Shadowrun Mafia - Game Over

[Klingoncelt]

Draft: Sniper

Female, please.

[Klingoncelt]

I am probably going to use that avi instead of grovyle, I don't know.
I should talk to hebichan, though i haven't talked to her in awhile.

Meh.

Lynch Jaereed, we will do a lightning speed day 1.
Also I wanted Shaman, that person who stole shaman will pay~

I wanted Shaman more.

[Klingoncelt]

Anyway guys, it's my birthday in an hour and I'll be

V/LA for a couple days

.

Cheers

Happy birthday!!!

[Klingoncelt]

I have the worst headache right now, I'll be back later to vote & stuff.

[Klingoncelt]

This game isn't going to be enjoyable. I can already tell.

~Fire

Sure it will. Just get in on an adventure with me, it'll be super fun. With prizes.

[Klingoncelt]

...

...

...

Aren't you in a hydra?

[Klingoncelt]

Is anyone here half decent with, like, statistics or probabilities or whatever? Like, what kind of numbers do you think we should we be looking at for the team(s) to pass challenges?

Well, in that chart in post 2, look at the numbers. If a player you want has low numbers in some abilities/talents, then make sure one of your other picks has high(er) numbers in those abilities. That way you get more dice rolls per ability.

(My understanding is that the abilities needed for adventures aren't listed until

after

the mission is chosen.)

[Klingoncelt]

I'm thinking less about team size and more whether I should be aiming for the stats to be well rounded enough to handle something unexpected or just stack up the numbers on what I think will be relevant to the challenge.

Exactly.

You never know what to expect with the first challenge.

[Klingoncelt]

This game isn't going to be enjoyable. I can already tell.

~Fire

looks like fun from koggz perspective

Do I know you?
your avi seems familiar.....

fire town
koggz worst player bbmolla seen

Oh, I remember you.

[Klingoncelt]

This might be an incredibly dumb question: why does it matter if town or scum are sent on a mission?

I don't see any choice to deliberately fail a mission as being an option (presumably for scum). I also don't see how passing a mission is purely pro-town, or how failing a mission is pro-scum. It seems to me that scum on a mission could suffer glitches just as often as town players.

What is the danger in sending off a mission team that might include a scum?

This is where I laugh hysterically.



Karnos, Scum can collect whatever benefits the mission offers. Enough to offset the same benefits gained by Town.

[Klingoncelt]

1. He was definitely insinuating that.
2. It definitely does matter, and if you don't understand, I'd suggest you reread the adventure stuff here, look at SaGa Frontier Mafia's adventure mechanic (just in the OP) and Space Dandy Mafia.

And Bloodborne.

[Klingoncelt]

In reality, where we don't have magical scum detection on day 1, the alternative is to only send the most confirmed town, of which there might only be 2-4 players depending on who you ask. I don't think it's far fetched to suggest that those few characters might not be perfectly optimized for every mission.

This early in the game, there's no way to confirm Townies.

I was Townread in Bloodborne and SaGa by enough players to keep me on missions.

[Klingoncelt]

Also PeregrineV's lurkiness is a problem. They lurk a fuck ton as scum. This needs lots of poking. Same with KilingonCelt. Lots of lurkiness. Hell the MOD has more posts than people. This game feels lurktastic yet there is a lot of posting but from the same few voices.

I need more poking sticks and rope.

MathBlade is Scum.

They wouldn't be so concerned with PereV's and my standard NAI gameplay otherwise.

VOTE: MathBlade

[Klingoncelt]

I think that of all the games I've ever played, on 4 sites, I may have lurked twice for a couple hours.

[Klingoncelt]

KC, I have a very serious question for you.

Spoiler:

In your sig, you say snowflakes are cancer. Why?

I'll tell you after this game ends.

[Klingoncelt]

Karnos, Scum can collect whatever benefits the mission offers. Enough to offset the same benefits gained by Town.

IME, town with a bunch of power roles is a lot stronger than sucm with extra power roles.

I recently played the "Stack the Deck" setup, which is a setup with pre-game where scum can pick extra powers, but for each power they pick town gets another PR. Scum picked exactly 0 powers, and won nicely. At the end of the game there was a bit of discussion about it, and pretty much everyone agreed that it's not worth picking anything because the risk of giving town an extra PR is much greater than the gain of an extra scum power.

Why do you think the opposite is true here?

Regardless, this whole tangent has gotten pretty far off from my original thought. I'd agree if we knew exactly who was scum, don't send them on serious missions, but historically mafiascum.net games are pretty fucking awful at finding scum on day 1. It's show less than a 50% success rate out of my past games, which means excluding "scum" from a mission today you are just as likely to be excluding a town player. It's fake strategy, something a scum suggests that might sound good but realistically can't be acted upon.

I was Scum in SaGa and in Bloodborne. I speak from experience.

[Klingoncelt]

Also PeregrineV's lurkiness is a problem. They lurk a fuck ton as scum. This needs lots of poking. Same with KilingonCelt. Lots of lurkiness. Hell the MOD has more posts than people. This game feels lurktastic yet there is a lot of posting but from the same few voices.

I need more poking sticks and rope.

MathBlade is Scum.

They wouldn't be so concerned with PereV's and my standard NAI gameplay otherwise.

VOTE: MathBlade

It is AI here. However your responses after my push likely make you town. As town when you lurk and post you do try to sneak in periods when people are online. As scum it is a lot less. And as town you inexplicably scumread me a lot. I still remember the USMafia games maaaaan.

By calling out lurkers I can then see how they respond if at all to being called a lurker. You're wrong on me being scum but I think you are town for it.

Except that I don't lurk.

Ever.

As any alignment.

You are lying.

[Klingoncelt]

Detective Moonlight is being prodded.

VOTECOUNT 1.04

Space Cowboy (5):

Vedith, Daenerys and Dragons, Jaereed, karnos, Koggz

Grovyle (2):

Yume, Worldzmine

Daenerys and Dragons (1):

Albert B. Rampage

ABR (1):

PeregrineV

karnos (1):

MathBlade

Yume (1):

McMenno

Koggz (1):

Space Cowboy

Not Voting (5):

Klingoncelt, detective moonlight, Randomidget ,Reasonably Rational, Grovyle

With 17 Alive, it takes 9 to Lynch.
Deadline

: (expired on 2016-08-30 13:00:00)

The Party Leader is

JaeReed (The Face)

The Leader's Party is

Determined by PM and resolved at hammer.

The Lieutenant is (optional)

Determined by PM and resolved at hammer.

The Lieutenant's Party is (optional)

Determined by PM and resolved at hammer.

The Chosen Runs are

Determined by PM and resolved at hammer.

I'm voting for MathBlade...

[Klingoncelt]

Ok, I'll give my two cents on the state of the game.

Our"wagon" (really just the case on us in general) is predominantly scum-driven. Regardless of whether you think we're town or scum, you can't deny that the fact that most of the ~15 pages of the game has been devoted to attacking us is anti-town. Focusing on one person will not find the scum team. At best, it finds one person. At worst, you've wasted an entire day witch-hunting a single town.

The pace of this game really needs to change. And if, at the end of the day, you decide we are still a good lynch, so be it, but at the current pace, you will have to start from scratch again tomorrow.

PEdit: Which is a very serious problem, PV

Why would any wagon on Day 1 be predominately Scum-driven?

Any port in a storm, Scum will jump on any wagon that looks viable on Day 1.

Scum drive wagons on players that pose a threat to them - players are rarely a threat on Day 1.

[Klingoncelt]

..

You are a low content player. Always.

You are rarely around, and you do not post very much when you are around. Always.

These are not necessarily bad things, but they are things lurkers do. Just because you are not attempting to lurk, it does not mean that your play isn't analogous to that of lurkers.

Why are you so offended by someone choosing to use a shorthand for describing your play style?

-Cerb

Yes, I'm always a low-content player.

Deal.

It's better that I keep my low content limited to a few sentences in a few posts as opposed to wallposts of fluff, no?

But that's not what MathBlade said.

She said I lurk. Lurk means hang around and not do anything.

I don't do that.

I'll often log into a game and then have a shit-ton of meatworld things to do, so it takes me hours to go through a few pages.

But that's not lurking.

Sometimes I can come in, read through, make my post(s) and split.

That's not lurking.

I don't lurk. I don't have time to lurk.

[Klingoncelt]

JaeReed: Have you made your decisions regarding the mission(s)? I don't want details about your choices, I just want to know whether or not I should yell at people who attempt to end the day.

-Cerb

We have 10 days until deadline. Anyone trying to end the Day this early should be yelled at regardless of JaeReed's decisions.

[Klingoncelt]

..

You are a low content player. Always.

You are rarely around, and you do not post very much when you are around. Always.

These are not necessarily bad things, but they are things lurkers do. Just because you are not attempting to lurk, it does not mean that your play isn't analogous to that of lurkers.

Why are you so offended by someone choosing to use a shorthand for describing your play style?

-Cerb

Yes, I'm always a low-content player.

Deal.

It's better that I keep my low content limited to a few sentences in a few posts as opposed to wallposts of fluff, no?

But that's not what MathBlade said.

She said I lurk. Lurk means hang around and not do anything.

I don't do that.

I'll often log into a game and then have a shit-ton of meatworld things to do, so it takes me hours to go through a few pages.

But that's not lurking.

Sometimes I can come in, read through, make my post(s) and split.

That's not lurking.

I don't lurk. I don't have time to lurk.

It doesn't matter what your opinion is: what matters is mine. I absolutely do not agree with you on it. To me a low content poster is a lurker. There is a definition on the wiki called active lurking that sums up thoughts nicely. It is the amount of content that is provided to where I define a lurker.

Therefore until you do stuff like you are now, I will always consider you a lurker. To quote you: "Deal."

The question becomes why does how I perceive you bother you so much?

Because your personal opinion doesn't equal fact.

[Klingoncelt]

@dm: I don't believe it was a nonsensical comment to make either, I was merely giving an example of a reason why a post might be concerning coming from one slot while being unremarkable coming from another.

Walk me through the "no clue about cowboy". He's easily one of the slots with the most actual content to go off of.

Also, your catchup post didn't register for me at all. As in, there was nothing stated in it that made me want to ask you specific questions on the first read.
@Mathblade: Koggz is a she, and the third person thing is standard posting for her. Seconding the question about the selective mechanics discussion. Also, I already asked KC why she cared about your opinion, and she didn't bother answering.

-Cerb

Pretty sure I did answer.

[Klingoncelt]

Pedit: KlingonCelt as they said have many different things to do in meat world at times. I asked again specifically to see if a certain response comes up. But now that you mentioned ignoring it is invalid. *sigh*

Umm... are you wanting me to post exactly what I'm doing minute-to-minute? Won't be happening.

In a nutshell I'm doing housework, charging the electronics ahead of that tornado in Dayton that's coming my way, and finally Step-Granddaughter's nose stopped bleeding after several hours. Oh, and looking up car parts. And the Olympics.

[Klingoncelt]

You responded to the post, but your response did not include a reason why you care if mathblade calls you a lurker.

-Cerb

I care because it's a dishonest representation.

[Klingoncelt]

I have waaaaaaaaaaay too many scumreads. *Yanks hair on head*

It's better to have too many Scumreads than too many Townreads.

True story.

[Klingoncelt]

I would like all people who can view the matrix/astral pt to claim this, please

I have no access whatsoever to either of the PTs at this time.

[Klingoncelt]

I want a post restriction!!! :p Everyone should read my poems in space dandy 2.

-Cerb

No.

No poems.

[Klingoncelt]

I kind of think Cerb is scum in this game.

~Fire

I kind of agree.

[Klingoncelt]

So...

McMenno and Space Cowboy are both looking pretty dang Scummy.

Who to vote for first?

Hmmm...

Think I'll go here:

VOTE: McMenno

[Klingoncelt]

I kind of think Cerb is scum in this game.

~Fire

I kind of agree.

why?

The hydra's less aggressive than usual. Less wordy, not so energetic as I'm used to seeing. It could mean nothing, I expect Cerb to be a little shellshocked after Bloodborne, and it is just Day 1, but I'm keeping an eye on RR.

[Klingoncelt]

Also, Space Cowboy is confirmed scum, lets get him!

So you're the third Scum?

[Klingoncelt]

Both Detective Moonlight and karnos confirmed that. Randomidget is also in that PT, but he did not say anything about it.

McMeno's smarter than that (Only just, but still smarter).
I don't buy it.

Yep, you're the 3rd Scum.

[Klingoncelt]

VOTE: McMenno

L-1

[Klingoncelt]

VOTE: Karnos

L-1


I'm having trouble with the idea of a framer working on a public daycop.

[Klingoncelt]

We have the ability to permanently lock one mission from being run going forward. ABR's suggestion was to lock the mission that would break people from jail, his reasoning being that the sooner we block all ways we can break people out, the sooner we're able to see flips. (Honestly, I think the fastest way to do that is to break two people out of jail as soon as possible.) We still haven't chosen a mission to lock, so Cakes asked for thoughts on how best to utilize the reward. I don't think anyone has responded.

-Daenerys

I'm not nuts about the idea of breaking people out, I'd hate to have to lynch Scum twice.

ABR is very likely Town.

[Klingoncelt]

Don't do a prison break, that's too scummy.

[Klingoncelt]

Fuck mod just told The Great and Powerful Trixie

they

failed again. The great and powerful Trixie thought only I and We

No. "I me my myself and Mine" all count. God fucking damn it this post restriction is hard.

What about "they?"

[Klingoncelt]

Wait guys I can gigure out how to prison break w/ missions

Does Random have any opinion at all about the recent posts?

The Pronoun confused MathBlade doesn't like your lack of content.

@random why dont you use the matrix pt anymore

-S

[Klingoncelt]

V/LA until the 6th.

I should be able to get in here to post...

[Klingoncelt]

I dont care if mathblade is not selected for a mission. Shes not a townread.

Don't let yourself get too controlling... Town Leader is good, Town Dictator not so much.

[Klingoncelt]

UNVOTE:

[Klingoncelt]

1) You know who town is and genuinely think that because of your stats town would pick you.

2) You are town but think stats are more important than townreads on missions

...Wait a minute who said that...Or right confirmed scum.

I think reasons should be listed on why you think I or anyone for that matter is scum or town. You can't just randomly decide someone is a certain alignment with no reasons. Which has been done repeatedly in this thread. Not listing reasons for a read is just bad play imo. Because it shows nothing. For all I know you could be scum picking names out of the air.

@WorldzMine

- If you want to go on a mission, you have to look Townish. Scumhunting is a good way to do that. Townhunting is usually acceptable.

There's a conversation going on now about why Karnos is Scum. Do you agree with him? Do you agree with the points made against him? Why/why not?

Do you think Jaereed's idea is a good one? Why/why not?

[Klingoncelt]

@Worldz if you want to be townread then do something towards solving the game instead of pushing how you should be on runs due to stats or how you "townslipped" (you didn't). Analyze, give stances, do something is isn't centered around you wanting to be on a freaking run, man.

No. Absolutely not, why should I have to do a bunch of bullshit that no one else had to do/did not do, to be a part of the fucking game. I'm on the edge of telling you all to go fuck yourselves with you shitty reads and bullshit cliques that have formed for no fucking reason.

WorldzMine, I've been in a bunch of game like this. It's not necessarily a clique thing. It's more likely Scum/Town trying to keep the other side out. Your character has nice skill levels, you'll probably get picked eventually.

[Klingoncelt]

I don't trust mathblade or randomidget

I don't, either.

VOTE: MathBlade

[Klingoncelt]

I don't like Jaereed's plan at all.

We lynched Space Cowboy and McMenno because we thought they were Sum. Why break them out? If you have to do this, why not wait until more players are lynched and you have a bigger pool to choose from?

[Klingoncelt]

RE: Potential for scum!Math - Can someone explain why? How?

Please?

@There are two people with the ability to break out of prison and I'm one of them. Once no one has the potential to break out anymore (as in the people with the abilities are either dead or used them) then we get flips from prison.
Which means I will either need to die or be lynched to escape at some stage. We can hold off but keep in mind it'll be the only thing that will keep us from getting flips once the prison break happens (assuming someone escapes with that).

Oh, I see. I thought you could break one or two of the already jailed out.

Okay, I like your plan now.

[Klingoncelt]

UNVOTE:

[Klingoncelt]

I dont like klingon, i find him a lil scummy
Where is the town wagon behind this?

-S

You lose credibility with your reads when you can't get the clearly indicated gender right.

Klingon's a "her."

[Klingoncelt]

One of Mathblade and koggz is a serial killer...

Wait - what? How?

I could see one - or both being Scum, but one definitely being an SK?

Talk to me. What info do you have that can help Town?

[Klingoncelt]

One of Mathblade and koggz is a serial killer, and they are both scum trying to kill the other. Worldz is town. I think random and PV are scum.

Do you mean karnos? Why do you think Math is scum and Worldz town?

-Froot

Yes, karnos. Worldz is relatable.

Okay, that makes a wee bit more sense except you're kinda specific with the SK thing. Explain that, please.

[Klingoncelt]

@Albert B. Rampage

- Who did you send a letter to Night 1? This is very important.

[Klingoncelt]

Drixx my biggest townread.

Okay.

[Klingoncelt]

Don't have time to read, but ABR has left the Astral PT.

My understanding is that since he has left it, he can no longer be affected by things that can affect people in the Astral PT.

It really sounds like he knows something's up or something's coming. Wouldn't think too much of it, considering it is ABR, but suddenly he has a hard-on for me.

Willing to toss his ass into jail for that combination.
Willing to toss Yume into jail for also doing crap in the PT.

And also looking at Karnos vig thing, if the Matrix is the science PT, then ABR is even worse.

Vote: ABR

Change your vote.

I have good reason to believe that ABR is Town.

Because reasons.

[Klingoncelt]

This game is so frickin' slowwww. I'm trying to play out my obligation but it's hard to do. We need flip and deaths so much. The way it is right now it feels like we are stuck in a tunnel where we can see the light and way out soooo far away, but it's taking forever to get there as things are right now.

You must be very young.

Learn to be patient. You'll never survive middle age otherwise.

[Klingoncelt]

Drixx my biggest townread.

Okay.

Significance?

What are your reasons?

Somehow ABR's letter wound up in my mailbox.

There's nothing much in it, the usual "Ohai, I haz Townz I thinks u haz townz 2" stuff.
If ABR were Scum, he wouldn't send a letter to someone he was going to kill.

[Klingoncelt]

"Shadowfire"

[Klingoncelt]

Drixx my biggest townread.

Okay.

Significance?

What are your reasons?

Somehow ABR's letter wound up in my mailbox.

There's nothing much in it, the usual "Ohai, I haz Townz I thinks u haz townz 2" stuff.
If ABR were Scum, he wouldn't send a letter to someone he was going to kill.

What makes you think he would kill you? And if you weren't the intended recipient then how did you get it? The first post says that shouldn't happen. So let's assume ABR sent this to you. Then it would make more sense to do so from a buddying or info leak perspective. I agree he wouldn't send it to someone he was going to kill but I definitely do not think this makes ABR town. ABR is a strategic player. I don't see him doing just spam as either alignment. But especially town.

I know what I use my message for each night and it sure isn't spam.

I never said anything about ABR killing me. Drixx is dead. I thought it was possible that ABR killed him. But would you send a letter to someone you were going to kill? I wouldn't. So ABR sending the letter to Drixx means ABR did not kill Drixx.

Then Karnos confessed to killing Drixx, so the letter didn't matter.

And nevermind how I got the letter, it's part of the game's mechanics, through a certain player.

[Klingoncelt]

I had code words in my letter to Drixx. Use some code words to authenticate that you did in fact receive my letter and not someone pretending to be me.

Post 1398: "Shadowfire"

I thought you'd post your response word but you didn't.

Here's the other Drixx word: "Mine"

Now, post your response word, please.

[Klingoncelt]

That said
Everyone voting mathblade is voting terribly and anti town
Everyone voting abr is voting terribly
Everyone voting PV is voting terribly.
I think nobody is voting jae so thats fine.

Move to any player that is not one of the above, or D&D, or karnos.

That means yume, klingon, WORLDZ, random are all okay votes.
WORLDZ s the best vote.

-S

Idiot.

I'm Town.

Pay attention or replace out.

[Klingoncelt]

I am not sure how you see ABR as town when they are suggesting that an SK exists when the OP set up posts say town or scum. There were two colors green or red. Ergo single ball. I bring this up and ABR doesn't interact with it at all. ABR's slot might as well be replaced with an RNG robot that declared a slot is scum and repeats it.

However I also find it completely weird what KlingonCelt is doing. It looks like blatant message/rolefishing. It seems really odd and scary that ABR said the message went to Drixx but KlingonCelt claimed to have received a copy when redirection is impossible.

VOTE: Unvote

Something is going on there that I think will clarify which of the two are scum. Because while I think that ABR's responses are shitty I have to determine where it is just his arrogant incorrect self or if KlingonCelt is scum.

Neither of us is Scum.

ABR really did send a letter to Drixx. That he sent a letter to Drixx makes it very unlikely that he's Scum.

This isn't a matter of redirection, my getting the note doesn't mean there's a redirector.

It's specific to someone's PM, some action (like the intended recipient being killed? I don't know) can trigger a letter to be forwarded to a different address. Not exactly the same as redirection.

[Klingoncelt]

VOTE: Yume


Prodded 3 times here, yet definitely active in other games.

[Klingoncelt]

VOTE: Yume


Prodded 3 times here, yet definitely active in other games.

This vote is horrible IMO.

Yume crumbed <redacted> move on please.

I didn't notice any crumbs.

I did notice her posting in other games.

But, I don't want the Day to end in a No Lynch, so...

VOTE: PeregrineV

[Klingoncelt]

Combining that with what ABR said makes no sense. Between the lack of content from Worldz, Peregrine V, and Random's defense of ABR (which is sketchy as hell) scum has got to be in these three.

ABR always is smart as either alignment. The fact he is completely messing up simple things confuses me. I also don't like how Kling is town for supposedly having the message. What is possible is that they pick up the message off their corpse if Kling killed Drixx. After all we only have conf scum word for it.

Who is "confirmed" Scum?

Me? No, I'm not Scum at all.

ABR?

No. That he sent the letter to Drixx indicates that he's Town.

Please don't use the word "confirmed," btw, that's a Mod-only word.

[Klingoncelt]

Happy Scumday, MathBlade!

[Klingoncelt]

And Klingon I will use it because it is confirmed via mod flip. Confirmed is confirmed. It has been demonstrated a frame is impossible. If you can show how Karnos could have been framed when it was before NAR and not day then I will stop using confirmed. I will use things that reflect reality.

I think you want Karnos to be so desperately not confirmed scum and for your vote of Peregrine V to not be AI but IMHO it is. Both you and ABR are voting with confirmed scum. Vedith and D&D also need additional scrutiny.

Sorry.

Too many people have been calling gut feeling 'confirmed' lately.

I do think Karnos is Scum, and you should shoot him tonight.

I'd be more than happy to lynch the Vedith slot

[Klingoncelt]

I'm more comfortable with this than voting PereV.

VOTE: Randomidget

[Klingoncelt]

No new posts in almost 24 hours lol

Ooops, I knew I forgot something!

[Klingoncelt]

Just remember after MathBlade shoots me and I flip green, there is confirmed scum between JaeReed:MathBlade

If scum block or redirect the shot, GG town. Was nice playing.

Quoting just in case.

[Klingoncelt]

I don't think it is fair to post after hammer as last time the thread was locked :/ If majority thinks it is I will but otherwise until thread lock consider me dodging the prod.

Unfair?

How so?

I've been in games where Twilight happened some Days and not others.

[Klingoncelt]

No new posts in almost 24 hours lol

Ooops, I knew I forgot something!

Also, I think you are scum. I'd like some reads to tomorrow (D3) please.

Well, you think wrong. Some reads you shall have D3.

[Klingoncelt]

I think KlingonCelt is scum too but I can't wrap my head around why Klingon as scum would announce receiving a message not intended for them. I can't see why town Klingon would do it either.

What do you think about that and how would you rectify that wig your scumread?

Wig?

I announced it because I tend to die early in games. I've recently decided to info dump asap to at least give Town a little bit to work with.

[Klingoncelt]

With*

Autocorrect is out to murder me I swear.

Autocorrect is the Devil's Handmaiden. Disable that evil bitch.

[Klingoncelt]

So kilingon claimed they can see other people messages ... huh

can anyone point me to the place she claimed that?

I saw ABR's letter to Drixx. It makes ABR obvTown.

I don't think I can read everyone's letters. Maybe just ABR's. Maybe someone had a copy of that letter sent to me, a copy of someone else's letter will go to another player tonight? I guess we'll see.

[Klingoncelt]

Oh - Hi, FA!

[Klingoncelt]

hey klingon

who are scum and why? can you give me your collected reads and thought summery as it stands?

pedit : yeah Jaread I was just checking Drixx role pm.

so drixx was also in that mission last night , and he was in matrix pt

@matrix pt member(s) : Drixx told anything about volentuiary joining the matrix pt or someone force transferred him there?

@mod could drixx use both of his abilities in the same day phase?

It's hard to tell with just two flips...

I'm Town, and so is ABR. I don't trust WorldsMine.

[Klingoncelt]

@KC what is your read on Math ?

I dunno. Right now I have her as Town. Night actions will tell us for sure.

[Klingoncelt]

Them.

Most people are calling me he or she. I am a them please.

My apologies.

[Klingoncelt]

It's hard to tell with just two flips...

I'm Town, and so is ABR. I don't trust WorldsMine.

are you sure the message your recieved was the same message abr sent to drixx?

have you checked the content with ABR?

Are you sure ABR sent that message to Drixx as well or was it just sent to you so you think it was sent to abr?

IS it modconfirmed that the message was ABR's to Drixx or not?

There were codes in the letter, ABR & I cross-confirmed in-thread:

1380
1381
1397
1398
1431
1434

[Klingoncelt]

House replaces Vedith.

This thread will remain open until Thursday at 9:00 AM PST to allow House time to get familiar with the mechanics and the mod to recover from being ill.

House - woot!

Mod - Get well soon!

[Klingoncelt]

VOTECOUNT 2.Final

...

The Party Leader is

sooperdetective (The Technomancer)

The Leader's Party is

Determined by PM and resolved at hammer.

The Lieutenant is (optional)

Determined by PM and resolved at hammer.

The Lieutenant's Party is (optional)

Determined by PM and resolved at hammer.

The Chosen Runs are

Determined by PM and resolved at hammer.

WorldzMine is Accused of Being Scum

Hammer has been reached. Thread will remain open until all replacements are found. Randommidget will be sent to prison at that time.

Will this be updated too, please?

[Klingoncelt]

Scum put a bunch of crap on our mission (added an extra guard, made the mission risky so that physical violence made a risk of going to prison)
PV volunteered to fight the guards and failed, which is how he got sent to prison

We tried to sneak around after that but we failed. The only thing the fail did was give House a vig shot which doesn't really make sense as a failure but it was good so we rolled with it.
Math isn't cleared since Karnos was a traitor apparently but we still feel he is town.

We know who House targeted, so if they claim it then they should be conftown. If they don't then confscum.

I (not sure about lilith) think Klingon is scum now. I also have a scum lean on Sooper now for their terrible PV defense (House also had a scumread on them), but really need to see PV's flip.

-dragons

Is there a reason for suspecting me?

No, there isn't.

[Klingoncelt]

Frozen exited astral PT 1min before night lol. House vannilized me and said that if he died, D&D was scum because they knew he was gonna recruit me and make me masons with him. Anyway now im just vanilla and i didnt join any pt since house is dead.

My ability was to make people go to the top of the RAS. I used n1 on drixx and n2 on mathblade so she could kill karnos without anyone interfering with her.

Did you send MathBlade a letter?

[Klingoncelt]

Time to resolve this as well :

Anyone recived any message last night which obviously is not theirs?

Ok KC this need to get resolved :

ok some questions @KC :

1 - was there any hints from the mod that the message you recieved was a copy ? was there any difference in topic / time / whatever in receiving it?

2 - have you received any other messages? If yes was there a message from my slot included or not?

Answer this next time your online - no exception is acceptable.

The thread got locked before I could reply on Day 1.

Anyway, it was a copy. I was notified at Day2start, just before the thread was unlocked.

I received a copy of a message today. Honestly I haven't read it yet, I'll skim it now.

It's not from you.

Nobody sent me a letter directly.

It's sent to a living player. I won't divulge the contents just now. Not safe.

[Klingoncelt]

And more importantly suggest baby names to me

I'm going to have a boy in 2 months !

Congratulations!

[Klingoncelt]

ok so its MODconfirmed that your messages are a copy.

and its not a part of your role

and you didn't recieve anything from my slot in night 1 nor in night 2

right?

No, all I got were the letters to Drixx and the letter last Night that wasn't yours.

Did you send me letters?

[Klingoncelt]

VOTE: Daenerys and Dragons

[Klingoncelt]

Going to bed now... Back in a few hours.

[Klingoncelt]

@Klingon If anyone sent letters The Great and Powerful Trixie hasn't received them.

so your the living player and you didn't recieve the message correct?

KC you confirm the message was to mathblade yes?

I got a letter sent to a living player. The letter suggested that a similar letter would be sent to MathBlade. I forgot that everyone can only send 1 letter per Night, so the author will likely send their letter to them tonight.

[Klingoncelt]

the only reason I'm not voting you right now is because I'm null on worldz and the KC message thingi need to get resolved.

There's no resolution possible on the message thing. I can't reveal anything about it - it could lead to a Townie getting NK'd.

[Klingoncelt]

what were rewards for n2 mission on jae's side?

something which will be revealed after everyone answering this :

did any of your actions get blocked or redirected? I don't need to know what, just a no or a yes

No. Not blocked.

[Klingoncelt]

I liked Silas and Milo.

Milo is great.

Got any other ideas ABR?

And what about for my future baby girl that will happen when I find a wife?

Ava's a pretty name.

I'm partial to the name Amelia myself, if Ava doesn't suit you, or if you have a bunch of kids.

[Klingoncelt]

I don't want to know the sender but I like to have a confirmation from anyone that they received a message form someone else who hinted they will send the same message to math tonight

this is really mind breaking ... and I have no idea if its even worth researching >.>

what are your reads KC?

You, ABR, Math - Town

Sooperdetective, Jaereed, Worldzmine - Lean Town

D&D - Scum

[Klingoncelt]

You, ABR, Math - Town

Sooperdetective, Jaereed, Worldzmine - Lean Town

D&D - Scum

include the jailed people in your read lists please

@Everyone reads on jailed people, who are most likely town and why.

Space Cowboy - Lean Town

McMenno, PeregrineV - Scum

Randomidget - Definitely Scum (Townreads D&D, jumps off the Karnos wagon... ISO him.)

[Klingoncelt]

Hey I will get to this in a bit can someone repost any questions they might have had for me? I plan to iso myself to this post when I can and will answer stuff from there.

I've been keeping up with reading so far but my uncle is in the hospital (throat closing up and no one knows why) so I'm not in a mind to actually play at this stage. Sorry. I'm just not dealing well even though they've stabilized him for now.

I hope he recovers soon.

[Klingoncelt]

You, ABR, Math - Town

Sooperdetective, Jaereed, Worldzmine - Lean Town

D&D - Scum

include the jailed people in your read lists please

@Everyone reads on jailed people, who are most likely town and why.

Space Cowboy - Lean Town

McMenno, PeregrineV - Scum

Randomidget - Definitely Scum (Townreads D&D, jumps off the Karnos wagon... ISO him.)

I find your reads seemingly vise versa of where I am standing atm. guide me through your pov

I'm working on a migraine right now. Remind me later tonight (Thursday) and I'll go through the list.

[Klingoncelt]

Klingon isn't a strong townread of mine so I'd replace her with Sooper.

I haven't been on any missions, and I'm not in either of the PTs, so my interacting with everyone else is very limited.

I don't expect most players to have much of a read on me. just saying.

[Klingoncelt]

EHEM

ABR , KC , scout and the Worldz slot

Opinion on removing prison break rune

I honestly don't know.

I want to see the flips, that's my priority.

But I don't want to put Town at risk.

[Klingoncelt]

Could klingon try to participate more as well?

-S

I apologize to everyone. I had some issues the past 72 hours. I can be here more now.

I can say this with extreme confidence: ABR, Sooper, FA, and MathBlade are Town.

[Klingoncelt]

All I'm saying is, everyone seems to think D&D is being framed but you can look at it differently and see mathblade being framed.
(This is all assuming my townread on math is correct)

-S

I don't think D&D is being framed.

That would require a framer.

Who is the framer?

Why is D&D the only one that got framed in the entire game?

[Klingoncelt]

Could klingon try to participate more as well?

-S

I apologize to everyone. I had some issues the past 72 hours. I can be here more now.

I can say this with extreme confidence: ABR, Sooper, FA, and MathBlade are Town.

I'm interested to know more about your ABR and sooper reads

ABR sent the first letter to Drixx. Who sends a letter to someone they're going to kill?

If ABR were Scum and the Scumteam planned on killing Drixx in the future, sending him a letter would be pretty extreme buddying.

Would ABR do that? I doubt it.

I also saw the letter that MathBlade sent. Same deal, it's very unlikely that Scum would send a note like that to an intended victim.

I mean sure, it's remotely possible, but not at all probable.

I can't say more, other than it has to do with my role mechanics.

[Klingoncelt]

not framed with a framer

framed with two of the members of that adventure pt died to make him look really bad

Amazing Coincidence is even worse than Framer.

[Klingoncelt]

The scumteam didn't plan on killing drixx. I have a hard time believing you're paying this little attention to the game as town.

You also expressly stated this day phase that you got a letter that was going to be sent to math, not that you received one that Math sent.

Why wouldn't they plan on killing Drixx? He has experience with Varsoon where Drixx was Town and Varsoon Scum. One of the funniest games I ever played.

If ABR were Scum, Drixx should have been his primary target.

What I say about my Night Actions is whatever I feel like revealing. Sometimes it's better to keep some things secret, no?

Ask MathBlade what she thinks. I definitely got my mitts on someone's letter.

[Klingoncelt]

40-42 is house derping

Also I don't think this is very clear.
Scum may not have even been trying to frame us. They may have just killed House for being a strong town player, and just got lucky now with how much suspicion it put on us. There doesn't have to be a PT spy <.<

-dragons

House is not known for derping.

Red flags are waving.


And after all this time you decide you weren't framed after all, it was Amazing Coincidence.

[Klingoncelt]

Wait a minute you saw mathblade message from last night?

First word: So.
Last word: know.

[Klingoncelt]

although the fact she still thinks Drixx was scum kill .

I thought Karnos admitted to it. Didn't Karnos flip Scum?

[Klingoncelt]

"THRILL OF THE CHASE" AKA MANAGING YOUR INVESTMENTS - YOU CAN OVERSEE BUT NOT POST IN THE ASTRAL, MATRIX, AND PRISON PTS. YOU HAVE A ONE USE NIGHTVIG FOR THESE PTS, IF YOU RETAIN ACCESS. IF YOUR VIG FAILS TWICE FOR WHATEVER REASON, IT TURNS INTO A DAYVIG.


Oh well in that case Drixx was absolutely Karnos's murder kill.

I missed that.

But it's still a Scum kill, a bonus kill.

[Klingoncelt]

Deadline is frozen

<.< I deny this. I am no kind of deadline or anything similar.

lol

[Klingoncelt]

kling + d&d = scum?

No, I'm Town.

I haven't been on any adventures, I'm not in any PTs, so other than those letters I'm very uninformed. I'm doing the best that I can.

Speculate: What sort of roles would Scum have, do you think?

[Klingoncelt]

although the fact she still thinks Drixx was scum kill .

I thought Karnos admitted to it. Didn't Karnos flip Scum?

read karnoos flip omg

karnoos was a traitor matrix/asteral/jail vig

Traitor.

How the hell did I miss that?

It doesn't matter, though. If ABR were Scum, Drixx would be a priority kill for him. ABR did not kill him, he sent Drixx a letter. Therefore ABR is Town.

[Klingoncelt]

Speculate: What sort of roles would Scum have, do you think?

assuming 3 scums If I was setup maker I would put a inspecting ability , maybe a protective ability and something to mess with adventures. maybe giving one of them

I would make their investigator weak though in a way that is pretty much useful for knowing whats going on in game.

but thats guessing ... where are you going with this?

I'm re-reading the game now that I have a bit of time. It helps if I know what to look for.

[Klingoncelt]

If ABR were Scum, Drixx would be a priority kill for him. ABR did not kill him, he sent Drixx a letter. Therefore ABR is Town.

I'm confused in the logic behind this but I sense honesty?

why you think scum!ABR would kill Drixx before anyone else?

Drixx is a formidable foe.

But I didn't specify that Drixx would be killed before anyone else. Just that he would be a priority for ABR. The other Scums might want to kill someone else first.

Still, even if you're planning deliberately to wait until, say, Day 5 to kill someone, are you going to send them a letter? No. No one does that.

[Klingoncelt]

I'm V/LA for the next couple days. I have the flu and the fever makes my brain not work. Bad for Scumhunting.

[Klingoncelt]

1) ABR do you also know the contents of the message? Either through someone telling you or a power thing or PT or something else? I am not asking how I am asking if.

No, I have no clue what you are talking about, or about baby names or anything else.

You were incredibly accurate in responding to it though

I noticed the accurate response too.

[Klingoncelt]

Mod - If someone is NK'd, does their letter (if they wrote one) get sent, or no?

[Klingoncelt]

thinking SC was town and MC was scum

assuming first slip was real he needed to use his day vig ability as soon as possible. he doubt casted on SC (but why) , SC claimed they can "prove" their town and he shot them down without hesitate.

the problem with this is why he didn't doubt cast on anyone else if he was sure he is screwed. His second slip seems Idiotic as fuck and the fact it was followed with that sjot it makes no sense if SC was town.

WIFOM

It looks to me like McMenno was trying to make it look as though he was trying to frame Cowboy as his partner so that everyone would read Cowboy as Town.

[Klingoncelt]

I need to get the answer from Sooper

is KC receiving message involved in your last post 3 lines?

I want Sooper to answer this, but FA, I don't understand what "your last post 3 lines" means.

[Klingoncelt]

Also I'm trying to find this post where someone said that we faked the PT because "House wouldn't derp" but I can't find the post so this is my response to that.

Posts 40-42 Cakes described as "house derping."
Post 40 is him correcting his spelling from post 39
Post 41 is him taking back a question to the mod because it was answered in the mission OP
Post 42 is him adding on a qualification to post 39 in that PV would be the best person to go IF he was elementalist (which of course he was)

Idk why "House would not derp" is an argument against us but apparently it came up so.

-Daenerys

House is incapable of derp.

[Klingoncelt]

Also I'm trying to find this post where someone said that we faked the PT because "House wouldn't derp" but I can't find the post so this is my response to that.

Posts 40-42 Cakes described as "house derping."
Post 40 is him correcting his spelling from post 39
Post 41 is him taking back a question to the mod because it was answered in the mission OP
Post 42 is him adding on a qualification to post 39 in that PV would be the best person to go IF he was elementalist (which of course he was)

Idk why "House would not derp" is an argument against us but apparently it came up so.

-Daenerys

House is incapable of derp.

what the actual FUCK are you telling me that you don't believe our paraphrase of the mission PT because HOUSE CORRECTED HIS SPELLING AND TOOK BACK A QUESTION THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN ANSWERED????

I never said you faked the PT.
House can't derp any more than he can sprout wings and fly. Regardless of alignment.

Post 40 is clearly not derp.
Post 41 intrigues me. What was the question?
Also, Post 25, what was PV's question?

Post 42 is telling, as are Posts 39, 43, 44, 45, and 46.

1-12 is discussion of mechanics and the best option to take
13 PV tells House and us to attempt the mission
14-24 is mechanics discussion
25 PV asks the mod a question suggesting we do the mission
26-32 is more mechanics
33 House says he wants to take the guard out via combat
34-38 mechanics
39 House tells PV to take out the guard
40-42 is house derping
43 House votes for PV to fight the guard
44 PV asks us whether we prefer to fight or use charisma, completely ignoring House
45 House yells at PV to submit the action
46 PV gives in and does the action

Why were House and PV not on the same page?

[Klingoncelt]

From what Frozen has told me, Sooper is confscum.

My brain shut off with the fever, so I need you to lay out the case like I'm 5 years old.

Also, there might have been a Mod error.

[Klingoncelt]

This is awkward...

I received explaination from the mod.
A certain action performed on a certain target has several parts, and apparently seeing received/sent messages is one of them. It's not a standard role so I didn't even notice.

That also means I know kling's role, and kling should be able to confirm me as well.
@Kling: do you agree with the fact there were 3 people doing something on the target, including you?

@FA: I sent my message to jae, someone both you and i trusted.

@abr don't get your hopes up. You thought pv would flip scum and i'm pretty sure they wont. You hope we flip scum but i ensure you that you are wrong AGAIN. I'm pretty fucking tired of your random pushes on everyone, not just on me.

-S

I agree, there were 3 people doing something on the target, including me.

Why did the Mod give you my role?

[Klingoncelt]

Okay if its abr and he claimed

Abr is NOT a strongmanizer. He is a NAR promoter, WHICH I ALREADY CLAIMED TO YOU A WHILE AGO
He can put an action outside of NAR, by my knowledge thats not just a strongmanizer.

I targeted worldz, my mind was derping. It was public knowledge that a bounty was placed on him by karnos D2.

KC does know the killer if she was on drixx, so you are right, she should have said something about it.

-S

I was on ABR.

[Klingoncelt]

so she saw my message night 1 as well according to your claim.

unless she was on ABR not Drixx.

ok , I need to stop for tonight. will reread some stuff and organize my thought process about this.

She sees all sent and received so if you sent to her target yes she did

No I don't.

I just get copies of the ones sent.

[Klingoncelt]

Also, there might have been a Mod error.

I will shoot you down just for this sentense.

and I'm sirious KC.

you are claiming you are not informed about what was the thing I was talking about and you are suggesting there was a mod error any way?

There was a Mod error, but that's a good thing. Had the instance NOT been a Mod error, then the game state would be altered. So everything's cool.

[Klingoncelt]

Fine. Talk to me about Sooper and KC while I get dressed for work.

Regarding KC -- I find it odd I did not receive a single message last night. I know you got mine because of how you posted. I find it odd I did not get a message.

Regarding Sooper -- Are you arguing Sooper is telling the truth and is therefore scum?

It seems like you are starting from both people telling the truth and then finding scum and still assuming they are telling the truth. If either one of them is scum what they have claimed gets treated with as much truth as a used car salesman with a quota.

Were you expecting a message? Who from? Why?

[Klingoncelt]

@klingon: my pm clearly states that you can see sent AND received messages, as well as 2 other things. If FA read through it correctly she knows what 2 actions. Jae as well. Is it or isn't it called nerfed agent?

-S

You're right, I checked my Role PM and I

can

see received messages. I guess that ABR didn't receive any on Night 1 and Math didn't receive any on Night 2.

I'm basically a watcher/tracker with limitations. I can see *most of those* who come to visit, and I can see *most of those* the target visits. Dropping off letters counts as a visit.

I'm an old geezer I don't know what "nerfed" means.

[Klingoncelt]

keep in mind kling knew my role since n1 when she intercepted my drixx msg

This is true.

[Klingoncelt]

Kling can you confirm ABR used the so told action on math last night or not?

I can't see what action anyone performs, only that they visited the target.

ABR visited MathBlade.

[Klingoncelt]

I can't see what action anyone performs, only that they visited the target.

ABR visited MathBlade.

Can you confirm that I did as well?


Now that klingon claimed that
Tracker+ watcher means
If both klingon and i target scum doing nightkill, which is strongmanized by abr, i see that there is a strongmanize, and klingon sees who that was and who the scum visited (a dead body)
Thats a breaking combo that catches 2 scum in 1 night, and with that masonizer/neighborizer it would have been possible to coordinate

Ergo
If abr is scum klingon is likely scum because klingon!town would be too op
Thats what i was saying yesterday

-S

I'm not Scum.

ABR isn't Scum.

And yes, you were visiting MathBlade too.

[Klingoncelt]

There was a Mod error, but that's a good thing. Had the instance NOT been a Mod error, then the game state would be altered. So everything's cool.

It was a player based error - as sooper claimed

what mod error are you talking about?

It was something weird that showed up in my results. The Mods corrected it, all is well.

[Klingoncelt]

@klingon: my pm clearly states that you can see sent AND received messages, as well as 2 other things. If FA read through it correctly she knows what 2 actions. Jae as well. Is it or isn't it called nerfed agent?

-S

You're right, I checked my Role PM and I

can

see received messages. I guess that ABR didn't receive any on Night 1 and Math didn't receive any on Night 2.

I'm basically a watcher/tracker with limitations. I can see *most of those* who come to visit, and I can see *most of those* the target visits. Dropping off letters counts as a visit.

I'm an old geezer I don't know what "nerfed" means.

Nerfed means weakened or rebalanced to fit in to a group.

For example if you had 10 players that do 10 damage in an MMO and one that did 12. The latter should be nerfed to do 10 damage or nerfed to be given some other weakness.

Oh, yeah, I'm nerfed alright.

Don't ask. Not till the Scums are all gone.

[Klingoncelt]

oh and, to reply to Titus (?) above: hello everyone. please thank me immensely.

We are indeed immensely grateful for your replace-in, Not Chara, thanks for being here!

[Klingoncelt]

There was a Mod error, but that's a good thing. Had the instance NOT been a Mod error, then the game state would be altered. So everything's cool.

It was a player based error - as sooper claimed

what mod error are you talking about?

It was something weird that showed up in my results. The Mods corrected it, all is well.

what weird thing in your result?

I'm not allowed to discuss it, as it was a Mod error. I can say that I wasn't given any secret info or anything. Everything is back to normal, nothing to see here.

[Klingoncelt]

You're a crybaby. Klingon is scum with sooper. I'm town.

No I'm not.

[Klingoncelt]

So you call me out for suggesting to make a list
And then you make your own list?
Same for FA

What the fuck is wrong with all of you

I'm done with this game to be honest. I will take whoever I'm sure is town to the adventure and I will bring back the very likely towns. The rest can die.

That's not a very Townie attitude.

[Klingoncelt]

I'm still not sure on why klingon outing that she read the messages is town indicative. Especially since she lied originally and said it wasn't anything to do with her role when we were speccing whether that was a town ability to have.

I'm not the type to crumb my role or volunteer information unless I absolutely have to or until there's no reason to keep it secret.

Had I been run up for a lynch I would have outed everything about my role.

[Klingoncelt]

I still think D&D are Scum.

[Klingoncelt]

Deadline's 3 days 15 hours from this post, btw.

[Klingoncelt]

...
I...thought I had posted multiple times about not understanding how Klingon's interception of your message made her town, but I must have just been thinking it and not ended up posting Sorry.
...

I do think there are reasons Klingon would hit you as scum. As an example, you'd have a lot of town roles on you last night to make sure that shot went through, so it's basically an information mine. I also think your point about the way she's pushed on being telling to her alignment isn't quite right... Because she hasn't been pushed on hard this game.

I've seen Klingon as town in C9++ where Nahdia pushed her to a mislynch. Klingon there was more involved in the game and actively trying to do something. I only saw fragments of Bloodborne, but I'm getting pinged off what I did see because I found Klingon there relied on doing things in mission PTs to get townread. She also replaced into my first newbie where she was mislynched within 48 hours - and still she managed to somehow be more involved there than she is here.

Then you've got the fact that she has contradicted herself at least twice in this day phase with regards to her role yet no one jumps on the lynchbait? To me, that points more toward her being mafia than town.

Which makes me paranoid as all hell when you say you know Klingon and this is definitely her as town. Especially when I know that townreading all of {Math, FA, Sooper, D&D, ABR} has to be incorrect at this stage. Then there's the chance I'm overthinking things and it really just is D&D remaining or something.

I'm known for being a shit player early in the game, unless someone's looking for a Low Hanging Fruit mislynch I'm usually ignored.

It's common for players to be less than honest about their roles. Regardless of alignment if any part of one's role is outed it's best to create some confusion with the opposite faction once the role is outed. (Although I really forgot that I can see letters sent

to

my targets as well as any letters that my targets sent.)

As for the remaining Scum, at a 2:1 ratio we should have 4 Scums and one left over - Town? Scum? 3rd Party? I think the leftover was the Traitor Karnos.

McMenno was pretty obvScum.

If two of his jailmates are Scum, then we only need lynch 1 more.

Why don't we focus on lynching one at a time? If the next lynched Scum doesn't end the game, then we try again.

It's pretty clear that we don't have enough info today, but we're getting there.

[Klingoncelt]

*
3:1 ratio, not 2:1

[Klingoncelt]

Just a prod dodge right now, but eww, Not Chara. Not moving my vote, though.

[Klingoncelt]

i'm looking forward to reading all of these private topics. i really didn't know what was going on outside of the main thread.

Me too.

[Klingoncelt]

Klingoncelt

dies due to a gun shot from

Albert B. Rampage

that he accelerated using his ability on himself.

Congrats to

Karnos

,

Mathblade

,

Space Cowboy

, and

Sooperdetective

. I hope all had fun.

ABR... jeez, I can't believe you did that.

GG, Scum. I kinda suspected Sooper, but Math had me totally fooled.

[Klingoncelt]

Me three LOL

Yeah, but you had Scum Chat.

[Klingoncelt]

I think the issue with this setup was jails preventing us seeing flips, which cost so much information for town that apathy easily set in.

This could be true.

Maybe in future games have occasional parole hearings or something that flips one jailed player every 2 Days... or something.

[Klingoncelt]

did you really, Nahdia? how did that happen?

the initial way titus released the image role PM's was to just put them all in photobucket. all of the files were deliberately named. for example mine was just named Nahdia.png. all i had to do was replace Nahdia.png with Mathblade.png and suddenly I was spoiled :p

LOL!

[Klingoncelt]

I enjoyed the game, thanks for hosting it, and please /pre-in me for any sequels!

[Klingoncelt]

Titus you have to run mass effect mafia 2 now

It is true, dat.

[Klingoncelt]

I meta'd her on effort, Cerb.

My effort's tied to real life.

My real life is very unpredictable and distracting.

[Klingoncelt]

Ohhh.

Don't meta klingon. Imo, you can only reliably meta 1) bad players, and 2) players who control games, and klingon is neither. :p

-Cerb

Look, everyone! Someone says I'm not a bad player - woot!

*hugs Cerb*

[Klingoncelt]

sorry Klingon, Frozen and Jaereed thought you were scum, and I thought you would have given more leeway to D&D if you were town.

D&D were having a bad game, I think. Mine wasn't exactly stellar.

[Klingoncelt]

Look, everyone! Someone says I'm not a bad player - woot!

*hugs Cerb*

Your not a bad player

you judt should have made a case against sooper who had the exact same utility you had

I was wondering about that, but I sort of blew it off thinking that Town could have 2 investigates.

It was his suspicion of me that finally made me suspicious of him, he couldn't explain his case on me.

[Klingoncelt]

Am I the only one that was in no PT at all?

[Klingoncelt]

I'm so fucking useless

No you aren't.

(((hugs)))