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Post Post #161 (isolation #0) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:21 am

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oh thank god im town lmao

ok so i read this thread as soon as i PM'd kirroha saying I'd replace in since I figured it's only 7 pages so not much lost even if she does have someone else already.

VOTE: itlepip

I can't believe there aren't any other votes on this. Suzune is blatant town and his push on her is utter crap. He's frustrated scum because he thought he could force through a mislynch with the "slip" which wasn't at all a slip and then when the wagon dissipated you can see him pout about it here:
In post 84, itlepip wrote:Like I am 100% confident that suzune is scum here and I am not willing to change my vote. If you guys want to mess around and use our mislynch first before ending the game I don't care, but I see no reason to ever vote anywhere else than the obvious outed mafia. Someone being able to backtrack doesn't mean that what they said originally should be forgiven. "I claim cop" oops I meant medic sorry guys my bad!
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Post Post #162 (isolation #1) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:24 am

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but then i read the guy i was replacing and was like "oh frick i might be scum with itle oh goddamn that'll suck since i already have a genuine read but won't be able to safely use it"

Suzune's thing wasn't a slip btw. She blatantly misunderstood the game and was never claiming lover; she was suggesting she was the unknowing target of a lover (from what I understand)? If she was scum she would've actually understood the role mechanics so I'm like positive that was a townslip since it was so damn genuine
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Post Post #163 (isolation #2) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:25 am

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forcing on a fake "slip" is like classic scumplay 101. this game is in the bag. no clue who itlepip's partner is but honestly don't care.
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Post Post #165 (isolation #3) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:13 am

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You're blatantly misinterpreting this quote and I won't stand for it.

In post 26, Suzune wrote:Well it would be easy to catch them if you were scum. Careful that puts me at L-2, it would not be wise to speed lynch. Typically speaking I end up with a mafia lover more often then not, assuming we are playing the same way my little group does on skype. Where the mafia is paired with a random townie. However, I would not like to rush lynch because too lucky kills a townie and a mafia could end the game for us.
In the version of the game she knows, the mafia lovers are given a random town target who are unaware they're a target. All she was saying was that she's often that random town. She said nothing to the effect of "my role PM says I am/have a lover".
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Post Post #167 (isolation #4) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:15 am

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Sure. Then get itlepip tomorrow because I'm that freaking sure I solved this game on just one read through.
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Post Post #168 (isolation #5) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:16 am

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The "thank god I'm town" thing was because I was positive I knew scum while reading this thread before I knew my alignment. So if I ended up being scum with him I was going to be really disappointed.
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Post Post #171 (isolation #6) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:25 am

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I think itlepip thought lynching Suzune was going to be way easier and then when the wagon dissipated wasn't sure what to do so he just sat on it and pouted, knowing the vote wasn't actually gonna happen and wanting to seem "genuine" by not switching off.
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Post Post #173 (isolation #7) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:29 am

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like, ur working under the assumption that scum will be very careful but if that's what you think then shouldn't scum do the exact opposite? lmao.

p-edit: like I said I don't especially care since we only need to find one scum but gimmie a bit and I'll read in those two.
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Post Post #178 (isolation #8) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:38 am

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In post 52, Maestro wrote:
In post 50, itlepip wrote:That doesn't answer the question why are you certain that Suzune is a mislynch? You are doing the exact thing you are accusing SS of by preparing a lynch tomorrow of SS assuming Suzune is a miss WHICH SHE ISN'T!

Stop preparing a lynch tomorrow if you think suzune just slipped. I agree that in a normal game connection can be drawn between Suzune and SS but not in a game where the first scum lynch just ends the fricken game.

Pedit: Holy shit dude. Scratch what I said about Suzune/SS I'm pretty sure its you and suzune given how hard you are doubtcasting that lynch.

I never said I was certain and I wasn't doubtcasting. I thought Smart was correct when he said "the only way for [Suzune] to be town is if [she] either horribly misread your role pm or [is] completely trolling" but look back at her ISO. She never claimed Lover.
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. He wants us to think she did. I'm not preparing anything, I'm fully not supporting this lynch anymore.

The connection isn't between SS and Suz, it's between SS and FS. The quick defense coupled with the quick deflection onto Suz after one of her early posts, then a slight misrep on somebody who didn't read the setup or their Role PM correctly and you've got an easy D1 ML. Suz looks like a newb after her posts, but not Scum. Scum don't react with and , not in my experience.

The wiki says Scum have Daytalk here. They know the first Scum lynch is their loss. They would be coaching the fuck out of one another THIS WHOLE TIME and you think there's ANY chance that Suzune somehow misread her Role PM, and her PT OP, and that her partner didn't clarify that they were the only Lovers? There's no fucking way it's this easy. Tell me I'm wrong, I dare you.
Maestro is town. No reason to back off this almost confirmed mislynch as scum.
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Post Post #180 (isolation #9) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:39 am

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In post 49, Maestro wrote:UNVOTE:

I'm making myself paranoid. Hold on a moment.
Meant to quote this as well.
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Post Post #181 (isolation #10) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:41 am

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In post 177, itlepip wrote:Nahdia, who the hell is my partner, cause this game feels like I've been talking to fricken walls.
chilledtea or Fire Starter. from what i've seen so far I'd probably lean towards the latter.
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Post Post #185 (isolation #11) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:47 am

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Nah I'd rather we lynched itlepip today. That's okay though, chilledtea my pal. I appreciate the extremely transparent effort to defend your partner.
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Post Post #186 (isolation #12) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:47 am

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chilledtea + itlepip GG
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Post Post #188 (isolation #13) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:50 am

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Ok then vote him.
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Post Post #195 (isolation #14) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:02 am

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ITT: desperate distancing
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Post Post #200 (isolation #15) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:09 am

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@Maestro

OK

VOTE: chilledtea
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Post Post #204 (isolation #16) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:13 am

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this game owns
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Post Post #205 (isolation #17) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:15 am

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chilledtea's vote on itlepip was opportunistic as heck considering they were saying they townread them and scumread my slot like 5 posts prior lol. and the selfvote isn't convincing at all.
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Post Post #210 (isolation #18) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:19 am

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Maestro wrote:
In post 205, Nahdia wrote:chilledtea's vote on itlepip was opportunistic as heck considering they were saying they townread them and scumread my slot like 5 posts prior lol.

This is another fucking strike against itlepip being Scum, dude. Are you reading your own posts?
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Post Post #216 (isolation #19) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:24 am

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why is Maestro scum?
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Post Post #219 (isolation #20) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:28 am

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well then maybe you should stop self-voting friend.
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Post Post #220 (isolation #21) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:30 am

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self-voting can arguably be used to gather reactions, which you just did. so now you have no reason to self-vote. so stop.
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Post Post #222 (isolation #22) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:37 am

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hey guys let's lynch Fire Starter
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Post Post #225 (isolation #23) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:41 am

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People who are not pairs:

Myself + Anyone bc I'm town
itlepip + Maestro
itlepip + Suzune
chilledtea + Suzune
Maestro + chilledtea

Fire Starter can be partners with p much anyone let's lynch 'em
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Post Post #226 (isolation #24) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:45 am

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chilledtea if Maestro is scum, why did he derail the Suzune wagon?
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Post Post #229 (isolation #25) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:57 am

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Interesting. I didn't expect that angle from you. So you think that Maestro essentially whiteknighted Suzune. Possible; but considering just how convinced people were of the slip, I'm not sure a scum would feel the need to do that. Gaining some towncred is a much lower priority than pushing through a mislynch and with only 6 people in the game, Maestro's doubtcasting was pretty much guaranteed to kill the wagon.
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Post Post #230 (isolation #26) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:59 am

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I can't pretend to know Maestro's mindset though. It's possible he really did just want those sweet sweet townpoints.

The other solution, the one I sort of expected you to go for, is that Suzune is his partner.
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Post Post #232 (isolation #27) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:03 am

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Spoiler: Suzune
In post 107, Suzune wrote:Anyone else notice that maestro just stopped talking. Perhaps I am expecting too much but he was super active demanding things of people and th minute everyone starts suggesting he could be scum, he disappears. Anyone else notice?

In post 112, Suzune wrote:It was just something I noticed. You were making me paranoid

In post 151, Suzune wrote:Sorry, I am at a work meeting this week. I thought I would have time between the two meeting but alas, it was not to be. There are a couple of things that I have noticed that I would like to comment on.

In post 148, Maestro wrote:This is what checking meta is for, specifically relatively-recent meta:

Stream-of-consciousness
Now, I know that I am in the minority but I am not a huge fan of using meta to figure out whether someone is playing their usual way. It is silly because anyone can both work their meta into both their town and scum games. It is not really very difficult. Also if people tell you what worked and what did not you can easily make an adjustment. So even if they are able to show this from their meta, it means nothing really. It is just a space filler to look busy.

In post 140, Maestro wrote:Posting words =/= being an active participant, IMO. You not understanding this concerns me. "You don't say a whole lot about much of anything when you do post" - that's what I'm getting at.
Neither do a lot of people in this game, but you seem to enjoy pointing out my faults and beat me down to everyone. Do not think I have not noticed.

In post 152, Suzune wrote:I think at this point I would like to vote this way:

VOTE: Maestro

There is a strong case to be made for this, but the tone change in posting style really pings me.
these posts don't appear as distancing to me. I'm doubtful Maestro and Suzune are partners.

@itlepip I'm bouncing ideas around. I thought you were scum, but then a bunch of other people said a bunch of other things. Who knows!
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Post Post #234 (isolation #28) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:05 am

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Four people are required to push through a lynch. Maestro may have looked bad coming out of a Suzune townflip, but so would three others.
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Post Post #237 (isolation #29) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:10 am

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UNVOTE:

itlepip, who else would you be willing to lynch today?
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Post Post #241 (isolation #30) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:37 am

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Well yes, if he's your partner then it's obvious why he derailed it. But I don't think he's your partner and I also don't think you're scum at all.
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Post Post #258 (isolation #31) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:40 am

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In post 249, chilledtea wrote:Okay, ignoring the "buddying" nonsense, I feel like itlepip is town. I went through his ISO once again.

I think that Maestro + Suzzune is the likely team. Suzzune giving up and apologising to the town is the only thing that is making me unsure of her. Which brings to a good question asked by Nahdia (why would Maestro defend suzzune).

Nahdia, apart from possible teams PoE, why do you want to lynch firestarter?

I would also like to hear from firestarter. And itlepip's case. That is very important.

So. Fire Starter lynch? Yes?
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Post Post #259 (isolation #32) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:43 am

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In post 249, chilledtea wrote:Okay, ignoring the "buddying" nonsense, I feel like itlepip is town. I went through his ISO once again.

I think that Maestro + Suzzune is the likely team. Suzzune giving up and apologising to the town is the only thing that is making me unsure of her. Which brings to a good question asked by Nahdia (why would Maestro defend suzzune).

Nahdia, apart from possible teams PoE, why do you want to lynch firestarter?

I would also like to hear from firestarter. And itlepip's case. That is very important.

whops didn't mean to quote that. but since I did; Maestro and Suzune aren't a team.
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Post Post #261 (isolation #33) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:00 am

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In post 232, Nahdia wrote:
Spoiler: Suzune
In post 107, Suzune wrote:Anyone else notice that maestro just stopped talking. Perhaps I am expecting too much but he was super active demanding things of people and th minute everyone starts suggesting he could be scum, he disappears. Anyone else notice?

In post 112, Suzune wrote:It was just something I noticed. You were making me paranoid

In post 151, Suzune wrote:Sorry, I am at a work meeting this week. I thought I would have time between the two meeting but alas, it was not to be. There are a couple of things that I have noticed that I would like to comment on.

In post 148, Maestro wrote:This is what checking meta is for, specifically relatively-recent meta:

Stream-of-consciousness
Now, I know that I am in the minority but I am not a huge fan of using meta to figure out whether someone is playing their usual way. It is silly because anyone can both work their meta into both their town and scum games. It is not really very difficult. Also if people tell you what worked and what did not you can easily make an adjustment. So even if they are able to show this from their meta, it means nothing really. It is just a space filler to look busy.

In post 140, Maestro wrote:Posting words =/= being an active participant, IMO. You not understanding this concerns me. "You don't say a whole lot about much of anything when you do post" - that's what I'm getting at.
Neither do a lot of people in this game, but you seem to enjoy pointing out my faults and beat me down to everyone. Do not think I have not noticed.

In post 152, Suzune wrote:I think at this point I would like to vote this way:

VOTE: Maestro

There is a strong case to be made for this, but the tone change in posting style really pings me.
these posts don't appear as distancing to me. I'm doubtful Maestro and Suzune are partners.
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Post Post #262 (isolation #34) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:02 am

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also just, Suzune is really really towny
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Post Post #271 (isolation #35) » Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:17 am

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VOTE: Fire Starter

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Post Post #272 (isolation #36) » Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:18 am

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I'm voting either this or I guess maybe chilledtea
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Post Post #276 (isolation #37) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:55 am

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Hey guys. Vote Fire Starter please. If you're not gonna post then you probably just don't care, and if you don't care you may as well vote Fire Starter.
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Post Post #277 (isolation #38) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:55 am

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I will also accept votes on chilledtea or maybe itlepip. Maybe.
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Post Post #278 (isolation #39) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 10:04 am

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We need progress. Everyone report in and list everyone else and state whether you'd be willing to lynch them or not. Reasons are not required but you may give them if you feel so inclined.

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Post Post #281 (isolation #40) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 10:54 am

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Suzune/Maestro/Fire Starter please report in!!!!!!!
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Post Post #283 (isolation #41) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 3:37 pm

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Been 3 and a half days since we've heard from Fire Starter. Has a prod gone out?
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Post Post #285 (isolation #42) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 6:18 am

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We've got two days!!!

Hey, this is a nightless game.
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Post Post #286 (isolation #43) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 6:20 am

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I want to hear Maestro's thoughts and if he's OK with chilledtea, then we have a decent consensus on them. no major objection to Fire Starter either.
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Post Post #287 (isolation #44) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 6:25 am

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But what worries me about chilledtea is... he said he's only willing to lynch the other people i scumread. if he's scum, who is his partner..? he voted Fire Starter, so likely not them unless he's playin' dangerously. itlepip made a big case on them... Maestro was voting him at L-1 and didn't unvote. which only leaves Suzune????? but i think she's town?????????

i mean maybe it's a chilledtea Fire Bringer team. that could be a thing! chilledtea did only vote him with 1 other vote on him but... eeh.
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Post Post #288 (isolation #45) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 6:27 am

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boy howdy this game is complex... maybe im underestimating the risks scum will take to distance. i probably am.
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Post Post #289 (isolation #46) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 6:30 am

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actually if Firebringer isn't scum I think a itlepip + chilledtea team is quite possible. itlepip did make his big case on chilledtea but never really followed it up with a push and there was that one point in the game on page 8 that there was some weird interaction with them while i was pushing itlepip. HMMMMMMMMM............

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Post Post #290 (isolation #47) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 6:30 am

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whoops Fire Starter* not Firebringer lol
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Post Post #293 (isolation #48) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 6:41 am

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I'm rereading the early pages... i think that read i made about itlepip trying to force on a slip actually applies equally to Something_Smart. it's really unfortunate he had to replace out just as the push was on it's final breathes since that would have been the ideal time to read him.

though i did feel some potential partnership between itlepip and chilledtea, I don't get any of those vibes from Something_Smart and itlepip. they're doing the exact same thing, early on, doesn't seem like a team. and the way Something_Smart insisted he "trapped Suzune" was also poor.

VOTE: chilledtea

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Post Post #295 (isolation #49) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 6:42 am

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if chilledtea is town, I'm lynching Fire Starter tomorrow. I believe in the townbloc of myself/Suzune/Maestro. if the scumteam is Suzune and Maesto u guys r probs laughin it up in ur PT and my props to u cuz you've both played individually solid games to me. there was some defending between them earlier on but it looked genuine and as the game progressed i really don't think the way Suzune pushed on Maestro was bussing/distancing
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Post Post #296 (isolation #50) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 6:43 am

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i keep going back and forth in my head on chilledtea. he wants to take Firestarter to L-1... who the heck else can be his partner... uhg
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Post Post #299 (isolation #51) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 7:52 am

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UNVOTE:

I hate to delay things but I'd request an extension/replacement for Fire Starter because by the nature of this setup, all town needs to be on the same page. If Fire Starter is town, we're doomed by his absence.
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Post Post #303 (isolation #52) » Mon Mar 28, 2016 2:05 am

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Radical.
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Post Post #305 (isolation #53) » Mon Mar 28, 2016 2:12 am

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Maestro you never gave your "willing to lynch" report.
In post 278, Nahdia wrote:We need progress. Everyone report in and list everyone else and state whether you'd be willing to lynch them or not. Reasons are not required but you may give them if you feel so inclined.

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Post Post #309 (isolation #54) » Mon Mar 28, 2016 2:32 am

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I'm not asking for an order. I'm asking you for people you're willing to lynch, and people you're not willing to lynch.
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Post Post #321 (isolation #55) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:09 am

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VOTE: itlepip
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Post Post #326 (isolation #56) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:34 pm

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Because Soldier was pretty much right about chilledtea not having many likely partners and I liked his post in general. So I'm thinking now that I've royally overthought all this crap, I'd like to follow up on my first instinct and lynch itlepip.
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Post Post #330 (isolation #57) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:18 pm

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In post 328, itlepip wrote:Is this seriously the play. Basically ever thing player in this game has scumread everyone else at some point in this game. If you want to find the possible partner's of tea look at the people who are running away from that lynch as soon as anyone creates any bit of analysis that isn't pointing out how obvious scum he is.
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Post Post #333 (isolation #58) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 4:49 pm

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Yeah you're hammered. Were you scum?
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Post Post #335 (isolation #59) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 4:54 pm

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i know it never worked i was kind of just bantering lol

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Post Post #341 (isolation #60) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 1:37 am

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VOTE: Maestro
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Post Post #344 (isolation #61) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 3:19 am

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so uh...... we didn't lynch... what happens now? :0
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Post Post #349 (isolation #62) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 11:32 am

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let's turbolynch something i wanna KILL SOMETHING

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Post Post #354 (isolation #63) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 5:01 am

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i am perfectly OK with either of these lynches.
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Post Post #375 (isolation #64) » Mon Apr 04, 2016 2:23 pm

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so
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Post Post #376 (isolation #65) » Mon Apr 04, 2016 2:23 pm

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is thesoldier's slot gonna lurk out again? lol
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Post Post #378 (isolation #66) » Mon Apr 04, 2016 2:32 pm

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suzune on a scale of 1 to 10 how sure are u on chilledtea?
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Post Post #383 (isolation #67) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:20 pm

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a 7?

decent odds.

VOTE: chilledtea

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Post Post #384 (isolation #68) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:02 pm

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quick, chilledtea, if ur town tell us who to lynch tomorrow
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Post Post #386 (isolation #69) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:21 pm

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can do
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Post Post #389 (isolation #70) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:26 pm

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In post 388, chilledtea wrote:At least be honest, you did this to move the game forward.
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Post Post #390 (isolation #71) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:27 pm

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i think u probably won't flip scum but whatever. if ur town then thesoldier's slot probably is too. i'll look into the possibility of a maestro/suzune team tomorrow and if im not convinced, vote itlepip.
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Post Post #391 (isolation #72) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:29 pm

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when i vote, assuming i vote town, scum will have the opportunity to blitz. so if there's no blitz, the only logical moves will be to vote within myself and my vote. and i'm not getting lynched. so i have the hammer, in essence ^_^
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Post Post #394 (isolation #73) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:46 pm

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well said. thank u for your thoughts and for ur play this game, chilledtea my pal.
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Post Post #401 (isolation #74) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 2:15 am

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p sure the team is Maestro and itlepip
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Post Post #402 (isolation #75) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 2:16 am

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only reason I haven't voted is I'm trying to consider the possibility of a itlepip/TheSoldier team. jesus it would be nice if that slot was like, ever actually active. that's making this game so much harder. i thought TheSoldier's one post was towny but that was like, one single freaking post.
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Post Post #403 (isolation #76) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 2:18 am

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In post 92, Fire Starter wrote:Maestro
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Well since I'm town, chilled tea is town, and Suzune is most likely town.

That leaves you [Maestro], giant, and pip. Would prefer if giant were to post, but happy with any of those three.
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Post Post #404 (isolation #77) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 2:26 am

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Very tempted to just dive in and honor chilledtea's request and vote itlepip. Could a Maestro/TheSoldier team be a thing...
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Post Post #405 (isolation #78) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 2:30 am

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i regret not just forcing my very first instinct and deathtunneling itlepip. i really need to stop changing my mind like, ever.
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Post Post #406 (isolation #79) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:01 am

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so here's the thing. my reads are as follows

Town: Suzune
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Scum: Maestro, itlepip

only partner read im pretty sure of is that itlepip and Suzune aren't partners. if they are then damn son that was a risky gambit.
Maestro and TheSoldier don't really seem like partners (from when the slot was Fire Starter) but that could have been a set up. I could see Maestro being partners with just about anyone here, including Suzune if I'm off on that read.

If the team is TheSoldier/Suzune then GG lol.

so I'm thinking voting Maestro here even though I do scumread itlepip a bit more just because there's more potential teams there. I mean, an itlepip/TheSoldier team is... possible. idk. did those two slots like, ever interact?
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Post Post #408 (isolation #80) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:06 am

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oh.

huh.

i guess i was wrong.
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Post Post #409 (isolation #81) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:06 am

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OK, so unless Suzune and TheSoldier jump in to blitz, there's confirmed 1 scum in itlepip and Maestro.
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Post Post #410 (isolation #82) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:08 am

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I mean, I guess this could be a gambit if itlepip is planning to unvote. but as it is, if the vote stays up awhile (and most importantly, if TheSoldier gets an active replacement) then I will consider Maestro/itlepip to be confirmed not teamed.
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Post Post #411 (isolation #83) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:10 am

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Suzune when you're around, I'm especially interested on your thoughts in Maestro/itlepip
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Post Post #415 (isolation #84) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:53 am

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oh god.
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Post Post #416 (isolation #85) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:55 am

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look, I know what you're thinking RC. itlepip has scumtold, I came into this game tunneling him hard and fast, and then suddenly at the end of the day I didn't vote him. I understand that, but you have to realize my hammer yesterday was to progress the gamestate.
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Post Post #417 (isolation #86) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:58 am

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I'm absolutely considering an itlepip vote here, but I
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you can scumread me if you want but remember now that all slots are considered "active" players, we need to lynch in itlepip and Maestro. there's basically confirmed one scum in there. ie don't freakign vote me you nerd.
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Post Post #420 (isolation #87) » Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:35 pm

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im waiting for Suzune

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Post Post #432 (isolation #88) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:24 am

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Radiant. Again itlepip and Maestro are the lynchpool. There's confirmed a scum in them. Fucking unvote me.
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Post Post #433 (isolation #89) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:24 am

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In post 426, RadiantCowbells wrote:Itle, if you don't unvote in your next post I will immediately vote you.

I'm starting to suspect that neither of you are necessarily scum and that scum just haven't been online together.
I mean it's possible but jesus christ dude I'm not scum
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Post Post #434 (isolation #90) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:27 am

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In post 428, RadiantCowbells wrote:Itle, it's pretty fucking obvious that Nahdia was just waiting for Suzune to get back so they could get together and uqickhammer.

If you don't unvote I'm gonna be hella pissed at you.
No, that's not it. I was waiting for Suzune to come back so I could see her thoughts between the two. JEsus christ you really think I would be so transparent about waiting for my partner? I was fucking awake when Suzune posted last night. We could have blitzed then if I was partners with her. If she was my partner I would have told her not to talk at all.

I was considering the possibility of a Suzune/Maestro team, so I wanted to see what Suzune's thoughts were.
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Post Post #435 (isolation #91) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:28 am

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Suzune has been scumreading Maestro, so I wanted to see if that stayed consistent. If it didn't that was going to be a huge red flag. Maestro did save Suzune early d1, so I had to consider that possibility you putz. Jesus I can't believe you take me for someone who would literally outloud say "I'm waiting for my partner to come back to we can blitz together." Again, I WAS ONLINE WHEN SUZUNE POSTED LAST NIGHT.
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Post Post #436 (isolation #92) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:31 am

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Besides your batshit insane theory that I was waiting for Suzune to come back so we could quickhammer together (which doesn't make any sense because then you said pip could be my partner?) WHY are you scumreading me?
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Post Post #437 (isolation #93) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:32 am

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Could you maybe give reasons for like, ANY of your reads? My freaking god dude.
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Post Post #438 (isolation #94) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:39 am

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I don't think your slot is scum because TheSoldier's posts were good and jesus dude if you're scum pushing my slot of all things is a fucking insane strategy considering I've been the universal townread but god damn if you just fucking lost us the game and I get quickhammered I am
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Post Post #439 (isolation #95) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:46 am

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honestly if I was scum here, especially waiting for my partner Suzune to come back to hammer, why would I actually wait for my partner to show up? I could have easily voted Maestro and given some bullcrap reason for it. the way the activity level has been people probably wouldn't have cared. and itlepip is townreading me pretty hard, I don't think he'd rethink having seen my vote follow his. the only reasonable situation here is I'm partners with itlepip IN WHICH CASE WHY ARE YOU VOTING ME WHEN YOU COULD VOTE IN ITLEPIP/MAESTRO WHICH SHOULD BE THE LYNCHPOOL AT THIS POINT BECAUSE THERE'S CONFIRMED 1 SCUM IN THEM.
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Post Post #440 (isolation #96) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:49 am

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jfc what am I even doing. if Suzune is town like I've been saying she then you're confirmed scum as long as itlepip and Maestro aren't partners. which I mean, I don't think they are. I guess it could be a gambit but with this level of activity from both of them there's like, no windup. seems crazy. BUT WHY RC WOULD YOU VOTE OUTSIDE THE CONFIRMED LYNCHPOOL.
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Post Post #441 (isolation #97) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:51 am

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I wasn't all that confident on my Suzune read at this point which is why I wanted to see if her reads stay consistent up to today. and they appear to be but they weren't accompanied by a vote so that can't be 100%.

jesus how can ANYONE think i'm scum here? like, honestly.
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Post Post #442 (isolation #98) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:53 am

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In post 423, Suzune wrote:Okay assuming Nah is town. The mafia are in a weird position. I assume for the time being TheSoldier is town. This means that there are two mafia and two townies quite activeish. Nah leads hard for the town and I listen. The best way to blend in is to mimic the other team. Pip leads and maestro listens and weighs in. I am curious to see what radiant does. Personally I think maestro is the way to go with the vote.
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THIS GAME IS SO ANNOYING NO ONE IS MAKING ANY SENSE.

RC IF YOU'RE TOWN IM GONNA BE SO MAD. I SO WOULD HAVE FIGURED THIS GAME OUT WITHOUT YOU.
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Post Post #446 (isolation #100) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:05 am

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FTR, I'm around. So I'm confirmed not partners with Maestro.
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Post Post #450 (isolation #101) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:13 am

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Sigh.

So what was the team?
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Post Post #452 (isolation #102) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:14 am

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Please tell me RC was scum. I don't want him to be town here. That'll just crush my spirit.

The game ended dude. I'm town, I got lynched.
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Post Post #455 (isolation #103) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:14 am

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So it was you and itlepip?
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Post Post #459 (isolation #104) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:16 am

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Yeah, I was kind of starting to come around to that. RC really shit the bed here.
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Post Post #464 (isolation #105) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:17 am

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I mean Suzune was blatant town all game and RC's slot tunneling me made no sense as scum. Really wish I hadn't let chilledtea get lynched but I wanted to move on and really didn't think I was ever getting lynched here. The replacement really changed the gamestate :\
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Post Post #466 (isolation #106) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:19 am

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Sorry lol but I totally do blame RC. By no means should we have voted outside itlepip and Maestro there and he just decided to hailmary and vote the universal townread. So yeah, RC played pretty horrible. Like, I understand he could potentially scumread me but from an optimal play standpoint he just did the worst possible thing by placing a new vote in lylo like that.

@Suzune well if we hadn't lynched tea we would have lynched ITLEPIP LIKE I KEPT SAYING WE SHOULD.

Knew my initial read through was right. Sigh.
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Post Post #471 (isolation #107) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:26 am

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My initial reads are usually right so like, yeah they matter lol. I'm not bitter about the game, you guys played decent, I'm just disappointed in myself for not pushing itlepip sooner and that RC was able to scumread me.

@Suzune I can't imagine he would try to do something like that in lylo. I think he did legit scumread me and was just wrong. Which is unfortunate but oh well. He had too much confidence in himself and should have voted in the confirmed lynch pool.
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Post Post #472 (isolation #108) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:26 am

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Good game, guys. It was fun.
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Post Post #474 (isolation #109) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:28 am

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I advanced the gamestate. No one was willing to waver on their votes. I was 90% sure I could push through the lynch I wanted the next day, so it didn't matter to me if we lynched tea. Then you came in and voted as soon as you had a read in lylo -_-'
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Post Post #480 (isolation #110) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:32 am

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I'm annoyed that you wouldn't see that itlepip was basically conf from his push on Suzune though and just lynched in the optimal lynch pool WHICH HAPPENED TO HAVE BOTH SCUM -_-'

p-edit: RC I get that. I already explained what I was actually doing there but I can understand how you saw it like that. I'd ask that you don't underestimate me THAT much though.... I'm not going to out loud say I'm waiting for my partner so we can hammer.

p-edit 2: dude that was such an obvious townslip if you actually read her posts and then my posts where i explained it. she was blatant town from that.
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Post Post #483 (isolation #111) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:35 am

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Your misunderstanding early game was fine Suzune. It confirmed you as town to me and itlepip was basically 90% scum from it. Maestro played it well by defending you there when he could have just pushed the ML through though you called that as it was, so props for that.

I didn't want to lynch chilledtea either but again, no one was changing their vote and I was positive I could get through the lynch I wanted today :(
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Post Post #485 (isolation #112) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:37 am

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=(

I can see how I would be scumread from some of my individual actions but as a whole, everyone who was present for the game was townreading me.
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Post Post #488 (isolation #113) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:42 am

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It's OK, you did more than the other two in the slot. It ended up just being that I wanted to lead the town and then a fresh face didn't like it. Anyone else who took the slot could have done the same.
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Post Post #498 (isolation #114) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:43 pm

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Voting Maestro then unvoting him and saying RC was confscum made me feel those two were partners but by that point it hardly mattered :p
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