Large Normal 199: L'Hôtel Pleuvoir (Fin)

Titus · Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:23 pm

In post 3410, Alisae wrote:
In post 3409, Gamma Emerald wrote:Did I miss a hammer?
No and Tywin is not getting hammered today.
Sorry.

He is if I have anything to say about it.

I will settle for Nero or Elbrin if I must.

Titus · Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:30 pm

In post 3470, Alisae wrote:Hey Titus. If Kyouko is scum, what will that say about Pine?
Or would it be better to ask if Pine is scum, what would that say about Kyouko.

Kyoko being scum leaves no associations left for my other reads beyond two of them being too dumb to live unless I guess right.

Titus · Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:31 pm

Pine usn't scum.

Titus · Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:40 pm

Well, then you shoot town and I will lynch you.

Titus · Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:44 am

@Elbrin, the votes dictate my scumread on you. Your defensiveness doesn't help.

Titus · Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:44 am

I am nearly conftown, I can investigate my theories how I want.

Titus · Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:46 am

In post 3498, Alisae wrote:Elbrin best way to show that Titus is wrong is to vote Kyouko.
If the people she wants lynched are You, Tywin, and Nero
Then I wonder how she would react if we managed to flip scum for once in our fucking lives.
And if Kyouko flips town, then Tywin get's shot and Titus has the data she wants.
Tywin that means change your vote as well.

No. The best way to show I am wrong is to lynch within my scumreads and shoot within them.

Why do you have such a hard on for lynching town?

Titus · Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:04 pm

In post 3505, Alisae wrote:It basically confirms that this game is in a state of apathy.
And come lynch Kyouko with me?

If you're going that scum have apathy theory, that would necessitate both Tywin and SSM town or scum.

Titus · Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:05 pm

In post 3510, Gamma Emerald wrote:Why are people suggesting lynching Elbirn

Cuz of prior votes.

Titus · Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:12 pm

Nope but that's a start, Alisae.

Elbrin, when I am confirmed town, I let others solve more. Bite me.

Titus · Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:18 pm

I am doing shit.

You ever here of the Socratic method. I am doing that.

If you want to sub out because you cannot manipulate me regardless of your alignment, that's skeevy man.

Titus · Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:20 pm

In post 3555, Alisae wrote:
In post 3552, Elbirn wrote:
In post 3550, Titus wrote:Nope but that's a start, Alisae.

Elbrin, when I am confirmed town, I let others solve more. Bite me.
Unacceptable. Do shit or I'm replacing out.
Hey.
Stop being a little bitch and solve shit yourself.
Atleast show some effort instead of trying to sheep Titus.
Because you're being a hypocrite.
Or come lynch scum with me.
We flippin Kyouko boyz.

Also Garry for a moment I forgot you are on V/LA

Stop getting distracted.

Titus · Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:34 pm

Why is me being passive no fun?

I have given the group my lynch pool and I am voting the largest wagon in it.

Being confirmed town means more than ever I do not shut others up.

Do you have a problem voting within my pool Elbrin?

Titus · Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:43 pm

Your name isn't Elbrin for that question.

Titus · Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:13 am

How are you supposing that me being open to a frank dialogue is a lack of effort?

Even from your perspective, you know at least 1 other of scum scumreads is wrong. There are not likely 5 scum. Talk to me about that. Talk about which two are right.

Titus · Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:14 am

Btw, SSM is town and you vigging Nero if this fails and you push it through over my objection Alisae.

Titus · Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:47 am

In post 3629, Alisae wrote:Titus Children are hard to control sometimes. But they can be right too.
And notice how hard it was to get a wagon on Kyouko?
It was a lot easier to get a wagon going on Tywin, don't chu think?
I wonder why that is.

Almost all my scumreads are voting SSM overnight. So, no. That wagon was easy.

Tywin dismantled but no one really disputes his scummy play but for his buddies/whiteknighters.

Titus · Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:48 am

In post 3631, Alisae wrote:
In post 3630, Alisae wrote:Seeing Gamma's reaction makes me thing it's not. That frustration is way more faked then anything Tywin pulled out this game.
This in refering to Kyouko being Town.

Gamma's frustration looks 100% legit opposed to Tywin's lies, fake slips about derp clears and only noticing the scumkill.

Titus · Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:26 am

In post 3636, Painbringer wrote:There's zero reason to flip SSM. They've been lock step with me and been pushing smart arguments.

If your argument for Tywin town is that he's not reading, well, where is the effort to read and fix it?

We are not flipping SSM. I have 4 scumreads, do you really TR them all?

Titus · Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:07 am

In post 3640, Alisae wrote:Titus, want me to work with you? Flip Kyouko. A town flip shuts down my Gamma, Kyouko, Pine/You scumteam
(You being potential odd-night scum doc).
Out of your 4 Scumreads I TR Elbrin and Tywin.

Your scumreads were voting Kyouko over night?
In post 3123, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 3.1Tywin Lannister 5 (Pine, ssbm_Kyouko, Titus, Gamma Emerald, Elbirn)
Nero Cain 1 (Alisae)

Not Voting 5 (the rest o yall)
Where's the counterwagon?

There can be no counterwagon to resigned scum.

My scumreads today are voting SSM.

The only name that might scum in your list is Gamma, but Tywin is scummier than him.

Titus · Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:29 pm

In post 3753, Alisae wrote:BTW wants some?
/me offers Kyouko popcorn.

I'm rolling with either scumteam at this point
A: Kyouko, Gamma, Pine
B. Aj, Tywin, Nero

Umm 4 scum in this is effing large. You are positing 5.

Catching up.

Titus · Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:31 pm

In post 3742, Nero Cain wrote:I wasn't town reading Gamma either so

vote:Gamma

pls don't listen to an OMGUSing Titus.

Show me where you tried to sort me rather than peddle Titus tried to get her own buddy shot derp logic.

Titus · Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:32 pm

In post 3756, Alisae wrote:
In post 3755, Titus wrote:
In post 3753, Alisae wrote:BTW wants some?
/me offers Kyouko popcorn.

I'm rolling with either scumteam at this point
A: Kyouko, Gamma, Pine
B. Aj, Tywin, Nero

Umm 4 scum in this is effing large. You are positing 5.

Catching up.
Huh...Titus that's interesting...
In that case game should end tonight if not tonight tomorrow if you got this shit solved.

Umm just how can we mow down 4 scumreads tonight?

Titus · Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:45 pm

In post 3759, Alisae wrote:
In post 3758, Titus wrote:
In post 3756, Alisae wrote:
In post 3755, Titus wrote:
In post 3753, Alisae wrote:BTW wants some?
/me offers Kyouko popcorn.

I'm rolling with either scumteam at this point
A: Kyouko, Gamma, Pine
B. Aj, Tywin, Nero

Umm 4 scum in this is effing large. You are positing 5.

Catching up.
Huh...Titus that's interesting...
In that case game should end tonight if not tonight tomorrow if you got this shit solved.
Umm just how can we mow down 4 scumreads tonight?
Case A. Scum flip Gamma me shoot Kyouko.
Case B. Town flip Gamma me shoot Nero, lynch Tywin.

I don't feel comfortable with lynch chaining.

Titus · Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:15 pm

VOTE: Nero

Titus · Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:20 am

Mod vc please.

I am out until tomorrow. So mini vla. Try to keep the thread managable.

Titus · Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:37 pm

In post 3851, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 3.7Gamma Emerald 4 (Aj The Epic, Alisae, Tywin Lannister, Nero Cain)
Tywin Lannister 2 (Gamma Emerald, Pine)
Nero Cain 2 (Titus, Nero Cain)
ssbm_Kyouko 1 (xSoniaNevermindx)
Aj The Epic 1 (ssbm_Kyouko)

Not Voting 2 (gerryoat, Elbirn)

Sonia is V/LA.

This VC is wrong somewhere I think. Requesting a new one.

Let's lynch Nero.

Titus · Sun Jan 08, 2017 9:17 pm

VOTE: Tywin

Do not selfhammer. Make scum do it.

Titus · Sun Jan 08, 2017 9:25 pm

In post 3953, Alisae wrote:Also you never gave me your thoughts on my CK theory.

What post?

Titus · Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:07 pm

I would like Nero to make a choice.

Titus · Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:31 am

There's a reason why I am asking Nero to pick a side.

Btw, Nero is still my preferred lynch today. I was hard townreading AJ before so I kinda don't want to do that today.

Titus · Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:49 am

Tywin, would you vote Nero? Elbrin?

Titus · Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:49 am

Mason should claim if wagoned or lylo.

Titus · Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:24 pm

Yeah, how about no. Sonia is locktown.

I am near conftown.

AJ/Sonia/Pine let's block this.

Titus · Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:57 pm

In post 4028, Pine wrote:Seriously, analysis of the Traitor's ISO is clearly what will make or break this game. The guy knew the scum, but the scum didn't know him, and he was trying to make contact. It's the key to this whole thing. Notice how bloody HARD it has been to push on Tywin? No cooperation. See why Sonia, Gamma, and Nero* keep popping up? I'm pretty sure my scumpool is down to {Tywin, Elbirn, AJ}. They're pretty much the only people left not ruled out, and there's two scum in there.

My guess is Tywin and Elbirn, but it could be Tywin and AJ.

*My SR on Nero at the end of D3 completely forgot about the Cloudkicker analysis. It's subtle, but it's there. CK was trying to get him lynched on the same wavelength as his pushes on Gamma and Sonia - exploratory, testing to see if he could get a wagon started.

I do not see CK attempting to lynch Nero.

I think Elbrin Nero is who I want roped

Titus · Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:23 am

@Elbrin, stop being so scummy. I gave you my initial impression. Now if the vig would have been more helpful *grumbles*.

I am doing the full thing now

Titus · Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:28 am

Spoiler: VCs

In post 51, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 1.1Alisae 3 (Aj The Epic, Nosferatu, Lapsa)

Lapsa 2 (Pine, Gamma Emerald)

Cabd 1 (Lapsa)
Tywin Lannister 1 (Alisae)
Titus 1 (xSoniaNevermindx)

Not Voting 9 (everyone else)

In post 100, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 1.2Lapsa 5 (Pine, Gamma Emerald, Titus, Alisae, Elbirn)
Alisae 4 (Aj The Epic, Nosferatu, Lapsa, Tywin Lannister)
Elbirn 2 (Lil Uzi Vert, xSoniaNevermindx)
Gamma Emerald 1 (Cabd)

Not Voting 5 (Nero Cain, Transcend, mozamis, ssbm_Kyouko, CloudKicker)

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

In post 176, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 1.3Elbirn 6 (Lil Uzi Vert, xSoniaNevermindx, Aj The Epic, ssbm_Kyouko, Transcend, CloudKicker)
Lapsa 5 (Pine, Gamma Emerald, Titus, Alisae, Elbirn)
Alisae 3 (Nosferatu, Lapsa, Tywin Lannister)
Gamma Emerald 1 (Cabd)

Not Voting 2 (Nero Cain, mozamis)

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

In post 356, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 1.4Elbirn 4 (Lil Uzi Vert, Aj The Epic, ssbm_Kyouko, Transcend)
CloudKicker 3 (xSoniaNevermindx, Tywin Lannister, Gamma Emerald)
Lapsa 2 (Pine, Titus)
Gamma Emerald 2 (Cabd, Alisae)
Alisae 1 (Nosferatu)
Lil Uzi Vert 1 (Elbirn)
Titus 1 (Nero Cain)

Not Voting 3 (mozamis, CloudKicker, Lapsa)

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

In post 470, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 1.5Elbirn 4 (Lil Uzi Vert, Aj The Epic, ssbm_Kyouko, Transcend)
CloudKicker 2 (xSoniaNevermindx, Gamma Emerald)
Gamma Emerald 2 (Cabd, CloudKicker)
Alisae 2 (Nosferatu, mozamis)
Lil Uzi Vert 2 (Elbirn, Lapsa)
Titus 2 (Nero Cain, Tywin Lannister)
Tywin Lannister 2 (Alisae, Titus)
Lapsa 1 (Pine)

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

The mafia in this game do have daytalk without an encryptor. I will add this to the rules; apologies.

In post 732, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 1.6Aj The Epic 3 (Transcend, ssbm_Kyouko, Titus)
Alisae 2 (Nosferatu, xSoniaNevermindx)
Lil Uzi Vert 2 (Elbirn, Lapsa)
Titus 2 (Nero Cain, Tywin Lannister)
Elbirn 1 (Lil Uzi Vert)
CloudKicker 1 (Gamma Emerald)
Gamma Emerald 1 (Cabd)
Lapsa 1 (Pine)
Tywin Lannister 1 (Aj The Epic)

Not Voting 3 (mozamis, Alisae, CloudKicker)

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

In post 847, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 1.7Gamma Emerald 3 (Cabd, Elbirn, Alisae)
Alisae 3 (Nosferatu, xSoniaNevermindx, ssbm_Kyouko)
Titus 3 (Nero Cain, Tywin Lannister, Lapsa)
Aj The Epic 2 (Transcend, Titus)
Tywin Lannister 2 (Aj The Epic, mozamis)
Elbirn 1 (Lil Uzi Vert)
CloudKicker 1 (Gamma Emerald)
Lapsa 1 (Pine)
Pine 1 (CloudKicker)

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

In post 890, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 1.8Gamma Emerald 4 (Cabd, Elbirn, Alisae, Titus)
Titus 3 (Nero Cain, Tywin Lannister, Lapsa)
Tywin Lannister 2 (Aj The Epic, mozamis)
Alisae 2 (Nosferatu, ssbm_Kyouko)
Aj The Epic 1 (Transcend)
CloudKicker 1 (Gamma Emerald)
Lapsa 1 (Pine)
Pine 1 (CloudKicker)

Not Voting 2 (xSoniaNevermindx, Lil Uzi Vert)

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

The mod will be V/LA tomorrow.

In post 1608, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 1.9Titus 3 (Nero Cain, mozamis, Tywin Lannister)
Alisae 3 (Aj The Epic, Elbirn, ssbm_kyouko)
Lapsa 3 (Pine, CloudKicker, Alisae)
Tywin Lannister 2 (Titus, Lapsa)
Aj The Epic 1 (Transcend)
CloudKicker 1 (Nosferatu)
xSoniaNevermindx 1 (Gamma Emerald)

Not Voting 3 (Lil Uzi Vert, Cabd, xSoniaNevermindx)

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

Deadline for Day 1 is December 30 at 11 AM Eastern.

Transcend is being replaced.

In post 1946, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 1.10Lapsa 7 (Pine, CloudKicker, Alisae, Titus, Gamma Emerald, Lil Uzi Vert, ssbm_Kyouko)
Titus 4 (Nero Cain, mozamis, Tywin Lannister, Syryana)
Alisae 1 (Aj The Epic)
Tywin Lannister 1 (Lapsa)
CloudKicker 1 (Nosferatu)

Not Voting 3 (Cabd, xSoniaNevermindx, Elbirn)

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

Deadline for Day 1 is December 30 at 11 AM Eastern.

While the mod at least exists now, he will nonetheless be kinda-on-vacation for the next week.

In post 2084, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 1.F
Lapsa 9 (Pine, CloudKicker, Titus, Gamma Emerald, Lil Uzi Vert, ssbm_Kyouko, Cabd, Syryana, Alisae)

Nosferatu 3 (Elbirn, xSoniaNevermindx, Lapsa)
Titus 3 (Nero Cain, mozamis, Tywin Lannister)
Alisae 1 (Aj The Epic)
CloudKicker 1 (Nosferatu)

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

It is now Night 1. 48 hours for actions.

In post 2242, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 2.1ssbm_Kyouko 3 (Alisae, Aj The Epic, Tywin Lannister)
Tywin Lannister 1 (xSoniaNevermindx)

Not Voting 10 (others)

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

In post 2351, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 2.2ssbm_Kyouko 3 (Alisae, Aj The Epic, Tywin Lannister)
Tywin Lannister 3 (xSoniaNevermindx, Pine, Alisae)

Not Voting 8 (others)

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

In post 2509, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 2.3Tywin Lannister 3 (xSoniaNevermindx, Pine, Alisae)
ssbm_Kyouko 2 (Aj The Epic, Tywin Lannister)
mozamis 1 (Titus)
Nero Cain 1 (mozamis)
Nosferatu 1 (Elbirn)

Not Voting 6 (others)

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

In post 2710, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 2.4ssbm_Kyouko 3 (Aj The Epic, Tywin Lannister, Nero Cain)
mozamis 3 (Titus, ssbm_Kyouko, Pine)
Tywin Lannister 1 (Alisae)
Nosferatu 1 (Elbirn)
Alisae 1 (Nosferatu)
Aj The Epic 1 (mozamis)
xSoniaNevermindx 1 (Gamma Emerald)
Nero Cain 1 (xSoniaNevermindx)

Not Voting 2 (Syryana, Cabd)

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline for Day 2 is Friday, January 6, 2 PM Eastern.

I have become aware that Syryana is having some access issues and will not be prodding or replacing him at this time.
Apologies for the lack of presence, my vacation ends tomorrow and at least daily VCs can be expected thereafter.

In post 2891, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 2.5mozamis 6 (Titus, ssbm_Kyouko, Pine, Gamma Emerald, Alisae, Aj The Epic)
ssbm_Kyouko 2 (Tywin Lannister, Nero Cain)
Aj The Epic 2 (mozamis, Elbirn)
Alisae 1 (Nosferatu)
Nero Cain 1 (xSoniaNevermindx)

Not Voting 2 (Syryana, Cabd)

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline for Day 2 is Friday, January 6, 2 PM Eastern.

I have become aware that Syryana is having some access issues and will not be prodding or replacing him at this time.

In post 3017, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 2.F
mozamis 8 (Titus, ssbm_Kyouko, Pine, Gamma Emerald, Alisae, Aj The Epic, Nero Cain, Elbirn)

Aj The Epic 3 (Elbirn, Cabd, Tywin Lannister)
Tywin Lannister 1 (xSoniaNevermindx)
Alisae 1 (Nosferatu)

Not Voting 1 (Syryana)

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

Syryana will have to respond to a PM from me by night's end or I'll be forced to replace him.

In post 3123, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 3.1Tywin Lannister 5 (Pine, ssbm_Kyouko, Titus, Gamma Emerald, Elbirn)
Nero Cain 1 (Alisae)

Not Voting 5 (the rest o yall)

In post 3184, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 3.2Tywin Lannister 4 (Pine, Titus, Gamma Emerald, Tywin Lannister)
ssbm_Kyouko 1 (Alisae)

Not Voting 6 (los otros)

In post 3322, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 3.3Tywin Lannister 2 (Titus, Gamma Emerald)
ssbm_Kyouko 2 (Tywin Lannister, xSoniaNevermindx)
Pine 1 (Alisae)

Not Voting 6 (los otros)

In post 3398, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 3.3bTywin Lannister 2 (Titus, Gamma Emerald)
ssbm_Kyouko 2 (Tywin Lannister, xSoniaNevermindx)
Pine 1 (Alisae)

Not Voting 6 (others)

In post 3506, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 3.4Tywin Lannister 2 (Titus, Gamma Emerald)
ssbm_Kyouko 2 (xSoniaNevermindx, Alisae)
Pine 1 (Tywin Lannister)
Titus 1 (Elbirn)

Not Voting 5 (others)

In post 3769, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 3.6Gamma Emerald 5 (Elbirn, Aj The Epic, Alisae, Tywin Lannister, Nero Cain)
Tywin Lannister 2 (Titus, Gamma Emerald)
ssbm_Kyouko 1 (xSoniaNevermindx)
Aj The Epic 1 (ssbm_Kyouko)
Nero Cain 1 (Pine)

Not Voting 1 (gerryoat)

Sonia is V/LA.

In post 3851, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 3.7Gamma Emerald 4 (Aj The Epic, Alisae, Tywin Lannister, Nero Cain)
Tywin Lannister 2 (Gamma Emerald, Pine)
Nero Cain 2 (Titus, ssbm_Kyouko)
ssbm_Kyouko 1 (xSoniaNevermindx)

Not Voting 2 (gerryoat, Elbirn)

Sonia is V/LA.

In post 3947, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 3.8Gamma Emerald 5 (Aj The Epic, Tywin Lannister, Nero Cain, Alisae, xSoniaNevermindx)
Tywin Lannister 2 (Gamma Emerald, Pine)
Nero Cain 1 (Titus)

Not Voting 3 (gerryoat, Elbirn, ssbm_Kyouko)

Sonia is V/LA.

In post 3976, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 3.FGamma Emerald 6 (Aj The Epic, Tywin Lannister, Nero Cain, Alisae, xSoniaNevermindx, ssbm_Kyouko)
Tywin Lannister 2 (Gamma Emerald, Pine)
Nero Cain 1 (Titus)

Not Voting 2 (gerryoat, Elbirn)

Titus · Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:30 am

Yup. Skimming tells me Tywin, AJ, Nero.

Tywin might be a towbeard but given the three counterwagons to Tywin who are all town, he needs to eat rope before lylo.

I am still much more confident in Elbrin. I would have near perfect confudence in him being scum but for Nero's unbolded vote counting.

Titus · Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:31 am

*Tywin Elbrin Nero

Not AJ. Boo ringing phones.

Titus · Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:35 am

I am putting effort in. I just don't wallfight w scumreads, particularly without a claim.

The D1 cw and you hammerring a mason without a claim are red flags alone.

Titus · Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:50 pm

In post 4038, Elbirn wrote:"I don't wallfight with scumreads"
What the hell was that tywin fight you had day 1 then? Jesus. Like this is why I've been having such a bad time with you this game, I want to just play the game assuming that you're town but then you rustle my Jimmie with bad things. This right here is like "lol elbirn I'm just not gonna engage u because fairy dust, lul :^)"

I give, I'm writing you off as town and accepting whatever happens, but I'm just gonna ignore you for the most part cuz nothing productive is gonna happen

I didn't wall fight with Tywin. I proved he's a liar.

Are you going to do something other than whine about me being town?

Titus · Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:51 pm

In post 4040, Pine wrote:
In post 1078, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 1076, Nero Cain wrote:Even-though Titus complains about meta she's actively aware and spouts her "I don't bus as scum" meta. In that same street fighters game that I posted earlier, she defended one of her buddies hard....but also bussed on of her buddies hard.

My stance is that scum are plenty capable of defending their buddy but town also whiteknight/defend and I'm not skilled enough to tell the difference.
player from 2009 and ure not confident in your reads

In post 1083, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 1078, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 1076, Nero Cain wrote:Even-though Titus complains about meta she's actively aware and spouts her "I don't bus as scum" meta. In that same street fighters game that I posted earlier, she defended one of her buddies hard....but also bussed on of her buddies hard.

My stance is that scum are plenty capable of defending their buddy but town also whiteknight/defend and
I'm not skilled enough to tell the difference.
player from 2009 and ure not confident in your reads
sounds bogus
This is the primary interaction I'm basing my interpretation on. This doesn't look like a "Hey I'm on your side" interaction. It's antagonistic. Remember, per Mod and the Normal guidelines, CK knew scum, but scum didn't know him. CK would have been trying to signal his identity to his compatriots, not harass them.

Looks more like coaching to me.

Titus · Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:52 pm

In post 4039, Nero Cain wrote:TBF its not like we knew that my unbolded vote would count. In fact this is the first time I've ever had an unbolded vote count.

That's why I am not pummeling Elbrin.

Titus · Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:30 pm

Pine, I do not want AJ today.

I will do Elbrin Nero or Tywin. Yet, I see the legit frustration in his posts.

Titus · Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:38 pm

In post 4064, Pine wrote:Of course there's frustration. He got nailed on D2, but has been hanging around for days because this Town likes shiny things.

Titus, please comment on the scumslip I pointed out.

Which post? Sorry my pc died...

Titus · Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:41 pm

My pc died.

Titus · Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:07 pm

In post 4068, Pine wrote:
In post 4062, Pine wrote:
In post 4058, Tywin Lannister wrote:Can we just lynch me already
so people like Pine/Elibrin can actually look for real scum in Lylo
?
The bolded is the slip. It reveals that your scumread on me (I forget your position on Elbrin) is fake, because you're suggesting we're going to be doing real scumhunting in LYLO. If you had a real scumread, you wouldn't be thinking that.

Not a slip. Actual scum is a phrase I have used before.

Titus · Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:08 pm

It's more of mislynch me so you can get over yourself.

Titus · Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:40 am

I will not vote Sonia.

Tywin vote Nero. Please. I would rather vote scum today.

Titus · Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:40 am

In post 4092, gerryoat wrote:i think i'd be fine with either sonia or tywin lynched today

I am not ok with either.

Titus · Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:43 pm

In post 4208, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Half way done my book and calmed down.
UNVOTE:
Still think Pine is the best lynch.
But Nero is good.
Elb is most likely town due to vc I guess

VC suggests Elbrin scum.

Titus · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:32 am

In post 4218, gerryoat wrote:titus show me why VC suggests that. also, you think nero is maf right?

6 on Elbrin, 5 on Lapsa

Titus · Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:32 pm

I am not bored. I will catch up tomorrow. I had major catchups from my PC issues.

Lynch Nero tyvm.

Titus · Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:20 am

Elbrin, I don't actually care for being conftown much.

Those last sentences are why I am tunnelling Nero.

Anyone who votes tomorrow prior to my VCA being done likely eats rope. Doubly so if Nero is town.

If Nero town, Elbrin or Tywin should be the lynch.

Never lynch Sonia/Gerry.

Mason claims tomorrow. First post. It helps with vca.

Titus · Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:11 am

Elbrin and I should talk before day end.

Stuck at court.

Will you be here US afternoon/tonight?

Titus · Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:49 am

I am not scumreading you for you scumreading me before.

I have had massive RL and I have done much more than you here.

Sonia is confirmed to me based on D1.

Titus · Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:50 am

In post 4345, Pine wrote:
In post 4332, Pine wrote:Titus, you're going to have to justify your TR on Tywin for us to continue being friends.

Tywin's acting like I do when I know my lynch would help the game.

Plus Nero and Elbrin are all over that shit.

Nero's still doing nothing but whine about me.

Titus · Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:00 pm

In post 4348, Elbirn wrote:Shock and awe, I want the compulsive liar dead.

Please please please talk to us about sonia. I really want to know why she's town. Convince me.

I cannot convince scum their mislynch is town.

Titus · Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:53 am

VOTE: Nero

If Nero flips town and I die, Sonia votes first. If Sonia doesn't vote within 72 hours or have a vla, lynch her.

If she does, wait for hammer.

If no hammer,give deference to Sonia being town but do your thing. Sonia is picked to vote first as I am 99.9% sure they are town but cannot articulate it and consensus scumreads should vote first in lylo. It greatly ups the odds of hitting scum.

If Nero flips scum and I die, I recommend a Tywin/Elbrin pool.

@Elbrin, I made effort to discuss shit with you but you saying you don't like me as a person welll....I have zero interest to discuss with you.

Titus · Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:56 am

Oh mason claims if Nero flips town.

VT PR massclaim.

It starts w Sonia.

Titus · Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:03 am

I asked if you could meet. You couldn't. You started lying about Sonia, so I gave up. You personally attacked me, so I said fuck you.

Titus · Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:19 pm

I counterclaim intelligence. We are not lynching Sonia or Pine. Sonia's fake was p town imo.

Titus · Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:20 pm

VOTE: Elbrin

Titus · Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:29 pm

The last mason claims today. I decided.

Titus · Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:30 pm

I buy a no kill at this point over Pine blocking Sonia successfully.

Titus · Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:00 pm

In post 4428, Elbirn wrote:A no killing scum team guarantees their own loss so I don't know why they would. There's conftown titus, a mason, and probably a 3rd unknown power role who will basically be conftown when they claim. If scum stops shooting even if they got to Lylo somehow it'd be them versus conftown.

Except for maybe a no kill gambit to claim doc, or pretend they were doc saved and are therefore town, but that seems to have backfired here

The third power role is dead.

Titus · Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:26 pm

In post 4426, Pine wrote:Titus, ffs. If you don't want to play this game productively, replace out.

We aren't friends anymore (in this game)

The Nero lynch was very productive.

Titus · Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:59 pm

In post 4438, Pine wrote:The Nero lynch was lucky. Nero was playing a good game, and there was shit all reason for his lynch. There are two people here who are actually scummy, and you're lolTRing them for no reason I can see. The best I can tell, you rolled a die to decide your reads here.

*shrug* If you cannot listen to me telling you why Nero was scum, whatever. If it makes you feel better to say Nero was luck. Whatever.

The moment Cabd announced I was clearish, Nero did nothing. That is why we lynched him.

You can keep calling my methods luck, or you can sheep, or listen and discuss. I just am not inclined to repeat myself.

Titus · Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:00 pm

In post 4434, gerryoat wrote:no it doesnt, but like. why else would there be a nk? especially in a situation where we get an extra ml

You're the mason I presume.

If scum rolecopped Pine, and there are 4...it's gg. We lynch Sonia, she flips town. We lynch Pine for lying. Endgame. No conftowns.

Titus · Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:38 pm

In post 4441, Pine wrote:Why the fuck would I lie at this point

To lynch Sonia because I won't without evidence

Titus · Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:28 pm

Yeah, it's probably Elbrin...so...

Titus · Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:52 pm

In post 4448, Aj The Epic wrote:??? Why does Elbrin no kill?

Keep in mind, I have as mafia no killed in situations as a solo mafia before. I would not in this situation follow that pattern. There is 0 benefit to a no kill.

Other than ensuring Pine and Sonia get lynched and me being dead before lylo...

Titus · Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:04 pm

In post 4450, Aj The Epic wrote:he would have to know of a RB role and somehow manipulate out a fake claim of sonia of her own free will?

Rolecop.

The fakeclaim from Sonia is irrelevant. Pine just roleblocks anyone but him. We reach the same place.

Pine prevented the kill lynch town.
Town flips town. Lynch Pine.

3p lylo.

Titus · Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:39 pm

In post 4452, Elbirn wrote:
In post 4447, Titus wrote:Yeah, it's probably Elbrin...so...
Your over inflated ego has a nasty habit of suspecting only people you don't like, beyond any sense of reason or logical deduction.

If you can actually think that I'm scum after yesterday, and after playing dozens of games with me as both alignments and should therefore absolutely know what I'm like as town/scum, and with a roleblocked scum in game, who you townread based on reasons that you have never divulged because "hurr durr I don't do shit when I'm conftown and I don't talk to scumreads", and in order to make this convoluted thought process work you have to say that pine is the last scum but somehow so am I

Then fuck it, I literally can't even.

There's a roleblocked player in the game. That's about the only fact I agree with here.

If there's something you'd like to discuss, go ahead. Doesn't change you and Nero crying over spilt milk rather than scumhunting.

Titus · Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:41 pm

As long as you keep crying, I am still voting.

Titus · Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:56 am

In post 4480, Elbirn wrote:I'm babbling a bit and I do a terrible job of explaining myself but hopefully someone can speak my moon-language

Pedit: I pre-empted your Occam's razor

I don't see how town gets to have roleblocker, 2 masons, a vig, a gunsmith, and a vanilla cop....while scum gets a traitor (negative utility) and a motion detector, and maybe a 3rd thing we don't know yet but stillll.

I think scum-roleblocker just claimed his actual role. Scum need a roleblocker or a doc or something in this setup, something to counteract town power.

4 scum.

Titus · Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:44 am

In post 4487, gerryoat wrote:
In post 4458, gerryoat wrote:Titus, please. Tell me why you TR aj.

In post 4458, gerryoat wrote:Titus, please. Tell me why you TR aj.

In post 4458, gerryoat wrote:Titus, please. Tell me why you TR aj.

In post 4458, gerryoat wrote:Titus, please. Tell me why you TR aj.

In post 4458, gerryoat wrote:Titus, please. Tell me why you TR aj.

PoE, VCA.

You should confirm or deny if you are last mason.

Titus · Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:46 am

In post 4497, gerryoat wrote:I'll be the mason for today. Doesn't matter, I led the lynch on Nero when you guys were all trying to push mislynches.

I want a direct yes or no.

And I lead that Nero charge tyvm.

Titus · Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:48 am

In post 4501, Elbirn wrote:Stop comparing dick sizes it does not matter thanks in advance

Yup. I can buy them, so mine is bigger. Haha.

Titus · Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:48 am

In post 4502, gerryoat wrote:
In post 4499, Titus wrote:I want a direct yes or no.

And I lead that Nero charge tyvm.
no you dont need one and no you didnt lmao. i had to ask you 5 times to vote Nero

Yes I do.

Titus · Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:35 am

In post 4537, gerryoat wrote:
In post 4337, Nero Cain wrote:I don't think you are all that interested in helping town.

Aj The Epic wrote:Gerry I'm waiting for you to play the game but you don't seem that interested. Like all you do is parrot yourself and pray that your own ego is big enough to get someone lynched even though it's among the worst plays that can be made given today's context. Your play is OBJECTIVELY bad.
They sound alike, must be scum

Elbrin treated me like that too.

Titus · Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:37 am

In post 4529, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:VOTE: Aj
I should still prob not be in lylo but w/e

I am not voting AJ.

Titus · Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:41 am

In post 2084, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 1.F
Lapsa 9 (Pine, CloudKicker, Titus, Gamma Emerald, Lil Uzi Vert, ssbm_Kyouko, Cabd, Syryana, Alisae)

Nosferatu 3 (Elbirn, xSoniaNevermindx, Lapsa)
Titus 3 (Nero Cain, mozamis, Tywin Lannister)
Alisae 1 (Aj The Epic)
CloudKicker 1 (Nosferatu)

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

No reason for Sonia to be bussing in this VC. Not voting Sonia.

Titus · Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:44 am

In post 4331, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 4.3Tywin Lannister 3 (Pine, Elbirn, Nero Cain)
Nero Cain 2 (gerryoat, Tywin)
Pine 1 (Sonia)

Not Voting (Titus, Aj)

8 alive, 5 to lynch.

Nero versus Tywin. Look who suddenly views Tywin as expungable. Elbrin.

Titus · Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:46 am

In post 176, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 1.3Elbirn 6 (Lil Uzi Vert, xSoniaNevermindx, Aj The Epic, ssbm_Kyouko, Transcend, CloudKicker)
Lapsa 5 (Pine, Gamma Emerald, Titus, Alisae, Elbirn)
Alisae 3 (Nosferatu, Lapsa, Tywin Lannister)
Gamma Emerald 1 (Cabd)

Not Voting 2 (Nero Cain, mozamis)

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

Red flag screaming sort Elbrin.

Titus · Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:21 am

If Elbrin is town, Sonia is scum.
If Elbrin is scum, it's GG.

Titus · Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:46 am

You did have a reason. Whiteknighting your counterwagon.

You only changed over to Tywin when it became clear it was Nero v Tywin due to my force of will. You voted Nero again when it became obvious that I was unshakable.

Two wagons, most of the game. We know scum aren't completely off the two major wagons due to math.

Titus · Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:23 am

In post 4553, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:I love how half of this is "get your head out of your ass"
FROM THE PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T BEEN VOTING SCUM ALL GAME
Like holy fuck get your ego checked if you've been wrong this whole game you're prob still wrong and should rethink you're whole fucking reads
morons

Yes, that's why you should sheep me and get your head out of your ass.

Titus · Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:23 am

In post 4554, gerryoat wrote:vote aj

No.

Titus · Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:35 pm

In post 4560, Pine wrote:Titus.

Excuse me, but shut the fuck up.

I have what amounts to a probable guilty.

No, you have circumstantial evidence that you interpret as a guilty.

Titus · Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:53 pm

In post 4566, Pine wrote:Yes, I do.

Great. I treat my VCA the same way, and it says flip Elbrin before Sonia possibly.

Sonia, I am not flipping AJ. Elbrin, or you die.

Titus · Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:19 pm

I was hoping you'd give a fuck to win as town.

Titus · Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:23 pm

Right now, there's two choices. Either Pine gets his way or I do.

Titus · Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:25 pm

If we lynch scum today, there's zero need for you to die at all.

Titus · Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:27 pm

If I am wrong, yes. I am not though.

Titus · Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:30 pm

In post 4580, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
In post 4578, Titus wrote:If I am wrong, yes. I am not though.
In the VC you said I had no need to bus on wouldn't the same thing go for elb also
Like the biggest thing against him was he was a huge counter wagon to Lap at one point

Yes. That's why he'd be bussing.

Titus · Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:58 pm

In post 4600, Elbirn wrote:Should we have a mass claim or nah?

Mass claim

Titus · Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:59 pm

VOTE: Sonia

I see no one wants to lynch Elbrin scum. Whatever.

Titus · Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:35 pm

List of players alive please.

Titus · Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:14 pm

In post 4621, Elbirn wrote:
In post 4605, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:I get ready for work and see I'm hammered.

Wow town was so fucking op I'm salty

In post 4617, Cephrir wrote:Sonia has been lynched. She was a...

Spoiler:
Townie
. Night 5 begins.

Why would you do this
Why would anyone ever do this

VOTE: Pine

Pine is still scum for everything I said before plus he was fuck af in twilight and idk something about his Mason hunting being a scumtell. There's also not a bodyguard and a town roleblocker in the same setup. There was too much town power *before* Gerry flipped bodyguard, come on now.

I was mason hunting.

Whining about power is more scum indicative than setup spec. Roleblocker is almost straight negative utility.

So, do you believe scum no killed? Why would scum!Pine out himself as a roleblocker with less than one lynch left?

Titus · Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:15 pm

Oh

VLA until Monday

You may see me modding occasionally.

Titus · Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:35 pm

In post 4630, Elbirn wrote:But you got a free mislynch out of it,
because who in their right mind wasn't going to lynch the person who was roleblocked the night of a nk.

It spent a town lynch on someone who otherwise was almost certainly not going to be lynched. Then you went from sonia not being a good target to titus hammering her despite hard town reading her because fuck this game apparently.

So that's exactly how that works and my logic is logic.

The bolded is the only reason for a scum no kill yesterday. That means town has a roleblocker and scum knew it. Thus, we are not lynching Pine no matter how stubborn headed he was yesterday that he had a guilty on Sonia.

Move on. Pick someone else Elbrin.

Titus · Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:46 am

Elbrin, either explain why scum no kill without a roleblocker or pick someone else.

Titus · Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:16 am

So, to be clear Elbrin, your pool is Elbrin or Tywin?

Titus · Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:58 am

I was asking Elbrin for his scumpool

Under his theory, only you or Tywin could be scum. If town!Pine, then scum!Tywin and dumb Pine. If scum Pine, then scum Pine.

Titus · Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:04 am

And what is your theory?

Titus · Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:23 pm

In post 4647, Elbirn wrote:
In post 4644, Titus wrote:I was asking Elbrin for his scumpool

Under his theory, only you or Tywin could be scum. If town!Pine, then scum!Tywin and dumb Pine. If scum Pine, then scum Pine.
This, yeah. I guess pine could be dumb but I've thought higher of his play than that so far and I'd think that if he blocked someone, and then a mod error announced that someone died who shouldn't have, that he'd figure it out realquik and make tywin dead.

Pine, your response to this?

Titus · Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:24 pm

Finally, I can do a Tywin lynch.

VOTE: Tywin

If this is wrong, fuck my life.

Titus · Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:57 pm

In post 4674, Elbirn wrote:Titus stole my thunder, now I'll never get credit for catching scum

What about MY ego Titus?

Give it hugs for actually showing up today.

#incrabbymood

Titus · Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:22 pm

4 alive, fucking a.

Pine, who did you block?

Titus · Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:51 am

In post 4683, Elbirn wrote:Fuck that shit

VOTE: No Lynch

VOTE: No lynch - vote early night

Pine, if scum deliberately no killed, they want the game state like this.

Titus · Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:05 am

In post 4699, Pine wrote:
In post 4697, Titus wrote:
In post 4683, Elbirn wrote:Fuck that shit

VOTE: No Lynch
VOTE: No lynch - vote early night

Pine, if scum deliberately no killed, they want the game state like this.
Yes, but my point is that no lynching won't change anything. Either they no kill again and we're back here once more, or they kill you or I and we're in this position with less wisdom.

I don't think Elbirn no kills and then stands on principle about no lynch.

Cabd cleared you ages ago.

It isn't me.

AJ is the only reasonable option, and I see it. I won't be voting no lynch.

VOTE: AJ

Let them kill. We force scum to kill.

Titus · Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:06 am

Who they kill suggests the lylo they want. I am not voting.