[Game Over] Newbie 1784 - Escape Room
-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
Hello! Nice to meet you all. So we're stuck here then.
First game and I'm already overwhelmed. I do get that this strategy puts town in a better spot, but I agree with Nancy that it seems like a rather bad way to start out a game for newbies, and not much fun at all. I'm sure there will be plenty of time to read about this strategy inbetween later games. On second hand TesXX and Loopdan both seem eager to steer the victory towards town, while Nancy doesn't seem to support this agenda. For now I'll claim not BP and
VOTE: nancy.
Feels a bit bad, as you're the first person I've agreed with in here.-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
Well about 80% of TesXX' posts till now relate to the BP-claiming-strat and it's usefulness for town.In post 82, Srceenplay wrote:How are they eager to steer town to victory?
As for Loopdan
Seems pretty eager to me.In post 11, Loopdan wrote:Everyone needs to make their BP or notBP claims immediately. Do this in your first post. Do not stall. Do not claim or hint at any other roles you may have and don't hint that you donothave a power role.
She still wants to boycott a town-winning strategy. Even though I agree with her that the strat is more frightening than helpful in a newbie-game, I'd still say there's a higher probability she's scum.In post 82, Srceenplay wrote:Why vote Nancy if you feel bad about it?-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
I have nothing to hide; my vote is solely based on supposed probability. If some other good theories come around, I'll surely listen.In post 90, Pine wrote:VOTE: StealthyNoodle
Trumping up the charges against nancy and gross exaggeration are pretty classic scum tactics.
What are your reasons for defending her on the other hand? Joking around with friends is something anyone could do; scum or not.-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
Not at all, I just find it more likely. He supports the use of a pro-town strat, while you don't. Simple as pie.In post 93, nancy wrote:Do you think that makes TesXX towny? If so, why?
You're right, my bad.In post 93, nancy wrote:I don't think the strat is frightening in the least.
Well, let me just re-quote your quote of me.In post 93, nancy wrote:Why did you claim even though you agreed with me, and why did you vote me? You're at L-2, btw.
Even though I agree with you, I have no reason to not claim not BP.In post 93, nancy wrote:In post 89, StealthyNoodle wrote:She still wants to boycott a town-winning strategy.-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
Oh and I simply explain my reasons for my vote, because you ask me too. I'd say calling it a gross exaggeration, is an exaggeration in itself. Shame on you.In post 90, Pine wrote:VOTE: StealthyNoodle
Trumping up the charges against nancy and gross exaggeration are pretty classic scum tactics.-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
I didn't go along with it, because I didn't want to end up in your position. Seems like I dug my own grave instead.In post 100, nancy wrote: If you agree that the strat should not be used, you have every reason not to go along with it.
Not claiming anything would put me in a bad spot, regardless of whether I supported the idea(of introducing this strat in newbie game) or not. Or am I missing something?In post 11, Loopdan wrote: Everyone needs to make their BP or notBP claims immediately. Do this in your first post. Do not stall.
I've never said it shouldn't be done. What I said, was that it felt like a bad way to start a newbie game.In post 102, Srceenplay wrote: If you agree it shouldn't be done but do it anyway, that's appeasing.-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
thank youIn post 104, Loopdan wrote:
Do you not see how regardless of your alignment it is anti-town to refuse the BP claims when others have already done it?In post 102, Srceenplay wrote:If you agree it shouldn't be done but do it anyway, that's appeasing.-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
I still agree.In post 126, nancy wrote:I don't want a BP claim or a Doc/Tracker claim on the board before Day 1 has even begun. It kills the game. It's not fun or interesting. It's simply churning mechanics and not what mafia is about, not how newbies should be learning to play. Tes has gotten away with being read as Town while producing 0 content whatsoever simply by pushing this strat and that is a perfect example of how crap it is.-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
I'm not really that eager to discuss this subject(and I know far too little about it), but doesn't this strat put a scummy newb in a really tough spot?In post 140, TesXX wrote:The mechanics play a big role in the game, and the newbiesshouldlearn to use them to their advantage.
I mean the main reason I dislike this strat, is because it seems to bring unbalance to the game.-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
In his current state, he's only making it easier for scum. He might or might not be scum himself, but being inactive isn't the way to prove your innocence.In post 159, Chronicle wrote:
Pretending to be proactive and generating content, but really that's a useless vote.In post 158, nancy wrote:Care to elaborate on the ew?
So you'd rather trust someone who won't respond to your questions then, than someone who does? You're just proving my point here, mate.In post 161, Chronicle wrote:Engaging with someone who hasn't even made an entry seems counter productive. There is nothing to gain, you can't even ask him a question when you don't know any of his stances.-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
Blows. Get well soon!In post 162, MiniDeathStar wrote:I have such a splitting headache
that I can barely tell bold text apart.-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
In post 168, Chronicle wrote: He hasn't come online since this game started. It's a lazy push.
Why the heck would he go online just to lurk? It would simply weaken his position as scum. Your reasoning makes no sense.In post 168, Chronicle wrote: A bjc is useless when he was last online 12 hours before this game started.
He entered the game at the moment he accepted his role. He might be flaking, he might be lurking. And hopefully he'll show up to speak his mind about that sooner or later.In post 168, Chronicle wrote: trying to engage someone who hasn't even entered the game will not help us progress the game.
Stop shoving people around. Again, if I feel like someone's more fit for the vote, I'll gladly change my mind.In post 168, Chronicle wrote: If you are town, stop being lazy with your vote.-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
Insight. And thanks.In post 170, nancy wrote:Well, what I've trying to push you towards looking at not strictly whether the you like the vote, but whether you like the post. I got hints of you reading into that in 159, but I wanted to see whether you just thought that voting lurkers on policy was bad or whether you were reading into Noodle's motivation and finding it lacking.
It looks like you have done this somewhat after all, which is great. But I'd also encourage you to question Noodle on it rather than just come to the conclusion that it's a bad post. (I certainly didn't), for instance, or may just not have thought it through very well, or may have been following a thought process that hadn't occurred to you, or something else entirely. The only way to know for sure (granted, he could always be scum and lie, so you can't really know for sure) is to question him.
Start a dialogue, create content. You think his push is lazy, but what does that mean about his alignment? Both Town and scum can be lazy, and both Town and scum can make good or bad posts. So what you really have to figure out here is how Noodle's post indicates one alignment or the other.
I knew.In post 170, nancy wrote: Noodle may very well not have realized that bjc hadn't come online since the game started-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
So, do you agree that he might very well be lurking then? And do you deny that lurking is a pro-scum strat?In post 173, Chronicle wrote:
Same if he were town? Him not posting in this thread is therefore not alignment indicative, as you have previously implied.In post 171, StealthyNoodle wrote:Why the heck would he go online just to lurk? It would simply weaken his position as scum. Your reasoning makes no sense.
For what reason would I include it? It's not at all relevant to my reply.In post 173, Chronicle wrote:
Convenient how you just snipped out the whole part about putting words in my mouth while replying to me.In post 171, StealthyNoodle wrote:He entered the game at the moment he accepted his role. He might be flaking, he might be lurking. And hopefully he'll show up to speak his mind about that sooner or later.
It doesn't seem like you're reading my posts at all. So let me rephrase:In post 173, Chronicle wrote:
Your vote is wasted on a slot that hasn't even logged in since the game started, and you voting him will not pop him an email telling him to check in on this game and post his thoughts.In post 171, StealthyNoodle wrote:Stop shoving people around. Again, if I feel like someone's more fit for the vote, I'll gladly change my mind.
And when he does finally catch up, he will post his thoughts accordingly. Your one vote doesn't do anything. It will not spur any sort of reaction, it does not give him any sort of incentive to pay more attention to this game, because he is not ignoring this game. Because he hasn't even logged in yet.
Your vote does not do anything. His inactivity thus far is not alignment indicative.
If bjc0303 is lurking, he sees this. If there's more pressure and he's still lurking, there'll probably be a response as well. To explain further:He doesn't have to be online to lurk.I don't get why you keep pushing such an invalid argument.
And that goes for you as well.In post 176, WhyMafia wrote:he hasn't logged on since the game started.-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
Sounds like a scummy thing to say.In post 176, WhyMafia wrote: But idk I'm bad at mafia-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
Not sure if you're trolling, or just trying to be an a-hole.In post 174, Chronicle wrote:I highly doubt there was a substantial thought process behind that vote. bjc hasn't even posted anything yet.-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
In post 183, Chronicle wrote:Even if he was scum lurking he can only lurk for so long before he gets prodded. And that's an actual incentive for him to post.
I admit a huge flaw from my side, not taking prodding into consideration.In post 191, Chronicle wrote:Lurking does not mean you do not post entirely. You post minimally, enough to dodge prods.
Still, simply assuming that I didn't put any thought into my vote just doesn't help in any way, nor does it make me want to change my vote. In the aftermath it seems like you're at least trying to hear me out, as well as change my opinion.In post 182, Chronicle wrote:
I'm just being honest. It was a simple vote, there wasn't much behind it. Which is why I disliked it, because I think it's a real waste of a vote.In post 180, StealthyNoodle wrote:
Not sure if you're trolling, or just trying to be an a-hole.In post 174, Chronicle wrote:I highly doubt there was a substantial thought process behind that vote. bjc hasn't even posted anything yet.
Both are entirely possible.In post 181, Chronicle wrote:
Do you agree that he could also just not have logged in and your actions literally do nothing to encourage content from his slot because he possibly hasn't even checked the site?In post 178, StealthyNoodle wrote:So, do you agree that he might very well be lurking then? And do you deny that lurking is a pro-scum strat?
Lurkers won't reveal information about themselves, nor assist in identifying other players. They'd "shut up and lurk", as you phrased it, while we'd vote each other out. It might not be much of a strategy in itself, but it certainly doesn't help town.In post 190, TesXX wrote:
I definitely do. I'd be very interested to see somebody give me aIn post 178, StealthyNoodle wrote:And do you deny that lurking is a pro-scum strat?goodscum mindset involving lurking.
Scum1:Cool, we're scum! Okay, let's think of a strategy to get rid of town.
Scum2:Hmm... Oh, I know! Let's lurk!
Scum1:But why would you want to lurk? Won't you get replaced?
Scum2:Then I'll just post useless crap to avoid getting replaced!
Scum1:But if you have to post eventually then what's the purpose of lurking?
Scum2:JUST SHUT UP AND LURK-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
For clarity's sake, I presume this is what you're referring to:In post 194, WhyMafia wrote:79/89 - Says that he agrees with Nancy that the strat isn't good for new players, but proceeds to say by not supporting it, she has a higher possibility of scum.[...]You're a hypocrite. Stating that you agree with what she said, but those words make her a scum read to you makes no sense.In post 194, WhyMafia wrote:94 - Again, you agree with her ... what makes you vs her different? That she took a more direct stance?
To elaborate:In post 79, StealthyNoodle wrote:First game and I'm already overwhelmed. I do get that this strategy puts town in a better spot, but I agree with Nancy that it seems like a rather bad way to start out a game for newbies, and not much fun at all.In post 89, StealthyNoodle wrote:
She still wants to boycott a town-winning strategy. Even though I agree with her that the strat is more frightening than helpful in a newbie-game, I'd still say there's a higher probability she's scum.In post 82, Srceenplay wrote:Why vote Nancy if you feel bad about it?In post 94, StealthyNoodle wrote:
I have nothing to hide; my vote is solely based on supposed probability. If some other good theories come around, I'll surely listen.In post 90, Pine wrote:VOTE: StealthyNoodle
Trumping up the charges against nancy and gross exaggeration are pretty classic scum tactics.
I don't know much about the BP-strat, but I've come to understand that it's generally considered a strat that puts town in a considerably better position than scum. All over, it seems like a strat that would make it difficult for a newbscum to do much at all, thus I believe it would be wise not to include it in a newbie game.
I mentioned this here:
Concidering this is my first game online, it seems pretty ridiculous to go against the majority, refuse to claim, risk being lynched only to enforce my incomplete views. I shared my opinion on the matter, and that's that. If I wanted the use of this strat in newbie-games to cease, I'd probably discuss that in a non-game thread.In post 144, StealthyNoodle wrote:
I'm not really that eager to discuss this subject(and I know far too little about it), but doesn't this strat put a scummy newb in a really tough spot?In post 140, TesXX wrote:The mechanics play a big role in the game, and the newbiesshouldlearn to use them to their advantage.
I mean the main reason I dislike this strat, is because it seems to bring unbalance to the game.
I was also confronted by Nancy on this matter:In post 118, StealthyNoodle wrote:
I didn't go along with it, because I didn't want to end up in your position. Seems like I dug my own grave instead.In post 100, nancy wrote: If you agree that the strat should not be used, you have every reason not to go along with it.Correction: I should've been "I went along with it", not "I didn't go along with it"
Yes. Or it could be a great excuse to stop the strat from taking effect. Later on though, she did claim(in a way) that she wasn't BP.In post 194, WhyMafia wrote:It seems to me that she's braver than you and posted her opinion while you just want to look good to town.
Well, I explained this further up in the post, so.In post 194, WhyMafia wrote:Even tho she didn't cooperate, you should've stuck to what you believed in lol. While I don't necessarily consider her as pro town, you make her seem so much better. You could be bussing her idk.
Sure. And?In post 194, WhyMafia wrote:If the majority of the players said that this strat was bad and she was the only who argued it was good, I think you wouldn't have gone along with this strategy xd-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
I agree, we shouldn't quote more than necessary. Instead of quoting an entire post, you could just quote the part you're replying to. Imo. quotes do assist in clarifying what you're responding to. It also helps you avoid situations like this:In post 199, Srceenplay wrote: #3 Can everyone stop with the wall post of quotes. Pain in the ass for mobile guys like me. Especially when it's time to quote things.
Lastly, for curiosity's sake: Do you happen to be Scandinavian?In post 208, WhyMafia wrote:A) Who are you talking in regards to that post
UNVOTE: bjc0303-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
Not really, but your statement does come through as fishing for compassion. Something a wolf in sheep's clothing could do.In post 210, WhyMafia wrote:I was unaware mentioning emotions was scummy.-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
I still keep one noodle on nancy, for the same reasons as before.In post 216, Chronicle wrote:Noodle, who do you think could be scum?
I did have a laugh.Chronicle wrote:On a side note this flavour is hilarious lol-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
Hello hello.
Well, Pine just posted in two other threads. Either he's forgotten about this thread, or he's simply not responding on purpose.-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
They seem to have history. I don't think there's much more to it, but I don't know.In post 227, TesXX wrote:@nancy what is it that makes you townread Pine this much?-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
Fair enough.In post 232, Srceenplay wrote: Then why respond to someone else's question?-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
Appeal to Emotion.In post 237, WhyMafia wrote: Wtf does AtE even mean
-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
Well I'll try to shed some light on my suspicions then.In post 229, Chronicle wrote:
nancy is prob town though. Ignoring her setup spec stances(actually even if I took them into account), her approach to the game has been largely towny.In post 219, StealthyNoodle wrote:I still keep one noodle on nancy, for the same reasons as before.
Before that, am I the only one who'd prefer that nancydidn'tput teaching above playing to her win-con? Is there anyone who prefers that she's playing this way?
nancy, depending on the outcome, would you change your playstyle?
(let me add that I'm really glad you're eager to assist and explain. I simply do not want you to cast aside your win-con for that)-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
40 minutes earlier:In post 244, WhyMafia wrote:
ThanksIn post 241, nancy wrote: AtE = Appeal to Emotions.
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... reviationsYOU'RE WELCOME
-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
If nancy's town, I find it weird that she's decided to share that she'll cast aside her win-con for teaching others to play. In addition to being a minor rule break(or am I in the wrong here?), she's soley agreeing to lower the majority of players' chances of winning.In post 245, Chronicle wrote:
No, I would have preferred she just went along with it and save us the trouble, but I do not think that alone tells anything of her alignment.In post 239, StealthyNoodle wrote:Before that, am I the only one who'd prefer that nancy didn't put teaching above playing to her win-con? Is there anyone who prefers that she's playing this way?
If nancy's scum, she could simply be lying about casting aside win-con for teaching, merely using it as a coverup. She wouldn't be breaking any rules either(being a self-proclaimed SE, I suppose she'd do her best to respect the rules).-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
Also, care explain why you think this is obvious?In post 134, nancy wrote:Whatever. It's obvious I'm VT anyway from this whole stupid thing.-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
Can't we do this while playing a normal game, trying to obtain our win-cons at the same time? Do you mean we shouldn't be suspicious, because she's simply being helpful?In post 250, Chronicle wrote:Understand it from her POV. The whole point of a newbie is to learn how to play the game, getting a hang of forming reads, associations, learning lingo, and practicing skills like fake-claiming and ccing etc.
I also find it suspicious how she proclaims she's an SE, here to assist the IC in teaching! Then corrects herself six minutes later, saying that she just realized she's not "technically" SE, but will take the teacher-role anyways. I'd like to think it's very likely she already knew she wasn't an SE in this game.
I'm not referring to the BP-claim incident. I'm refering to her statement that she'll cast aside her win-con to teach:In post 250, Chronicle wrote:We don't play newbies with the intent of breaking the setup to find the most ideal strategyIn post 18, nancy wrote:It's my opinion that teaching should always take precedence over playing to my win-con in the newbie queue, so that will be my approach throughout the game.
This sounds like a highly unlikely scenario though. And again, it's more about the fact that she's proclaiming she'll avoid playing win-con, even when it's borderlineIn post 250, Chronicle wrote:because if things go well we would be playing a follow the tracker as early as page 1, and that's pointless.against the rules. Only practical reason I see, for it not being rulebreaking, is that she's scum pretending to cast aside win-con. Does my scumlean make sense?-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
Thanks for enlightening me on this. What made you realize that you weren't an SE in under six minutes?In post 253, nancy wrote:I'm an SE in the newbie queue, just forgot that I wasn't in an SE slot this game. I corrected it immediately.
VOTE: nancy-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
I gotta go to bed, but I'll add that I find you suspicious as well, Chronicle.
You're laying low, sharing few original ideas.
You seem to be asking others' for their opinions instead of providing/sharing your own; it would be a great way to spur heat between other players.
You seem very eager to disprove of me and nancy's "useless" vote. Maybe you actually just really disliked those votes "going to waste".
Or you could've taken advantage of an obvious bad vote, and attack it to appear as an engaged townie.
Your repetitive naked votes let's you lie low. You avoid any comeback, thus robbing us of your reaction.In post 177, Chronicle wrote:Exactly why I can't justify a vote on bjc.
And you do seem to put a lot of effort in defending nancy, concidering you were among the first ones to take note of her claim-refusal.In post 215, Chronicle wrote:I'm going to be doing naked votes often, I'm beginning to like them.In post 85, Chronicle wrote:
Refusing to claim even though it's a pro-town strat?In post 17, nancy wrote:I do not like this strat at all, I think it's a bad way to teach newbies to play and I refuse to claim either way.-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
In post 251, StealthyNoodle wrote:
Also, care explain why you think this is obvious?In post 134, nancy wrote:Whatever. It's obvious I'm VT anyway from this whole stupid thing.
I'd like to hear nancy's response to these two questions first. Concidering she's made 6 posts in other threads between then and now, I'd say it's likely she's dodging the questions.In post 255, StealthyNoodle wrote:
Thanks for enlightening me on this. What made you realize that you weren't an SE in under six minutes?In post 253, nancy wrote:I'm an SE in the newbie queue, just forgot that I wasn't in an SE slot this game. I corrected it immediately.
In the case sheIn post 264, TesXX wrote:
What's so suspicious about that?In post 254, StealthyNoodle wrote: I also find it suspicious how she proclaims she's an SE, here to assist the IC in teaching! Then corrects herself six minutes later, saying that she just realized she's not "technically" SE, but will take the teacher-role anyways. I'd like to think it's very likely she already knew she wasn't an SE in this game.didn't realizeshe wasn't SE:
There must've been something made her realize she wasn't, within the time span of 6 minutes(the time between her posts),whilefocusing on a response for you:
In the case she alreadyIn post 20, nancy wrote:Actually I just realized I'm not technically an SE lol. But yes, the above still applies!
I have read your explanations and I have seen the strategy in play and I think it's a bad way to teach newbies to play. I do not want this to be a topic of discussion when we should be focusing on RVS so please drop it.was awareshe wasn't SE:
She could use this as an excuse for feeling obliged to teach us about the game, rather than focusing on her win-con. She never had to mention this, but the fact that she does "justifies" her reason to not claim anything.
Had to check, and it looks like she applied as an SE. I might be firing shots in the dark here, but shouldn't she be placed as SE in another game then, instead of taking up new-player spot here? Is this because there's a lack of new players?-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
Then I suppose you were trying to provoke some kind of reaction here:In post 259, Chronicle wrote:I have never ran away from explaining my thoughts, if you ask I will deliver, unless there is something I want to try.
Or would you like expand on this vote, and the reason you didn't add anything when WhyMafia asked?In post 215, Chronicle wrote:
I'm going to be doing naked votes often, I'm beginning to like them.In post 205, WhyMafia wrote:@chronicle it was not a good idea to vote me and just leave me hanging. You just simply voted me and left. Do you have anything to add?
Well, I think you're putting a lot of effort into it, concidering she should be fine defending herself as town.In post 260, Chronicle wrote:Also because I thought she could be town.
Then again, as a town-player I agree it's only fair to defend others who one believes to be townies.
I'll agree to that!In post 261, Chronicle wrote:I also like to stubbornly think I'm right.-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
Thanks. Not sure about Tes yet.In post 276, Loopdan wrote:Tes and noodle are screaming town to me.-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
Hello CogMachine.
Allright, thanks for clarifying.In post 274, TesXX wrote:SEs can replace into as many games as the want I think. She took up a new player spot in pregame since that player didn't confirm their role
Why vote Pine? He just got prodded.In post 275, Loopdan wrote:VOTE: Pine-
-
StealthyNoodle
-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
Still, for what reason? He's made 5 game-related posts, and been inactive till the point where he got prodded as an IC. He'll possibly be replaced soon, and since he got prodded I suppose he's not lurking either.In post 283, Srceenplay wrote:It's easier to lynch someone when they are not around to defend themselves.
Is being prodded in any way a scum-strat for making lurking more believable?-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
But why in the world would you say that you'd like to lynch someone who's unable to defend themselves??In post 283, Srceenplay wrote: It's easier to lynch someone when they are not around to defend themselves.
As he hasn't done anything to make himself suspicious, there's like a 75% chance of being townie. To be honest, after being prodded, I'd say his chances of being a townie are even higher.
And we're not playing to ease the burdens of the mod.
For what reason would IC get lynched anyways?
I prefer we stick to arguments and let players put up a defense.-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
In post 289, Srceenplay wrote:Why does being prodded give a higher chance of being town?
He's an IC. He'll likely try to follow the rules. I suspected he was lurking earlier on, but it seems he has forgotten about this game. Also, if he's not responding in 24 hours from when he got the prod, he'll be replaced.MafiaWiki wrote:A prod is a Private Message sent from the moderator to a player who has fallen afoul of the moderator's set activity rules.
I doubt being prodded can be considered covering up for lurking, but I don't know.
Would you say there's a lower chance for him being town? In that case, why?-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
What are suggesting? That lynching an active player will be mislynch by default? That it doesn't matter if we lynch Pine, even though he's town? I don't get your logic.In post 290, Srceenplay wrote:Better than a possible mislynch of an active town. Can you agree with that?
I'm starting to see Loopdan's multipurpose.-
-
StealthyNoodle
-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
Oh, I agree. I was referring to his argument:In post 292, TesXX wrote:In post 286, Srceenplay wrote:IC will get lynched later anyway.-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
Okkay
In post 314, nancy wrote:an objectively obvscum [...] and if I have the chance to royally fuck over a newbie like I do right now with Noodle I'm not going to because it won't be fun for him or anyone else.I'd like to see you try!Stop pitying me, and give me your best shot. If I'm obvscum it shouldn't be hard at all. We all got into the game prepared to be lynched at first day. I won't be bitter, and I doubt the others will be either. Being an semi-experienced player, you know this - and tbh you're just making yourself more suspicious.-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
nancy's simply stating that becauseIn post 320, CogMachine wrote:nancy
Ok, you're town. (Not just for this post, but this sticks out to me as a post no mafia would make)In post 60, nancy wrote:
Look at this thread for evidence. RVS has been stilted by the philosophical differences in your insistence that people claim and my refusal to claim. Discussing theory at this point is not at all conducive to scumhunting, which is what we should be doing and which is what RVS is designed to facilitate.In post 57, TesXX wrote:@nancy how does claiming BP or not BP f up RVS?shehad another philosophy than the rest(and therefore refused to vote), the game was stalled.
is this your strongest townread of her?
I don't think it's much more than a simple vote, and his logic might be that he'd rather keep someone active, that he believes to be townish.In post 320, CogMachine wrote:: Calling you out!Srceenplay
This is a mafia argument. Period. It sets up "well at least we killed a lurker!" and "No one can be blamed".In post 290, Srceenplay wrote:
Yes.In post 288, StealthyNoodle wrote:You're aware that lynching means you kill them of, right? This whole thing could just be a misunderstanding.
Let's kill him.
Better than a possible mislynch of an active town. Can you agree with that?
*noodles into hiding*
-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
If you'd be inactive for 72 hours, you'd probably get replaced by someone like this:In post 304, TesXX wrote:
It's just L eating a banana.In post 302, WhyMafia wrote:Tes your profile pic gives me nightmares
Spoiler:-
-
StealthyNoodle
-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
hahah *applauds*In post 0, MiniDeathStar wrote:The psychological pressure of the Escape Room seemed to have taken its toll on bjc0303, who
had been staring at the noose for hours and not uttering a single word.-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
I'd kill nancy I guess? I feel like I'm pushing pretty hard on her after all, so it's probably no surprise. This might also sound pretty arrogant and scummy, butIn post 354, WhyMafia wrote:If you had to day kill someone right now, who would it be?
If you had a doctor protection, who would you protect (and you can't self heal)worstcase scenario we kill of a VT(she claimed she was one) and not a Power Role. Unless she lied to protect her PR, of course.
If we lynched a townie, I'd protect the least scummy person among those who didn't vote for the townie.
If we lynched a scum, I'd probably protect the most towny person among the lynchers.
It's really dependent on the outcome of day 1 though.
I'm aware, and it's worrying. You're more active than others here, and I've read that scum in general tend to be more quiet.In post 366, nancy wrote:[...]scum are able to blend in and get away with things far easier[...]
Still you've dodged our questions several times, so I'll ask again:
How did you come to the conclusion I'm obvious scum?
What made you say that your VT-role was obvious, so early in the game?-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
I'd really, really like to hear your reasons for asking this.In post 354, WhyMafia wrote:If you had a doctor protection, who would you protect-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
Wouldn't asking us our strongest townread have the same effect?In post 376, WhyMafia wrote:The doc prot shows how much you think somebody is town.
I guess it was a bad plan tho :/
Asking us who we'd protect as docs, sounds like something scum would ask to avoid a blocked kill.
Then again, you still read town to me. So does Srceenplay.-
-
StealthyNoodle Goon
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 352
- Joined: March 13, 2017
-
-
-