Micro 566: WORD SNEAK MAFIA! (Game OvER!!!)

[Davsto]

Aeronaut has given me a

wonderful

set of words.

VOTE: Aeronaut

[Davsto]

VOTE: Davsto

For wasting your vote on a non-player. You're hurting town, buddy.

What are you, a Thor alt?

[Davsto]

VOTE: TMWSTW

This isn't an RVS vote.

What is it then, a cabbage?

[Davsto]

I don't know, some of mine will be rather bum-shakingly obvious.

[Davsto]

(Voting for the Mod will count as Not Voting.)

:c

[Davsto]

The problem with word sneak is that we have to subtly try to hide words like antidisestablishmentarianism.

[Davsto]

Wednesday. Basically all gut. Something about their move from TMWSTW from Postie looks iffy.

[Davsto]

Wednesday. Basically all gut. Something about their move from TMWSTW from Postie looks iffy.

"Basically all gut" is that refering to me or you?

The read is based on gut.

I have a penchant for being slow early on, with the magnitude of "early on" being quite variable, but a read at this point in the game is worth teeny tiny amounts.

[Davsto]

Damn you're prompt with your prods

Didn't even realise I was close to proddage in this one

[Davsto]

Who is mgsv?

It's TMWSTW because his avatar is from that game.

Will check over what little of lilac's ISO there is and see.

[Davsto]

VOTE: Davsto

For wasting your vote on a non-player. You're hurting town, buddy.

Yeh... a "random" vote? This doesn't look that random to me at all, really.

@Aeronaut how do sneak words work for the scums? Will they be able to discuss them at night?

I mean on one hand it's not a question scum would need to ask in public but on the other hand it's the kind of question that scum would ask in public to make themselves seem like they don't know anything.

[Davsto]

@mod

- what happens if you fail to work all 5 words into your posts in a day?

[Davsto]

Ahh, okay.

[Davsto]

@davsto why so worried about the words/minigame?

Because I don't really want scum to get a double vote.

[Davsto]

@Davsto, what are your thoughts on lilac? I believe you have yet to weigh in on her 144.

Not a huge fan. 144 reads more like trying to put shade on loads of people than actually investigate things.

[Davsto]

Newbtown vs Newbscum is what's to be considered here.

Between who? If you're saying lilac then what they have a joindate of 2011

[Davsto]

Davsto usually obvtowns himself pretty quickly

Whether or not I turn up obvtown is really variable. But even if I did, you've only played 1 (2?) game with me, how do you "know" that I obvtown myself?

Not a fan of this post, at all.

[Davsto]

EBWOP: how would you know

[Davsto]

Just to clarify, all of my townreads are based on the assumption that I've correctly identified the scum team. They collectively have more arguments against you guys than any of you have amongst yourselves.

This is scummy

VOTE: lilac

Allows her, if her scumreads *somehow* flip town, to backtrack and start on her townreads. I really, seriously don't like that.

Yaaaaaas, this is L-1, please don't hammer though because I doubt everyone has managed to sneak their worms in.

[Davsto]

K after that latest post I'm thinking town on lilac and I'm pretty baffled at how confident some of you are that she's scum. That Postie vote makes no sense coming from scum, would expect her to vote lilith there.

Lilith you think she's probably town by virtue of the pressure on her, why aren't you pushing on those people? What are your reads on Wednesday and FA?

And why would Davsto single out Postie for one line in all of her posts when the rest of it is very town-looking? Reminds me of Smash Bros mafia where I offhandedly made a lazy meta comment as town and scum!Davsto harped on it for a while. Like is it not possible that Postie reads games that she's not in?

My play in general does lean on catching on to little things, at least this early (see Newbie 1645 and my push on Gimlear for the most egregious example )

[Davsto]

And why would Davsto single out Postie for one line in all of her posts when the rest of it is very town-looking?

I don't like how you've worded this. All I said was

Not a fan of this post

and yet you seem to act like I am scumreading Postie.

[Davsto]

If you're not scumreading her then why call out that post?

Because... it's a post I didn't like that bugged me?

Like I don't know what you're expecting the answer to be

[Davsto]

I never said it didn't say anything about her alignment

But it means I'm more null than townreading her right now

Also it was a question to start discussion because discussion is good especially when the deadline is in 3 days and the game has less than 10 pages

[Davsto]

That's lilac at L-1, by the way.

[Davsto]

Deadline is coming to a close, I recommend we get lilac to claim and then someone hammers because there's a fairly good chance of that flipping scum.

Gosh, I feel like a token white-guy in this game.

Don't know why.

[Davsto]

How the fuck am I supposed to work that in though

it'd be like fitting a horse into a blender

Tesco's though amirite

[Davsto]

"A musical timing of 1/64."

[Davsto]

^you and your American music timings

[Davsto]

Leaning town on you and TMWSTW

Something about vandergeist/Wednesday is off but I wouldn't put either of them as anything other than null.

lilith null

I can see FA scum

[Davsto]

@mod - can we get a deadline extension because replacement? Thanks~

[Davsto]

Lilac hasn't responded to her prod, so I'm going to begin the search for a replacement. Tell your friends!

gj

thx

[Davsto]

oops thought you said lilith there

[Davsto]

I might be fine with a Wednesday lynch to let lilac's replacement catch up and shit

Reminder to self to read Wednesday's ISO tomorrow to have a better idea

[Davsto]

Ehhh

Wednesday ain't that scummy

Me prefer lilac lynch methinks

@mod

- if a player would win the Word Sneak guessing and get the double vote, but they are nightkilled, does the next best player get the double vote or does it go?

[Davsto]

I have the sudden urge to vote Wednesday.

[Davsto]

There is literally no reason to wait for a claim. We're just interested in the possibility she could be the cop, right? But if Wednesday claims cop, and she's actually the cop and we keep her alive, she'll be nightkilled. If Wednesday claims cop, and she's not the cop and the real cop counterclaims, they get nightkilled. Either way we lose our cop.
There's no point.

Only if you think of it in pure numbers

However

If we lynch Wednesday and they're the Cop, then scum will nightkill their preferred player. Result: dead Cop, dead player of scum's choosing.
If we make Wednesday claim and they're Cop, then scum is basically forced to nightkill Wednesday and we can lynch elsewhere. Result: dead Cop, dead player of town's choosing.

Little things make difference.

[Davsto]

Basically what I'm saying is Wednesday please claim thanks

[Davsto]

Basically what I'm saying is Wednesday please claim thanks

I'm not claiming. I'm taking it with me.

alright

it's your funeral

VOTE: Wednesday

[Davsto]

If Wednesday is regular town I'll be annoyed but understand the lack of a claim.

If Wednesday is Cop I swear that I'll have a go at them considering I

literally just explained

why the Cop claiming is superior to the Cop being lynched.

Any last reads, Wed?

[Davsto]

I assume you can still put them in in twilight.

Hurry. One less town player being able to get the double vote makes it statistically more likely for scum to get it.

[Davsto]

Why would scum refuse to claim?

In the hope people might assume it's a Cop claim and back off?

Also I didn't realise droog had unvoted.

Happy with a Wednesday lynch regardless, particularly with so little time to deadline.

[Davsto]

lol postie is last scum gg

VOTE: Postie

Cop here

[Davsto]

Thanks for the game Aero, it was fun albeit short, and Postie, well played - had I not been a Cop, I probably wouldn't have considered lynching you for a while. As it was, there were one or two things that bugged me, and thus I decided to investigate.

[Davsto]

I can't really put it down to a single post, but something didn't seem quite... right? Basically gut, like with Wednesday earlier on.

Plus, Postie is apparently

really

good as scum and I thought it'd be easier to just get that out of the way.

[Davsto]

That's a hammer, right?

Well played, Davsto; that aggressively-pushing-for-the-cop-to-counterclaim thing had me convinced you weren't the cop. Otherwise I'd likely have shot you.

That was the aim

Plus, Postie is apparently

really

good as scum and I thought it'd be easier to just get that out of the way.

lol where did you hear this? I figured I'd be screwed in any game with a cop if my last scum game got out, but I thought I was safe here because I didn't think you guys had seen it.

I think people attempted to nominate you for best scumplay in the Scummies before realising it was a Body of Work award rather than single game.

Can we take Davsto and put him in 558?

Wut?

[Davsto]

I'll be honest, I was a little sad when Dave inspected Postie because that's when I knew that the DV wouldn't even matter this game. Oh well.

I knew I got a guilty because I saw you sign up to mod Word Sneak 2

But yeh, the concept was good and it would work better if it lasted a little longer so the vote actually meant something.

[Davsto]

But can you put everyone's words in a list on the next day so I can know how well I personally did?

Seconded

[Davsto]

By the way my words were

Aeronaut (easy)
Scummy (easy)
Yaaaaaaas (hard for me)
Thor (quite hard)
Token white-guy (I almost felt racist working this one in)

[Davsto]

That guy who died on the boat in Jaws… you know, not Quint, but the other one…, like the one that they found his body and the red haired doctor guy is like "Woah, WTF"

"word"

[Davsto]

Can we take Davsto and put him in 558?

Seriously though I'm slightly confused by this statement

[Davsto]

Dave was in last with 6. Sorry Dave!

yeh but I won the game

I originally planned to work on it during the day

And then I just gave up and skimread it and hoped for the best

[Davsto]

Believe me, I was seriously considering not Copping you, it was the same situation within which I'd Cop another player - the kind of player where it's useful whatever the result is (i.e. I'm worried you're scum enough - even a tiny feeling - that an innocent result would help, but I'm not so convinced that you're scum that a guilty result would basically be useless).

[Davsto]

well it's definitely not Davsto

That kinda play is my jam though

I was genuinely considering not trying at all for the double vote so that I wouldn't look like a good target (because scum getting a double vote in lylo is basically a win).

[Davsto]

See I have a problem

I want to cut down on the number of games because it noticeably improves my town game

But my scum game is equally mediocre however many games I'm playing, and the fewer games I play, the more likely I am to be scum in all games I'm alive in, and I hate being scum.

I play Mafia to be Town

[Davsto]

I think he means I was last place of all people who actually attempted to guess.

[Davsto]

But yeh don't fret about being checked by a Cop

I'm one of the few players in this game who would have checked you at this point.

[Davsto]

...Scum PT please?