Mini 1730: Suikoden U-Pick GAME OVER

Titus · Post Post #6 (isolation #0) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:13 am

Someone obvtown to me and fast.

VOTE: Elbrin

You're the leading contender...

We vote townies right?

Titus · Post Post #12 (isolation #1) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:47 am

*watches TV*

God I feel like a kid again.

Titus · Post Post #16 (isolation #2) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:57 am

In post 13, wgeurts wrote:What you watching?

Kids shows and election shows. Who knew counting things was hard?

Titus · Post Post #26 (isolation #3) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:05 am

I'm at L-3. ffs.

Titus · Post Post #34 (isolation #4) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:26 am

In post 31, Suzune wrote:So what are we thinking here, Elbirn clearly wants those votes. Why though.

Don't know... he's reading town but wants votes, so I'll play along for now until someone pings scum.

Titus · Post Post #37 (isolation #5) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:30 am

In post 35, Suzune wrote:My only other thought was a jester. In your suggestion LQ, Since we would not know what we were activating it would be silly for us to get the votes up that much.

This is going to be a wacky game. Strategy will be key here IMO. Question all actions?

Titus · Post Post #39 (isolation #6) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:33 am

In post 38, Suzune wrote:Well I will question all unusual actions at the very least.

There's no such thing as a normal action here from what I have seen.

Titus · Post Post #41 (isolation #7) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:37 am

In post 40, LicketyQuickety wrote:So far I don't like Jeanne11

VOTE: LicketedQuickety

Doesn't like someone. Keeps RVS vote.

I don't like that.

Titus · Post Post #46 (isolation #8) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:59 am

Really feeling icky about LQ...

That's not really a protown sentiment to push even if Jeanne is scum...

Titus · Post Post #49 (isolation #9) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:04 am

In post 48, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 46, Titus wrote:Really feeling icky about LQ...

That's not really a protown sentiment to push even if Jeanne is scum...

How is it not pro-town? do we not push Scum or something? C'mon Titus, I know you know better that that.

If she's doing something out of the ordinary, town or scum, it's a crumb of somesort. As such, it's a rolefish.

Titus · Post Post #51 (isolation #10) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:08 am

In post 50, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 47, Jeanne11 wrote:Well, I could link you, but I cannot really remember where. I've done it on multiple sites.

You and Titus seem to be a little too coordinated for my taste.

PEdit: Why are you giving her that kind of credit Titus?

Stop rolefishing. I'm not giving her credit. I don't fully trust her. You're just rolefishing.

Titus · Post Post #71 (isolation #11) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:23 am

In post 70, Suzune wrote:So how come no one thinks it's weird he wants to be lynched and there is zero caution...

One if the few things ika taught me, jester play is almost always town.

Titus · Post Post #73 (isolation #12) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:28 am

I concur.

This feels weird though. This game state needs beer.

Titus · Post Post #74 (isolation #13) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:34 am

What do you think of LQ? Not liking his roefish but I am paranoid about how nice Jeanne is. I figured Jeanne would wat to grill me within an inch of my life after last game.

Titus · Post Post #79 (isolation #14) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:40 am

Suzune, do you see LQ as role fishing?

Titus · Post Post #80 (isolation #15) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:41 am

Also, how am I tunneling? The game's hardly started...

Titus · Post Post #84 (isolation #16) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:48 am

You don't have to have the talent to see role fishing. Role fishing is done by those who can't see crumbs, not those who can.

Titus · Post Post #86 (isolation #17) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:50 am

Your language seems stilted Suzune. What gives?

Titus · Post Post #89 (isolation #18) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:03 pm

Why am I probably town?

Titus · Post Post #93 (isolation #19) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:26 pm

In post 91, Blackest Magick wrote:PokerFace here, I never played suikoden so I will be wiki-ing flavor stuff as needed

@Elbirn,
who are your scum buddies?

Me neither. Although I can say the role the mod gave me was very cool awkward and just all around appropriate.

Titus · Post Post #101 (isolation #20) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:40 pm

In post 98, Klingoncelt wrote:So, Titus is tunneling and Lickety's rolefishing.

Nothing new there.

You've seen my tunnels and you think I'm tunnelling?

Titus · Post Post #105 (isolation #21) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:54 pm

@BlackMagick, Which Head Posted post 8? I thought the same as Elbrin but some dumb townies hate my VCA. What's going on with that?

@Elbrin, I really hope you're not scum buddying me.

Titus · Post Post #110 (isolation #22) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:59 pm

In post 107, Elbirn wrote:
In post 105, Titus wrote:@BlackMagick, Which Head Posted post 8? I thought the same as Elbrin but some dumb townies hate my VCA. What's going on with that?

@Elbrin, I really hope you're not scum buddying me.

Well if I'm reading things correctly you're pretty much conftown for reasons that would be anti town to elaborate upon

Soooo yeah, I'm gonna want to work with you.

Titus · Post Post #111 (isolation #23) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 2:19 pm

In post 106, Ranger wrote:VOTE: BRantz.

Mark: wgeurts.

(I wonder if Varsoon will accept that? If so, wgeurts will confirm when it's been done. If not, then I suppose I need to go through the effort of PMing it.)

What's this marking thing?

Titus · Post Post #113 (isolation #24) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:03 pm

What do you think of me? I want to know if you like me? :-p

Titus · Post Post #117 (isolation #25) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:27 pm

Sorry for your loss Drixx.

I am here.

Titus · Post Post #122 (isolation #26) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:54 pm

What is marked?

Titus · Post Post #135 (isolation #27) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:00 pm

Hmm things to think about happening recently but quick judgments may not be best Elbrin. I tend to favor a more literal approach as things happen to me during the day.

Do you see where I went with LQ's role fishing?

@Ranger, your move to LQ feels slimy to me.

@LQ, Are you American?

Titus · Post Post #141 (isolation #28) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:14 pm

In post 140, Elbirn wrote:@Titus 135

Im...not sure. It's 3am here and maybe I need to sleep and reread that to make sure I get it

Maybe I am reading 107 wrong but the assumption you're making is incorrect and thus fallible. Take a more literal approach as things happen during the day.

If that's not clear, I will just give up trying to communicate that point.

Titus · Post Post #155 (isolation #29) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:26 am

In post 148, FireKari wrote:Every post which has been or will be posted in this thread already exists, and is searchable online via the Library of Babel. So many possibilities and variables.. We find ourselves pondering which words will have been "chosen" in the worldline this version of us lands in.

Oh great Oracle, can you tell what ails me? It's very important. I must know if you see everything. My block, my emails, are you the ancient NSA?

Titus · Post Post #156 (isolation #30) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:31 am

In post 154, Elbirn wrote:Oh titus nvm I understand, I can be a bit dense at times. 3am isn't a good time for me to be thinking.

Is that yukari posting nonsense and voting Jeanne for dumb reasons?
Stop that yukari.

Not happy with lq thus far.

Uhhhh idk what else to talk about

Nonsense is never nonsense. Just like I think that gibberish has meaning (that I could not crack without a cheat sheet) so could her response. I like speaking in tailored riddles as I can be sure only the intended target receives the message. Everyone else would see gibberish not otherwise specified.

I am not 100% certain Jeanne is town. Probable, yes. I am probably never going to reach 100% but the actions I have seen are long term town or short term scum.

Titus · Post Post #159 (isolation #31) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:07 am

I see your point. I might be in, I have pulled it as scum before more but I don't know.

Titus · Post Post #160 (isolation #32) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:16 am

In post 157, Elbirn wrote:I'm happy with Jeanne for now. She hasn't done much yet but she has a very casual tone. She feels relaxed. I liek it.

Keep an eye on her for me. Make sure I am not hoowinked k?

Titus · Post Post #163 (isolation #33) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:53 am

What did you get from Jeanne?

What are your current thoughts?

Titus · Post Post #165 (isolation #34) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:04 am

Reads on others. *glares at you for post 10 comment*

Titus · Post Post #167 (isolation #35) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:28 am

I glare at people who are not being smart.

*glares at you*

Titus · Post Post #169 (isolation #36) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:34 am

Dankeshen.

Titus · Post Post #172 (isolation #37) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:11 pm

You really try to push my buttons don't you?

Titus · Post Post #177 (isolation #38) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:37 pm

Why the fuck do you think Elbrin's scum? That seems pretty dumb. Your confidence is out of nowhere.

Titus · Post Post #180 (isolation #39) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:48 pm

Nah never late to encourage wagons. Are you slf conscious all of a sudden?

Maybe a wagon will get through to you.

Titus · Post Post #182 (isolation #40) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:56 pm

VOTE: Elbrin

The last time Jeanne went crazy, she had scum. So I get the message.

Titus · Post Post #184 (isolation #41) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:02 pm

You are required to post in English right?

Titus · Post Post #188 (isolation #42) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:13 pm

Nah, don't hurt me. I am voting da scum. We'll crack him with our unorthodox techniques.

Titus · Post Post #192 (isolation #43) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:20 pm

Apples v elderberries v Jujube, which will produce the most yield? I am a crazy farmer.

Titus · Post Post #195 (isolation #44) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:26 pm

In post 193, Jeanne11 wrote:See? Titus became crazy as well, aanonoeoewnow

Became crazy, nah crazy town is what everyone thinks of me as town. So if I embellish a little, to get scum lynched oh well.

Oooh baby I was born this way.

Black Magick can die too. Elbrin's case was good.

Don't you think Elbrin was doing epic bussing?

Titus · Post Post #199 (isolation #45) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:28 pm

In post 196, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 176, Jeanne11 wrote:Hey, everyone, Titus said it herself, she gets angrier the more certain the probability of lynch is. Let's see if she's gonna start yelling if we lynch her scumbuddy Elbirn.

This is the worst fucking argument I've seen in this thread so far. But Jeanne11 can't be serious her. I still don't like it at all.

I'd really like it if Jeanne11 got some pressure on them, because these kinds of posts are shitty and I don't want to see Jeanne11 skate by with this kind of shit.

VOTE: Jeanne11

It's actually true. I get frustrated with bad lynches as town and aggressive conspire to out scum.

That mailman isn't here and he's inadvertently making me look bad for getting caught in traffic. Oh well.

Titus · Post Post #200 (isolation #46) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:29 pm

Votecount please

Titus · Post Post #203 (isolation #47) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:32 pm

Well anyone can say you don't like someone's posts. That's not happening. Thoughts on Elbrin and Black Magic?

Titus · Post Post #209 (isolation #48) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:46 pm

Ranger, what is marking?

Titus · Post Post #212 (isolation #49) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:59 pm

Nah, you have to answer after a Votecount. Nectarines is not an options but yeah I can see you wanting apples.

Titus · Post Post #215 (isolation #50) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:05 pm

In post 211, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 209, Titus wrote:Ranger, what is marking?

Yeah, and its bizarre that they are Scum reading me for commenting on it.

Who are you town reading? You seem to be flailing after Elbrin's case on BM attacking anyone and everyone. You have avoided this question and it annoys me.

Titus · Post Post #216 (isolation #51) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:08 pm

In post 213, Ranger wrote:
LicketyQuickety wrote:That's great. You "marked" someone you know is Town?
Nope!
I marked someone. Saying my opinion on them may give a hint of what my role does, and I have no intention of sharing whether marking is a good, bad, or just neutral thing.

Yeah, and its bizarre that they are Scum reading me for commenting on it.
It's not the act of commenting on it.

It's what comments you made about it.

The implication allows such implication anyway.

Titus · Post Post #217 (isolation #52) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:13 pm

Cerb needs to post.

Titus · Post Post #220 (isolation #53) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:18 pm

I am the psychic psycho.

I want your thoughts. I respect your catching of me in Stevens Universe. I haven't seen your behavior be like that. It's a problem to me.

Titus · Post Post #222 (isolation #54) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:23 pm

LQ, your reads on BM and Elbrin....

Titus · Post Post #226 (isolation #55) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:46 pm

In post 223, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 220, Titus wrote:I am the psychic psycho.

I want your thoughts. I respect your catching of me in Stevens Universe. I haven't seen your behavior be like that. It's a problem to me.

Thanks Titus! <3 I've been busy. Got in trouble at work for phone posting, so I won't be able to do the whole hanging out all day thing that I used to do...I'll just read the game then, and that's what's happened. I feel like todays been super fucking weird. Elbirn scum claim on P1? RVS that all piled up on you? Like, I feel there has to be significance to that, but I don't know it. The rest of the crap going on, the interactions between Jeanne, yourself, elbirn, and whoever the hell else has been talking, I semi-skimmed as I was reading, and I'm going to have to reread all of it again to give you anything of any value.

-Cerb

Please do. I am always RVSed. So meh on that. BM's RVS is the worst I have seen on me in quite awhile if ever. I want your thoughts. I want your engagement.

@elbrin, moon logic. Just wait. RR will tell me if he wants apples.

Titus · Post Post #230 (isolation #56) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:00 pm

In post 229, Reasonably Rational wrote: you're being demanding Titus and I really just wanna sit here and watch some youtube and play some games for a bit. I'll reread this and give you my thoughts before I go to sleep tonight, k?

Oh, and unrelated, eh, mind if I pm you asking a simple question RE: CA highway code? You're the only lawyer I know who's licensed to practice in my state. :p

-Cerb

You can always pm me about that provided you don't discuss ongoing games.

I am demanding. Like a drill sergeant. Sorry not sorry.

Titus · Post Post #238 (isolation #57) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:54 pm

Cuz he's Elbrin's scumbuddy.

My favorite fruit is Elderberries but I am pretending like I hate them for a social event. Apples need to be purged. For some reason people don't like Hog plums. They're cool though.

Now, which fruits should we debate purging?

Titus · Post Post #239 (isolation #58) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:55 pm

In post 232, Bright wrote:Grrrrrr

VOTE: Titus

Why so angry? I'm nice.

Titus · Post Post #240 (isolation #59) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:59 pm

In post 224, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 222, Titus wrote:LQ, your reads on BM and Elbrin....

Elb, is being really out of character and I can't say I like it.

BM, don't know, they're not on my radar at all.

In post 235, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 234, Elbirn wrote:So titus, what's your favorite fruit/vegetable?

How bout something productive for a change.

Why are you voting BM?

In post 237, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 236, Elbirn wrote:Cuz he's scum?

How do you know?

Why so interested in defending BM if he's "not on your radar"?

Why did you ask Elbrin "how did he know" BM is scum rather tan why did you think that?

Titus · Post Post #242 (isolation #60) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:05 pm

RR, thoughts on BM? He has a short ISO.

Titus · Post Post #244 (isolation #61) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:09 pm

In post 104, Elbirn wrote:
In post 8, Blackest Magick wrote:VOTE: Titus

We should lynch her before she goes all VCA on us.

Yeah so actually

This is a really shitty vote, and relies on

1. Removing a valuable town tool
2. Knowing that titus is town and will utilize said tool against scum

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Black Magick

Error. Try again later.

Titus · Post Post #249 (isolation #62) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:31 pm

In post 246, LicketyQuickety wrote:K, I don't like the way this thread is going. Stuff just isn't being discussed in depth. Town needs to get their act together.

Titus is playing very pro-town and that's my read on her.

You think I am protown? Why? I had a gibberish fest with Jeanne, been pushing Elbrin which no one agrees with me on and running into the same brick wall with BM. That's frustrating because I only have so much time before shit hits the fan as it does in role madness games.

Titus · Post Post #251 (isolation #63) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:39 pm

Where? Buzzwords aren't enough.

Titus · Post Post #253 (isolation #64) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:40 pm

Apples Figs Kiwi boooo

Titus · Post Post #255 (isolation #65) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:42 pm

In post 252, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 113, Titus wrote:What do you think of me? I want to know if you like me? :-p

Titus, how could anyone not like you?

Hi.

Elbrin or BM, who is scummier and why?

Titus · Post Post #262 (isolation #66) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:47 pm

In post 257, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 251, Titus wrote:Where? Buzzwords aren't enough.

You're asking questions and being active and pushing what you think is Scummy.

Why are you disagreeing with me on this?

It just looks like a tunnel with no substance that you are pushing because you think I'm Scum and you're wrong.

Buddying test.

You said I'm gamesolvey but now tunnelling with no substance?

Titus · Post Post #263 (isolation #67) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:47 pm

In post 261, Elbirn wrote:
In post 258, Bright wrote:RRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrr....

Graaaah! Gwarrrrr! KYreeeeeh! Kyrrrr!!

...........

Oh.

Huh?

Titus · Post Post #267 (isolation #68) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:50 pm

In post 265, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 143, Painbringer wrote:I don't think Wgeurts was even reading the whole thread when he posted that.
That vote seems pretty silly IMO.

Come on Lickety.

What's this? Isn't Firebringer already playing in this game in another hydra?

Hydra slip. That's Firebringer. The account is our hydra.

Titus · Post Post #269 (isolation #69) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:54 pm

In post 264, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 262, Titus wrote:
In post 257, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 251, Titus wrote:Where? Buzzwords aren't enough.

You're asking questions and being active and pushing what you think is Scummy.

Why are you disagreeing with me on this?

It just looks like a tunnel with no substance that you are pushing because you think I'm Scum and you're wrong.

Buddying test.

You said I'm gamesolvey but now tunnelling with no substance?

I recommend just...just not trying Titus. Between the two of you you guys WILL blow this thread up and it will do NOTHING to help us figure out either of your alignments.

-Cerb

Why so many suppositions here? 1) Assumes who LQ is 2) Assumes that I can't wind down conflict if protown? 3) Assumes that if LQ was town, I couldn't see that

Plus this Garcias an outright contradiction.

Titus · Post Post #276 (isolation #70) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:12 pm

In post 274, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 272, FireKari wrote:In a previous Varsoon game, a player had the ability to target everyone currently voting for him, with the effect of blocking all of their abilities even NK for the rest of the day and 1 night. Wasn't his only ability. He was town aligned.
~Yukari

Now that is a valid reason to be wary.

-Cerb

Wary? That's a valid reason to vote Elbrin.

Titus · Post Post #279 (isolation #71) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:13 pm

In post 275, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 253, Titus wrote:Apples Figs Kiwi boooo

What's with the fruit choices?

They make as much sense as the hat/egg thing.

Moon logic.

If I think you're town, I might tell you tomorrow.

Titus · Post Post #286 (isolation #72) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:22 pm

Could you both elaborate on Elbrin and the Devil game?

I don't care. I he's not going to post full sentences, then it's not worth my time as ai can't argue with a dog. Somehow it won't eat scummy fruit.

Titus · Post Post #290 (isolation #73) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:27 pm

Ok you want to talk Bright?

Rate the player

Grrr = town
Grrrrwar = lean town
Rwar = null
Krwar = lean scum
Kyrrr = scum

Line 1: Titus
line 2: Elbrin
Line 3: BM

Titus · Post Post #293 (isolation #74) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:40 pm

VOTE: LQ

Titus · Post Post #294 (isolation #75) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:42 pm

Kari: Are you town?
LG: I have no idea what you're talking about.

Titus · Post Post #296 (isolation #76) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:50 pm

So what's AUA then?

Titus · Post Post #300 (isolation #77) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:01 pm

In post 298, FireKari wrote:
In post 294, Titus wrote:Kari: Are you town?
LG: I have no idea what you're talking about.

Yep we are town. Though scumkari would also claim town, they have a secret obvtell.
But yea we really are town, also this our last game, glad we get to end on a Varsoon game, our fav mod. =)

I paraphrased your last convo in a smartass way. It was not a question.

Titus · Post Post #313 (isolation #78) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:02 pm

@Elbrin, get me a drink too. Something big might happen on Monday.

Titus · Post Post #345 (isolation #79) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 3:20 am

Jeanne, while I get your vote early, both of you are still arguing hypothethicals. You're letting scum coast and not providing solid reasons for your read. Let's take a chill pill and let Elbrin LQ BM and RR hang themselves by trying to lurk it out.

Titus · Post Post #347 (isolation #80) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 3:30 am

And what have you done to sort your nulls?

Titus · Post Post #349 (isolation #81) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 3:56 am

How do you "feel them out"?

Titus · Post Post #351 (isolation #82) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 4:05 am

*shrug* I think we talked enough. We're all suspecting scum.

I think Apples v Elderberries v Kiwi should happen Monday to counter scum.

Titus · Post Post #360 (isolation #83) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 4:59 am

Wow, 3 of my four major scumreads engaging in collective OMGUS. Go ahead and wagon me. I know your evil play.

RR, conclusion is strong but let's just say I have a healthy suspicion of you.

Titus · Post Post #362 (isolation #84) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 5:08 am

#352 is overly generous Elbrin. If LQ had said Elbrin was town, maybe. Here it just looks like he's keeping his options open. Elbrin could be scum, Ranger could've scum.

Titus · Post Post #375 (isolation #85) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 6:40 am

In post 373, Jeanne11 wrote:And then there's a fact that you aren't suspecting him at all, which alarms me a bit.......

*shakes head*

But what can I do, when nobody agrees with me......?

Stop saying no one agrees with you. That's a self-fulling prophecy.

Titus · Post Post #379 (isolation #86) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 6:47 am

In post 377, Jeanne11 wrote:@Titus Considering you and Shiro played the rest of us for fools, no.

Read the PT for that game. We did that to you by remaining cool calm and collected while letting you implode by not noticing obvious facts and then reminding you of them. That made you look like scum who wasn't solving or town who was insane.

No one really posts on weekends. Take your time. Get a case together. No one believes scum because you say so on D1.

Titus · Post Post #381 (isolation #87) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 6:49 am

In post 378, Elbirn wrote:Jeanne you're right to scumread lq, but "he claimed town" isn't the reason for it.

Bad premise, correct conclusion.

In post 380, Jeanne11 wrote:What's the right conclusion then?

I believe what you're looking for is what's the right premise.

Titus · Post Post #385 (isolation #88) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 6:53 am

Wrong way. Facts serve to outline gut.

Facts prove things. Gut says that either a) facts are wrong or b) there's a gambit or c) someone just really makes you paranoid by hugging you and telling you how to be good.

If your gut overrides facts, document it. Gut is unexplained logic. Why does your gut feel that way? What pings?

Titus · Post Post #386 (isolation #89) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 6:55 am

In post 384, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 380, Jeanne11 wrote:What's the right conclusion then?

Errr... You're the one pressuring me. I would think you would have a reason for that other than "Lets keep accusing a random person to see if I can get them to claim Scum". Not exactly the most eloquent way to scumhunt.

So is you're problem her scumhunting isn't eloquent or that she's scum?

Not all players are as loquacious as me.

Titus · Post Post #388 (isolation #90) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 7:01 am

41, 249, 262, 286 (was ignored), 346-350.

Seriously.... :/

Titus · Post Post #390 (isolation #91) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 7:10 am

Hey I'm going to inspect fruit till Monday.

Come along Jeanne. We need to know what others think.

VLA till Monday

Titus · Post Post #405 (isolation #92) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 7:44 am

In post 401, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 399, Jeanne11 wrote:So you are trying to get an easy kill. Thanks for confirming.

np. I don't believe for a sec that you sorted Titus that fast unless you guys have some sort of truth tell on each other which is a pretty big no no.

No one can read me 100%. This is the second post you have had a "no way" impossible reaction. You had it before with the how did you know question as well.

Titus · Post Post #408 (isolation #93) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 7:54 am

I didn't. I hate 100% reads. I am not stating her reads for town reading me as town firm are insufficient. They are fine. 400 is the first awkward post from Jeanne all game.

You seem to know the answer and are just objecting when we have it right based on lack of foundation.

Chew on that till Monday.

Titus · Post Post #413 (isolation #94) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 10:25 am

Wagon sensor is viable. I do have nagging doubts that Elbrin wants us to lynch him.

Titus · Post Post #414 (isolation #95) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 11:21 am

@Elbrin, Are Mulberries good for the table? We will need to make some space for cooking but I hear they increase brainpower.

@Suzune, Thoughts on BM and LQ?

Titus · Post Post #417 (isolation #96) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 12:18 pm

@Elbrin, Her answer is irrelevant before the taxicab arrives.

Vote count please mid

Titus · Post Post #419 (isolation #97) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 12:21 pm

In post 418, Jeanne11 wrote:Taxicab?

Yup. Mulburries cannot walk on their own. They must be brought to to the table.

Titus · Post Post #423 (isolation #98) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 12:27 pm

In post 421, Jeanne11 wrote:Yes. Yes I have. The wizard is pretty smart. Better do what the wizard says.

Wizards are great mailmen but with limiting spellcasting power.

Titus · Post Post #424 (isolation #99) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 12:28 pm

Klingon, got any reads for me?

Titus · Fri Oct 30, 2015 12:43 pm

Grandma, filter alternate reality and give reads please. No hedges.

Titus · Fri Oct 30, 2015 12:46 pm

In post 430, Elbirn wrote:
In post 91, Blackest Magick wrote:PokerFace here, I never played suikoden so I will be wiki-ing flavor stuff as needed

@Elbirn,
who are your scum buddies?

.......this was a good response?

Lolwat

Brain meld. Yeah that post is not cool.

Titus · Fri Oct 30, 2015 12:48 pm

In post 432, Jeanne11 wrote:@Titus Who u calling a grandma? The only known witch is Beatrice. And mulberries will be delivered as soon the master of the house makes a purchase.

I met Klingon under the name Grandma on another site. Sometimes I derp and call her Grandma.

Titus · Post Post #435 (isolation #103) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:22 pm

You could give reads beyond Jeanne scum if you want to change the topic.

Titus · Post Post #442 (isolation #104) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:17 pm

In post 441, Ranger wrote:
LicketyQuickety wrote:Seriously Titus, I'm not understanding what Elb has on BM.
I see it.

Reads on both Elbrin and BM?

Titus · Post Post #445 (isolation #105) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:30 pm

In post 444, Ranger wrote:
Titus wrote:Let's take a chill pill and let Elbrin LQ BM and RR hang themselves by trying to lurk it out.
Elbirn's actually town I'm pretty sure.
RR I need more info to go on, but my guess for a third would be BRantz rather than them.

LicketyQuickety wrote:Elbirn, I can see as Scum here. BM IDK. RR is pretty Null to me.
I can point out all the interactions LQ has with BM and BM has with LQ, but this is among the ones demonstrating why they're a scumteam. As a bonus, they're both scum by individual play, LQ to a much stronger degree.

I like you. Are you an alt?

Titus · Post Post #447 (isolation #106) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:32 pm

In post 446, Ranger wrote:Tangent: can see RR as scum for 353.

Why?

Titus · Post Post #458 (isolation #107) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 5:43 pm

@KC, Oracle may be a role but I meant that in terms of Ancient Greek Oracle as a joke.

Wagon sensor can determine how many of each vote are on a wagon. It obviously isn't something one asks directly but why a town player acts scummy and solves his own wagon makes sense. Elbrin has both really townie and scummy moments. It made sense. *shrug*

You however don't get to call me role fishing when you outright ask if Elbrin and I are masons. That obviously is not getting an answer. That is role fishing.

Titus · Post Post #459 (isolation #108) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 5:44 pm

In post 456, FireKari wrote:Klingoncelt, did you read your role pm?
~Yukari

That question is gold or utter shit.

Titus · Post Post #462 (isolation #109) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 6:36 pm

This LQ wagon is totally town.

I feel lonely now.

Revoke vla

Titus · Post Post #469 (isolation #110) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 6:50 pm

In post 468, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 465, FireKari wrote:
In post 463, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 456, FireKari wrote:Klingoncelt, did you read your role pm?
~Yukari

Yeah, why?

Read it again.

Why? It says the same thing each time.

So are you AUA?

Not answering anything about my role. Also, why could you even guess masons when I have said Elbrin is scum?

Titus · Post Post #472 (isolation #111) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 6:55 pm

In post 470, FireKari wrote:Hey Titus, if you were scum who exactly would you be pushing right now?

It will help me sort you. Please answer

-Fire

Sure, who are my hypothetical buddies?

Titus · Post Post #474 (isolation #112) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 6:58 pm

In post 471, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 469, Titus wrote:
So are you AUA?

Not answering anything about my role. Also, why could you even guess masons when I have said Elbrin is scum?

What is AUA?

You and Elbirn have an obvious connection. There are the 4 possible connections I listed. I forgot about Cult. Cult makes 5.

Yes D1 cult. Suuuuure...Cult of the Insane Titus. We should totally call this as a subtext.

Read your role PM. Anything resembling AUA? Any town should know that from reading the role PM.

Titus · Post Post #478 (isolation #113) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 7:01 pm

In post 473, FireKari wrote:Are you saying you wouldn't bus them at all?

Lets go with me and Elbirn, why not.

-Fire

I don't like to bus. Distance sure. Bus no.

If you and Elbrin are my buddies, I would push Jeanne, RR, make Suzune out to be stupid or buddy her most likely. Depends on who is pushing which buddy or not.

Rule 1: let town implode. You can follow from there. That's my first scum rule.

Titus · Post Post #482 (isolation #114) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 7:03 pm

In post 479, FireKari wrote:The paranoid side of me is coming out.

Ohhh man, I will be mad if Elbirn and Kiling are scum. They both seem town to me.

-Fire

Read Elbrin's guesses closer. He knows. Wrong order.

Titus · Post Post #487 (isolation #115) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 7:09 pm

In post 483, FireKari wrote:
In post 478, Titus wrote:

I don't like to bus. Distance sure. Bus no.

If you and Elbrin are my buddies, I would push Jeanne, RR, make Suzune out to be stupid or buddy her most likely. Depends on who is pushing which buddy or not.

Rule 1: let town implode. You can follow from there. That's my first scum rule.

Interesting answer.

*scribbles some notes on titus*

So you see those three as likely town?
I know I said in the hypothetical situation they aren't already but....

RR seems the most interesting choice. How would you paint them as scum?

Jeanne does seem like a easy push.

-Fire

Nope. I think rR is scum. You've given me two townies as scum at least so :-p

RR hasn't brought the fire. Cerb head hasn't been Cerb. Drixx gets a pass cuz VLA. Cerb does not.

Titus · Post Post #488 (isolation #116) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 7:09 pm

In post 485, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 474, Titus wrote:

Read your role PM. Anything resembling AUA? Any town should know that from reading the role PM.

Oh, duh. I thought you meant something like V/LA

Yep, it's there. Thrice.

Then state what AUA is.

Titus · Post Post #493 (isolation #117) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 7:18 pm

I feel the weather heating up. Did the seasons change? Might have to move up the timetable and change which two fruits to plant.

Titus · Post Post #495 (isolation #118) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 7:18 pm

In post 491, FireKari wrote:Okay, well Titus is actually probably Town in this.

I hate to call it so early with Titus cause last time I called it early for her she was scum (the flashbacks of LOTH II creep up)

This feels town her.

But I have been wrong about that before.

@Titus you see what you do to me?

-Fire

Yup.

Titus · Post Post #503 (isolation #119) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 7:32 pm

In post 501, Elbirn wrote:
In post 493, Titus wrote:I feel the weather heating up. Did the seasons change? Might have to move up the timetable and change which two fruits to plant.

Elderberries aand....hm. apples perhaps?

Apples is good. Yet, elderberries are all the rage because I can't plant well.

Apples and ika palms?

Titus · Post Post #506 (isolation #120) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 7:41 pm

Why you claim flavor? Wouldn't you be worried about scum finding your role?

Titus · Post Post #507 (isolation #121) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 7:44 pm

In post 505, Elbirn wrote:I don't think ika palms are a good idea. If it has to be one of the 2, I'd go with elderberries.

Ok, then we'll hold off. Need your help to plant elderberries or I may get unexpected yields.

Titus · Post Post #515 (isolation #122) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:19 am

Why did my play improve? Why did you want to shoot me so bad?

The fruit thing I am fine with the farm being semi-private. Just trust me that all will improve soon enough.

Bright cannot ruin the farm patch so not really down to lynch it. Lynching it tells us nothing about its owner and if scum get a new one, it's a waste.

Who is scum to you?

Titus · Post Post #518 (isolation #123) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:48 am

@Jeanne, Cultivate but never forget failsafe procedures.

@Wgerts, My accusations of LQ role fishing stand. A play that supposes dumb town (which you do on LQ) is several layers of ewww and white knight. Forgetting who is voting you is usually, but not always a scum indicator. Him not knowing AUA is pretty bad. Either he has no attention to relevant details or is scum.

Titus · Post Post #521 (isolation #124) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:03 am

@wgeurts, Read LQ's responses. He read again and still didn't get it.

If LQ had a "suspicion" then he's not in RVS and should vote his "suspect". He didn't. This he doesn't have enough for a vote is crap.

Role fishing is a tactic usually associated with scum. We were not even 50 posts in and he's asking about why a player would post out of their norm. There's only three answers 1) they are scum, 2) it's a crumb 3)they're awkward/trying new strategy. Once a post is determined to be awkward, note it publicly. If door number 4 exists, someone will say. So to me directly pushing why is role fishing and should be to anyone else.

LQ claiming I am tunnelling him reads like coaching. Were not even 50 posts in at that point. No reasonable player should see that as a tunnel. A semi noob reaching that on his own, nope.

Titus · Post Post #534 (isolation #125) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:37 am

You are so not getting an invitation to the farm.

Any suspicion of mine is a tunnel in the making. It's a load of crap.

I don't have to suppose Jeanne is town to do that, but you and LQ seem to be on the same path regarding Jeanne. Namely that I cannot know Jeanne is town. I can't know anyone is town for certain but I am relatively confident.

Yet you seem to think Jeanne is town. So why are you objecting? Because I figured something out faster than you? :/

Titus · Post Post #535 (isolation #126) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:38 am

Why the Klingon vote wgeurts?

Titus · Post Post #536 (isolation #127) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:41 am

I also want details about how your read on me evolved.

Titus · Post Post #543 (isolation #128) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:52 am

You don't get to tell me to shut up. Anyone can tunnel, not just me. The point is though not all my suspicions are tunnels and LQ's comment there is shit.

You could just be lurking scum. Lurking town. Bad town or bad scum. I don't know which.

Give me some solid scumreads with reasoning or be happy in my scum/to be sorted pile. Until I see town Cerb, I will not be happy.

~Titus

Titus · Post Post #544 (isolation #129) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:53 am

In post 542, wgeurts wrote:
In post 536, Titus wrote:I also want details about how your read on me evolved.

Have you read my posts at all?
You started of looking similar to a game you were scum in, but your play diverted from that and this thing with you and jeanne indicates to me there is more than what meets the eye.

And you never considered me "rescuing" a buddy by posting gibberish wilfully?

Titus · Post Post #546 (isolation #130) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:57 am

In post 545, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 543, Titus wrote:You don't get to tell me to shut up. Anyone can tunnel, not just me. The point is though not all my suspicions are tunnels and LQ's comment there is shit.

You could just be lurking scum. Lurking town. Bad town or bad scum. I don't know which.

Give me some solid scumreads with reasoning or be happy in my scum/to be sorted pile. Until I see town Cerb, I will not be happy.

~Titus

Titus....you know I don't figure the game out D1, because of lack of content and lack of facts to use to figure the game out. It's unreasonable for you to expect that from me here, when I have NEVER done so in the past.

-Cerb

I do expect you to scumhunt. Solve the entire game? No.

Titus · Post Post #548 (isolation #131) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:01 am

So you think I am scum at point A. You think Jeanne is scum at point A. We start secretly liking each other fypov, and you reach the conclusion I am town.... Gap in logic.

Titus · Post Post #551 (isolation #132) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:07 am

@Jeanne, which fruits to grow? Why hasn't the new farmhand said anything?

@Wgeurts, That's weird. Your flip position doesn't make sense. You're town reading me but scumreading Jeanne (and not voting her might I add). It reads like a convenient way to undo a townreads or throw dust as you aren't really investigating but going lol flip needed.

Titus · Post Post #554 (isolation #133) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:16 am

Ok, my associates all recommend Elderberries. Apples still as the other fruit?

If so, I can start the harvest relatively soon.

Titus · Post Post #560 (isolation #134) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:37 am

@Jeanne, Slow down the harvest. We gotta be methodical.

We could do kiwi and hog fruit since only bad people don't like hog fruit.

Titus · Post Post #561 (isolation #135) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:39 am

Apples any hogs are preferred to me.

Titus · Post Post #562 (isolation #136) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:40 am

Apples need to be grown. Not enough thought on apples.

Titus · Post Post #564 (isolation #137) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:44 am

@Jeanne, Before the rest is revealed all need to be on board. Apples v kiwi is a bad match. Not sure the new farmhand gets why. We gotta sort it fast though considering you started the harvest.

Titus · Post Post #570 (isolation #138) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:50 am

In post 565, Jeanne11 wrote:Why do you think they're bad for harvest? We need the fruit that won't be eaten as fast, don't we?

We want people to order a fruit but when the backs are turned reach for another. We need a fruit that's sweet.

Titus · Post Post #574 (isolation #139) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:54 am

Yup, Jeanne you triggered harvest too early. I am talking and explaining that vote since its my role. K?

Titus · Post Post #575 (isolation #140) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:55 am

In post 572, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 556, Jeanne11 wrote:And since elderberries won't grow for a while, I am to share info that the wizard told me. The info is there is a scum role that can lock this thread and force votes to be cast by PMing. The wizard said that we need to vote either Elbirn or scum to prevent this villain from screwing us over.

Can we please stop spamming the thread with what is either complete fluff, or coded messages?

Because what was just said here is obviously really important.

-Cerb

Need 1-2 hours ish.

Titus · Post Post #576 (isolation #141) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:59 am

Jeanne/Suzune...need you to talk and answer me soon. Jeanne just accelerated the timetable.

Titus · Post Post #578 (isolation #142) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 6:05 am

Should have told me before bringing in the new farmhand.

We're going to do this my way for reactions.

Titus · Post Post #579 (isolation #143) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 6:12 am

I am an informed messaging townie that can send messages during the day. There are other methods of communicating outside the thread. The fruit is my method of communicating with my block to counteract an uber powerful anti-town role.

There is a role that makes all players vote within 24 hours by pm. It terminates the day after that. All votes are anonymous and cannot be detected by any means.

To counteract this role, we're voting Jeanne or LQ when this happens.

Titus · Post Post #585 (isolation #144) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 6:21 am

Apple, the strategist.

Titus · Post Post #586 (isolation #145) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 6:24 am

@RR, I am not viable in that setting. If I had said role as scum, the lat thing I would do is create a network to make said role ineffective.

Are you town reading both Jeanne and LQ?

Titus · Post Post #588 (isolation #146) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 6:26 am

In post 587, Jeanne11 wrote:Seems I got kicked from the farm. :/

You can't be kicked from the farm. O.o

Titus · Post Post #590 (isolation #147) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 6:29 am

In post 589, Jeanne11 wrote:Yes, but you said we're going to farm your way.

Yup. I took your input and play thread to generate that result.

I wanted to be uniform agreement but the thread would likely be closed since you outed part of my role. So I had to make an executive decision based on your input.

Titus · Post Post #592 (isolation #148) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 6:33 am

In post 591, Reasonably Rational wrote:I'm going to be at a convention today, so I'll be posting sporadically. This shit is really interesting but I can't respond to it all right now.

-Cerb

You can give a gut read on LQ and Jeanne though right?

Titus · Post Post #594 (isolation #149) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 6:36 am

In post 593, Jeanne11 wrote:Sorry, but I am really busy on Monday. If you're considerate, you would understand. :/

I am. You triggered the revelation which stopped the four from agreeing because any second now evil can lock. They will lock sooner than later. Names needed to be said.

Titus · Post Post #596 (isolation #150) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 6:40 am

In post 595, Jeanne11 wrote:Isn't the point to make them not agree? That way, the chances are higher to make the scum slip up.

You really were not clear on things. Just stop. You and LQ are the names. Trust me.

Titus · Post Post #601 (isolation #151) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 6:49 am

#579, answers everything.

Titus · Post Post #605 (isolation #152) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 7:02 am

In post 602, Jeanne11 wrote:Okay, I'll trust you. But don't drag the harvest out for too long, since I am busy on Monday. Really, I said it multiple times and you still want to do it on Monday.....?

Nah, plan's set. Harvest is today. Not thrilled but had no choice.

Read 579 if nothing else

Titus · Post Post #606 (isolation #153) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 7:02 am

In post 604, Jeanne11 wrote:Titus is our chief strategy farmer, so if you townread her, you should townread the three of us as well.

Boo. People can townread me but think I am wrong.

Titus · Post Post #608 (isolation #154) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 7:05 am

In post 607, Jeanne11 wrote:I read it. But it isn't kiwi or plum that we'll really harvest, is it? We'll harvest something else, right? We'll just make them think we're harvesting these.

Stop talking about the harvest. Plan is to vote scum not town. You are wierding me out.

Titus · Post Post #611 (isolation #155) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 7:10 am

In post 610, Jeanne11 wrote:@Titus Or am I? Seems like you're forgetting the plan we discussed at the table.......:/

I am the architect. I know. Just keep calm and be quiet.

Titus · Post Post #614 (isolation #156) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 7:15 am

@Jeanne, I wouldn't knowingly associate with scum. It's Day 1. I don't know all the scum. There's a chance I'm wrong.

Titus · Post Post #617 (isolation #157) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 7:28 am

Why are you acting as if I am Infallible?

Titus · Post Post #620 (isolation #158) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 7:37 am

You're acting as if I townreads someone they must be town; that I'm never wrong.

Titus · Post Post #621 (isolation #159) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 7:41 am

Yes, this Harvest will be fruitful.

Titus · Post Post #628 (isolation #160) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:14 am

Victory. Lol. Now to harvest the votes based on who thought they could get away with voting with the lights out. Heeeeee.

Not really an informed townie. Votes weren't really anonymous.

the thread lock was all me. The farm was designed to setup scum to vote a townie where they would have no accountability and the day would end.

VOTE: LQ

Titus · Post Post #629 (isolation #161) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:14 am

Wgeurts is also obvscum.

Titus · Post Post #634 (isolation #162) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:19 am

I unvoted in case LQ was town and scum attempted to hurry vote him.

@Elbrin, you can be upset with me but it's not like you exactly voted LQ.

I am voting LQ not because of his vote but because scum didn't vote him.

If LQ is town, scum must be present in Jeanne/Elbrin/Suzune.

The votes are also highly useful for VCA.

Titus · Post Post #639 (isolation #163) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:31 am

We know LQ must be scum or there's scum in the pseudo hood. If scum thought they could hammer a townie with no accountability, they would have hammerred LQ. They did not. So scum suspected that the anonymous vote and day end we're both lies, or LQ is scum.

The votes on me are scum motivated. RR gave an explanation for his vote and started to show up. BM and wgeurts did not. Wgerts said he favored LQ over Jeanne. Yet, his vote when the lights go out winds up on me. That's pretty damning for wgeurts.

Klingon votes ranger which is a bit of wtf.

Titus · Post Post #640 (isolation #164) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:33 am

In post 636, Elbirn wrote:And what reason would I have to vote lq? Gee it's almost like I did exactly what you said you did: didn't vote for lq or Jeanne because *I knew there would be a derp ass quick lynch if everyone had to choose between voting him or Jeanne*, and so I kept my vote on majick.

If lq is town then scum is....everyone you've been working with? And fucking WHY?

VOTE: Titus

This is bullshit I'm mad I'm going to bed

No scum would be in there not all of them. That's absurd.

I unvoted for the same reason. No fast hammer.

I wanted the flips and to discuss.

Titus · Post Post #641 (isolation #165) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:35 am

Oh and the dog is most likely town if it's owner claims today.

Titus · Post Post #642 (isolation #166) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:38 am

Oh we can also infer that either there's scum in the hood or none of the votes are bussing (weaker). If scum thought they'd get zero credit for bussing, they never would.

Titus · Post Post #643 (isolation #167) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:42 am

In post 581, wgeurts wrote:Then my votes on Jeanne.

Vote is on Jeanne? Funny, Jeanne is not spelled Titus.

Titus · Post Post #646 (isolation #168) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:46 am

In post 645, wgeurts wrote:
In post 629, Titus wrote:Wgeurts is also obvscum.

How?

Jeanne is not spelled Titus.

Titus · Post Post #650 (isolation #169) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:55 am

In post 647, wgeurts wrote:UNVOTE:
No it isn't I changed my mind for reasons that will become clear later and others I can give now.

Then you should. Fmpov, you got caught with your hand in the cookie jar.

Titus · Post Post #653 (isolation #170) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:04 am

In post 651, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 650, Titus wrote:
In post 647, wgeurts wrote:UNVOTE:
No it isn't I changed my mind for reasons that will become clear later and others I can give now.

Then you should. Fmpov, you got caught with your hand in the cookie jar.

If your point of view was what you claim it is, then you cannot draw that conclusion rationally. If you are really town, then scum would know they didn't trigger that situation and would cautiously know it was a trap. You are too smart to expect scum to get "caught" by what you claim was what happened. If you were being honest, you would be looking for scum among the people who were being careful because they knew they didn't cause the 24 hour thing and therefore they would know things weren't as you were implying.

Speaking of your implications and explications ... another post coming.

~Drixx

That's why I said anti-town and not scum.

Don't give me this too smart crap. You're acting really butt hurt. Scum wouldn't know the truth.

I get you weren't included but you hadn't shown signs of life.

This plan is the best use of my role.

Titus · Post Post #655 (isolation #171) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:09 am

In post 652, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 643, Titus wrote:
In post 581, wgeurts wrote:Then my votes on Jeanne.

Vote is on Jeanne? Funny, Jeanne is not spelled Titus.

Damn that's a really scummy move and
REALLY
scummy post here, Titus. That series of posts by you before the look made it seem like there was only two people to vote for prior to that thing triggering, with all that encoded posts bullshit you were doing in the thread. Just because you have an interesting role doesn't give you the right to lie about a bunch of stuff. Too much manipulation on your part when the first thing you do is make a scummy push based upon a super reasonable vote against you.

Can't believe you intentionally gave the impression that the 24 hour thing would be essentially a private gladiate between Jeanne and LQ, and you made it super clear to everyone that your view was Jeanne was town and so everyone should vote LQ, and then pretend like it's scummy that people didn't trust you when they realized your implications and posts were misleading and/or outright lies. You were so successful at pushing that idea that I actually thought that was real. I thought we were restricted between voting one of those two until I asked Cerb to check with Varsoon about whether it was a normal lynch rules or just whichever of them got the most votes, and Cerb came back and told me we could vote anyone.

That's when I said we should vote you. You clearly were behind the whole thing and you intentionally misled the game on several fronts. What we're seeing isn't town Titus.

If wguerts also thought he had to choose between Jeanne and LQ, and then (like us) realized during the 24 hour period that he could vote for anyone, then you are the logical person to vote for Titus, given that you have repeatedly lied to the game and clearly tried to manipulate us into a false understanding of what was going on for an agenda that seems to have zero town motivation.

If wguerts' reasoning for voting is the same as ours, then we're with him in that.

I expect one hell of a response from you if you expect us to change our mind. I think wguerts is letting you off the hook way too easily Titus.

Irritated by Shenanigans,
Drixx

If you read my post, I said town had to vote that way to counter scum. It was not a gladiate. At all. I am not to be blamed because you're pissed and can't do reading comprehension when pissed.

Second, I was more concerned with what scum would do. Active smart town vote LQ. Active dumb town vote Jeanne (hence the dog). Scum vote Jeanne or stay out of the box. That's what I expected if LQ scum and no scum in Jeanne Elbrin Suzune.

Titus · Post Post #658 (isolation #172) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:12 am

In post 657, Jeanne11 wrote:So I am the dog? Nice. I love dogs.

No, I am saying Bright's owner is likely dumb town.

Titus · Post Post #662 (isolation #173) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:19 am

Klingon's Ranger vote also needs to be explained.

Scum think it's a trap, they all rebel and no vote. They wouldn't have any reason to think it's a trap. You can throw a lot of words out, but unless someone told them, they would have no idea. Even if they did, what scum thinks MASS ANONYMOUS VOTING THAT ENDS THE DAY is town? They think SK.

You also read it as a gladiate which tells me you failed to comprehend posts. A rally cry is not a gladiate.

Nope, scum act like wgeurts. Please read posts. Ty.

Titus · Post Post #667 (isolation #174) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:25 am

In post 663, wgeurts wrote:
In post 662, Titus wrote:Klingon's Ranger vote also needs to be explained.

Scum think it's a trap, they all rebel and no vote. They wouldn't have any reason to think it's a trap. You can throw a lot of words out, but unless someone told them, they would have no idea. Even if they did, what scum thinks MASS ANONYMOUS VOTING THAT ENDS THE DAY is town? They think SK.

You also read it as a gladiate which tells me you failed to comprehend posts. A rally cry is not a gladiate.

Nope, scum act like wgeurts. Please read posts. Ty.

It felt it was a trap but done by scum?
Why not vise-versa?

Why would scum trigger anonymous voting D1? Or mass end day? Both?

Did you run this down? It's wrong but still should have lead you to vote LQ.

Titus · Post Post #668 (isolation #175) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:26 am

In post 666, wgeurts wrote:Also titus, will you put in your sig "I can't read wgeurts, you should read him the opposite of what I do" for a month if I'm town?
As so far you've never done it right.

This bet is not allowed.

Titus · Post Post #669 (isolation #176) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:27 am

In post 665, Reasonably Rational wrote:The very fact that I read all that lead up to the thread lock and took your word that you were informed and we would need to vote between Jeanne and LQ should tell you that you were fairly successful at planting that false dichotomy. Obviously we realized it wasn't actually the only choices, but you cannot deny that you did your very best to set it up to look like only two choices.

Two choices for town to counter scum.

You even hinted.. Why not vote you? I said I wouldn't be viable.

So, what's your thought on LQ?

Titus · Post Post #670 (isolation #177) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:28 am

And Klingon?

Titus · Post Post #672 (isolation #178) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:29 am

Wgeurts, vote LQ. He's scum.

Titus · Post Post #673 (isolation #179) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:29 am

In post 671, Jeanne11 wrote:VOTE: wgeurts

The fact is that only scum would say that they cannot be read.

#farmers ftw

This is wrong. I am hard to read frequently.

Titus · Post Post #674 (isolation #180) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:30 am

Jeanne, if you proxy to me vote LQ.

Titus · Post Post #680 (isolation #181) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:37 am

In post 675, wgeurts wrote:How do you know?
Make a case, convince me. Anyone can say someone's scum, however I'm town reading him so you'll have to convinve me otherwise.

You're probably LQ's buddy but let's humor you and say you're not.

LQ rolefishes Jeanne and I.
LQ flails.
You can check the ISO of those voting LQ if my thoughts aren't persuasive. I am not the best charismatically occasionally as town.

Then you get to the gambit. [Below is paraphrase]

LQ, what happened?
Refers LQ to 579.
Thread locks.
Scum don't hop on LQ.
LQ says what happened?

Scum are given a free pass to vote LQ and they don't. Why?

Titus · Post Post #688 (isolation #182) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:49 am

In post 683, Suzune wrote:
In post 626, Jeanne11 wrote:So......what do the farmers say?

You reap what you sow. You pushed the plan too fast and we reaped no harvest. Simple as that.

I find myself agreeing with Reasonably Rational simply because if you wanted to discover scum through a potential quick hammer the votes would have to have been closer that someone would have wanted to make the risk to kill a townie. That would mean one of them would have to sacrifice themselves for the team. Therefore, since it was still so open and opinions were really divided at the point of the lock. It makes me wonder what was supposed to happen. I understood what was supposed to happen but I do not think that did happen here. It was too early, the plan jumped the gun.

If LQ is town, I'd disagree.

Jeanne's response told volumes. I set her against LQ for a reason. Jeanne is all buddy buddy with me, but freaks out when I pair her against LQ and starts blathering about the intent in the thread. She's all, trust no one. Yet she explicitly trusts me. (Starting with 400, there's a clear pattern of buddying me).

The plan was triggered early because Jeanne triggered it early, despite having clear instructions that Elbrin or I would trigger. She made no reference to being unavailable on Monday. She didn't communicate effectively with Suzune regarding the early trigger.

She also used a rot13 code earlier which can be cracked. The gibberish had to cover that. If you used a code, a legend is absolutely required.

It gave me doubts.

Titus · Post Post #690 (isolation #183) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:50 am

Plus Elbrin wasn't going to have enough support to be a viable lynch.

Titus · Post Post #693 (isolation #184) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:51 am

In post 689, wgeurts wrote:Fudge these english errors, I'm going to my PC

Also titus, what does elibern have to do with this?

Elbrin was going to be the townie scum were to jump on. He was too obvtown though.

Titus · Post Post #696 (isolation #185) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:54 am

People were yelling we were masons, there's not a chance anyone would think Elbrin would get the votes, wasting the test.

Titus · Post Post #698 (isolation #186) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:56 am

In post 695, Suzune wrote:
In post 687, wgeurts wrote:Why would scum use it know?
Idk?
Because that's what town would do if they had the role to look town?
This kind of reasoning is kind of strange. Does scum not use all roles because they would think that townies would use it that way. I am uncertain that you can claim that that an action is scummy because scum would use it in that way to be townie.

Scum wouldn't use it D1 unless to interrupt a powerful D1 chain. They wouldn't let town know about it, strategize with town for the best use of the role, when optimal use is to wait, chaos chaos and not tell town to fast hammer.

Titus · Post Post #699 (isolation #187) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:57 am

Drixx, you did rolefish in that game. LQ was rolefishing Jeanne and I had a hood and could talk.

Titus · Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:00 am

In post 700, Jeanne11 wrote:@Drixx ur a lolcow, and a scum one at that. That is all.

I am doubting RR is scum now that they've come to play. Drixx is every bit as bitter as he was in Playtest.

Titus · Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:02 am

Jeanne, tell me your reads privately. This is a test to see whether I vote you. I am thinking you're scum and altered your buddies to the plan.

Titus · Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:03 am

In post 702, Suzune wrote:
In post 691, Jeanne11 wrote:Well, you're scum with wgeurts and LQ then and the three of you are trying to trick us.
Who is, I'm confused. Why are you so upset? who is scum with who?

@Titus, it is kind of a on again off again mason. I had one of these in another game, we called the ability "the cook"

p-edit titus, No you are incorrect. On another site I have a role created to be used there call "The Hacker". The hacker has the power to hack the vote count. Since we do not play with hammers there whoever has the most votes at the end is the one who gets lynched, so that hacker and replace the votecount with one from an earlier point of the phase changing the lynch target. This is a scum role and most scum use it early because it messes with who the town thinks is mafia and scum because everyone wants to know who they were saving. So I would say using it early has its advantages. Pushing the phase early easpecially when we wanted to use it for townie purposes makes those who were doing the initial planning look like scum. So one could argue it was used correctly.

Links?

Titus · Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:08 am

VOTE: Jeanne11

Wrong answer in thread.

Titus · Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:10 am

In post 707, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 699, Titus wrote:Drixx, you did rolefish in that game. LQ was rolefishing Jeanne and I had a hood and could talk.

See? There's no arguing with her.

She knows objectively now that I was town that game. One can clearly look at my posts in that game and see me being super careful to note that I didn't want anyone to claim but that I did think it was important for town to realize something strange was up with the votes.

The worst part is that someone else (who was a townie also) had already not only outed the extra vote, but had outed who it was.

So even knowing that I was town, and even having my posts which she now knows were coming from town and therefore she can trust them to be honest and town motivated, and even with those posts being me BEGGING for nobody to claim based upon my posts, she
still
, MONTHS LATER, is insisting that I was role fishing when all the evidence is contrary.

So seriously ... just don't get into it with her. There's zero upside to it.

Purely Exasperated,
Drixx

Town rolefish. Asking questions about roles is rolefishing. Facts don't change with time.

Now, you want to actually look at the case I made on Jeanne or wallow in the past?

Titus · Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:20 am

In post 712, Reasonably Rational wrote:Sorry but when someone is town and says they don't want the person with the role to claim and they don't want to know who has the role, they can't possibly be fishing for someone's role.

What do I think about the Jeanne thing? I think she appears scummy in several posts, but I also think it seems super convenient that she and you started having a back and forth show right when I was pressuring you and you decided to stop responding to my pressure. I will have to re-evaluate later tonight as I'm out of time now.

Love,
Drixx

Not discussing that past game with you but yes you did want a claim.

Nah, look at the reaction from Jeanne when she was paired with LQ.
Look at her trust no one post. That's what snapped me. Her excessive buddying pinged me back after 400.

Titus · Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:23 am

In post 714, Jeanne11 wrote:Well, after you and Shiro fooled me, it's perfectly reasonable thing. I am not going to be fooled twice just because you want me to trust you blindly.

Really??

Titus · Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:32 am

Spoiler: Jeanne's buddying/not wanting to be lynched

So much excessive pushing of the town block for trust no one.

Titus · Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:38 am

In post 718, Suzune wrote:I concerns me that Titus and I are on the same page. I feel like that never happens...

I almost never have a town pm with you. Lols. Even then you have all information I do (minus first message to Elbrin) so...

Titus · Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:38 am

Suzune, vote Jeanne with me?

Titus · Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:07 am

In post 728, Jeanne11 wrote:I even told her at the end of last game I will not trust anybody and she still insists that I should trust her or else she'll scumread me. I think she's taking advantage of my naivety again to play me like a fiddle.

Show where I said that. That's just wrong.

Titus · Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:00 pm

@Jeanne, Misreps are obvious.

@BM, Because I am obvtown.

Why did you believe that I was ending the day without ability to lynch? That's a stretch.

As I said, Messenger + Can cause 24 hour period where votes must be pmmed to the mod.

The anonymous/end the day/anti-town was all faked to try and get scum to anonymously vote town.