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Lol scum-claim.In post 2300, Killthestory wrote:k heres the problem:
i dont have my night action PMs in my sent messages box, and I don't remember who I picked. the only ones I remember was Night 3 was imperium, and then I forgot to protect someone last night. i'm gonna PM Kelbris to see if he could send me my night action, but idk"I am a leaf on the wind ... watch how I soar!"
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If Ranger thought you were the Doc you would have been shot over players like Massive.In post 2302, Killthestory wrote:shut the fuck up you suck at this game i dont even want to hear it.
like it's literally obvious im the doctor, even ranger saw it. no ones even going to try and counterclaim me
But continue to flail."I am a leaf on the wind ... watch how I soar!"
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oops, it's actually been sunny for once in England so been actually going outside last few days lol. Anyway down to business...
really bad...
possible scum paranoia...In post 2291, Killthestory wrote:If the real doctor were to counterclaim me
what the hell...In post 2283, Killthestory wrote:MoI who did you jailkeep?
BUT KTS did you play like you did to try & survive? That trolling shit?In post 2304, Killthestory wrote: anyway apparently i didnt actually send a n1 or n2 actions.-
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Just that post I thought Rach was bussing Ranger with is weak on its own. But I've seen this kind of over enthusiasm faked by scum after a good night for town...
& ALOT of direct links to Ranger (we need to look at these today for everyone no matter who is lynched) through OW...In post 2284, RachMarie wrote:YAY scum lynch and no kills it is a great day.
In post 2202, MagnaofIllusion wrote: 403begins Ocean’s questioning on the Ranger slot (Jim at the time). Note that his first established read on Jim despite Jim’s mixing of myself and Lowell and other items was slight Town (411). He even defends Ranger’s slot at 469 regarding my pressure on Jim for mixing myself and Lowell in his reads list.
At 594 he is back to softly suspecting Jim based on inconsistencies (one of which he defended Jim on) and Jim flaking. I can easily see this as distancing given he previously light Town read Jim’s slot and the only thing that changed is that Jim was not posting.
743 is interesting – he specifically singles out the Ranger slot as wanting content from. Wanting a partner to pull their weight?
He puts Jim as the last in his scum reads (Town!Snarky, Titus slot, Town!Com and lastly Jim) at 819.
Ocean’s late Day 1 “Everyone don’t lynch CoM we need more input” reads as LAMIST style posting on a player they know isn’t flipping scum.
Once again Jim is tucked away at the end of Ocean’s official scum reads list.In post 907, OceanWind wrote:If you flip town, I'd go after SnarkySnowman and Bellaphant. Both of them are scumreads. Bellaphant has been pretty comfortable with her vote on you and Snarky's play around your wagon suggests ulterior motives to me. My third scumread would probably be Jim. I'd also need to review Lowell, MagnaOfIllusion and Ollie to make sure I'm not missing anything there.
Read 987 in context of the above quote – Severa was nowhere near to be seen on the “CoM flips Town” reads yet he’s the Day 2 focus with the Ranger slot once again positioned just outside his direct focus.
Ranger by this point has replaced in and despite him being a so called strong scum-read he does little in probing Ranger. In fact 1175 is all to be seen in that range and there is no evidence he followed up on it. And this is followed up by a shallow Ranger-meta read at 1269.
At 1278 he begins a long string of questioning Ranger. Read that for yourself and decide if that is actual scum-hunting or just a floor show. I’m leaning the latter.
Here’s why I think it is a floor show – at 1356 he hops onto a Ranger wagon I am pushing for. Then at 1478 Ocean hops right back to Snarky with no interactions with Ranger in-between. And follows up with the pre-flip 1552 which I’ve said makes absolutely no sense from someone who supposedly was scum-reading Ranger and just saw Ranger help strongarm a wagon onto Snarky.
Ocean’s early Day 3 vote on Ranger looks like a weak bus to me given he spends the majority of the day arguing with Imperium and myself on why we are Town-reading each other. Read it for yourself.
But do read his jump onto Masq at 1748 and look at the context of why he jumps on that wagon.
Rach replaces in at 1822. She slots Ranger as ‘needing to review’. Said review never happens Day 3. And as noted earlier we have 1925 which I feel is trying to peel Imperium off the Ranger is scum wagon.-
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seriously Imperium, gonna try again...
In post 2252, Ollie wrote:@Imperium, stop cherry picking, respond to the rest of what I said... 2244
or you know, you could just keep tryna lynch me, acting like you're untouchable cos MoI is town reading you.In post 2244, Ollie wrote:Did I think that you were scum? Sure I did!
Why did you think I was scum at that point?
WOAH WOAH WOAH, you said before that you didn't see responding to me as a priority!I didn't respond to you immediately probably because I didn't see your post;
Which one? In order to se my post as a priority you have to see it right? If you don't remember why did you not just say that?if I did, I didn't respond to it because, again, I was behind as shit and responding to you why I felt inclined to put down a vote on you that didn't last very long didn't interest me nor did I regard it as important.
You said you thought I was scum. You thought I was scum enough to vote for me... But you weren't attached to it. You said you didn't see responding to me as a priority which now looks like an invention as you have also claimed you might not have seen my post. Does not compute.I didn't follow up with my read because I wasn't that attached to it in the first place thanks to the not being engaged thing.-
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If kill is doc, why wouldn't you doubt me given I have strongly desired to lynch kill without a CC?In post 2310, Nosferatu wrote:if kill is doc, scum team is almost certainly ollie and rach. If imperium is scum I swear to jesus I'll take every game uber seriously and analyse everything to a t to overcome this shame.
which to lynch first?
Imperium is implied scum if Kill is?
So why are you sure I am town?
What do you actually think of Kil?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Why? & why are you giving Imperium a pass?In post 2310, Nosferatu wrote:if kill is doc, scum team is almost certainly ollie and rach. If imperium is scum I swear to jesus I'll take every game uber seriously and analyse everything to a t to overcome this shame.-
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@Nos So you found it hard to read Imp without them signing their posts, you were struggling to read them, they haven't started signing their posts since, & you haven't played with them much. I saw nothing that you pointed out what changed your mind about Imp's alignment. But you have a strong town read on them? How have you been able to get over not being able to read them? Can you bring up some posts that made you town read them please. What thoughts were you thinking about their slot that you didn't articulate? I've picked out the relevant posts...
You've brought up more negative stuff than town which is why I need clarification on this...In post 583, Nosferatu wrote:
It's hard reading read progression of hydras when I don't know who is who.In post 575, Imperium wrote:
We don't sign our posts, but what would knowing whose posts are whose do for your ability to read us?In post 566, Nosferatu wrote:@Imperium which posts are from who, you guys haven't been signing and I haven't played with either of you enough to know your posting behaviours.
In post 602, Nosferatu wrote:This is what I don't get.
votes ollie hereIn post 79, Imperium wrote:
This is probably the best point in thread so far.In post 73, Nosferatu wrote:
not RVS.In post 63, OceanWind wrote:
Assuming you just now remembered this game, why throw down an RVS vote as opposed to offer your thoughts on the non-serious content in the thread?In post 49, Nosferatu wrote:yeah I also hadn't read your post. Get over yourself.
24/25 <--- who states suspicion only to come back literally an hour later to put a vote down? I could understand if it were a few minutes later and you were like "oh ya, I forgot to vote him actually" but no, he calls him tryhard scum, which is like ¿qué? cause like one thing is saying he was to lengthy in his response to a naked vote, (which I don't even get I mean when did post length become alignment-indicative) but another is calling him tryhard scum based on one post.
Vote: Ollie
calls for votes on ollie hereIn post 83, Imperium wrote:Lowell, come vote Ollie with me - it's a hell of a lot better vote than the thing you're doing now.
finds the matter curious here.In post 213, Imperium wrote:
@Ollie:Why did you wait for an hour to vote?
For the record, I don't think that it's scummy he came back an hour later to vote, just worthy of observation.In post 100, OceanWind wrote:
Why is it scummy that he came back an hour later to vote?In post 95, Ollie wrote:24/25 <--- who states suspicion only to come back literally an hour later to put a vote down?
It doesn't make sense. If it was a pressure vote, why call for lowell to join in? Or alternatively, why not ask him the question along with your vote, not almost 200 posts later? And if my point was good, it would mean he thought it was scummy or what? Just agh.
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Do you normally take this “strict” a language approach to this game. Because it looks like you are stretching so hard to just argue against the point I made. You say it is not following through. But Bella made the statement and despite multiple requests from myself to actually commit to working that angle she has refused. So I find it realistically likely she is more likely to be scum for quite possible not actually believing what she said. Do you disagree?In post 568, Nosferatu wrote:I only saw her say there was scum on the kt wagon once, but saying there's scum on a wagon and not identifying scum on the wagon isn't hedging. It's not following through.
I do often take a very strict approach as to semantics and syntax in games, but in this particular case it feels like by using the term "hedging" which has a known scummy connotation makes a post look scummier than it would be otherwise.
It's still jarring imoMagnaofIllusion wrote:
The do what you should do from the start – treat the slot as a single player. Hydra dissonance isn’t something to excuse. Hydras need to coordinate their crap behind the scenes or be prepared to be held to the fire if they contradict each other.In post 583, Nosferatu wrote:It's hard reading read progression of hydras when I don't know who is who.-
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Was this a serious comment? If so why did you think that?In post 2156, Nosferatu wrote:inb4 imperium/ollie/rach scumteam sweep
After ISOing you I get the impression you were town reading Ranger until the hammer & yesterday. Is that true?
this coulda been communication with a scum team member...In post 2133, Nosferatu wrote: If you're not getting anything out of this, you should probably stop doing that and try something else.-
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Clearly you don't know me well yet Kill me bus? LOL
Go feel free to check out my scum games and see how often I bus much less bus HARD.
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I think we should lynch between kill and Ollie today.In post 2313, Ollie wrote:
Why? & why are you giving Imperium a pass?In post 2310, Nosferatu wrote:if kill is doc, scum team is almost certainly ollie and rach. If imperium is scum I swear to jesus I'll take every game uber seriously and analyse everything to a t to overcome this shame.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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1. In fact right after I made that post I realized you were in this game, but ranger was pretty convinced you're scum iirc, and ranger doesn't bus so I figured you were probably town.In post 2312, Titus wrote:
If kill is doc, why wouldn't you doubt me given I have strongly desired to lynch kill without a CC?In post 2310, Nosferatu wrote:if kill is doc, scum team is almost certainly ollie and rach. If imperium is scum I swear to jesus I'll take every game uber seriously and analyse everything to a t to overcome this shame.
which to lynch first?
Imperium is implied scum if Kill is?
So why are you sure I am town?
What do you actually think of Kil?
2. no?
3. I'm really not.
4. Like yesterday, it's really just a coin flip. I flip between scum and town reading him literally everytime he posts.
Because I townread imperium. That post was literally just PoE (Although I did forget Titus).In post 2313, Ollie wrote:
Why? & why are you giving Imperium a pass?In post 2310, Nosferatu wrote:if kill is doc, scum team is almost certainly ollie and rach. If imperium is scum I swear to jesus I'll take every game uber seriously and analyse everything to a t to overcome this shame.-
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Imperium is basically just for most of this game as she's admitted. So the fact that they don't sign their posts is pretty irrelevant at this point. I could also probably point out the posts that weren't Tammy after playing for so long in this game. The issue with hydras not signing is more of an accuracy issue than a difficulty issue.In post 2314, Ollie wrote:@Nos So you found it hard to read Imp without them signing their posts, you were struggling to read them, they haven't started signing their posts since, & you haven't played with them much. I saw nothing that you pointed out what changed your mind about Imp's alignment. But you have a strong town read on them? How have you been able to get over not being able to read them? Can you bring up some posts that made you town read them please. What thoughts were you thinking about their slot that you didn't articulate? I've picked out the relevant posts...
You've brought up more negative stuff than town which is why I need clarification on this...In post 583, Nosferatu wrote:
It's hard reading read progression of hydras when I don't know who is who.In post 575, Imperium wrote:
We don't sign our posts, but what would knowing whose posts are whose do for your ability to read us?In post 566, Nosferatu wrote:@Imperium which posts are from who, you guys haven't been signing and I haven't played with either of you enough to know your posting behaviours.In post 602, Nosferatu wrote:This is what I don't get.
votes ollie hereIn post 79, Imperium wrote:
This is probably the best point in thread so far.In post 73, Nosferatu wrote:
not RVS.In post 63, OceanWind wrote:
Assuming you just now remembered this game, why throw down an RVS vote as opposed to offer your thoughts on the non-serious content in the thread?In post 49, Nosferatu wrote:yeah I also hadn't read your post. Get over yourself.
24/25 <--- who states suspicion only to come back literally an hour later to put a vote down? I could understand if it were a few minutes later and you were like "oh ya, I forgot to vote him actually" but no, he calls him tryhard scum, which is like ¿qué? cause like one thing is saying he was to lengthy in his response to a naked vote, (which I don't even get I mean when did post length become alignment-indicative) but another is calling him tryhard scum based on one post.
Vote: Ollie
calls for votes on ollie hereIn post 83, Imperium wrote:Lowell, come vote Ollie with me - it's a hell of a lot better vote than the thing you're doing now.
finds the matter curious here.In post 213, Imperium wrote:
@Ollie:Why did you wait for an hour to vote?
For the record, I don't think that it's scummy he came back an hour later to vote, just worthy of observation.In post 100, OceanWind wrote:
Why is it scummy that he came back an hour later to vote?In post 95, Ollie wrote:24/25 <--- who states suspicion only to come back literally an hour later to put a vote down?
It doesn't make sense. If it was a pressure vote, why call for lowell to join in? Or alternatively, why not ask him the question along with your vote, not almost 200 posts later? And if my point was good, it would mean he thought it was scummy or what? Just agh.
MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Do you normally take this “strict” a language approach to this game. Because it looks like you are stretching so hard to just argue against the point I made. You say it is not following through. But Bella made the statement and despite multiple requests from myself to actually commit to working that angle she has refused. So I find it realistically likely she is more likely to be scum for quite possible not actually believing what she said. Do you disagree?In post 568, Nosferatu wrote:I only saw her say there was scum on the kt wagon once, but saying there's scum on a wagon and not identifying scum on the wagon isn't hedging. It's not following through.
I do often take a very strict approach as to semantics and syntax in games, but in this particular case it feels like by using the term "hedging" which has a known scummy connotation makes a post look scummier than it would be otherwise.
It's still jarring imoMagnaofIllusion wrote:
The do what you should do from the start – treat the slot as a single player. Hydra dissonance isn’t something to excuse. Hydras need to coordinate their crap behind the scenes or be prepared to be held to the fire if they contradict each other.In post 583, Nosferatu wrote:It's hard reading read progression of hydras when I don't know who is who.
Was up until the masque hammer I was townreading Ranger. I can't fix your perceived communication thing. Last time, I coached a team mate though, Titus caught me and my buddy, so I don't think I'd do it again with her here.In post 2315, Ollie wrote:
Was this a serious comment? If so why did you think that?In post 2156, Nosferatu wrote:inb4 imperium/ollie/rach scumteam sweep
After ISOing you I get the impression you were town reading Ranger until the hammer & yesterday. Is that true?
this coulda been communication with a scum team member...In post 2133, Nosferatu wrote: If you're not getting anything out of this, you should probably stop doing that and try something else.-
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Ok if the Doctor is avoiding counterclaiming because Titus is saying not to - DON'T!
It isn't productive. I can't lynch kill if he is uncountered no matter how much of a VI he is."I am a leaf on the wind ... watch how I soar!"
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Now, which game are you referring to where I caught you and your buddy?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I disagree. You're conftown. If there's a situation where we can protect the real doctor, it's this one.In post 2321, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Ok if the Doctor is avoiding counterclaiming because Titus is saying not to - DON'T!
It isn't productive. I can't lynch kill if he is uncountered no matter how much of a VI he is.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Blitz 6.In post 2322, Titus wrote:Now, which game are you referring to where I caught you and your buddy?
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