Mini 1802: Paint Mafia Sequel - Game Over!

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VOTE: spiffeh

MUAuahahha

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hi pieguyn :3

hi nina williams :3

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meow~

hello aristophanes

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i had a bio exam earlier and it was ez and also i'm excited for the posh avian tea party so i'm pretty swelllll! hbu

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hey bellaphant! long time no see!

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yo nahdia!!
hello fellow squirrelsquad member uptoolate!!
hello fellow squirrelsquad member spiffeh!!
yo beeboy!!

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hello fellow squirrelsquad member hiplop!! stop impersonating jess!!

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gonna be

v/la

for the next day or so b/c got my next exam in 23 HOURS and 54 MINUTES and needa study and have chosen supp viewing as my procrastination method over mafia but bbs

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lol so 2/4 exams finished now but

pages 1-5

pie is town as heck, agree with her strategy for flip

hiplop, beeboy town b/c their tones read town to me

aristo may be scum,

for aggressively loving

feels like he's posting filler

tsq=shea not impressed with entrance, think that was his only post here, mebbe scum

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tehbrawlguy: is your miller ability related to your color?

ugh and the role fishing here too.

:/

lol wat
this question didn't look like role fishing it looked like asking for clarification on the claim imo

though it did seem unnecessary, i assumed miller just meant brawlguy's colour would flip as red in flip phase or he'd come up red if investigated

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starting to get nervous about pieguyn... they seem to be proactively sorting but I keep coming out with the opposite perspective on events as them.

could i kindly request an e.g. of your perspective of an event here being opposite to pie's?

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o yeah i was just abt to say nvm it's here

starting to get nervous about pieguyn... they seem to be proactively sorting but I keep coming out with the opposite perspective on events as them.

which reads do you disagree with and why?

I didn't like the timing of your beeboy townread (i do townread him now but at the time you said he was town i had him as mixed vibes), and I didn't really like the TBG read. not saying that like, you were logically incorrect to have those reads. it's just, in my reading I kind of got the opposite impression from both of those situations

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replace me out, I'm too irritable to play with

what no plz hippyyy :[

Like TSQ said earlier this game we are just doing arbitrary actions right now so none of his flailing really matters and we should still flip him.

-not caring about finding scum: check.
-well poisoning: check.
-being a condescending asshole: check.
-doing nothing to help town: check.

cool. beeboy is still the same person.

hold up-
i disagree with the first/fourth points
and what's with the ad hominem remark out of the blue in the third

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Please put votes on their own line in the future because my eyes are terrible

but you have the most beautiful green eyes

someone please make me stop with the memes that most ppl don't even understand

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@dom, dwlee, got any catch up thoughts?

VOTE: spiffeh

tehbrawlguy is probably town.

uhhh you just said this like 3 posts earlier
have you really not got any

grapes

other thoughts man?

a duck walked up to a lemonade stand
and he said to the man, running the stand
"hey! (bum bum bum) got any grapes?

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I'm caught up.. I'm having a really hard time getting into this game.

lol same

OK DWLEE you have a pass for now since EXAMS like i feel your pain dude and you think you replaced beeboy (right?) who was pretty town

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It's not a matter of lynching.

It's a matter of who we want confirmed town.

And pie is a player I very much would want to be confirmed town.

i'd rather flip someone i find scummy/hard to read

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k utl's post in response to ^ is like exactly what i said... should probably read like all the posts and then go back and comment but eh...

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NAI

nasty agency incorporated?
net annual income?
non-accidental injury?

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right so all caught up now, there wasn't much to read at all!

ranger, gonna believe her ic claim for nooooow but i feel like she's riding on it and hasn't done anything other than call pie town, suggest we flip pie to conftown her, post a couple readslists w/o explanation and ??????? so from her content i'm reading null but from claim = = =

town

(if it gets to like day 3 and there's no mod reveal tho, imma be suspicious)

nahdia, eh for reasons???? or maybe gut..... but it's after 12am and i'm still not doing chem oops gotta finish up this post (this one i'm doing almost last but then i've put them like in an order see) but lol yeah = = =

town

pie, still doing the words/analysis/words/solving/words stuff which seems helpful and also meta lol, seems like town

apple

pie from the pyp x/y open game = = =

town

utl! you seem exactly like you did in puppy mafia (as town) and i really hope i'm not being complacent with this read but i also find i agree with most everything you've said so = = =

town

beeboy read as town from tone/seemed like he was legit trying to figure things out rather than trying to LOOK like he was trying to figure out stuff, dwlee hasn't done aaaanything so carrying on bboy read = = =

nulltown

tehbrawlguy, like your posting tho i'm still kinda wary of you for some reason hmm. anyways gonna say = = =

nulltown

hiplop, so sad that you left us, cryin over here tbh. and the dude who replaced you doesn't say i am (and everyone else is) his best frand and also hasn't posted like anything noteworthy = = =

null

spiffeh, oh spiffeh, you haven't done anything apart from sheep wagons! /throws acorn at you.. = = =

null

bella~ getting scum vibes from you right now :< but iirc i've found you scummy also in past game/s where you were town (plot's mini.. not sure if others) so gonna have to sort you out = = =

null

nina, gameshow/interview/whatever post was entertaining but uh, the reasoning for the reads was basically just gut - got anything else to back em up now? tone reads awkwardly though could just be newbness i guess... still atm = = =

nullscum

aristo, fluffy fluffy filler is what i'm seeing from you... very fluffy.... well pretty fluffy...... quite fluffy?........... somewhat fluffy??................. p.s. i forgot you when thinking back about the players and had to go look at vc to see who i was missing and it was you heh, not b/c you're not noteworthy just you haven't done like anything noteworthy which is suspicious cos you've been around = = =

scum

shea/tsq, i want you to be town but your posting doesn't look town to me :/ i'm prob wrong about either nina or shea since they're going after each other but i think this slot is more likely = = =

scum

@keelymod can you pls hook up the squirrelsquad members with a private neighbourhood tia

pedit: haha oh haha that makes sense haha

the man said
"no, we just sell lemonade.
but it's cold and it's fresh
and it's all homemade
can i get you a glass?
the duck said,
"i'll pass."

then she waddled away..
(waddle waddle)

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Ducks.. um. I wasn't

in

Puppy Mafia, I modded it...

Clarify please?

oh yeah :') i mean the newbie game (also had syl, always innocent, not sure who else) but ppl keep talking to me about puppy mafia so i got confused

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@keelymod can you pls hook up the squirrelsquad members with a private neighbourhood tia

Squirrels are terrible, so this is rejected.

b-b-but

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VOTE: tehbrawlguy

SQUIRRELSQUAD PILE ON

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Katsuki replaces in for Thestatusquo.
Much thanks to him!

lol hi

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in all honesty, this explicitly reads like she's attempting to line up a TSQ/Nina dichotomy when there's no good reason for it - I don't really have any idea of what her thought process behind this conclusion actually was.

kay so
i found both nina and tsq scummy individually (p much just based on the feeling i got from their posts but if pushed i could prolly find specific things about them i didn't like)
and i wrote up my reads thing but wrote about tsq almost last and realised it didn't really fit for tsq + nina to be scum together based on their interactions but i wrote reads for people individually before considering which scumteams would make most sense
but i had exam to study 4
so i was like oh well i'll sort it out after that
i just------fucuckckkcing dog just jumped almost on my face wtf
where was i oh yes so i just left it as it was but made a note that i didn't think they were scum 2gether

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nina, gameshow/interview/whatever post was entertaining but uh, the reasoning for the reads was basically just gut - got anything else to back em up now? tone reads awkwardly though could just be newbness i guess... still atm = = = nullscum

this read looks flat-out fake. the major reason is, from what I can tell, lala seems to be a player who forms reads heavily based on tone/gut (I could be wrong on this, if I am correct me), and she literally _in the same post_ handwaved at least one read because of "idk, gut". I could see an argument such as "your reads are bad", but she explicitly fucking calls her out for "not having anything else to back up her reads"

well yeah but i don't list tone/gut as my reasons for every read without ever trying to figure out why posts strike me as bad/scummy?

- this is a much easier callout to make as scum than town since it's the kind of thing that _looks_ nice and is objectively true, i.e. difficult to question, as opposed to something that you have to argue and back up. I also take issue with the last sentence because there's nothing specific there - usually when town have issues with tone they have at the very least something vaguely specific to back it up (even something such as Spiffeh using town games as a reference), but here there is none. again, it's a stance that is much easier to take and requires less commitment.

ehh this is something i tend to get called out a lot on in mafia i guess. tbh i dont try to be careful about what i'm writing and don't really notice if it comes out sounding very flip floppy because it's pretty much just what's going on in my head

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I could probably vote lala. despite being stream-of-consciousness, her catchup was actually fairly content-light

that's just my posts every game tho

and didn't have much in terms of original content.

i didn't find that there was much for me to comment on that hadn't already been said - even things i thought of that hadn't been mentioned before when i responded to posts before reading subsequent posts, then it turned out other people said very similar things to me in those subsequent posts
this is a preeeeeeeetty slooowwwww game

actually, now that I read it again, I have all sorts of issues with 218 (her reads list), in terms of hedged language/scum being careful with what they're saying.

ummm hedged language i gueeeess, like i said in my previous post ppl usually seem get frustrated at me cos i'm indecisive, but def not the second point

the most obvious one is the read on TBG "TBG seems town but I'm still going to be wary of him for ... no specific reason", which is something that I attribute to scum looking like they're trying to be logical and consider all of the possibilities.

yes i said that because his posts all look great and analytical and towny and whatev but i can't shake this feeling i get from his posts that's kinda ??hm??

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so, aristophanes. who's the scumz?

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Also, I don't hold the same confidence in pie being town as everyone else seems to, which gives me a DARN good reason to want a pie reveal.

I want pie flipped. If scum, then good. If town, even better.

either way ranger's the only one who wants to flip pie with the main intention of confirming her as town

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meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh

i tried to respond to your points pie but whatever

i also want nina and katsuki(tsq) to come back and actually do something before i attempt to sort them.

am worried about utl since she apparently dislikes rolling scum so maybe she rolled scum this time and that's why she's apathetic? ack.

also kats, tsq was my strongest scumread and i rly rly don't wanna lynch you but you totally look like a scumbum rn

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say something i'm giving up on you

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omg i should request something

i request hmmmmmmmmmmmhmmmhmmmmmhmmmmmhmmmhmmhmhmhmhmhmhmmmmmhmhmhmhmhmmhmhmhm

hermione doing a spell on harry to vomit rainbow on ron

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i also want nina and katsuki(tsq) to come back and actually do something before i attempt to sort them.

oh right nina flipped blue.... yeah....... i'm good at paying attention......... but she's been awol for like 5 days now?

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2 days*

fuck

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also kats, tsq was my strongest scumread and i rly rly don't wanna lynch you but you totally look like a scumbum rn

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I can get scumreading shea but why me?

b/c you haven't done anything that convinces me you're not scum you NUT

happy 17th! just one more year til you can buy all the alcohols, eh?

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VOTE: RANGER

and yeah we're not doing this today

don't like any of ranger's posting at all but not willing to lynch claimed confirmable role until day 3

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VOTE: RANGER

no

friend your iso is barren

gimme your reads please?

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Godreads

also is this supposed to say goodreads or are you like calling me a god

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"Draw Me"

hahahahahaha brilliant

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you scum.

why tho

just b/c what pie says sounds legit or..?

pedit: spiffeh >:[

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aristo, fluffy fluffy filler is what i'm seeing from you... very fluffy.... well pretty fluffy...... quite fluffy?........... somewhat fluffy??................. p.s. i forgot you when thinking back about the players and had to go look at vc to see who i was missing and it was you heh, not b/c you're not noteworthy just you haven't done like anything noteworthy which is suspicious cos you've been around = = = scum

why haven't you followed up on this read? were you really that satisfied with "you and Nahdia are town because your posting is natural" where it was worth dropping it entirely?

no? i still think aristo's scummy i just haven't commented on him b/c he's still fluffposting, nothing much has changed about aristo since that read for me

i mean i guess i could think about if he was on the nina wagon and then..... what that means............ but but but but but but but but but i kinda can't be bothered to right now? and should be watching the lectures for this course since i didn't go to any this semester and the exam's in 24.5 hours but like lol (it's the LAST EXAM THO)

tbh it's starting to annoy me now that you keep saying i'm scum and yeah that's THE GAME that's

mafia

whatever it's an annoying game but like it's also making me wanna start ignoring your posts about me but i'm not gonna do it hopefully and anyway idk yeah really i'm just answering this post cos i wanna respond to katsuki but if i do that w/o responding to you you'll be like SCUMLALALADUCKS look ignoring shit so here i responded

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292o2 fuck you all youre all bitches you can all die in hell

anyone who thinkcs i am scum can die in hell

aw ): i kinda think you're scum though? are you saying you want me to die in hell? (prob where i'm going tbh but hey technicalities)

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considering whether pie is scum actually
hm
hmm
just thinking out loud here but
like she's trying really hard to get rid of me??????????????? is it b/c she ACTUALLY thinks i'm this much of a scumfuck orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...........
ducksgoat
is a thing i used to enjoy saying
b/c ducks + scapegoat = ducksgoat
lolhaha how clever
in the one previous game (open pyp x/y maybe 593?) i played w/ her i was pretty much like this and she was able to correctly discern my alignment ? i think. i'll go back and check sometime
no promises for exactly when but sometime
frustrated tho

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okay i'm back

mafia yay what a joy so pumped

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i don't really get you acting like this when you have all of two votes and there seems to be a lot of resistance to lynching you but if you can explain how everything about the TSQ/Nina scum reads somehow slipped your mind when you were trying to read them, yet you seemed to have no problem specifically making an argument against one TSQ post which was mostly irrelevant

i don't really get what you mean with the "how everything about tsq/nina scumreads slipped my mind" - i jotted down my reads in the list, gave reasons for some reads, otherwise they were simply b/c of gut+feeling of tone from people's posts
when i was reading the game that post i quoted from tsq struck me as just terrible and also i like saying ad hominem tbh so i quoted it! i mean i'm not claiming it's the main reason i scumread him but it's part of the reason

- or why you just came in here and voted Nina despite expressing that you wanted to sort through their interactions first (hint: i doubt you can)

to be completely honest i couldn't be bothered going back through and reading again >___>

- or even give a more in-depth explanation of why you are/were conveniently scum reading TSQ's slot/Nina individually,

blegh.... some of the reason i don't remember by now anyway and i don't wanna reread so i'm alright with you keeping your vote on me/pushing for my lynch
your reads in general are bad enough that i'm suspicious of you

then i might be more inclined to back off of you, yes. i am continuing to push you as scum because you have not answered any of these points.

i'm not gonna be obnoxious enough to be like "soznotsoz" but uh...... okay!

what are you expecting, me to just go "lol nope, lala is town now for ... magic reasons"?

i chuckled. i don't expect that to happen but at this point i've resigned myself to consistently being scumread so ya

because that would be stupid, and obviously so. if i'm wrong then convince me i'm wrong - just because i write a lot of words doesn't mean i won't reconsider my reads if someone provides a compelling reason for it

see that seems reasonable but i think if i try you're still gonna scumread me

and no, i don't remember you doing any of these things in O593 at all, and i don't exactly know why you're trying to pull up a game from one year ago as if everyone is somehow able to remember in-detail how everyone acts in every game they play.

okie yeah i won't go back to look at it then

hm reading this post you sound just
so reasonable and it makes me seem
so UNREASONABLE
prolly cos i am but eh
grrraarrrrrrrrrrrr

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Lala's protesting too much looks so scummy, though.

Ugh, lala, have you got thoughts on the rest of the game? Like, you say you wanna ignore pie but you keep circling back to it.

yes thoughts, you're scum!

:0

also ignoring is rude so i didn't

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I like being carried

pieguy is town, didn't like that post from lala at all. The whole 'thinking out loud' feels gimmicky tbh.

hey wow we agree

why dont you actually vote lala then

see i don't think dwlee can be scum b/c he's doing nothing except try to get people to lynch me. if i'm lynched, i flip town, people go well hm who is incriminated by that flip?
pie? well yeah she pushed that pretty hard so might be scumz but at least she had

reasons

who else
hmm
oh yeah dwlee! dwlee? what's that guy done ALL GAME? let's iso him ah yes let's see......... well. not much here apart from trying to get lala lynched

like CAN SCUM ACTUALLY BE THAT DUMB? that they would do -basically nothing- apart from making pretty much contentless posts and trying to convince people to vote me

so congrats dwlee you've earned yourself a townread from this duck by not playing well

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Nahdia looks a little better tonally and I don't think it's out of the ordinary for her to be suspicious of my inactivity given what she's seen from me as town

Bella hasn't provided a reason for scum reading me (other than my reads are terrible?) and I know she's seen me inactive early on as town before so she doesn't really have an excuse

A lot of her questions seem surface level to me and I don't really see her taking firm stances or even following up on the questions she asks?

She's using words like "awkward" and "terrible" rather than give explanations for feeling that way

i like this post and agree

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Pie what are your thoughts on Bella?

I've agreed with the majority of her reads this game, lala-scum being the primary example of this,

okay so, this is a terrible reason to townread bella
just want to quote this here, if i get lynched, look at my flip, lynch her next PLEASE

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how, specifically, would you have expected town-bella to approach her read on you? do you know her reads and/or pushes to be more in-depth than this as town, or... ?

i know this question wasn't directed towards me but i've definitely seen much better from her

like i kno it's prob hypocritical of me to be like "she's different to this as town" when my townplay has changed kinda significantly since i discovered that i actually kinda hate mafia after i started playing last year but i'm like 75% sure she's not town here

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I've been incredibly hungover today and still feeling nauseous. Hopefully tomorrow.

scumbae :[

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No.

I do need someone to give me a summary of this game though. I don't have the motivation to catch up and I was p fucked up over the weekend

summary:
nina = confirmed town from colour flip
pie says i'm scum b/c of a shittily reasoned readslist + lack of following-up/caring/providing reasons on nina-tsq/u interactions
dwlee says i'm scum b/c he can't read me
ranger wanted to flip pie, i thought to confirm her as town but actually seems b/c ranger thinks she's scum, also says she(ranger) will be mod-confirmed town at some point in the game after day 1
spiffeh didn't do anything for a long time then he came back and made some posts that weren't awful so he's unlikely scum!
tehbrawlguy makes posts but he's kinda under the radar to me? idk. i forgot he was one of the players earlier
itle is prob town? don't agree with pressuring ranger to give a set timeframe to be confirmed but do agree that ranger's content doesn't reeeeeally look town
game is slow, idk what else

katsuki, bella, ?????? scumteam

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Katsuki-Aristophanes and one of Nahdia/Bellaphant/itlepip would be my guess.

oh yeah i forgot aristo was in this game also, he looks likely scum

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Hey, proddodge for the next couple hours. I'll be posting properly then (or at least reading properly again.)

hey buddy your iso is vacuous, chuck us a readslist?

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{Nina}
{Nahdia}
{Katsuki}
{Bellaphant}
{Dwlee, Aristophanes, Spiffeh}
{itlepip}
{laladucks}
{TehBrawlGuy}
{UpTooLate}
{pie}

surprised to see pie that low tbh
and aristophanes that high?????

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alright i'm back zzzzzzz

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imma go reverse chronological b/c wtfn

I will have to get back to you on Pie/Ranger. Gimme another day or two and I'll have something.

bro.

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.
You have (expired on 2016-06-25 17:00:00) to do so.

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You seemed to be playing plenty of attention when you got beetlejuiced into the thread after two votes.

I need to re-read your slot.

Mere happenstance.
However every time I come here I feel like there is just too much to deal with. I legit haven't had time for all these words!

:/ you just did the beetlejuice thing again and are trying to brush it off as a coinkidink? i sure will be sads if you're actually town, playing like dis :\

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Hello hello.

Haven't read a word. Actually I read two. Some. Hiplop saying that if beeboy bussed him he would swear to God.

I'll be back later.
VOTE: No Lynch

For now.

hi hi.

hope your aim is as good with scumhunting as it is with --nvm

i was suspish of utl. u r utl.

wondering what's with the no lynch vote..... it looks like it's intended to attract attention i guess? could've just not laid down a vote b/c obviously we're not no-lynching on purpose today. hmmm...
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I hadn't realised how contentless ari's iso was, yeah. I'm hoping him and lala answer my questions before deadline.
Spiffeh, do you wanna come talk to me?

@ mod, pip, kats, lala and dwlee all need prods.

k i'll get to ur questions when i reverse chronologically get to them
also stop trying to get me poked! year of the rude q:
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I'm sorry guys, I'm requesting replacement. A bunch of stuff popped up during an already busy week and I'm struggling to keep up. =(

:< yuteeeeeeeeeele

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errrrrr yeah i got distracted halfway through responding to the next post sorry

i intend to respond to everything addressed to me ya
would prefer bella or kats but i will vote aristo if neither of those are gonna happen today

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okay i got bored reading thru my previous game with bella uhh do i post the start of what i had or...

ok whatEV

I'm super conflicted about lala's last set of posting, because some of it vibed town, but there's an air of manufacturing seems super scummy.

Also, her meta read on me seems pulled out of the air: lala, can we talk about what this is based on?

no UR super scummy. i'm not manufacturing shit

number mafia was the only game we've been in together
i'll go read stuff from it now

guess i'll do a little compare+contrast then
ok well lol we both found each other scummy in that game and you pushed me for trying to get bbt lynched who turned out to actually be a dirty scumbumble

yeah that's when i got bored..........when it got to the part where i had to explain stuff............ i'll finish it tomorrow as well as respond to pie/other things addressed to me zzzzzzzzzz

uhhh i should lay down a vote i guess? since deadline's in a day... how many votes ppl have.
uhh looks like
aristo - 4
kats - 2
bella - 1

i find it a bit rich that i'm gonna make this vote w/o explaining my reazonz! but that's my theme this game i guess lol
VOTE: katsuki </3 i'm sry bae

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I kinda lol'd. I figured that when I backed off and offered Aris as a potential counterwagon, lala would probably find some bullshit reason to not want to support the wagon and go to vote someone else.

?????????? you're complaining that i'd rather lynch my stronger scumreads than a slot that's done nothing but fluff around and make excuses for not catching up all game, aristo legitimately could be town who just didn't realise he wouldn't have enough time to play this game at this time
that said, i'll hammer in like 10hrs if there won't be any other lynch today

....what about my 32 posts in a 62 page game made you think I could do better than this? I lurked the fuck out of that game because of irl issues as town. (oh fuck, de ja vu)

can we get a vc? I knew this was bs.

IDK I THINK I MISREMEMBERED KINDA TBH

you're still scummy tho......... but i admit my scumread is somewhat diminished.

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Any other specific questions for me to consider as I go?

what do you make of pie's pushes

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218 seems really low effort, tbh :/

Ducks.. um. I wasn't in Puppy Mafia, I modded it...

ahahaha
What does this mistake mean?
Lala could you answer why you made this mistake?

omg everyone prodding me

am worried about utl since she apparently dislikes rolling scum so maybe she rolled scum this time and that's why she's apathetic? ack.

This is why I replaced in, btw

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..............clicked submit instead of preview i'm good at this.................

218 seems really low effort, tbh :/

i do not deny this

Ducks.. um. I wasn't in Puppy Mafia, I modded it...

ahahaha
What does this mistake mean?
Lala could you answer why you made this mistake?

i already did

Ducks.. um. I wasn't

in

Puppy Mafia, I modded it...

Clarify please?

oh yeah :') i mean the newbie game (also had syl, always innocent, not sure who else) but ppl keep talking to me about puppy mafia so i got confused

drk talked to me about puppy mafia a lot so it was just a brainfart, i confused that game with the newbie game i played with utl. they both involved dogs...? i mean utl was the person with dog avatar in the newbie game but yeah

omg everyone prodding me

omg do something?

am worried about utl since she apparently dislikes rolling scum so maybe she rolled scum this time and that's why she's apathetic? ack.

This is why I replaced in, btw

.............b/c u wanted to be scum?

[lalaladucks]

that said, i'll hammer in like 10hrs if there won't be any other lynch today

oh aristo's back at L-2 now okeh...

so i don't wanna vote bella today any more.....

would lynch katsuki
or
would lynch aristo

[lalaladucks]

you should know as well as I do that I find it almost impossible to read people who play mostly based on charisma as opposed to laying out reasoning for their reads, which appears to be the type of player lala is.

you're implying that you believe i think i have a modicum of charisma?....in mafia?.....ha.....haha..ha

I thought it was a post that you'd make as scum but not a post that you'd make as town.
This means it is slightly more likely than default to be truthful, and therefore slightly more likely than default to mean lala is town.

not quite following this tho. you're saying you think 555 is more likely to have been written by scumpie, therefore the content of the post is more likely to be pie telling the truth?

surprised to see pie that low tbh

You really shouldn't be.

When I said I wanted to see pie flipped.

I wanted to see pie flipped

.
The only reason pie's not my vote now is because of pie's strength as a town player if my scumread is wrong.

oh ya ok.. i kinda wish we had colour-flipped pie now tbh...

i don't really see her trying to save herself or get out of it here, unless she thought someone would think along these lines and town read her for it

b/c i don't mind if i'm lynched, as long as once i'm dead, people pay attention to what i said and consider lynching the ppl i scumread

o lawd u wrote so many words in response to my post.............

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no, please don't fucking do this. there is nothing town about his latest posts, and I suspect lala's "town read" on him is disingenuous.

where the fuck did i say i townread aristo

rather, the way she's like "I would rather not lynch Ari bc there's a chance Ari could just be town who didn't have the time for the game" - despite the fact that it's not an issue of his activity, it's about what he does while he _is_ here, and nothing he's done while he has been here has looked town. she hasn't addressed my reasons for scum reading him at all, either.

i'm bollocks deep in 554 right now omg
i'm not saying his activity is the main issue, yeah his posting while he's here is shite but it COULD be b/c of just not having time...?? .....maybe? he just doesn't know what to do??........ i'm just playing devil's advocate here. i scumread him but would rather lynch katsuki

[lalaladucks]

am worried about utl since she apparently dislikes rolling scum so maybe she rolled scum this time and that's why she's apathetic? ack.

This is why I replaced in, btw

.............b/c u wanted to be scum?

y u no respond

[lalaladucks]

actually wait i didnt realize we're this close to the deadline people are just gonna apathy lynch aristo unless i do this arent they

Gladiate: Zulfy

k so i think we can only vote nahdia or zulfy now lol

VOTE: zulfy~

[lalaladucks]

o m g

hm reading this post you sound just
so reasonable and it makes me seem
so UNREASONABLE
prolly cos i am but eh
grrraarrrrrrrrrrrr

this is the kind of thing you keep posting that i don't really think makes any sense for you to post as town. first off, if you think i'm being "reasonable"... why did you turn around earlier and say that my push on you seemed to be so overblown that you didn't believe i'd actually think so strongly you were scum?

well b/c there's a pattern in games i play where my posting looks p scummy and teh scumbums like to say LALA'S A SCUM and i'm like ;-; but nuu i'm not.... hm..... townspeople incorrectly scumread me about half of the time but it happens more often with scum. and when the scum do it.... i feel it.. kind of.... sometimes....... ANYWAY SCUM CAN BE REASONABLE? reasonableness isn't alignment indicative imo. lots of people are capable of coming up with legitimate sounding analysis and reads as scum, perhaps just as much as town. there's a distinction between "reasonableness" and what's the word i'm looking for... like genuine motivated scumhunting.......i guess. i thought there was a word i was looking for but then stuff happened LIVE IN THE THREAD SO I INTERACTED THERE + SHIT

and moreover, if you admit i'm being reasonable, why do you keep consistently taking such a contrary approach towards what i'm posting to you?

contrary approach meaning what i say is contrary to what you say, or i'm contradicting myself?

there are even parts of this post that i'm responding to (532) that don't really look like you want to try to work things out with me here - you claiming i'm suspicious because "my reads are bad",

i expect ur reads to be gud b/c ur a gud town player so when they're bad i am supersuspiciamalicious? i'm not malicious tho it just sounded good at the end of the word i just made up.

you basically going "sorry, not sorry" when i tell you that i'm willing to engage you if you would actually respond to my posts -

i'll engage :< i'm trying to do it now

posts like 465 seem to imply the exact opposite, i.e. that you can't even do anything else in the game thread without feeling that i'd call you scum if you didn't respond to me first

i didn't expect you to stop calling me scum but you did!1! weird.

on the other hand i think it makes at least some sense from you as scum - it reads like you don't want to engage me, but don't know how to actually question the argument in a way that will make you look good

or i just DON'T KNOW HOW TO ARGUE AGAINST your analysis other than p much saying "ur wrong tho"?? idk.

zzzzzzzz i'll see about the rest of the post l8er

[lalaladucks]

nahdia isn't actually a gladiator? ohaha.

VOTE: katsuki
plz? any1?

[lalaladucks]

I really like Lalalala and I hope they are town! They make reading fun!

aw shucks

[lalaladucks]

"A raccoon riding a squirrel holding a Guinness."

A POX ON RACCOONS

"a bunch of sad, terrible squirrels"

blatant misrep. squirrels are swell and jolly

[lalaladucks]

zulfy's reaction to the fake gladiator read town to me tbh.

[lalaladucks]

lmfao

[lalaladucks]

o. u do dis all the time

Gladiate: Xkfyu

Gladiate: KuroiXHF

i know i was purposefully speaking jibberish

anyway

Gladiate: Nosferatu

whoops

Gladiate: Aneninen

[lalaladucks]

*holds out wing*

[lalaladucks]

i haven't really bothered to come up with a townread on lala yet.

What other people miss is irrelevant. I wasn't even planning on pressing you this hard on it but you refuse to admit it.

You saying that you haven't bothered to come up with a townread on someone means that you plan on townreading that person.

If you haven't bothered

reading

that person, then you don't know what kind of read you're gonna end up with, if you're town.

If you're

scum

, you have some idea on who you plan on townreading and scumreading. It's in that case that the above quote makes sense.

Also what happened to the other two quotes on me that made you "gladiate" me? You said I was virtually scumclaiming all over the page but it seems the only one you're actually concerned with is the one that points to you.


And pie, give me a break. You of all people should be able to see where I'm coming from.

Does anyone else disagree with my analysis?

i didn't even notice it when i read it initially. but it's weird yeah.

[lalaladucks]

not dwlee, aristo. he's town.

Spoiler: (my reason)

I like being carried

pieguy is town, didn't like that post from lala at all. The whole 'thinking out loud' feels gimmicky tbh.

hey wow we agree

why dont you actually vote lala then

see i don't think dwlee can be scum b/c he's doing nothing except try to get people to lynch me. if i'm lynched, i flip town, people go well hm who is incriminated by that flip?
pie? well yeah she pushed that pretty hard so might be scumz but at least she had

reasons

who else
hmm
oh yeah dwlee! dwlee? what's that guy done ALL GAME? let's iso him ah yes let's see......... well. not much here apart from trying to get lala lynched

like CAN SCUM ACTUALLY BE THAT DUMB? that they would do -basically nothing- apart from making pretty much contentless posts and trying to convince people to vote me

so congrats dwlee you've earned yourself a townread from this duck by not playing well

[lalaladucks]

ily spiffeh

[lalaladucks]

alright pie is town uhh
but i didn't read that whole post quoting my stuff

other people - - - >

?

oh yeah katsuki town
changed my mind on bella too, she can be town

i'm maybe feeling itle scum

i'm not sure on nahdia now so i agree with flipping her

VOTE: nahdia

and yeah idk i've been pretty bad so i understand if you guys lynch me after that

[lalaladucks]

any chance we can turn this into a marathon game

[lalaladucks]

rc replaced nina who flipped blue d1 though so prooooooobably town >.>

[lalaladucks]

aw ninja

[lalaladucks]

wouldn't vote: pie, spiff, dwlee, ranger, nahdia, rc, brawlguy, myself
would vote: zulfy, bella, kats, itle

like, zulfy's reaction to fake gladiator seemed town to me but yuteele was so scummy. and nahdia scumreads him and is blue (da ba dee ba). together these are good enough for me to vote him

so sure ok i guess

VOTE: itlepip

[lalaladucks]

ducks why am I suddenly someone who you would vote for again when you called me town earlier?

Your reads have not been genuine and you refused to engage me when I replaced in while you were busy calling my slot scum without reasoning.

Anyways

VOTE: ALALALALA**CKS

when i flip town, lynch this

katsuki i'm conflicted with my read on you because i don't want you to be scum but my gut tells me you are
tsq was scum anyway (says my gut) @_@

[lalaladucks]

spiff

also, can you walk me through this?

the majority of his reads i have agreed with, he's low-efforting here which reads town to me. i think he'd be trying harder not to be scummy if he actually were scum

[lalaladucks]

So why is it that when I was trying to sort you upon replacing in you decided to avoid me like the plague? If you were conflicted would you not have tried to sort me like you have many times before? I've never seen you do that in any of the other games I've played with you before, and you ewre town in all of them.

I'm just a juicy mislynch target to you and it saddens me that that's how you see me.

:/ this game is draining. i don't think i avoided you specifically but i will admit i avoid the thread b/c it's just not that fun when everyone's so srsbsns and asking for reasoning and effort!

idk what you want from me man, it feels like you're scumpainting me and that pings me hard

i don't recall you appealing to my emotion in previous games where you were town either though

[lalaladucks]

I'm not appealing to your emotion, I'm pointing out why you're scum.

I just want you to be town. It's all I ever wanted. : (

"it saddens me"
<<<<<<<<<<
appealing to FUCKING EMOTION

": ("
<<<
EMOTION

i am town you numbnut >____________>

[lalaladucks]

argh i hate mafia why do i sign up for this shit

[lalaladucks]

prodge pidgey

[lalaladucks]

well i got prodded so not really a prodge but posting woo

[lalaladucks]

they're ok
i caught like a 180cp one at the shops yesterday and then like a 20cp one and nicknamed it plebiotto b/c 20cp are you jokin m8 ridiculous

[lalaladucks]

sure is a lot of words im not going to read itt

Me
Pie am I voting lala

if i managed to put a lure module on a stop near you would you not vote me?

[lalaladucks]

so yeah
i didn't get invested in this game because if i get invested i get frustrated and stressssssed
therefore, apathy

[lalaladucks]

i have let u guys down sry
prob should've replaced out back when i first got bored but i never replace out cos i signed up for the game so it's my responsibility u know
but oh well my play has been baaaad so i can't blame y'all for lynching me

scum in [zulfy,katsuki,maaaaaaaybe bella,maaaaybe tbg] (assuming ranger conftowns)

don't like tbg's on me. feels too easy

[lalaladucks]

rip
ya i'm still town

[lalaladucks]

thanks so much for modding cheet, this was a pretty crazy game

grr @ katsuki

lol @ ending

[lalaladucks]

and the drawings were perfection, thanks ether!
my fave is prob the sleepykrew with wigglex4slapx2 ass