still want All Alone's reasoning for RB'ing BBT. Roleblocking an unknown player is rather anti-town so if he really is town, his scumread must have been really strong. I can't imagine his choice was just based on that alone.

all alone was on bubbly all day 1

literally almost all of aa's posts are pointing out bbt's sketchiness

[lalaladucks]

do you guys actually find wanderer more suspicious than bubbletea??

we have a claimed roleblock on bbt!

although i am tempted to just vote wanderer cos she's also dodgy as heck

let's see.. i think all alone is town. anti is town. jarjar is town. fro99er is probably town.
drk is like a 70% townread. espe idk hasn't really done much but a slight townlean i suppose.
had a medium strength townread on dv before but i'm not finding his dancing around wanderer is helping it?
bella? idk.. she had the things irl ?: (and v/la)
i literally forgot mtd was in this game until wanderer mentioned him lol (tbf he is v/la)
wanderer is dooodgy.
bubbletea is oooobviously scum.

[lalaladucks]

OH MY GOD I JUST MADE THE CONNECTION YOUR AVI IS A GIRAFFE AND I HAVE A GIRAFFE THAT WANTS TO BE A FROG WE CAN BE FROGDUCKGIRAFFEMATES FOR LIFE!

AND SHEEEEEP

WHAT HOW DO YOU HAVE A GIRAFFE?

WHY EVER WOULD IT WANT TO BE A FROG??

Spoiler: AND SHEEEEEP?

[lalaladucks]

So. We finally got this fixed.

32 pages.

fuck me.

hello i'll catch you up
we lynched mollie yesterday and there was a bit of a debacle with lots of quotes within quotes within quotes within dreams within dreams
and bubbletea and wanderer are scumz
so yeah probably the best course of action is to vote one of them
you don't even really need to read all of this tbh
read the first 3 pages and last 3 pages and claim you're all caught up it will look very legit

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THAT SHEEP IS MOAR WOOLY

Look how wooly and cute

i knowww it's gonna wear me down eventually D:

*sung to the tune of twinkle twinkle or ABC*

Bah bah sheep me, have you any gall?
Yes frog, yes frog, bladders full
One for wand'rer and for B-B-T
One for the scummy one who lynched Mol-lie

Bah bah sheep me, have you any walls?
No sir, no sir, I'll vote scum for alls!

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[lalaladucks]

yep it's the ellipses

if you're not lynched today i'd like to lynch you tomorrow still

a claimed rb is not meaningless btw, i believe all alone about it and can't wait to hang you up bud!

[lalaladucks]

are imaginary numbers involved in that

[lalaladucks]

hey guys how fun looks like we're going pretty well

anti thank you for posting that fanfic i got a good laugh out of it

VOTE: BUUUUUSCUMUUUUUUUUUUUUUBBLETEA

[lalaladucks]

is there anybody out there

[lalaladucks]

i think a fun idea

is to lynch bubbly

could we do that pls

[lalaladucks]

guysssssssss

[lalaladucks]

Oh here we go DV and BBT jumping on me. FWIW I don't think scum BBT tries to mislynch me because he knows what will happen and would rather buddy me (as he's done twice before).

DV is probably scum trying to set himself up to jump on to me.

VOTE: DV

aghhhhhhh

but bubbletea!!!

lynching bbt is a win-win situation. we get to sort out the business of all alone--rb-->bbt??? guysssss he's like almost definitely scum omg i knew he was suspicious right from the ellipses

mtd are you in this game? who is scums?

bella why don't you wanna help us get rid of bubbly? do you think he's town??

drk halp!!

[lalaladucks]

lala, how is lynching BBT win-win? Where is the win if he flips town?

then we lynch all alone!!

if neither of bbt or all alone are scum i'm going to quit playing mafia for the rest of the year

[lalaladucks]

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are you serious espe

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[lalaladucks]

JARJAR IS ONE OF THE MOST TOWN PPL HERE

what's going on

[lalaladucks]

he wants to lynch lurkers so he's scum??

[lalaladucks]

sure lurkers (if town) are lynchbait but newbs also often wanna get rid of them in my experience??

[lalaladucks]

That's the funniest thing I have read in a long, long time.

Thanks.

you're welcome bud!! always happy to be obliged

[lalaladucks]

Why are people scared of rogue elements?

Why am I not on the list when I had I think two post total yesterday?

he wants to lynch lurkers so he's scum??

yes

[lalaladucks]

did i just do that

ughhh

i mean to respond to those >_>

Why are people scared of rogue elements?

roentgenium??

Why am I not on the list when I had I think two post total yesterday?

well you've had some semblance of a presence today i guess? laying down a vote and stuff? jarjar can answer this

he wants to lynch lurkers so he's scum??

yes

no!

[lalaladucks]

BBT, I can't work out from 905 whether you think you'll be lynched or you don't.

then we lynch all alone!!

Is there a reason you think scum must be between BBT and All Alone? As far as I know, All Alone could have easily roleblocked a town-BBT, but I'm not sure if I'm missing something here.

well it's mostly just that i think bbt is scum
and all alone is town
if bbt is lynched and somehow turns out to be town then all alone looks pretty bad i think? i haven't really speculated about your hint nudge wink cough *maybe* knowing an explanation for what happened night 1 though so shrug

i think a fun idea

is to lynch bubbly

could we do that pls

This read is so stale. I was really worried about DV being scum, but then he posted an actual evaluation. People like JarJAr, who are giving lurkers a hard time - why is this not a warning bell for you? Lalal has a lot of posts but if you take away 'fluffy lovely lala-ness' and 'vote BBT', the content isn't great.

jarjar is town dude
i feel it in my bones

bones

lurkers should have the spotlight thrown on them in my opinion, we need every member to participate or we won't be able to formulate a complete understanding of the game's standing
i'm never gonna give my read on bubbly up
he's a scummy gummy rummy tummy scumbumble

Ok, again, activity is not indicative of alignment. Also, if BBT was scum, you'd prefer to lynch prod dodgers? Really?

that's not what he said
that's a bit of a misrep
smells fishy
what are you up to bella
hmmm

Esp, your scum read on me is super stale.

Let's talk about it.

Yup. Guys, posts like this make me think BBT is town. Add to that his back and forth with frog, and it reads town!bbt.(and even if he WASN'T, lala's static read still sucks.)

umm why does it make you think he's town? why would a dastardly scumbumble not question people's scumreads of them?

JarJAr and lalala are both pushing 'easy' cases, it makes them look busy when they ain't.

i'm not pushing bubbly because i think it's 'easy' - he's hard to lynch! look at him. i've been trying to get him out the whole game and still, he lingers. i'm not trying to look busy??? i'm just trying to get others to hang up bubbleteaaa because i think he is a scumbumble beeee

JARJAR IS ONE OF THE MOST TOWN PPL HERE

what's going on

...note to self, note to self, pre-associatives without a flip are bad.

._____.

AllA prolly town unless 2 scumteams.

why would you throw that idea in there? are you trying to create paranoia? is this not a normal game where we would

most likely

have to be notified if it was multiball?? pls guys someone correct me if i'm wrong but that just seems ridiculous

Scum - lala and JarJar. It even rhymes!

oh rhyming! must be true then right!!

bella is hella sus guys
i'd tell-a you now, young fella,
think bella's trying to sell-a us a guise
also nutella is great on toast which is

yell-a

so just open your eyes
look up to the skies
well-a well-a well-a huh
tell me more, tell me more
now what this has become i'm not too sure
..........an excell-a-ent idea is to lynch bubbletea
hellen keller?
guzzle guzzle guzzle

[lalaladucks]

D:

which game?

[lalaladucks]

umm yeah

a bit hard for me to explain my read on you bubbly.. it's kinda like

a feeling

i really feel that you are almost definitely one of the scums

hmmmm since i can't really explain it i can see how it doesn't really seem that legit

but dude you're so sussss??? like oh man

MAN

there probably would be some great explanations for my scumread of you but i'm not gonna go through your iso.. yawwwwn

i don't really mind if we don't lynch you today. just as long as we eventually get to lynching you or manage to lynch other scums with you turning out to be town (though i doubt this scenario)

could go for a bella lynch, her catch-up was very meh. and looks like she's trying to scumpaint me. sighhh

also would like mtd to comment more on things

and drk froggy kitty on death row pls come and do some stuff pls it would be nice? pls

[lalaladucks]

Fuck, epse's town. Hiii espe.

I don't get this...are you unhappy Esp is town?

i think she's more just saying like

woah

strong town feels

could be wrong of course so don't listen to me :p

Disagree about easy cases. Lynching lurkers is one of the hardest things to do on this site. Lynching me isn't quite as difficult, but it's still quite a task. I agree though that Lala is using the difficulty of achieving my lynch to make herself look busy.

i just wanna lynch you though!!!!!
aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
i could not
care
less
about
looking
busy

like
dude r u srs
srs
my posts are blatantly half fluff
does that seem like a good way to make myself look busy???
it does not to me
seems like a good way to look

suspicious

well it's mostly just that i think bbt is scum
and all alone is town
if bbt is lynched and somehow turns out to be town then all alone looks pretty bad i think?

Why does All Alone look bad if I flip town? I don't get that at all...

well
firstly
you probably won't flip town so it's a moot point
but
idk, a possibility could be that all alone might be a scumsy wumsy trying to just get you out for some reason and so fakeclaimed a roleblock to incriminate you?? lol writing it out it sounds just ridiculous. so yeah all alone probably wouldn't look extremely very much more suspicious if you flipped town i suppose. but also they've been trying to get you lynched for quite a while? eh nah not really something that would make them look more sus!

[lalaladucks]

bella? bubbletea? any of those sound like fun votes drk?

[lalaladucks]

well which is more suspicious in your opinion?

could do eenie meenie miney moe either

[lalaladucks]

>:

[lalaladucks]

sryyyy out right now

will read all the things and answer everything tomorrow!!

still think bbt and bella are scumsies plz lynch also mtd if you could plz post more so i could get a bit of a read on ya that would be lovely

[lalaladucks]

words words are all around but the language is gone every letter without meaning a silent bubble amid a sea of horses riding on a wind of reality

many philosophical D:
much intrigue D:
such interests <3=

[lalaladucks]

Lalala, do you think I'm crazy in thinking that wanderer playing against the grain and attacking All Alone over BBT makes BBT more likely town? I'm pretty sure you're town and I like your read on BBT, though my tendency in this sort of situation would be to lynch/vig Bella who I'd feel more comfortable with dead (<3 you Bella). If you tell me to vote BBT, I will though. (And this isn't an attempt to put the blame on you if he does flip town. I take full responsibility for whatever vote I make)

hmm
well
i'm of the opinion that wanderer was just trying to associate herself with bbt such that it looked like as a pair they were just too scummy to be scum together (because if they actually were a pair she

surely wouldn't

make it SOOO obvious right?? no i think wanderer would!)
but of course it's wifom so shrug
i won't tell you to vote bubbly, though i think we should lynch him! you can decide if he's suspicious enough for the rope :p

pedit:

L-1!

got a claim bubbles?

[lalaladucks]

interesting that bubbletea seems to have disappeared now when the votes have piled up

[lalaladucks]

don't buy this claim one bit, lynch bbt good night

[lalaladucks]

yay

[lalaladucks]

if only anti were here to spam us with wonderfully written twilight fanfiction

[lalaladucks]

don't push me

[lalaladucks]

cos i'm close to the edge

[lalaladucks]

i'm trying

[lalaladucks]

not to lose my head

[lalaladucks]

na na na na na na

[lalaladucks]

dun dun dun

[lalaladucks]

another one bites the dust

[lalaladucks]

wtf is that kill

vote: bella

[lalaladucks]

i think massclaims are fun!

would do

[lalaladucks]

mine is special

[lalaladucks]

bella next!

[lalaladucks]

Do you want me to reveal targets?

yup

[lalaladucks]

omg i forgot mtd was in this game again

[lalaladucks]

Hi

it's claim time bud

what are you

don't say a unicorn

[lalaladucks]

-snipbbtsayingscummythings-
You mentioned you were starting to town read me - I think we should synch up. I'd've shot you by now if I was scum, yeah You = hard to lynch, and, like you said, busywork for lala.

suspicious.

well random.org says bella is more suspicious

Vote: Bellaphant

is this vote ok?

WTF is this?? @

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nyway, I think this is a liability in lylo.

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errible post, worse vote. I don't wanna speed-wagon, but...o.0

man i'm so bad at picking up crumbs didn't even notice that
a bit leery of bella's claim though

yep bella lynch is a good idea but then guess i'll die barring funny business >:

[lalaladucks]

sigh

VOTE: jarjar

Sorry, I retract that townread.
That's too blatant of rolefishing for my liking.

^that is scum

[lalaladucks]

dv could be scum i suppose

fro-ninety-niner are you saying that you think you'll be nightkilled tonight?

[lalaladucks]

vote: m[afia]td

[lalaladucks]

whew

almost got knocked over by that activity guys

slow down please

[lalaladucks]

lol

[lalaladucks]

plotiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii you are the mostest awesomest mod!!

thank you for running the game it was great fun <3

i really enjoyed this playerlist actually! you all rock

knew bubbly was scum from those first two posts

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