In post 3906, outoforder wrote: Most of you turned all that shit into scummy just because Oats is abrasive....
Which isn't even true after Oats/Roden up to any standards.
I think you're misstating the case. My beef with him is that he's manipulative and that he doesn't engage in good faith discussion with people. Frankly his abrasiveness is an X in the town column for me, just because I think being outright HOSTILE to a townie as scum is so egregious that I don't want to think that's actually what happened (the "reading comprehension" thing is indeed a personal attack). So all of that is to say, it's just his unsatisfying conversations with people that really did it for me, where he cherry picks things and doesn't look at the big picture.
And Dannstral is right on the money about how he never really initiates scum wagons or does any sort of "I noticed that person X seems really scummy for this, what do you guys think", he does mostly just piggyback onto existing things. OOO gives him credit for "good analysis" but as far as I can tell, he's still just pighybacking, drumming up some reasons to suspect anyone. It's not like scum can't make a valid point about anything.