Newbie 1815: Prisons [Endgame]

[NotTheRealPaul]

VOTE: osuka

Can we break the setup? pleeeease?

[NotTheRealPaul]

scum come quickhammer

[NotTheRealPaul]

osuka im stalking u

[NotTheRealPaul]

U swallow

VOTE: osuka

[NotTheRealPaul]

i didn tplan past "you swallow" shit.

hammer oduka b4 i lose this roast thingy

[NotTheRealPaul]

Lol u mean

FOS: NTRP

[NotTheRealPaul]

LOL

might sig that

[NotTheRealPaul]

why cant the others have no life so this wouldnt just be me and osuka talking

[NotTheRealPaul]

did i do it right?

[NotTheRealPaul]

attempt 2

[NotTheRealPaul]

Ya except no one is posting so maf are gonna get a free win so we get out of RVS.

btw madhatters (I think) ur vote wasnt bolded so it wont count.

You should move it to isuka though so we can scare him with L-1

[NotTheRealPaul]

ebwop (edit by way of post)so maf are gonna get a free win because we wont get out of RVS*

I phone pist 99% of time so expect lots of crappy english from me

[NotTheRealPaul]

VOTE: NotTheRealPaul kinda shifty

whats so shifty about me?

[NotTheRealPaul]

btw im at l-1 so uh. no quixkhammer plz and thank u

[NotTheRealPaul]

im not.....i wanted to get out of rvs so i figured we could get a reaction if we pressured there

ftr i have a slight townlean on osuka but cant discuss why bcuz rules

[NotTheRealPaul]

No you're not, you're at l-3

And why would you wanna put me at l-1

we were both wrong lmao. im l-2. speaking of which why are alisae's vc's so faint. maybe i need to switch my color scheme dang.

i wanna PRESSURE YOU. CAN YOU FEEL THE PRESSURE. THE L-2 PRESSURE.

[NotTheRealPaul]

fine whatevs.

VOTE: Jae

Not BP

lets break the fucking game yaaaaaaaaaa

[NotTheRealPaul]

claim BP/not BP or I will lynch u

[NotTheRealPaul]

refusing to cooperate is anti town.

[NotTheRealPaul]

where is everybody

[NotTheRealPaul]

I dont

[NotTheRealPaul]

wait seriously. im gonna forget to put it back in. SOMEONE REMIND MENPIST GAME.

why tf would i have scumreads its RVS

[NotTheRealPaul]

ebwop ME POST GAME*

[NotTheRealPaul]

fixed it i think

btw jae u got scumreads?

[NotTheRealPaul]

attempt 2

quadruple post no shame

[NotTheRealPaul]

what we r out of rvs

sunce when. everyone hasnt even posted yet i think

[NotTheRealPaul]

why do ppl sign up if they dont wanna pkay

[NotTheRealPaul]

are the votes on me serious?

[NotTheRealPaul]

VOTE: NotTheRealPaul kinda shifty

lets talk about how shitty this vote is

[NotTheRealPaul]

Osuka has seemed pretty town to me, and you've seemed pretty scummy, icibalus. I sense you and Ciara ate scum.

i also wanna know where madtatters is getting this.

in our little bit of shitposting where did he get me as shifty and u as town

[NotTheRealPaul]

BP talk is a really ez way to get towncred.

that craps NAI

tbh im not really a newbie but since theyre lettin us do a third game in newbie queue i figured might as well since theyre low on newbies.

i like barely qualify for se rn.

[NotTheRealPaul]

and i voted jae bcuz he told me to move my vote.

like the only other wagons were a tr and me and so why tf would i vote there. might as well pressure someone semi acive (though not rlly since im only vote) instead of one of the lurkers

although now since no one else joined me might as well vote my scumread

VOTE: madtatters

[NotTheRealPaul]

and tbh i dont think bp claim quite BREAKS the setup. it can help but its not a big enough advantage that town is gonna autowin.

so pushing to "break the setup" should really be NAI. esp bcuz not breaking the setup would be anti-town, i dont see any scum opposing it really.

[NotTheRealPaul]

who are u talking too?

[NotTheRealPaul]

VOTE: yakko

osuka cote him with mw. You too Ichi.

Content or a lynch

[NotTheRealPaul]

not quite policy.

its presuure. put em at l-1 and force them to make content or hammer

letting them get away with this crap is unnacceptable.

tbh though im also down to lynch madtatters

[NotTheRealPaul]

VOTE: tatters

lets do this

[NotTheRealPaul]

a lynch can reveal a lot of info.

plus how people react to being voted shows a lot

if we just talk and dont lynch maf can night kill us 1 by 1

do u come from another site that doesnt lynch day 1

[NotTheRealPaul]

the biggest problem is the inactivity. if we dont start discussing reads and such. btw man with a plan did u claim bp/not bp? if so u need to do so. everyone does. also if u have any townreads (people u think are town) or scumreads (people u think are scum/mafia) share them and why. its understandable to have weak reads right now or even nullreads thougb

im kinda dissapointed in the IC/SEs for not trying to push the activity

Although Jae atleast has been engaging and asking questions when he does post

[NotTheRealPaul]

lol like we need a vc. nothings fucking happening

[NotTheRealPaul]

ur vote on me was shit

u never explained why i was shifty or why osuka was town. u didnt explain shit.

i dont wanna lynch u for inactovity i wanna lynch u because ur not explaining the vote and avoiding the bp claim which is anti-town

inactiviy reads are generally shit because rl is a thing.

id love to fucking get a read on someone but no one is fucking posting

[NotTheRealPaul]

also id like to say if me and oauka are the scum team town is fucked because we are by far the most active players and only ones pushing anything

[NotTheRealPaul]

osuka thoughts on tatters reaction?

[NotTheRealPaul]

lol

[NotTheRealPaul]

Tatters is coming off as town to me.

UNVOTE: for now

[NotTheRealPaul]

Vote: Man with a Plan

is this the scumread u were talking about?

[NotTheRealPaul]

yup. the "how dare u scumread me" tone seems like a newbtown thing to do.

who hasnt answered bp question btw?

and yaklo is almost conftown.

[NotTheRealPaul]

VOTE: mwap

i agree with u on that jae.

i dont like ici either 147 gives me bad feelings as well. i'll talk more about it later as its 3am and km tryna do some apush hw but Ici is giving me bad vibes.

[NotTheRealPaul]

also hi ciara!

@tatters osuka voted u because he said u were scummy AND inactive. Idk if anyone clarified that. Ur inactovity wasnt the entire reason.

[NotTheRealPaul]

tbh im kinda mindmelding with jae rn.

although idk about osuka's reverse on tatters. very go with the flow type thing.

jae whatvha think?

[NotTheRealPaul]

fair enough i may have misread.

gonna be kinda inactive rest of day cuz back to school stuff. not that anyone will really notice during this game lol

[NotTheRealPaul]

@jae i only played for a but b4 i replaced out. didnt even read entire game/keep up with it so my experience isnt realky much.

i dont like osuka shifting with the tide but it doesnt seem like scum!osuka from before. im townleaning him atm but thats open to change.

[NotTheRealPaul]

tbh im a little worried but what to do at this point. half the playerlist hasnt posted relevant content.

might as well work with the only active players to push something.

[NotTheRealPaul]

id love to talk but rl is getting in the way. i dont have time atm to bounce thoughts as i have a meeting for back to school related stuff in a few min.

if i finish summer assignments by tommorrow evening i can probably talk then, but i wont have much time to sit and talk until tommorrow evening at earliesy.

if u dont mind the discussion being a little choppy, i dont mind discussing tho but i sssumed u wanted realtime.

that said i mostly agree with ur readlist. Althought what about yalkko puts him so high on the list? i dont really have much if a read on him rn. I wasnt really a fan of his dp vote tbh.

[NotTheRealPaul]

*facepalm*

i forgot lmao

[NotTheRealPaul]

Ive seen newbscum try to pull off the nolynch D1.

Its kinda like, oh if I say Im against mislynching and since we have no info I dont wanna lynch I'll get townie points if that makes sense.

Sice they dont realize that D1 lynches are really necessary with long cuycles so we get dome info on alignment.

[NotTheRealPaul]

@Jae what do u think if the doctor pepper vote on me?

TBH it actually did kinda make sense and I can see where he is coming from. I kinda townlean him for it.

[NotTheRealPaul]

@jae it was offsite

he tried to get towncred by starting off by saying he didnt understand the point of voting/lynching at the start of game as town has no info and he wasnt gonna vote/wanted a nolynch

@mod VLA until August 12

[NotTheRealPaul]

I've been reading through the past posts, trying to figure out why people are voting for Mwap. I don't know if it is just that I'm not good at reading people or there's some underlying factor. It seems that in the past 24-36 hours or so, Mwap hasn't offered the slightest bit of reaction that he's already 2 away from being lynched. IDK if it's irl reasons, but if not, I find it a bit weird that he hasn't. Unless I didn't pay enough attention to his postings after you guys voted. Can someone explain why they want him lynched? (My WiFi is still down, using mobile data fn)

It seems like he is reading but he is avoiding comments on what is actually happening. He is avoiding giving content like reads, or just general thoughts on any of the interactions that have occurred.

[NotTheRealPaul]

more votes on mwap. looks like best wagon rn. i dont mind going for dp either.

7 days left should probably start consolidating for wagon so we have time to switch in case something happens and lynch isnt deadline

[NotTheRealPaul]

aame but ici slot is a lot more scummy.

rn id go mwap > ici slot > dp

as far as priority that is.

[NotTheRealPaul]

aphix are u scum?

[NotTheRealPaul]

Where do u see jae and tatters as scum together? I dont get that too much.

DP i'm with u on townblocs. i think theyre bad and can be the downfall of town when theyre not mod-confirmed town blocs like some sorta mason stuff/cop invests or something.

[NotTheRealPaul]

alright aphix i like u more than ici.

idk about scum!jae. like only reason to tr him tn imo is like paranoia. ive been agreeing with him on reads almost all the time, but maybr because nothing really controversial has happened

@dp only two pll are hard tring me as far as i know. tatters, aphix, mwap, and ciara arent.

actually nvm i think ciara trs me.

but stiill only half the game tring me shouldnt dissuade u of ur sr on me.

[NotTheRealPaul]

if ur not voing mwap why?

give me pne good fucking reason he is town

[NotTheRealPaul]

why the fuck is anyone not voting mwap?

[NotTheRealPaul]

Damn. My wifi is back, finally. It's still day? Thought we'd be going night by now so I can at least get a kill (if my teammate agrees of course).

is this fucking serious?

someone fucking vote this. i swear to god

[NotTheRealPaul]

Welp, this game is going to be another shit show, and that right there is a good indicator I'm not going to be playing with MWAP again.

scumclaim 2? idk maybe its reachy but felt like a thing partner would say bcuz idk why town really posts this

*shrug*

[NotTheRealPaul]

everyones next post should include
VOTE: MWAP

[NotTheRealPaul]

why the fuck does he flip town? do u think he intentionally being a little shit to get mislynched?

[NotTheRealPaul]

If you think his post is alignment indicative I have a bridge to sell you.

"shitty game, sad day" I agree with - but it's gamethrowing either way and the last time I saw a scumcrumb of that caliber, they flipped scum. it's fucked but what can you do

why the fuck does he flip town? do u think he intentionally being a little shit to get mislynched?

at this point what can you do? he's either gamethrowing town or gamethrowing scum, and in either case i'm fine with getting him lynched

This^^

Either way this slot needs to go

[NotTheRealPaul]

At worst we lynch a townie who conteributes zero.

Like no one else is super scummy at this point in game and there isnt really a better lynch

[NotTheRealPaul]

Damn. My wifi is back, finally. It's still day? Thought we'd be going night by now so I can at least get a kill (if my teammate agrees of course).

in this day and age, i thought everyone would have access to cell phone data and/or a library

is that all ur gonna say? like. just a comment on his wifi access? did u not read the entire post?

wtf is this game

pedit: *facepalm*

[NotTheRealPaul]

bruh are u even gonna play the game? like u havent commented on anything thats happened? why did u sign up?

@mwap

[NotTheRealPaul]

what the fuck

this game makes me mad

VOTE: madtatters

pedit: lmao timing

[NotTheRealPaul]

skitters i need u to be town because ur a great town.

[NotTheRealPaul]

btw osuka if ur town we should hydra after this game bcuz i have a feeling it would be fun

[NotTheRealPaul]

multi quote isnt working. pretend i quoted [p] 270 [/p] and [p] 291 [/p]

VOTE: aphix

[NotTheRealPaul]

fuxk i cant use tags

270 and 291

[NotTheRealPaul]

sorry i failed pist links lol.

i forgot u had to wrote post

i didnt like it.

u went from, this isnt AI, with a condescending tone that seemed against the lynch to "lets policy lynch this". like idk i dont get the thought process

[NotTheRealPaul]

awwww. ur wrong already.

@aphix dont dodge. answer. like i dont get why u vote when u seemed against it one post earlier. like i get mwap hadnt helped himself with his posting but jae wasnt for it either so u werent alone in not voting. me and osuka were only two pushing it.

[NotTheRealPaul]

I know that Skitter is almost certainly conftow but your reads and reasoning are way off

[NotTheRealPaul]

meta = shit

my meta changes based off players. with this game i'll prob be more active than normal and more aggressive than normal but really depends on how skitters plays.

essentially if there are a lot of strong players i stay in the back and mostly sheep but i get more aggressive if there arent many strong players. i prefer the former over the latter as it ends better.

[NotTheRealPaul]

is it me or when i click post links from skitters post it takes me to page one.

is this a phoneposting glitch?

[NotTheRealPaul]

I'll read through skitter's points regarding other players properly later, but at the moment it looks like an awful lot of reaching and misreading (whether intentional or not).

ya if not for the bp claim id sr the slot.

idk why no read on jae bcuz imo he has made decent content when he has been on, and he was more active than mist behind osuka and me

[NotTheRealPaul]

fearless 5 posts in a row.

not much too respond to in skitters points. i mean, seems she thinks im not genuine or some gut feeling? i mean sorry ur gut is off?

[NotTheRealPaul]

52 was me tryna push us out of rvs by piling some votes onto osuka to try to get somewhere. like if u keep all ur voted all over the place u wont really go anywhere.

72 i voted jae cuz he said to vote someone else since i tred osuka. so i voted hom cuz i didnt tr him bcuz 1. i was feeling kinda sassy (does that make sense?) 2. wanted to see if he'd react someway

121 madtatters was ignoring bp claim which is antitown. it was mostly to get him to cooperate.

263 already knew it was kinda reachy thus why i said it might be reachy when i made the post. i dont see how this is a valid point because i acknowledged it might be reachy. i do this a lot and ik ive done stuff where i ask others about an idea that popped up knowing it might be reachy.

[NotTheRealPaul]

Alright aphix I went back and reread.

u went from super against a MWAP lynh to fine with it.

In between MWAP had a retarded argument with osuka over rl shit and jae even supported u while dp said it was a clear policy lynch.

HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT CHANGE UR MIND.

voting MWAP for not producing content at that point is shitty. like if u didnt like his lack of content and that was why he becme a policy lynch to u then why didnt u vote him earlier with us? like ntohing really changed in his posts (contentwise they were still zero) so i dont see why he is now a policy lynch.

past that, jae even supported u, and while dp didnt, he wasnt exactly a strong force pushing for it.

like wtf am i not seeing. there is nothing in there that shoulda changed ur firm anti-lynch stance on MWAP. like his behavior didnt change and u even had ppl agreeing with u.

[NotTheRealPaul]

lol

two and a half all with different playstyles and u know my meta

why would i be paranoid? ur predecessor claimed bp.

oh god skitters start making sense plz

not to mention why do u think i cant tell ur meta based off our time toegther. cant talk about ongoing games but im pretty sure i could tell.

id sr u because ur reads are C. R. A. P.

atleast on me and jae (ya ik u have no read u should imo)

also interacting with u. im not being as nice *shrug* . and i dont sr u i think ur reads are bad (that is their reasoning) and i would had ur slot not claimed bp.

[NotTheRealPaul]

i hardwaved because the stuff on me is baaaaad and gut based and the other bit is like 2/3 still rvs

like what the fuxk u want me to respond to. oh ur gut thinks im off? sorry? im town. like there isnt anything to say there. i responded to rest as well.

[NotTheRealPaul]

why does it say lynch nexts to aphix? im only one voting him....

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[NotTheRealPaul]

yup dont respond to my posts just say gut and wierd and ongus while admitting u dont know what my normal is

[NotTheRealPaul]

lolololol

gonna be a fun game



stop refusing to explain. i even went and read back for u and im still confused. pretedn im an idot. heck u dont even have to pretend, just explain what about the in between posts changed ur mind. like i dont see whats so hard.

[NotTheRealPaul]

and im not pushing u. yet. xD

if i was pushing i might ask osuka to vote. im just tryna force u to explain ur thoughts. i hoped my vote would pressure u. i mean rn i think ur vote on MWAP was the crappiest with madtatters being a close second. DP's wasnt good but its a far third.

if i were guessing scum u'd two are at top of my list for ur votes.idk what to make of jae staying off yet. im not a fan of it but it could jut be town disagreeing with the lynch even though i dont get why.

[NotTheRealPaul]

oh my. can u please just answer.

idrc if others pressure u at this point. like if i wanted u pressured id ask for pressure. ive asked others for pressure on other slots numerous times, im not shy about it. but go ahead and tell me want town!me should be doing so post game we can have laugh about how wrong u are.

i agree with u on jae a bit. like i see where u are coming from up until the part about skitters nullread. like i think skitters should have some read because i think had made content he just hasnt been particularly aggressive so he should be ar minimum leantown/scum at this point. personally i hate being paranoid so im rolling with town!jae atm but im open to that changing.

id really like to know why u changed on mwap rn. like oretending i didnt ask wont make me go away.

[NotTheRealPaul]

my phones dying which is a shame because i was enjoying this. wont be able to reply for an hour or more. wont really change the pace of the game since only like 2-3 ppl are posting rn but just so u know and arent wondering where i went

[NotTheRealPaul]

i never said i sred u. i said i would IF u hadnt claimed bp. i said ur play was scummy not that u were scum. gawd skitters

1. ur maybe good with others but ur dead wrong here. my meta changes. if ur areogant enough to tell me what my meta is off two games where i played differently in both odk what to tell u.

2. already addressed above.

3. it is bcuz our votes were different. did u read or are u just tryna discredit me because i said ur reads are bad. if u need me to explain again: i dont like aphix's vote because a page earlier he seemed firmly against an MWAP lynch and then boom with no change in MWAP's behavior and nothing that imo couldve changed his mind he votes him. heck he even said he wouldnt vote MWAP and one page later he does and i dont get why.

I can describe my thoughts about madtatters. Jae already said a bit about dp's vote and i kinda agree. but looking back idk. tbh its kinda wierd jae didnt say the same thing to me bcuz mine was hella similar. so dp's vote isnt too bad rn.

madtatters quoted a pist by osuka that "changed" his mind but it didnt really add up to me based off the content of osuka's post. i'll get into ot more when im done with hw.

@aphix answer me im not going away.

pedit: i'll agree to disagree. im glad u find it concerning atleast. thats something we can both kinda agree on.

[NotTheRealPaul]

holy fuck english is hard. sorry if my spelling messes u up im bad at it. i'll clarify if anything doesnt make sense lol.

[NotTheRealPaul]

just realized i misunderstood the point about the valid reasoning.

lol.

the thing was with those votes it wasnt immediate. it felt like town tryna distance from wagon a lot because of the way they voted and "reasons". like MWAP was really against and i dont get why he changed. like he had support in that regard with jae. madtatters i just dont follow the thought process behind him not commenting on the scummy part to seeing osuka's pist and agreeing with it -and voting. like it just didnt add up the way he went from ignoring to sure.

pedit: not much that i could see contentwise. had a dumb argument with osuka but still this non content thing. like none of it was game related and he seemed to be misninterpreting things. yes he got angry but content wise he provided nothing and was keeping with useless townie.

u know it would be a lot easier if u just explained to me what happened and pointed to posts. im starting to think im just missing something and am too blind to see it so help me out here.

[NotTheRealPaul]

ebwop aphix was really against*

[NotTheRealPaul]

incoming skitters wallpost

[NotTheRealPaul]

also bye for a few hours. i must do my hw.

[NotTheRealPaul]

rip wallpost.

1. ur reasoning is bad. ur initial catchup ur read of me was half "this pings me" and then oit of the other half there was stuff from friggin rvs and me tsemi shitposting.

2. its because ur wrong right now. literally why would u argue with me whther u can meeta me when ur meta'ing me and im telling u r wrong. also i dont doubt ur ability to meta i just dont think we have enough experience together. like maybe if we had played 4-5 games together id think u can meta me bcuz imo my town game really varies on the playerbase/amount of town leader types, specifically my aggression.

3. i already said why i think the votes are bad. atleast those specifically. least i tried; english is haaard.

4. skipping for now bcuz i dont wanna spend too much time on dis rn. remind me friday evening.

5. agree to dosagree with whether u should have a read on jae. we both find it concerning/wierd that u have no read on jae so we agree there. like u think its wowrd u have no read and so do i because i think there is enough to read him on. hope that makes sense.

6. i didnt pick up on that. aphix if thats it i can kinda see that. to me it looked like scum jumping on wagon. like sorry if im being dense but i dont think aphix explicitly said that/if there was an implication i didnt get it. aphix confirm that and i'll happily apologiize

like ik im gonna sound like a dick but i eanna get mled rn just to show skitters cant meta me yet. but my pettiness must wait. i need others to get on and restore my hope in this town.

[NotTheRealPaul]

also this is a newbie game and that would set a bad example. still if it wasnt a newbie game and it was D1 i might

[NotTheRealPaul]

lack of counterwagon, speed of a wagon, etc dont make it bad

bad reasoning makes a bad wagon imo. aphix coulda dodged this shit had he answered first time i asked but now its l-1 and has yet to answer.

[NotTheRealPaul]

couldnt u have fixed my spelling?

jk jk lol

[NotTheRealPaul]

Can we stop with the associative tells until we actually lynch scum? Associative tells without a redflip hinge on assumptions we have very limited information on

^^^*^

if i missed it i'll go back and look. ur being voted bcuz u dodged an easy ass question multiple times. i dont see why town ever does that.

im not pushing aphix for voting, it was how he did so that i dont understand.

im leaning newbtown on tatters because i see his logic common to newer ppl. that said its still bad logic behind reads.

[NotTheRealPaul]

holy fuck im handwaving all the "pinging" me shit. the one decent thing u had in catchup was the MWAP wagon push part and even thats not that good imo.

Also while i agree ur a good town u and i both know that good town can be dead wrong. ur dead fucking wrong on me.

i think tone reads are bad so i dont really think its a good point.idk how to respond other than sorry ur wrong...

UNVOTE:

gonna reconsider things.

inb4 i get sred for leaving the wagon

[NotTheRealPaul]

oh and i need to explain why right? actually dunno what to say to mwap comment. i thought he legit scumslipped and a comment like that should never really be left alone. like any kind of comment like that from scum or town should be lynched. i didnt see any town motivation for it so i pushed for a wagon there

[NotTheRealPaul]

i mean when u see scum ur supposed to rally town to lynch em right? like as far as ik thats good play...

oh and yes lets talk.

also bcuz i think ive been a dick sorry skitters. i get rlly annoyed when ppl say "this is pinging me" multiple timesz. like once or twice i find ok but after that it gets annoying when its all from ione person. so i got a bit annoyed and was probably a dick so sawry.

i'll wxplain madtatters vote stuff tmmrrow i have to stufy rn. peeeeace

[NotTheRealPaul]

damn aphix thats so eloquent and verbose

[NotTheRealPaul]

swconded^^

tbh skitters i only think ur read of me is bad. i didnt read the rest.

also i might respond to the wall. i might ignore it too. i'll try to get to it though. no promises because i gotta prep for dar ACT this weekend

[NotTheRealPaul]

Seeing as Aphix only has 1 to lynch, I'm not really as eager to have them lynched. For now, I just want to see if there are any other players jumping out at me as scum (particularly JaeReed, DP, and Ciara). Maybe I'll vote for Aphix in the future, but I want to see if there are any more people who are jumping out to me as scum, maybe even my townreads. I'd rather kill scum correctly to avoid a mislynch, than go into Night 2 because we lynched town about a week into D2 and risk town getting killed by scum in the night.

Just for now
UNVOTE:

i kinda wanna push this but idk because i kinda understand it.

idk the wording is wierd and im not sure newbtown.

i feel like tatters just swings with his trs. im not sure. skitters whatcha think?

[NotTheRealPaul]

skitters acting normal good.

gonna be honest i dont wanna look at ur previous wall. if u desperately need a reply i will but *shrug*

i only read ur read of me and saw u didnt have a read of jae. so only didnt like those two. tatters is worrying me rn cuz idk if he is newbtwon anymore. i think he might be just following his trs tho and my unvote triggered his.

my sr was bcuz i didnt get his change of mind on mwap (now i doooo). then he just kept saying it was obvious when i didnt fucking see it so i thought he was avoiding my question. i think he is tunnelling me a bit, but he is like null for me rn. i remember liking his content b4 mwap's "slip", but ici was really bad. i need to reread this slot.

osuka is town for me. i generally agree with thwir content, and this doesnt remind me of the little bit of his scumgame so that helps.

jae is like leantown. where did he go is my real question rn.

ur conftown obviously.

dp is like gut scum for me whixh i hate bcuz i hate gutreads. need to reread this slot too bcuz something feels off but i cant quite verbalize it. may just be the shorter posts bcuz ik i tend to tr walls.

think thats everyone.

also thabks! back to stufying!...yay?! *cries*

[NotTheRealPaul]

are you scum?

[NotTheRealPaul]

i didnt think he was stupid town D1, i thought he newb scumslipped. in hindsight he is just stupid town.

jae is leantown because he was the only one who gave a shit the first few days besides me and osuka

not pushing cuz irl. got slammed with hw this weekend so trtna focus on that. pushing someone here would require some dedication and me checking into this a bit more so i can actually engage and make thoughts and think of questions and shit. pretty mych dont have time to engage with someone as the questioner. i can answer questions though bcuz ik what i was/am thinking.

already said i dont sr u.like go back to ur initial read of me, and 2 things are rvs shitpists, another 2-3 is "pinging u", then there id a toneread, and lastly one thing that is reachy BUT i literally said its probably reachy in the post. Do u see how i think thats crapoy? Like do u?

[NotTheRealPaul]

skitters u ignored the why. i literally outlined why ur read of me was bad. if ur read of me was based of decent stuff then mebbe but i just pointed out why i think it was so bad and u ignored that part.

as far as har ik its not great reason to tr himi its why he is a fucking town lean not a solid town. it wasnt even so much he gave a shit but he was asking questions and tryna get ppl to do stuff and i liked it. rn im waiting for him to actually do shit and convince me he is town.

[NotTheRealPaul]

*shrug*

i'll get the last laugh when i flip lol

[NotTheRealPaul]

@jae thoughts on the skitters/me/aphix interactions? what exactly about aphix makes it look like he is trying to gamesolve? he avoided my question for awhile and has been tunneling me ever seince skitter decided to start pushing me.

what are ur thoughts on tatters behavior?

[NotTheRealPaul]

im feeling a bit under the weather rn. ya ik timing is shit.. if u think im scum tryna get out of skitters' trap ur a dick.

skitters for the last fucking time the sr is not because i disagree with u on reads. it fucking isnt. its cuz ur reasoning for the read on me was terrible. like if i actually thought ur reasoning was ddecent i wouldnt have the "sr". like ive tred ppl who sr me in the past, i dont fuxking omgus everyone who srs me. i'll look at the d2 sr stuff later.

[NotTheRealPaul]

sorry im frustrated and im probably gonna sound like a dick. apologies in advance lol.

[NotTheRealPaul]

okay i wanna know something. if someone srs u and ur town are u supposed to not discredit them? like am i supposed to prop u up so that i get lynched? like should i say ur reads are good? like dafuq do u want?

as far as jae, i thought u should have a read on him. he has done stuff that is AI. he has given thoughts on things. i leaned town because his questions (which i thought was implied) seemed to be gamesolving. he seemed to be trying to understand people's reasoning so he could get a read of them.

okay thats all i wanna read rn. bbl

[NotTheRealPaul]

VOTE: Paul

This is scum, unfortunately. Sorry Paul

You don't sound so apologetic

. Not really seeing the scum here.

What are you implying with the bolded?

Hey! You! I asked you questions! Answer em!

[NotTheRealPaul]

Skitters ive already explained why isaid those things. Not at the time but u should be able to understand in hindsight why I said all that stuff about ur reads. Literally bcuz there was one substantitve point there. And I already looked over ur initial points.

Tbh tho its prob best if u stop pushing and look at others.

VOTE: Jae

Stop ignoring me

[NotTheRealPaul]

also skitters at that point ur argument was mostky gut. like ur initial readlist i already went thru (albeit much later then after it was put out) and explained why ur initial read of me was based of things that i thought were dumb/had no real way to respond too cuz there was no real argument

[NotTheRealPaul]

@jae thoughts on the skitters/me/aphix interactions? what exactly about aphix makes it look like he is trying to gamesolve? he avoided my question for awhile and has been tunneling me ever seince skitter decided to start pushing me.

what are ur thoughts on tatters behavior?

did i miss answers to me. maybe u didnt address them to me and if yea then i apologize

UNVOTE:

@tatters it was to get jae's attention tatters. did its job.

[NotTheRealPaul]

@aphix other than me who u think is scum? jae isnt wking per say just explaining his read.

[NotTheRealPaul]

still not scum but *shrug*

learn from our se last game and dont waste ur time tunnelling me.

[NotTheRealPaul]

@dp get off the scumslip trash. he barely mentioned it. ya ik others have mentioned but idc i wanna say it too cuz its getting annoyibg

[NotTheRealPaul]

@aphixif scum is maintaining inactivity how am i scum? like srsly how? im one of the mist active although ive calmed down a bit

[NotTheRealPaul]

ya its fair im not doing much. tbh this game is kinda a blur since i unvoted aphix. idrk whats been said.

VOTE: jae

[NotTheRealPaul]

lol

nice omgus. lynch that plz thank u

[NotTheRealPaul]

jae's reads changed minute he was voted

aphix went from town trying to gamesolve to maybe town but if yes stupid town.

i went from tred to sred correct me if im wrong but jae hasnt talked about me since his last readlist rlly. and i was a top tr there...

as far as nokikl ya scum!me prob does it. *shruuuuuuug* no point lying there if im scum id nokill there. esp with skitters replace in cuz id prob assume skitters will tr me and i can ez pocket/warlock

[NotTheRealPaul]

ebwop just continuing there ya nokill makes a lot of sense too bcuz skitters is alos most experienced with me so if the pocketing dont work i can shoot later.

ithat was a fun hypo tho. stupid to pursue more. tbh tho u could say the same for hae. i dont think anyone sred jae end of d1 and obviously experienced to understanding why one woukd no kill and shoot bp (im assuming bp was shot. imo jk existing and actually protecting is slim but technically thats possible too).

[NotTheRealPaul]

holy fuck my english.

[NotTheRealPaul]

@skitters does tatters remind u of dunkers?

[NotTheRealPaul]

when i said nokill i meant there was nokill cuz u were shot...

ya ik i said i was townleaning jae. also said i was waiting for him to do stuff. i dont mind joining a wagon to pressure him and then qhen he came out with a vote against me it makes my vote into a serious thing

[NotTheRealPaul]

read.

thats not how ppl see it. jae is being voted aphix is still being sorted (by me atleast im not syre on it atm).

and just bcuz orhers think something doesnt mean u should (ironix bcuz im a very sheepy player usually).

tatters what are YOUR opinions. like qhat do u actually think jae and aphix are? and why?

[NotTheRealPaul]

If i get lynched, lynch jae tommorrow okay?

[NotTheRealPaul]

Lynch me. Skitters and Aphix wont hop on board a jae lynch with me there.

I dont have much time for yhid and this game is quite frankly boring as shit atm so its prib best if im lynched. Skitters will get her head out of her ass and focus on finding scum without me distracting her. Ive gone back to thinking aphix is scummy but jae moreso. I think if jae flips scum, tatters should be lynched next and then aphix.

[NotTheRealPaul]

jae come join me in the stopped giving a shit club.

hurry up and fucking lynch me so skitters can focus on solving the game and take her head out of her ass.

VOTE: aphix

at this point idgaf this is fucking gut

[NotTheRealPaul]

ik the above senss mixed messages. I dont care I'll vote myself, jae, or aphix. Myself preffered bcuz if the other two are town skitters will have my head. That said my gut says aphix so id rather him than jae. I mean i also dont like jae bcuz his sr of me was unexpected and came out of nowhere to me.

Fuck im confused. Lol.

UNVOTE: Need to do some thinky thinky. If I run out of time im sheeping skitters even its on me cuz I think im a fine lynch of it'll get skitters to look at others more. I already know skitters will be hella fucking paranoid if i make it to mylo so might as well get me out the way now.

[NotTheRealPaul]

jae who tho

[NotTheRealPaul]

wait nvm fuck that im not voting myself. Skitters is prob dead tonight so that poan doesnt work.

VOTE: aphix

Gut. Pure and fuckibg simple. I'll go between this and jae. I like this more than jae.

Actually tatters is fine too but I get hwrdcore newbtown vibes off him. Im rlly not sure. Like the slot is really scummy but it kinda reminds me of dunkers.At the same time though when they kinda jump from wagon to wagon and are super sheepy.

More random thoughts. I think aphix is warlocking skitters. Warlocking = Letting skitters do his dirty work.

Jae I have no clue who ur talking too. Like plz address the person. I get work gets in the way it was still unexpected bcuz u were neutral on me and aphix (i think) and super tring me d1 and then boom im sred.

@osuka ik this is why i almost condoned my lynch

@aphix: u know the funny thing is if this is tvt we are all fucking retards

[NotTheRealPaul]

@aphix if ur gonna sr me for letting my thoughts vomit onto my keyboard then idk what to say. ur logic with jae doesnt even make sense.If im scum with jae then im literally setting u and him up to be tred. He hardbusses and gets major towncred. Plus do u think scum!me gets so frustrated at a grdlocked gamestate that I offer to help lynch myself? Like if im scum i stick with u the entire time and never waver.

pedit:

@skitters thought of that. Already said literally that. So fuck lynching me. If there was a kill yest maybe but nah. U can sr me all u want idgaf anymore. Im using AtE on everyone. Ur acting like not wanting to be lynched is scummy. Holy fuck.

@osuka no. aphix or jae. tatters is my comprimise

@aphix wut? agree on date part. Fuck MS have fun.

lol i have somethind id love to bring up with skitters but cant bcuz ongoing games

@jae nah its possible and hilarious. That said yea its prob unlikely.

honestly im prob replacing out overnight cuz ive stopped giving shits about this game.

when the pedit longer than the post

[NotTheRealPaul]

bye. hw to do. might come back and post tommorrow. might come back and post at deadline. Might not post till D3.

pedit: YAY REPLACEMENT. solve the game thanks

[NotTheRealPaul]

@paul please don't replace out

osuka has me poxketed. lol

gg if ur scum lol

okay bye fr.

also bv hi! can u plz lynch aphix with me? skitters is being a pain

[NotTheRealPaul]

V/LA until Friday

Skitters why do u think a wagon stalling is a sign if town? Do u think both scum were on aphix wagon? If so who (other than me bcuz i assume u still sr me)

[NotTheRealPaul]

Also madtatters is the safe lynch but idk. Everyone already said it but that last post is like screaming newb but idk town or scum. Im leaning town because I feel like newbscum would be more careful than to have the conftown as an sr. Either way that really shouldnt go to mylo.

@bv my aphix case is mostly a gut thing. Like idk at this point because so many have been inactive.

[NotTheRealPaul]

fuck thats kinda vague. Like my reads are fucked up bcuz ppl arent posting much. Every one of tatters posts seems to just scream newb. Aphix is gut!scum for me althoigh it may be his attitude/how he lashes out. Jae is gut!scum too and like the rest is null bcuz not much activity.

faaaak. this game.

[NotTheRealPaul]

Sorry RL being a bitch dont have much time for MS.

BV i'll try to get to u in the evening.

[NotTheRealPaul]

Okay Im really sorry I thought id have time tonight but things didnt go as planned and I have a shitton of hw I thought i wouldnt have as well as test. Was gonna drop an AP class but counselor was like nah so now im stuck and have to make la bunh flashcards and cram for a test by Friday.

I really wanna respond though. If BV/Skitters could give me like 2-3 questions each that my answer would help most, I can probably do it on my ride to school tommorrow.

Idk if anyone asked but my reads are like

Skitters, BV
What the fuck.

So yea. Idk what the fuck to do. Osuka is more towny than the rest but he kinda stopped and so that isnt even set in stone. Like Jae and aphix im kinda gut scumreading. I feel like aphix has really stopped pushing me. Like i feel as town if im still his top sr he should be pushing me. That said, who am I to say he stopped pushing? *shrug*

@BV One question I can answer is I orefer being scum more. Like to know whatsup

[NotTheRealPaul]

1. Fuck I honestly am not dure. Maybe aphix. I dont like he kinda dissappeared for a few pages. I reread a few IDIs and my preffered lynch is prob between aphix and dp.

2. Comprimise with tatters.

[NotTheRealPaul]

I'm here.

UNVOTE: because i dont remember who im voting

I'll go DP bcuz aphix wont go through. IDK about osuka rn, I'd have to reread his ISO but can't do that till weekend and that's too late obviously.

For those wondering why I can post rn is because I finished my math test 5 min early so I decided to check in. I should have a bit of time right after school though so I'll try to read his ISO then and let u know if he could be added to lynchpool.

Also ik he wasnt in my lynchpool this morning and its cuz the only ISOs I read were tatters, DP, and aphix.

i just realized i contradicted myself in this post. the earlier portion was written before I thought through things.

@skitters has your tr of aphix changed since replace in? like the reasons? or if i go back and look at OG catchup will it have the same reasons as now. If no then can u sell me on why aphix is town?

[NotTheRealPaul]

Im here. Why do we believe Jae over DP?

[NotTheRealPaul]

I dont really have a reason for not voting other than I thought osuka might be the lynch too.

I forgot to read osuka cuz I got distracted tlaking to ppl after school (sawry)

im in PST btw

pedit: why i dps partner? he was in my lynchpool dis morning. Nvm not important atm. I can defend whatever tonmorrow

Why do we believe jae over dp? I mean its suicidal for scum to fakeclaim in this situation/with this setup. But like is dp supposed to be scum tryna get a lastminute freakout/mislynch thru?

pedit2: I have memory loss aparently. I forgot I asked.

VOTE: Doctorpepper

[NotTheRealPaul]

jae u better be telling truth.

ya it was hammer

right at spot partner would be to try to get some towncred out of it *smirk*

[NotTheRealPaul]

^^^^^ if theyre both town then we lost lol

but then we just blame them for shit play

also skitters isnt dying tonight i think. bcuz jae

we cant mislynch tmmorrow unless dp and/or jae are really shitty players

why tf would i nolynch? its a guaranteed scum lynch today or tommorrow. if no lynch we lose a conftown and are in same situation

[NotTheRealPaul]

oops the areows were for 781

[NotTheRealPaul]

im still scum? u mean me deciding to end the jk/tracker debate and hammer my partner when i had an ez out is what scum!me does?

i thought id be atleast a little cleared for that but *shrug*

[NotTheRealPaul]

like deadline was in a few hours i think and i coulda let it slide but instead i hammered. i had a reason not to be there and stuff too

[NotTheRealPaul]

ya i guess so. eithe rway whatevs. gonna be

VLA till Friday

bcuz school

[NotTheRealPaul]

I'll still check in the VLA was just incase.

The third statement was a joke *facepalm* why i added a smirk at the end

the first two were kinda serious but i see how u'd see scum!me saying it. I mean I was just explaining why scum!me doesnt really hammer. Like even if i put it off for a day i dont think i can really be blamed for prioritizing rl over ms. Like had i not hammered, there'd be a debate today over the legitimacy of both claims minus skitters, something we didnt have time for yesterday. Like ik BV said dp is most likely autolynched, but I dont think so. Because personally the only reason i hammered was deadline. Id much orefer debating why each one of them makes the claim, the sense of their night actions, etc instead of a deadline coin flip. Like if im scum, i want that debate happening today, because it either gives me a way to really hardbus partner for extra towncred, or i can maybe get a mislynch and another nk out of it. Not to mention d3 is wasted on the tracker/jk debate and their isnt gonna be much real discussion.

[NotTheRealPaul]

i just looked back at BV's paragraph. Yea skitters is still here but we could nokill or kill someone else, such as BV, to add legitimacy to jk claim and get jae lynched.

Like my point is I dont think BV's scenario is neccessarily correct and i think the correct play for scum!me is pretend i had rl stuff and either hardbus today or set up an nk that gets jae lynched, which I think i could do without coming out too bad. I dont neccessarily need to push jae as a nokill definetleu helps DPs claim. So nokill, lynch Jae, while keeping hands clean or reluctantly voting, snd autolynch DP d4 killing pff all prs/conftown and almsot destroying 1-2 days of disvussion. Like now the discussion is over so we are gonna have 1-2 days of discussion we wouldnt have had if i had not hammered.

Anyway back to hw

[NotTheRealPaul]

Lol ik skitters. Its all WIFOM at this point. In all honesty i hadnt really considered nolynching (bcuz im town but ik that wont satisfy you).

Like the reason i never considered it bcuz its absolute shit situation for town. Like if im scum, I woulda considered I think, but town!me doesnt cuz its absolutely down the shitter play as town.

aokay enough of this WIFOM. My final statement is that I never considered a nolynch cuz its simply horrid play and hurts town (aka me). Beleive it or not it doesnt matter.

Now, as far as remaining scum. Who got replaced again lol? Im looking at everyone not in [skitters, BV]. Although my previous aphox read may have been colouted by him beingkinda a dick (no offense lol). Like im of half a mind to just trust skitters on this one but I need to go back myself. Like I kinda wanna lynch tatters, because this seems like town!osuka that i played with. Im realizing now my pool isnt as narrow as i thought

[NotTheRealPaul]

fuck my post was confusing on reread. uh. if ur confused i'll try to explain lol.

[NotTheRealPaul]

i didnt. i just looked back tho and checked.

idk if uve realized this but im really bad at remembering who replaced who and what happened night actions on each. night, who got lynched what day, etc. i always have to go back and check or ask who.

anyway this is kinda awk because tatters/midget slot is prob my top lynch atm but because replace they cant really defend tatters so i giess i'll just wait for them to catchup and then see.

hopefully theyre not like me and theyre caught up before we get to lylo.

[NotTheRealPaul]

oh god tatters was so scummy why were they not lynched yet

isnt their a tell about this?

like calling predeccessor scummy is scummy?

i think i remember someone saying that in a apast game but idk if that was it or how reliable it was

[NotTheRealPaul]

@RM i remember someone descirbing a tell about it. It would only be WIFOM if u aknowledged what u were doing as u did it.

I mean im not gonna use it as a major point to consider. If im not lazy I might search and find who said it and where.

[NotTheRealPaul]

@skitters: Atm without rereading its RM. Tatters slot has been really scummy/wierd. Not sure if newbtown or not but definetly dont like the slot. I havent really looked for interactions yet. I'll try this weekend. You and BV are the two people im not considering at all.

[NotTheRealPaul]

I'll try to reread tommorrow evening. Im taking the ACT in the morning and may have plans for afternoon and IDK when I'll get time. I have homework to do as well, enough that I may not get a chance all weekend. I shall try thoigh.

Im considering replacing out but id like to see this game through. I didnt expect all this homework though, which is why I originally planned to reread this weekend.

[NotTheRealPaul]

@BV
Yours wasnt really a scumclaim. Like it kinda was but when I read it and u claimed it was supposed to go in PT it didnt realky make sense.It isnt something I can see u posting accidentally.

Like MWAP just came off as something newbscum would say or gamethrowing scum would say.

[NotTheRealPaul]

also it helps thaes that u were putting in most effort at that point and I had a tr on u (I think I did lol)

pedit: im tring ur effort. it helps that skitters tred u as well tho.

ik normally u shouldnt tr effort but this seems like town!BV

atm atleast ur off the table for me. But id like to make it clear that come lylo I'll prob be considering ur slot.

[NotTheRealPaul]

Ebwop last game u also replaced someone whose name I forgot and if ai remember right i thought they had been pretty genuine, if a bit woerd. Like their tone felt pretty genuine

[NotTheRealPaul]

this aggressive? like i said it depends. ive kinda taken the backseat now that u and skitters showed up. my d1 was aggressive cuz nothing was happening. I do it more often as town but ive been pretty aggressive as scum once. My scumgame is more passive.

I didnt read uour entire wall just the stuff about me. I xurrently am unsure/townlean on osuka. Mostly from his early D1. I have a few reservations, but nothing said recently has really made a huge impression on me. I'll get to ur wall later for kore soecific stuff. Same with dp/aphix. Ive gotta sleep rn because ACT tommorrow.

Will try to find time tommorrow evening or sunday evening/late niight so we can have some realtime interaction. Im asuming u'll be free around this time on those days?

[NotTheRealPaul]

Alisae plays shadowverse? The card game? Ooooooooh

Lol jjst checked in and saw that.

@BV I'll do it tommorrow

[NotTheRealPaul]

Am I expected to respond to skitters' walls too? Bcuz like thats a lotta walls. Or are skitters and BV just bouncing stuff off each other?

[NotTheRealPaul]

@Aphix: I actually think that last post of Paul's was NAI for him; he said similar things in 1797 when he was town.

@Paul: Um, sorry *winces*. Yeah, me and BV I guess kinda bounce ideas off of each other this way. We're kinda negotiating over our reads of you atm. The second wall is directed at BV, and I don't need anything from you there. The first wall on this page has a quote from the maf chat of that mini we were partners in. You said my playstyle was making you worried in Space (when you were town). Why don't/didn't you seem worried about my questions/aggressiveness here?

Also, how did the ACT go?

@BV: if you ever wanna hydra, I'd be interested

In space i hadnt seen ur towngame b4. At first it looked a lot like ur scumgame from comics. Im not worried here cuz ur slot is confirmed...In space I was worried u were scum, here im not. I worry about ur scumgame, i dont mind the aggression from ur towmgame. I think at this point having played as svum with u and played with town you, Im not quite as worried and could probabaly read you accurately greater than 50% of the time. But like in this game i dont need to be worried bcuz bp claim is straight suicide and with tracker revealed ur confirmed.

@BV I have thoughts yes. I was typing them up then deleted cuz i felt I was repeating myself from the past and why bother to respond to old stuff. I was gonna refer to skitters point about my 406 but thats been done over ages ago.

The only thing in there that I also mighta responded to is the fals bravado stuff and like thats essentially a toneread. Like u cant outright tell if im faking the bravery and I cant prove im not. The rest didnt really ilicit much from me though.

Actually, about the false bravado. I dont think im getting lynched this game which is why ive been kinda cheeky/brave this game. Like the only ppl whove really hard SRed me this game are skitters and aphix. Like the one time it looked like I might get lynched the wagon stalled hella quick so I dont think its happening.

Im probably just gonna ramble a but because stuff is coming to my head I wanna talk about. Yea I know im contradicting myself lol. IDGAF. Too lazy to go back and delete that stuff.

Anyway...As far as dp in my tertiary reads, Ive been kinda concerned with him since MWAP bcuz Jae made a really nice comment about dp being lazy with his read. Then he appeared in my lynhcpool end of D1(I think he was atleast) because when I reread dps, aphix's, and jae's isos, he kinda jumped out bcuz he was recycling stuff and i saw others pointing out his lack of like og content. Like I remember ppl saying he was posting kinda safe.

@skitters act went...uh...okay? thanks for asking though.

[NotTheRealPaul]

Yeah, if that's town I'm fine with losing.

VOTE: NTRP

I forgot to say I dont like this. Its like he is already distancing if I flip. Like he essentially said Im either shittown or mafia and thats pretty shitty readon to vote.

And I wonder why he hasnt voted Tatters then bcuz you could say the same thing with some of his posts.

I'll reply to walls when I have a laptop handy. Dont worry BV/Skitters I have not forgotten

[NotTheRealPaul]

Responses to stuffs after i do my he tonight. Not planning to sleep muh so I'll get around to this sometime tonight/tommorrow early morning

[NotTheRealPaul]

ebwop hw* much*

[NotTheRealPaul]

/out

fuck sorry no time for shit. i need a break from all things MS.

@osuka i'll pm u when i get back if u still wannna hydra. If ur still here summer 2018

peace till the summer MS. Shoulda done this sooner but I was holding out hoping I could somehow cram school, MS, and sleep into a day but out of the three MS is the one ive gotta scarifice.

[NotTheRealPaul]

sorry bv and skitters. i wasted ur time. thought i could do more than i could. hope u understand