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Massclaim of hoods seems pointless today. Scum are already more "connected" than town and they will be for the game's duration. Aren't we just giving them a map.
We have a week-long day one. It's a reasonable amount of time for us to form not-reachy reads if we keep pace.
Quite a leap imoMarioManiac4 wrote: if we don't massclaim hoods there will be hugely stretching town/scum cases on people and the game will be extremely confusing.
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You're not wrong but it seems pointless to have these neighborhoods just to start with massclaiming them
I think there's a way to utilize the mechanics to town benefit. Just going with what seems instinctively "correct" right off the bat really isn't something that's appealing
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Really my only issue is that you had to start with this out of the gateMarioManiac4 wrote:so, what do y'all think of massclaiming hoods?
GinghamDog wrote:Meh, even if you don't agree with what MM is saying, would scum really stick their neck out this early like this?
It's not like I intended quicklynching. Rope is in this season, Mario's probably comfortable.
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Do you still want to lynch you tho?In post 29, GinghamDog wrote:That was intended more for beeboy.
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Why is that bad? Usually I nitpick at little things to get out of RVS. In this game, we have something to discuss to avoid that, and although I was planning to say it to get the game started and reactions, I thought about it and I like the idea.In post 28, Writers Bloque wrote:
Really my only issue is that you had to start with this out of the gateMarioManiac4 wrote:so, what do y'all think of massclaiming hoods?
Sometimes a central discussion lets scum blend in by "discussing". They can just flow right in to the game by talking about the same thing we're talking about.
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In post 43, Sobolev Space wrote:
What did you find problematic about that?In post 28, Writers Bloque wrote:Really my only issue is that you had to start with this out of the gateWriters Bloque wrote:MarioManiac4 wrote:
Why is that bad? Usually I nitpick at little things to get out of RVS. In this game, we have something to discuss to avoid that, and although I was planning to say it to get the game started and reactions, I thought about it and I like the idea.In post 28, Writers Bloque wrote:
Really my only issue is that you had to start with this out of the gateMarioManiac4 wrote:so, what do y'all think of massclaiming hoods?
Sometimes a central discussion lets scum blend in by "discussing". They can just flow right in to the game by talking about the same thing we're talking about.
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Jesus Christ it's page two
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Really my only issue [with Mario] is that [he] had to start with saying that out of the gate is how that should sound.Treblesome wrote:
This seems like backing down from what you originally said, which was that claiming hoods is pointless when scum already have the informational advantage. Why?In post 28, Writers Bloque wrote:
Really my only issue is that you had to start with this out of the gateMarioManiac4 wrote:so, what do y'all think of massclaiming hoods?
I still maintain the same position on the massclaim topic.
The question is what reason is there not to?Treblesome wrote:
For what reason?In post 28, Writers Bloque wrote:GinghamDog wrote:Meh, even if you don't agree with what MM is saying, would scum really stick their neck out this early like this?
It's not like I intended quicklynching. Rope is in this season, Mario's probably comfortable.
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Well I did say not right at the startSobolev Space wrote:Like I really don't get how the timing is an issue for you unless you think there's some other time when it would have been better for him to bring it up.
It's pointless to discuss that now is what I mean because we've already made it a discussion. But it was really not a significant point to press in the first place. I did it anyway. Plus I got his reasoning out of it too.
In post 55, Sobolev Space wrote: Scum can 'blend' the same way in theoretical discussions whenever they're started.
Sure, but usually that's not the only thing they've posted at that point.
How people enter the game is important imo. If all you have to do to make a normal fluid entrance into the game is take a side on one thing that everyone else is talking about then you don't have to force a whole lot. Ideally I want scum to be uncomfortable as possible.ShowYou the dumb one... cause the same ropes I could have showed you to make it you getting hung from.
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In post 71, GinghamDog wrote:Who owns the neighborhood? Because if Treble is lying and also owns the neighborhood, I wouldn't necessarily trust whomever gets brought in to verify.
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Can you elaborate on the end? What is the chain of events where it doesn't work out?In post 78, GinghamDog wrote:I was thinking out loud. Treble could bring in whoever they wanted since they have a weighted vote. But it's kinda silly really since I doubt scum!Treble would invite their own scum buddy in to verify, since we'd have the scum team outed right there if it didn't work out.ShowYou the dumb one... cause the same ropes I could have showed you to make it you getting hung from.
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If Jason were killed and flips town that would confirm scum!Treble and their partner, on the contraryIn post 84, GinghamDog wrote:
Hypothetically, scum!Treble recruits their scum buddy, together they push the narrative that Jason is the real scum. If somehow Jason becomes confirmed town or at least puts up a better argument somehow, then the scum team is pretty much out in the open. But even if Jason is killed and flips town, they still don't look good. So for this reason, I don't think it's a strategy scum!Treble would use.In post 83, Writers Bloque wrote: Can you elaborate on the end? What is the chain of events where it doesn't work out?
That's why it isn't viable at all really, that hypothetical
I've thought Jason was genuine. I'm factoring in the "aggression to towntell" thing but there's people that post like that.
It seems like a genuine misunderstanding. Treble, you were expecting him to think you were dumb enough to scumslip in your neighborhood?ShowYou the dumb one... cause the same ropes I could have showed you to make it you getting hung from.
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Treblesome wrote:No, I was expecting him to respond in a way that acknowledged that we were very likely trolling. Not total confusion as to the possibilities. It wasn't super scum indicative, it's just one of many scummy things.
I don't particularly care what you think is genuine because this site as a whole has absolutely no clue how to read aggression or emotionality and I wouldn't take your word for it.
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Don't like Jason wagon at this point. Some scummy stuff about him but says to me him vs Treble is TvT.
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And I read the whole "THIS SITE HAS NO CLUE HOW TO READ AGGRESSION OR EMOTIONALITY" thing when it was posted
JW seems pretty authentic to me. reminds me of KidAmn town game . Of course I know scum fake these things
Not enough to foster a hard scumread on him right now. But the way he's playing opens him up if he's scum so I'm not really concerned?ShowYou the dumb one... cause the same ropes I could have showed you to make it you getting hung from.
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I only have an eye of who's posted and I want to have my vote on who I can consider a sr at this point
Nothing personal
"Do you want to lynch you?" Is a largely useless question. I wasn't pushing you seriously before
I want beeboy and edo to post more. I want Zulfy to post. I have trs on MM4 Jason and Treble right now. Sobolev Space hasn't necessarily made a negative impression on me.
I just think you've played a pretty safe game here. You ask a lot of questions and your stances are safe. I don't know you or how you play so I'm just going off what I feel from your posts total.
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Edos is also an okay vote for me. Zulfy probably not rnShowYou the dumb one... cause the same ropes I could have showed you to make it you getting hung from.
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Not true. Zulfy has a post saying he wasn't going to do anything at the moment. I don't think it's scummy from him.In post 167, Sobolev Space wrote:
Explain this. Both have done nothing.In post 159, Writers Bloque wrote:Edos is also an okay vote for me. Zulfy probably not rn
Edosurist's vote on beeboy with context was weird. The fact that he said nothing else can go either way.
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How do you dislike the wagon but TR both people voting him?In post 154, Writers Bloque wrote:Don't like Jason wagon at this point.
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Honestly I might have said that to anyone but I know him so it's even more pointless to push him over something NaI at this point to meShowYou the dumb one... cause the same ropes I could have showed you to make it you getting hung from.
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But I do want posting from him. Like I didn't expect not posting but it's not like he's going to remain quietShowYou the dumb one... cause the same ropes I could have showed you to make it you getting hung from.
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In post 183, Sobolev Space wrote:something. Fwiw if I had a second vote it would be on WritersBloque. Something about their posts keep gut pinging me and their responses to my questions haven't been enough to convince me their content isn't faked.
A little drunk rn but will review Mario v Jason in the morning.
Hopefully this game picks up after the weekend because this is zzzzz
Well what a coinky-dink. I wanted to vote you too.
So if we wrote our posts a certain way you wouldn't think they're fake?In post 183, Sobolev Space wrote: their responses to my questions haven't been enough to convince me their content isn't faked.
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GOd dammit I was supposed to vote you first. You have destroyed my theatricals
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VOTE: Sobolev Space
This is what I was saying. You reacting this way defeats the purpose. The premise of us not convincing you our posts are real is based on us having lazy scum play.Sobolev Space wrote:VOTE: WritersBloque
Yes. Good scum can make natural sounding read progressions and content. This is why scum hunting should be multi-dimensional.In post 187, Writers Bloque wrote:So if we wrote our posts a certain way you wouldn't think they're fake?
Basically.. what scum is supposed to do?
I can't really find fault with you not liking the way posts are posted unless you have a specific problem with what's stated... you're not convinced I believe what I say? You're not convinced it's right? You're not convinced the statements are grounded in something tangible?
I don't see what you related in these two.
This was because Treblesome asserted
In post 129, Treblesome wrote:Like, if I make a list of the times that scum!FA has pulled the exact same progression on someone that was scumreading them, right down to the outright hostility, and been called town for it, will that change people's views? With all the times everyone's said nah she's town, she wouldn't do that as scum, the spite and rage is towny, it's universal. Your read here is statistically bad.
Jason's behaviour is not towny and it's explicitly not towny in a way that I'm used to people townreading in spite of it. Jasonwazza's play up to this point does not deserve to be townread.
If it's going to be called a null to look back after I'll take it but if everyone's going to townread him then I don't really have an option to double down because I don't like losing to people who play like this.
Am I saying that everyone who is aggressive like this is scum? fuck no. I hard townread Jason in his last game with me and he ended up getting mislynched, not by me.
But I'm very, very used to people doing exactly what Jason is doing as scum and winning so I have to make a verybig dealout of this.
this. I know it wasn't addressed at me I just wanted to make clear that I looked at the whole Treble vs Jason and this stuff and my read there right now is well founded IMO. Jason hasn't done enough stuff though I will admit. This game's a little quiet
It was how I justified it. The reason I haven't invested into that vote is because I don't believe it to hold that much weight anymore.Sobolev Space wrote: 158 just feels like a weird justification for a vote
Posts like those below have been somewhat of an explanation to most of my initial reasons to scumread her:
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? You act like I put you as lock scum. Even you said I outlined why that doesn't really mean anything, and I said you weren't someone I was genuinely pushing especially since you explained your thought processes.
Sobolev isn't scum for the case on me, she's just scum. It feels like she was trying to set me up for a push as in; I don't think the progressions are genuine. That "case" can justify a vote on me but without further explanation which I'll get at some point it's completely hollow.
This is what I thought you meant but I already addressed this when you asked me about it before.Sobolev Space wrote:Shit meant 64 there my bad. Will respond to the rest when I have more time.
You act like I took a hardline stance on Zulfy then 180'd. It's not the case. You've said you know I wasn't calling him scum with that initial post. All things considered you can't even get anything AI from our interaction and my "backing off". You have to stretch something a little.
So again I'm not sure whether or not you have an issue with my explanations and if so, what? Is it how I word things or is my meaning unclear?
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I worded the end of that post really poorly. The scumread doesn't hold weight anymore because I think you're town because my initial reasons to scumread you can be explained (I can attribute what I consider scummy behavior to actually be play that lines up with what you've said)ShowYou the dumb one... cause the same ropes I could have showed you to make it you getting hung from.
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In post 183, Sobolev Space wrote:
I haven't played with him before either. My vote on him started as semi-RVS but out of all the lurkers I liked his posts the least so I'm keeping it there until he gets replaced/does something. Fwiw if I had a second vote it would be on WritersBloque. Something about their posts keep gut pinging me and their responses to my questions haven't been enough to convince me their content isn't faked.In post 180, Treblesome wrote:Sobolev, do you really think voting Zulfy is going to make him participate? Out of curiosity; haven't played with him before.In post 205, Sobolev Space wrote:
I agree with you that it looks like he changed his justification to an extent after the fact. I misinterpreted your original case and thought you were solely voting him for his early push not his comments on it afterwards. Its enough to give Jason a light SR. But Writers needs to die first.In post 194, MarioManiac4 wrote:
Because Treblesome had pushed him on it and he wanted to defend his stance but didn't really want to re-evaluate his position, so he took the out that it was a reaction test. Why do you think he would do it as town?In post 191, Sobolev Space wrote:Mario why do you think Jason decided to lie later on about his initial push on you?
LMAO what a leap. Zulfy completely out of sight huh
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I don't really care to read Zach or SS's walls right now, but I agree SS feels pretty scummy. Her input before this big push on us is very reserved and non-accusatory. The questions aimed at our slot over Zach's concern with MM's entrance is nit picky. It doesn't commit her to a read on our slot, but can be used to segue into a sr if she sees something she think we can run with. The only thing giving me pause is that the game was practically dead before this argument. I'll read it after some sleep.
It's also a shame that I didn't get to post before Tanya replaced out.
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This post is really bad. You left your read on Mario up in the air, so it reads like a buddying attempt at JW.In post 168, Sobolev Space wrote:
TR on mario is waningIn post 147, JasonWazza wrote:Why is it the first thing back you do is try and discredit the vote and not react to anything else that happened in 3/4 pages?
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Cool. Your push definitely looks organic nowSobolev Space wrote:
Just checked and I actually only mentioned my scumread on WB in one neighborhood. In the other I made an early game comment along the lines of "I'm interested in seeing how WritersBloque answers my questions before deciding on my read on them".In post 220, Sobolev Space wrote:During this time I did mention in both my neighborhoods that I find WB a little scummy (my neighbors can confirm this if necessary) but I'm trying to question them first to sort.
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Is there a good reason to lynch in the dark? Replacements will provide content if it comes to that.
Regardless of your opinion on us vs Scumbolev_Space our 1v1 is obviously significant in some way that hasn't been made clear yet. goes for Treble vs Jason too
Defaulting to lurker pool means you don't care about either of those things
Any specific reason besides the 1 thing at gamestart lolMarioManiac4 wrote: WB is probably lower than nullShowYou the dumb one... cause the same ropes I could have showed you to make it you getting hung from.
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scanning post for factsIn post 232, MarioManiac4 wrote:because the chance of you having a scum role pm is higher than average
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Scum is more likely to be self aware about something like this, no? I know you're sorting them still, but would you be willing to lynch either JW or SS?In post 241, beeboy wrote:GD: 160 This post is basically a POE that scum reads all the lurkers and GD isn't even that self aware about it.
Not really, I'd rather a different lurker to him if it came down to it.MarioManiac4 wrote:I like a beeboy lynch. Does anyone like a beeboy lynch?
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In post 254, Zachstralkita wrote:Zulfy if you get replaced im going to be mad ( ( (
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Alright everybody, hold it down. Is anyone looking to actually play tonight? We need to find a wagon boys. Most of the votes are people voting the person that is currently voting them. The bystanders need to weigh in here. I'm not too big on the leading wagons, but I'd lynch ZZZX over MM if it came down to it.
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Is this still your listIn post 217, Treblesome wrote:So.
{SS}
{MM4, Gingham}
{lurkers at null}
{WB}
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I'm pretty sure ZZZX is going to lurk out too, so that's basically 3 slots going dark.
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If we have to lynch in the lurkers my preference is Edos/ZZZX/Zulfy
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Did you read all of our interactions? Even the stuff SS hasn't responded to yet? What you highlighted is just from the first few.ShowYou the dumb one... cause the same ropes I could have showed you to make it you getting hung from.
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And that's def not all the important stuffShowYou the dumb one... cause the same ropes I could have showed you to make it you getting hung from.
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lol I just realized you're pushing us on nothing actuallyShowYou the dumb one... cause the same ropes I could have showed you to make it you getting hung from.
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In post 283, Sobolev Space wrote:Ugh.
There's something about the push to lynch lurkers in the past 2 pages that doesn't seem right to me. I'll look back over it tomorrow. It just feels like the sentiment came up very suddenly and people were too quick to agree on it.
What a ping. Yes this happened because there's not enough people playing for us to do stuff apparently or no one cares
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Why don't you just sell them on usSobolev Space wrote:Treble sell me on an edos lynch. I kinda liked his opening
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In post 289, Aristophanes wrote:Landmark replaces Zulfy!!!
A 1 day extension has been granted.
This will be reflected in the next VC
@Edos what you highlighted in our/SS interaction is from like our first few conversations. I respond to the whole Zulfy thing laterShowYou the dumb one... cause the same ropes I could have showed you to make it you getting hung from.
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intent on zzzx. I'm unsure on the current dl, but I would like some posts from landmark, and a prod on zzzx before going through with this.
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Someone tell me why Sobolev is town again? In a game with more lurkers than actives you can't lynch someone if they'ree widely townread by the only people who post
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I still don't think the JW "slip" means literally anything at all but the slot has done jack shit and there's been ample time. Plus my desired is not really viable as said aboveShowYou the dumb one... cause the same ropes I could have showed you to make it you getting hung from.
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I'm going to issue a level 2 retraction on this intent to hammer
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I (Zach) wrote 299
HeyGinghamDog wrote: And why do you disagree with each other on the hammer?
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In post 302, GinghamDog wrote:I have no issue hammering unless ZZZX appears suddenly with a breathtaking town post in the next few hours.
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ZZZX is the lesser of three bad lynches (Edo,Landmark,ZZZX). Of those he's about as likely to flip scum as Zulfy but the difference is Zulfy has no content and JW had some townie stuff to me. He would be the lynch since our top SR Sobolev Space is impossible. We have Landmark who will hopefully post and Edos has been trying to get into the game I think so those aren't preferred. Why hammer my town read though(Narna has a scum read there I believe). The lynch will still happen, because one of you have to do it if we won't. If you're active and scum you're not going to let no lynch happen with an L-1 wagon or it might as well be a scum claim. And regardless of what he flips we can sort the ZZZX wagonGinghamDog wrote:Badly worded question. I'm not trying to focus on the disagreement between you, just want to hear more of your opinions on the matter. Based on 299, it seems that you're coming around to the idea of voting ZZZX.
But now.. you've pinged me
It's cool to say vote me when there's not enough active people who are willing to lynch you.
Knowing this suggesting I attempt to flashwagon you with less than 24 hours less and maybe half of the game "inactive" for all intents and purposes is disingenuous.
I mean I have no problem with voting you now. Narna never did to begin with. But if I vote you I want you lynched, so I'd rather not do it until maybe this gets cleared up or you become apparent scum somehow
You don't even want his claim and are fine with hammerGinghamDog wrote:I have no issue hammering unless ZZZX appears suddenly with a breathtaking town post in the next few hours.
You said "breathtaking town post"
Those aren't the same at all and it's not like you implied that "breathtaking town post" would include a claim. Far too general
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Then vote me?In post 307, Writers Bloque wrote: This post is scummy AF LOL
Then this is your response... (see middle of post)
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Near impossible that we get 3 more votes on it if you join though so can't really be done todayIn post 311, beeboy wrote:
I wouldn't mind this is as well tbh.In post 298, Writers Bloque wrote:Someone tell me why Sobolev is town again? In a game with more lurkers than actives you can't lynch someone if they'ree widely townread by the only people who post
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beeboy do you scumread Gingham?ShowYou the dumb one... cause the same ropes I could have showed you to make it you getting hung from.
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It's because we have 3 players who have literally posted nothing. We can't play this setup like that or the game is just going to be people vote parking on their day 1 scumread and the same 2 people having discussionIn post 313, ZZZX wrote:So I just replaced in and about to get lynched for... reasons?
Fuck that shit. Ain't taking that
Apathy is easy loss
So yeah if everyone else was playing maybe you can be mad at us lynching you but this is circumstance. You're obv not optimal imo
You gonna wait until you have one minute to claim?
Mind you I tr your slot but this Day 1 fuckery is evil. So evilShowYou the dumb one... cause the same ropes I could have showed you to make it you getting hung from.
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Okay. I see by the time I get up it's gonna be past deadline.
VOTE: ZZZX
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