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It ain't flavor I am CCing. They got cute with the role fake.In post 2801, Creature wrote:In post 1, Varsoon wrote:As a final note, all scum have guaranteed safe-claims and roles that fit the flavor of these fake-claims. Do not try to flavor-game this setup.
Scum all have had their flavor crafted before I crafted any of the town roles--I have built this setup around scum having effective, believable safe-claims.
Flavor-claims are not anywhere near the sort of town-clear that you might expect from other games.
Furthermore, I have given scum measures to punish players who are attempting to flavor-game the setup. Claim flavor at your own risk.
We are here to play mafia rendered under the flavor of Steven Universe--I will have no pity for anyone who takes the flavor as a means to attempt to outguess the moderator.-
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Unless they felt his fake wasn't enough to save him.In post 2806, Creature wrote:aka it's very unlikely SirCakez would make up a claim when he got a safeclaim (that Varsoon probably designed to not be counterclaimed).-
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SirCakez is permanently bulletproof? I don't think so.In post 2759, SirCakez wrote:As well, if I'm allied everyone in the alliance gains bulletproof and the alliance will be able to chat at both Climax and Exposition.-
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Both.In post 2810, Not Chara wrote:
oh. you thought Titus was accusing SirCakez of making up the claim?In post 2806, Creature wrote:aka it's very unlikely SirCakez would make up a claim when he got a safeclaim (that Varsoon probably designed to not be counterclaimed).
i assumed she was saying that part of her role is the same or similar to SirCakez's, making him more likely scum to her. (as, in theory, town would have different roles?)
but i think it depends on the moderator.-
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I asked you question. Would your extra vote work if all of you voted Cakey? If so, why not vote him and be done.In post 2822, farside22 wrote:
You really aren't reading my post.In post 2797, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
So, why the resistance to voting obvscum? Wouldn't the rest of you get the power?In post 2796, farside22 wrote:In post 2794, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
Any scum an fakeclaim that, since they already know whom they are killing.In post 2776, Creature wrote:but he can make pro-town players BP.In post 2788, farside22 wrote:Just knew that the joy ride could target each other and could not be targeted by anyone outside the group.
I was aware of the voting everyone for the same player and getting an extra vote, which I hinted at.
I just stated what part of his claim was truth.
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You see the extra vote, and you'll be scum's Townbeard for it.In post 2831, farside22 wrote:
Interpret please?In post 2829, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:So, you're bribable to not vote scum by getting an extra vote to not vote scum with.
Pretty cut and dry. At least we know why you resisted lynching Cakey. You want power. That's what motivates you.-
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I think I am done here.
SirCakey promises Farside that she can have a extra vote if they agree and he lives.
Farside townreads him and refuses to vote his scumreads and sticks to voting town.
Not exactly a far out conclusion to reach when Farside can usually justify her opinions.
It's sad what power makes people do.-
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And you never questioned why Cakey wouldn't try to start a CoolDog train but focused on everyone else as lurking?In post 2836, farside22 wrote:To be fair I don't care about the extra vote once it was clear cool dog was going to be unavailable
Hmm I wonder why that is.-
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In post 2839, Creature wrote:Oh right, SirCakez is BP.-
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@NC, No one thinks they would change their reads for power, but they convince themselves by townreading the person who gives them the power. It's not far from that to sheepage of scum, especially when the ability requires it.
Skybird didn't have to sheep Cakey I believe.
Since Farside cannot see reality smacking her in the face, she needs to be shown what she's doing here.
When her sole justificationis I am delusional, which is the same line scum is pushing and completely ignores Mastina and RR, yes she does need to see what she's doing.
This is abnormal for Farside.-
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too early to determine my alliance yet.In post 2844, Not Chara wrote:ally with me on day 3 then.
or, OWK should ally with me. better yet, all three of us should ally on day 4. i'll make tea.-
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I refuse to write Farside off as unreasonable, I respect them too much.In post 2849, Not Chara wrote:
i was speaking to both of you. this argument is not helpful. pick it up later, perhaps, but you aren't going to get anywhere now.In post 2845, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:@NC, No one thinks they would change their reads for power, but they convince themselves by townreading the person who gives them the power. It's not far from that to sheepage of scum, especially when the ability requires it.
Skybird didn't have to sheep Cakey I believe.
Since Farside cannot see reality smacking her in the face, she needs to be shown what she's doing here.
When her sole justificationis I am delusional, which is the same line scum is pushing and completely ignores Mastina and RR, yes she does need to see what she's doing.
This is abnormal for Farside.
please trust me on this. i've gone through this situation too many times overmyselfin a single game.
or perhaps that makes me uniquelyunqualifiedto talk about it. haha.
then again, you know each other personally, so perhaps i can't understand.-
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Great, scum don't want to kill any of you because you've been that terrible.In post 2855, Almost50 wrote:In post 2771, Firebringer wrote:
Our alliance is semi BPIn post 2768, SirCakez wrote:Literally no one else has claimed BP?
A few others hinted
Actually it's bc of BOTH of us. SC made us all BP, and I made us all immune to actions from outside the alliance (but unfortunately we also can't target anyone outside the alliance).In post 2772, SirCakez wrote:That's because of me you dingus
So, you've been double protected by this alliance, FB. This very alliance you've been treating like garbage!-
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And I am not rolefishing replying here.In post 2860, Not Chara wrote:
i'm compelled to say i also overlap with Cakez somewhat.In post 2856, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:@almost50, thoughts on me CCing Cakey?
we're all being very vague, so this means almost nothing. :>-
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He cannot because a) that's vague and b) he's scum and c) by you even making that offer, you would interpret anything he did as town. Either he changes in protown reads or he fails and you post this.In post 2865, farside22 wrote:Also I told cakez to do something he hasn't done and I hinted it would help him.
Scum not taking that offer I'm about 99% sure he's town.-
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Welcome, an SU game isn't complete without fuzzy.In post 2867, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Hey I am replacing Seraphim. I will try to catch up as soon as I can.-
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And why should I deal with you? I don't mindlessly sheep and nor do you. Mindlessly Sheeping is Antitown as fuck. We get there by justifying our opinions and talking. It took this much to highlight Cakey's bribery to the hood. You mindlessly Sheeping, this never comes out.In post 2873, farside22 wrote:
And this is town.In post 2866, SirCakez wrote:I didn't see your post in the PT until just now farside, to be fair
Let's play let's make a deal Titus.
I'm feeling a bit pissy with you.
I feel you need to take your arrogance down a notch.
So here is my deal and it will be fair.
If I'm right you can't not only stop arguing day 2, you need to sheep my read day 2.
If your right I eat my words, call my reads bad and sheep you day 2.
Here is the thing, you don't comply I vote you and refuse to move till your dead.
You are basically Cakey's pawn and you want to justify voting town.-
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No. You won't or you'll wind up being a policy lynch. This is sad Farside. Knock off the my way or the highway. If you think Cakey is town, rather than trying to case anyone else. You are resigned to letting your townread die and voting another townread if right. That's asinine. Why the fuck would you think this is protown?In post 2881, farside22 wrote:
Well ill just vote you day 2 then.In post 2878, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
And why should I deal with you? I don't mindlessly sheep and nor do you. Mindlessly Sheeping is Antitown as fuck. We get there by justifying our opinions and talking. It took this much to highlight Cakey's bribery to the hood. You mindlessly Sheeping, this never comes out.In post 2873, farside22 wrote:
And this is town.In post 2866, SirCakez wrote:I didn't see your post in the PT until just now farside, to be fair
Let's play let's make a deal Titus.
I'm feeling a bit pissy with you.
I feel you need to take your arrogance down a notch.
So here is my deal and it will be fair.
If I'm right you can't not only stop arguing day 2, you need to sheep my read day 2.
If your right I eat my words, call my reads bad and sheep you day 2.
Here is the thing, you don't comply I vote you and refuse to move till your dead.
You are basically Cakey's pawn and you want to justify voting town.-
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There's no flip to and you've provided no reason to. What else would I think?In post 2886, farside22 wrote:
She (titus) isn't reevaluating her reads.In post 2875, Not Chara wrote:
please stop.In post 2873, farside22 wrote:
And this is town.In post 2866, SirCakez wrote:I didn't see your post in the PT until just now farside, to be fair
Let's play let's make a deal Titus.
I'm feeling a bit pissy with you.
I feel you need to take your arrogance down a notch.
So here is my deal and it will be fair.
If I'm right you can't not only stop arguing day 2, you need to sheep my read day 2.
If your right I eat my words, call my reads bad and sheep you day 2.
Here is the thing, you don't comply I vote you and refuse to move till your dead.pleasestop this.
everyone is arrogant. being wrong on one read is not going to stop that. i thought so too, earlier. i don't feel like quoting the post but not a few days ago i used the phrase 'online whiplash' to refer to three players being wrong about a read on me. now i realize they would shrug it off, do some reevaluating, and continue on.-
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That's why I said they added more to the claim. I have a similar function as Cakey. You are unbearably circle jerking.In post 2889, Almost50 wrote:
Titus, your conf!bias has come unbearable. Varsoon said he crafted the scum FAKE CLAIMS even before he wrote our town role PMs. You simply would NOT be able to counterclaim anything if SC was using a fake claim, FGS!In post 2803, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:It ain't flavor I am CCing. They got cute with the role fake.-
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I still have a townread on Farside.
Cakey is scum by play.
I cced him.
He mysteriously has two alliance abilities.
Do the math.
He's scum.-
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I am going to look at that if wrong, but you need to be open to the possibility you are wrong. It's easier to fool some than all. You should be re-evaluating your reads here. Like, you have systemically ignored engaging reasons for anything you do and just insult and deflect. I would be scumreading you but others in the past told me only town go toe to toe with me and get this frustrated.In post 2901, farside22 wrote:
I've said I see things town from him.In post 2888, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
There's no flip to and you've provided no reason to. What else would I think?In post 2886, farside22 wrote:
She (titus) isn't reevaluating her reads.In post 2875, Not Chara wrote:
please stop.In post 2873, farside22 wrote:
And this is town.In post 2866, SirCakez wrote:I didn't see your post in the PT until just now farside, to be fair
Let's play let's make a deal Titus.
I'm feeling a bit pissy with you.
I feel you need to take your arrogance down a notch.
So here is my deal and it will be fair.
If I'm right you can't not only stop arguing day 2, you need to sheep my read day 2.
If your right I eat my words, call my reads bad and sheep you day 2.
Here is the thing, you don't comply I vote you and refuse to move till your dead.pleasestop this.
everyone is arrogant. being wrong on one read is not going to stop that. i thought so too, earlier. i don't feel like quoting the post but not a few days ago i used the phrase 'online whiplash' to refer to three players being wrong about a read on me. now i realize they would shrug it off, do some reevaluating, and continue on.
In the PT.
All I saw here was a meta, the same thing over and over from you and mindless sheeping.
Your getting what you want out of this. I just hope you look back at this wagon and realize how awful some of these players sheeping and comments are.
Also on a side note since I did disband the alliance, I'd still like players to target me.-
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Ugh. I will need to chill on that. I am really convinced Farside is town and Cakey is like confscum. Can we get Cakey and talk about Farside tomorrow?In post 2905, Firebringer wrote:Ohh I don't have a scumread on farside.
She just made 4 players who were BP into not BP.
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Are you townreading Cakey? No. We don't reward tantrums with lynching not Cakey.In post 2914, Firebringer wrote:
Sorry no.In post 2909, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
Ugh. I will need to chill on that. I am really convinced Farside is town and Cakey is like confscum. Can we get Cakey and talk about Farside tomorrow?In post 2905, Firebringer wrote:Ohh I don't have a scumread on farside.
She just made 4 players who were BP into not BP.
That deserves a policy.-
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You fucker. You really are helping scum like holy shit. Stop with the desperation. Cakey's BP IS FAKE. HOLY SHIT.In post 2924, Almost50 wrote:
You guys want monkey business? You got it!In post 2837, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:I think I am done here.
SirCakey promises Farside that she can have a extra vote if they agree and he lives.
Farside townreads him and refuses to vote his scumreads and sticks to voting town.
Not exactly a far out conclusion to reach when Farside can usually justify her opinions.
It's sad what power makes people do.
As of NOW, Obi-Wan Kenobi & Farside22 are both demoted to SCUM LEAN.
Obi is so persistent to lynch the BP source, and farside has just decided to disband the event altogether. This tells me they're scum TOGETHER and have been faking it to find out who the source of all that shit was. They now know what my event did, and -additionally- have sabotaged it to no remedy. They also know SC's full role, and that's all scum needed to know.
I partially blame Mastina for early town reading farside (which I must admit has affected my read on her), but I mainly blame myself for my betrayal to myself. I had promised myself I will work individually in this game, and taking anyone's reads into account was a fatal mistake.
Also, Mastina: RR is TOWN, OBI has been playing them, not the other way around. I have seen this Titus ONCE before (in THIS game Blitz 26), but -fortunately- Ranger was there for the rescue.
I may need to reevaluate some of my reads later on, but scum are definitely to be found in TheFuzzylogic99, Not Chara, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Farside22, Creature & Shiro (that's the entire scum team OR 5 of them are scum and one is really bad town).
Done with this. These are the 6 lynches I'm willing to take all game long. Nobody else.-
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I'd be salty too.In post 2925, Firebringer wrote:
I revealed like 40% of the contents of my role mostly under pretense that I was likely not going to be targeted because of BP protection.In post 2921, farside22 wrote:2) no I didn't do it for you fire. You bitched and moan too much. I did it because it was for myself. I don't really care. I just recalled you wanted a new ally and we're done with the pt. Titus seems to think we won't die tonight anyways, what you worried about?
So yes, I am ticked off that you took that away, and i don't care who Titus thinks is going to die, unless she is scum she has no idea who is going to die.-
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Stop this nonsense Farside. Stop murdering town.In post 2935, farside22 wrote:Maybe I should just day vig Shiro.
That'd make me feel better.
What do you think a50?
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Then push the right one before Farside walks herself into a rope.In post 2938, Not Chara wrote:SirCakez: and they would knot it was fake... how? they would know you hadn't read farside's post through... ah, mind control, perhaps.
or the lie detector. were you afraid of that?
unlikely, but i'm just guessing at this point.
Titus: the bulletproof is not fake. you're pushing the wrong angle.
Firebringer: your personal feelings about farside (who you are not scumreading, but your own admission) should not be making you vote her.
farside: you are just as stubborn as Titus is.
Almost50: ...well. our hydra will be an interesting one, i can tell you that much.
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Agreed. Farside cannot live until lylo. She just should be vigged and we lynch the confscum that cannot be vigged. I will fucking do it if I have to in order to get Cakey lynched.In post 2940, Firebringer wrote:
Its really not that personal.In post 2938, Not Chara wrote:Firebringer: your personal feelings about farside (who you are not scumreading, but your own admission) should not be making you vote her.
She did an extreme anti town thing.
She needs to go.
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What you did WAS insanely anti-town. There were two scum in that hood. Those scum can now target anyone. Almost50 is now vulnerable to dumb vig.In post 2949, farside22 wrote:
Why are you agreeing? You said sc was lying.In post 2944, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
Agreed. Farside cannot live until lylo. She just should be vigged and we lynch the confscum that cannot be vigged. I will fucking do it if I have to in order to get Cakey lynched.In post 2940, Firebringer wrote:
Its really not that personal.In post 2938, Not Chara wrote:Firebringer: your personal feelings about farside (who you are not scumreading, but your own admission) should not be making you vote her.
She did an extreme anti town thing.
She needs to go.
Its pretty simple.
SC is lying. That doesn't make your act protown.-
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Yeah Farside is just engaging in denial and reflexive justifications. The same thing you are doing.In post 2963, Almost50 wrote:
Outright lie. If you truly believed that, you would not have revoked the BP AND the isolation from the rest of players' actions from yourself. You were practically immune to all action but those coming from within the event.In post 2862, farside22 wrote:Yeah I'm pretty sure i have a greater shot to die then many others.
You also disbanded shortly after you tricked me into confirming it was a 1-time event and that I had no more powers but my own vote. You had to make sure I could not do a repeat of the same event, only this time a different team. And if I could and I opted to include Cakez that would've been disastrous for you and your scum buddies. For what it's worth, you could be the one with extra powers you needed to use on someone outside the Joy Ride tonight, but found you couldn't while it lasted.
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Where are your reads?In post 2972, Not Chara wrote:
Seraphim was fine. not active, but fine.In post 2967, Almost50 wrote:Btw, apologies due toTheFuzzylogic99IF their slot is town. The bad town -in this case- would be seraphim, not you.-
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Great, the BP might not be true...someone is counter claiming Cakey, come on...In post 2975, farside22 wrote:
I'm being selfish.In post 2964, Firebringer wrote:So like are you going to explain your actions or is it all "whiners"
Honestly. I really liked the group and then things seemed like they were getting misconstrued by you, the sc was getting pushed for a lynch and I thought this group has issues.
I figure sc will be lynched and Cooldog was such a nothing read I didn't want anything to do with the group.
I didn't know if the BP was true. I said exactly what we knew.
I'm not saying much more for role related reasons.-
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If the BP wasn't true, Cakey either gets lynched (ideal) or no scum in the group can do the Nightkill. So Cakey nor CooLDoG could kill Mastina or any of you. You enabled that.
If the BP isn't true, there's a counterclaim.
If the BP was true, then you should push your own scumread.
Instead, you make the game easier for scum.-
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Take out Rational for now. Pretty please.In post 2977, Not Chara wrote:
at the moment? they feel like popcorn that hasn't been finished being made. everyIn post 2973, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
Where are your reads?In post 2972, Not Chara wrote:
Seraphim was fine. not active, but fine.In post 2967, Almost50 wrote:Btw, apologies due toTheFuzzylogic99IF their slot is town. The bad town -in this case- would be seraphim, not you.popand i think they're settled. but whoops. there goes another one.
scum: SirCakez, Rational... Klingoncelt?
town: Almost50, Seraphim/fuzzy, OWK, farside, Firebringer, Snarky
i go back and forth: grapes (probably town), Creature (possibly town), McMenno (a shrug, personified), kraska (i think i based my townread on them on something silly in the hood with grapes)
i'm aware i haven't mentioned plenty of players. randomidget and TWIE, off the top of my head, i don't have reads on. mastin and Yume are being treated as confirmed town by me.
speaking of.
kraska: i'm no longer interested in allying with you.
i'm interested in allying with anyone on my townlist. but grapes will only let you ally me if you're scumreading me. just so you know. ;>
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Fair enough.In post 2982, Not Chara wrote:
kraska isn't really town for me. if they were, i wouldn't have said i no longer wanted to ally with them.In post 2979, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote: Take out Rational for now. Pretty please.
I agree with the town list with minor reservations on Kraska.
the only player i want lynched at this time is Cakez. i'llconsiderRational again once i've seen them post about recent developments. that is all.-
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It has never existed in the history of Varsoon games to have double powers in an alliance and have it be town. His response was to resign. Then Farside and Almost derping defend him.In post 2986, Skybird wrote:My God you guys are making my head hurt. I'm torn on his claim. It sounds town, but Varsoon said scum have believable claims.
Why do you think two alliance powers is a scum claim?In post 2800, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:He also has two alliance powers, which should, on its own, be a scumclaim.
And sorry, I have to sign off after this. It's been a long day and my head is pounding. I want to think this all over and read again in the morning.
The BP neighbor is to explain why Cakey should be kept alive.
The BP on himself is added to explain why scum don't shoot him.
It's really farcical.
Without the BP claim, Cakez ability sounds townish but would not be enough to save him.-
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D - Farside is being an arrogant and wanted to prove just how incorruptible she was that she put zero thought into her action.
Don't get me wrong, my townread has softened and she cannot live until lylo, but that doesn't mean she has to be lynched over confirmed scum.
Farside isn't presenting any logical opinion on SirCakez because she doesn't want Cakey to be scum because she's too fucking proud.-
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In post 3005, Titus wrote:
Agreed. I agree with you in all but the alignment conclusion Almost.In post 3004, Almost50 wrote:Yes you did, and we both said NO, and you said you were going to be selfish and still did it. You were going to it anyway, but hoped for us to go along with you so you won't be blamed for it (or maybe even blame it on us later on), but when we BOTH said we wanted to carry on with it YOU STILL DISMANTLED IT!
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Almost is projecting his own ability onto Cakez.In post 3010, Not Chara wrote:
i am almostIn post 3009, Reasonably Rational wrote:Before I sleep, I want some things answered when I wake up.
1) In the SC/A50 pt (not the Joyride), was there any indication of what SC has claimed?
2) In the joyride, was there any indication of what SC has claimed?
3) Why did you destroy the joyride Farside?
I'm having trouble understanding why FS would do what she did ( as town, it's dumb, and as scum it only makes sense if some critical role was in that joyride and needed to target outside of it...and even then it's still dumb), as well as reconciling SC'S claim that A50 knew about this all day with his claim of ignorance, while the rest of their joyride claims they were aware of the protection SC claims to be the source of.
And with that, good night.
-Cerb50certain that all three of these were answered in the thread already.
when you wake up, please give your reads as they apply to recent events.
SirCakez was mistaken when saying Almost knew about this all day. he thought Almost had picked up on his hinting.
they knew about the protection. not that it was Cakez. Almost knew the vote ability was from Cakez. no one else did.
Cakez BP works on an alliance.
Their hood is from an event.
Event =\= alliance.-
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You just took me back to law school and made me pray for auto death.In post 3018, Firebringer wrote:
I get the flavor referenceIn post 3016, Almost50 wrote:
I'm not sure if you have your own event to trigger, but those who do know there are conditions and also know there are ways for it to fail even if you try under when said conditions are met. I wanted mine to go through, and I trusted no one would be interested in blowing it to pieces when it was a D1 event. It was a "JOY RIDE" FGS. Now that farside has wrecked the car and even set it on fire, my dad's gonna kill me. I'll be grounded for the rest of the year.In post 2958, Not Chara wrote:the longer the game goes on, the more time you have to gather information on who is town.
unless you have reason to believe mafia will nightkill or roleblock you, there was no reason to do it so soon.
if you had waited, your neighbourhood could have contained mastin and Yume, as an example.-
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Right, you missed it. It's you creating a world where Cakey is town when he us not.In post 3020, Almost50 wrote:
The BP IS FARTING TRUE. It's just that I missed it. It did say we were not to be killed by conventional methods, and that isn't part of my own event's effect. That's not part of my own role either. It had to be someone else's role/effect, and I don't see counterclaims coming from either FB or farside. You can wait for the rest of your life for CD to show up and confirm it wasn't his either. Like, you're not reading at all!In post 2976, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:Great, the BP might not be true...someone is counter claiming Cakey, come on...-
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1) SC BP is total fiction because I am the town BP interactor.In post 3027, Reasonably Rational wrote:
OWK, clear this up for me: are you saying if SCs role is what hes claiming, you believe he's town, but you just don't believe the claim...or do you not believe the claim, AND don't think it matters?In post 3026, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
Right, you missed it. It's you creating a world where Cakey is town when he us not.In post 3020, Almost50 wrote:
The BP IS FARTING TRUE. It's just that I missed it. It did say we were not to be killed by conventional methods, and that isn't part of my own event's effect. That's not part of my own role either. It had to be someone else's role/effect, and I don't see counterclaims coming from either FB or farside. You can wait for the rest of your life for CD to show up and confirm it wasn't his either. Like, you're not reading at all!In post 2976, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:Great, the BP might not be true...someone is counter claiming Cakey, come on...
The language of you connecting A50's corroboration of SC'S claim with him being town makes this unclear to me.
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2) if it's real, he's scum because I am town.-
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Or we just lynch the lying son of a bitch and not play Russian roulette with your life.In post 3032, Almost50 wrote:
OK, let's put into test. He's still allied with ME, you know. Have the town vig shoot one of us. Easy!In post 2995, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:It has never existed in the history of Varsoon games to have double powers in an alliance and have it be town. His response was to resign. Then Farside and Almost derping defend him.
The BP neighbor is to explain why Cakey should be kept alive.
The BP on himself is added to explain why scum don't shoot him.
It's really farcical.
Without the BP claim, Cakez ability sounds townish but would not be enough to save him.-
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That's what you need to do. Cakez is obviously scum here. Yet you want to lynch Farside for being an ass.In post 3033, Firebringer wrote:Titus I highly doubt cakes is lying about making the alliance BP
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No. It didn't matter. He is probably lying but hoodwinked the hood. Even if he's not there's not likely more than one town BP.In post 3037, Reasonably Rational wrote:NC, I had read everything before I ever posted anything. That doesn't mean everything made sense snd thst there weren't things that need(ed) clarification.
How do you know who the town arguing with one another are? Whose discussions am I supposed to not take into account here?
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Pedit: OWK, you're confbiasing. Moving the goal posts, etc. Earlier you said that he was lying about the bp, and counterclaimed him, and now that there's further evidence showing that you were wrong in your interpretation of the situation, you're saying it doesn't matter.-
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Then help me turn them towards the right ones. If I am right for the wrong reasons, let me know WHY and help me. Help me lynch confirmed scum. I am not batting 100% here. I could use it.In post 3040, Not Chara wrote:
you asked a lot of questions that had already been answered, that's all. questions like 'is the joyride separate from the SirCakez/Almost50 alliance'. i understand forgetting, but it is there.In post 3037, Reasonably Rational wrote:NC, I had read everything before I ever posted anything. That doesn't mean everything made sense snd thst there weren't things that need(ed) clarification.
How do you know who the town arguing with one another are? Whose discussions am I supposed to not take into account here?
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Pedit: OWK, you're confbiasing. Moving the goal posts, etc. Earlier you said that he was lying about the bp, and counterclaimed him, and now that there's further evidence showing that you were wrong in your interpretation of the situation, you're saying it doesn't matter.
it's only town arguing here. the scum is SirCakez, the only reasonable one of the bunch.
Titus is wrong about SirCakez lying about his claim. she's correct on the read, but focusing on the wrong aspects.-
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It probably WAS part of your isolation event.In post 3042, Almost50 wrote:
1) No. Absolutely not.In post 3009, Reasonably Rational wrote:1) In the SC/A50 pt (not the Joyride), was there any indication of what SC has claimed?
2) In the joyride, was there any indication of what SC has claimed?
2) Not by SC's claim, but it was carved on the wall in the opening post and I misread/misunderstood the meaning, leading me to believe it was part of the isolation my event resulted in (i.e. thought their might be some way for someone to actually affect us from outside, but that would be one person. One particular role Varsoon would have designed to negate my event's effect. I should've known better bc I can't trigger it anymore, so -in retrospect- it didn't make sense to have a role especially designed to overcome a ONE NIGHT act/event)-
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Fire corrected that. Is if Cakey is honest scum, he did make your group BP.In post 3050, Almost50 wrote:
I don't know about that. In my role PM, my event is explicitly describes as an alliance. My event resulted in forming an alliance with the players I picked, and this "alliance" members could not affect nor could they be affected by actions from anyone outside it. So, yes.. my event was referred to as an alliance in my role PM. TWICE.In post 3013, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:Event =\= alliance.-
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Right, and the chunk of us were TOLD that others would be BP upon death. There was no notice of a second BP here. Nor should there be.In post 3057, Reasonably Rational wrote:
You were JUST in a game with *4* town BP's, with a total of 5 vests between them. I was in that game too.In post 3041, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:Given that Almost50 has a stick up his ass, Farside imploded, Fire wants to lynch her for that implosion
And your issue is that I take a counterclaim to its logical conclusion? Holy shit RR.
That game didn't have a mechanic built in that would allow scum to *always* bypass BP. This game does. The counterclaim thing isn't as straightforward as it might be under other circumstances.
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pedit: A50 please answer the other question. The one that will finally sort all this crap out.
Cakey is scum by play which Mastina, NC, myself and others highlighted. You were the first to say he resigned. He resigned in response to my CC. It is that black and white.