First to talk about mod is scum. You know the rules.
VOTE: Gimli
First to talk about mod is scum. You know the rules.
VOTE: BlackIn post 25, Black wrote: Why are we claiming skills? I feel like that type of info benefits Kira more than the taskforce
Claiming skills is bad. Unless there is a good reason to know that information.In post 38, Lorne Malvo wrote:That's a terrible reason to vote someoneIn post 37, Kokichi Oma wrote: I thought you said 'why aren't we claiming skills.'
But, in this game. It's all about finding Kira. The group helping Kira could pretend to look like Kira to get the town distracted. It's different than a usual game. So intentionally doing that could just mean someone is scum but not actually Kira. So anyone doing early things that could help Kira late game, is someone that should be eliminated early rather than later.In post 40, Lorne Malvo wrote: In my experience the more someone tries to play the nice law-abiding townie who tries to do everything mechanically correct, the more likely they are to be scum
You should agree with that, Kokichi kinnie
Worst of the 2 openings.In post 58, Save The Dragons wrote: who could forget everyone's favorite part of death note, this amazing song
The game you were bug. I was in the game, but not on this account.In post 68, Save The Dragons wrote: Which game?
In the 2 games I've played with you, every time I voted you, you voted me back. You were town those games so I wanted to see if you would do the same here. Good work
Maybe I am. I am the Ultimate Supreme Leader after all.In post 89, KawaiiKame wrote: I'm thinking you're Kira
Yes, let's trust your self meta. What could go wrong?In post 99, KawaiiKame wrote:I'd have the least confidence as Kira, self-conscious in every post, I'd fade away in the bg and be a non-entityIn post 92, Save The Dragons wrote: Why do you like kawaiis posts I feel like it's possible kira would have the most confidence to come into the thread and randomly call other people kira
Well this seems like a pretty big leave out. So only their name will be shown, nothing else?In post 115, Enchant wrote:There's important thing i cut out of rules and just noticed.
All dead players flip without revealing any information. I am returning this back in "Setup" section.
What do you think about the votes on me then? Surely I must not be doing something right for multiple people to vote me? Or do you think people are just jumping on an early wagon to see? I'd like to get your opinion on each vote on me based on this post.In post 102, HighPrincessErinys wrote:He isn't particularly doing anything of value right now with his posts imo, but its too early for this one to go and throw a vote for that it feels.In post 91, Gimli wrote:you mean you think kokichi is boring? does that mean anything alignment-wise for him in your opinion?In post 85, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
Just kinda picked someone at random, my experience with scum!Mala was only the one game so this one isn't going so far as to say she's on a roll with getting scum.
Kokichi is ZZZ, this one doesn't think it super trusts Lorne and the skill claim, and Black's pro-active stance is nice to see. Strong opinions on multiple people seems to just not really be my thing this one notices but it'll try and not constantly have lukewarm reads on most people this time around.
This is interesting, what's scummy about the post he quoted? This is different than the posts you said I was suspect forIn post 93, Gimli wrote: yeah but he is quoting a very scummy post by kokichi and calling him kira for it, it's not really random, there's a read on a player here. I think maybe as scum kawaii would be more elaborate, and IDK if kira is condidently doing anything tbh. if this is a chess game, kira is the scum's king. IDK if it plays too loosey goosey but ofc kira might do that if we start just reading people as not kira for playing loose.
I don't think it's kawaii anyway.
Can you give the exact example? Cause this is actually fake meta on me.In post 96, Gimli wrote:well I'm taking it at face value. I do scumread kokichi, maybe rather strongly given how little evidence I have rn, and I find that post to be quite reminiscent of kokichi's scum game in ab:loaf. does a push, then tries to buddy up when he starts getting heat, and the backtrack doesn't feel like a normal solvey townie thought to have. 'you voted me back so you're more likely town' is a tired approach to mafia, I'm very likely omgusing people as scum anyway so it doesn't work, and I'm not voting koki cause he voted me, I'm voting him cause of all his posting not ringing townie to me and I think he knows that.In post 94, Save The Dragons wrote: I guess I kind of thought it wasn't serious but it could be
so to see that someone else read that post and thought it was scummy, I'm satisfied with it.
And considering you were actually the mod that game, you should have seen his reasoning as wrong. So I'm not quite sure how I see this vote as well.
Lying is the best part about being scum.In post 126, Lorne Malvo wrote: Ah yes, scum lie about someone else's meta during Day 1
So you admit your reasoning was wrong, but you think that I was trying to buddy both of you. I was going to vote StD until he reminded me I did that in Haunted, you were there that game so you should know I tunneled him all day 1 when we were both town. As for you, I don't townread you, I was just seeing if you'd do the same thing you always do.In post 131, Gimli wrote: more importantly than me being wrong about your behaviour in that game,
You did this when I voted you when we were both town, so I wanted to see if you had the same reaction. Not if I was automatically going to think you were town for it.
Why? If we get to day 3 and there are 2 followers left. They could basically pretend to be Kira and get voted out until it's day 5 and they win automatically. We should be still getting rid of his followers too early rather than late.In post 140, Gimli wrote: but I feel that meg might have openclaimed kira alignment, and it's still not a good flip because we should be focused solely on kira hunting.
Why? (If you answer this later, ignore. I reply as I read.)
Because you saw other people voting for me? or what?In post 156, Save The Dragons wrote: starting to have doubts on kokichi
I agree it was a pretty big omission and makes scumhunting less rewarding.In post 157, Lorne Malvo wrote:Then why are we even playing?In post 153, Gimli wrote:here, lorne. enchant just decided to make things worse for us.In post 115, Enchant wrote:There's important thing i cut out of rules and just noticed.
All dead players flip without revealing any information. I am returning this back in "Setup" section.
I like you already. I agree.In post 165, Black wrote: I just want to add, regarding hunting followers/Kira:
If we suspect someone is a follower then we kill them. We don't keep them around to try to see if we can figure out who Kira is from them. Each follower can use Shinigami Eyes correct? That means scum can get two real names a night assuming the followers don't accidently target the same guy. The quicker we get rid of the followers then the less real names are revealed to scum.
What's cool about this game is that the followers can't tell each other or Kira what their eyes discovered overnight. They're gonna have to figure out a way to push that information in public without getting caught
Slightly suspicious of Gimli for even semi-suggesting we ignore followers
Eh, I feel like that's a weak read. But I guess?In post 167, Gimli wrote: @black: this read
the man is paying attention, and while kira is follower hunting, they might not do so in public like this.In post 79, Vanderscamp wrote:Assuming I'm right about the rules, strong read from this that Black is not a followerIn post 29, Black wrote: Kira followers fake claiming is actually genius the more I think about it. The followers don't know each other and Kira doesn't know them, but they all know what skills aren't in play. Claiming a skill that isn't in play let's your two buddies know you're with them
vander gets not kira points and not follower points for this post, imo.
I like your style. Getting Kira Day 1 would be boring.In post 172, Lorne Malvo wrote: I want to hang Kira day 5 so we get maximum playing time
Good analysis. What do you think of Gimli saying they were the towniest so far despite all this?In post 173, Black wrote: Ok...weird thoughts on Vander so far...a lot of these actions are NAI but they still pinged me
Do we like spoilers? Do we not like spoilers? Will people read this if I put it in tags or will people hate me for not tagging it and clogging up the page? I have Mafia anxiety
Spoiler: Vander giving me the creeps
So yeah... a lot of this is just me getting a vibe that Vander is trying to seem like a proactive townie while really not contributing much of his own stuff. When he is providing he's arguing why people can go either alignment. The skills comment is probably the most scummy thing here along with the Kawaii vote
VOTE: Vanderscamp
Agreed, going for people who are just kira can lead to more miselim's cause we could be overlooking things by not looking for followers too.In post 174, KawaiiKame wrote:It is a good flip, we need to focus on anyone who is Kira/Kira aligned, not exclusively KiraIn post 140, Gimli wrote: but I feel that meg might have openclaimed kira alignment, and it's still not a good flip because we should be focused solely on kira hunting.
Pretty sure signature stuff is against rules so I don't think that's the case.In post 177, Gimli wrote: they literally put 'i'm death, straight up' in the signature
is this softing to kira
Who do you think is the towniest so far?In post 180, Lorne Malvo wrote: I would be down to kill anyone who talks about mechanics too much
You've figured us all out. I am their Ultimate Supreme Leader.In post 178, Gimli wrote: (koki, mala, kawaii) imo
I scumread anyone who tries to take beginning of the game back to RVS, which it looked like you were trying to do. But, I realized that's NAI for you which is why I unvoted.In post 191, Save The Dragons wrote:i originally tr you for doing the same thing you did in village but then i realized you were doing something weird in village and this is entirely different. iirc you weren't scumreading me for shitposting you were just trying to get reactions. initially. then you were scumreading me for shitposting.In post 185, Kokichi Oma wrote:Because you saw other people voting for me? or what?In post 156, Save The Dragons wrote: starting to have doubts on kokichi
here it looks like you could have just come up with a fake scumread on me and when pressed on it realized you had already done something similar in village where you eventually were scumreading me and you backed off to try and not bring so much attention to yourself, because someone like gimli who played in that game too could fact check you easily.
it's not really a strong read it just kind of makes me go hmm
I guess it could be, I'm just not focused on it. Maybe because it's just from that movie.In post 198, Gimli wrote:How do you know it's not the case? It can totally be the case. All I know is that I wasn't seeing this signature, then I refreshed it and there it was. Even if we exclude the signature, the posting is making sense as signaling just the same. It's weird cryptic phrasing.In post 193, Kokichi Oma wrote:Pretty sure signature stuff is against rules so I don't think that's the case.In post 177, Gimli wrote: they literally put 'i'm death, straight up' in the signature
is this softing to kira
Idk why you're so quick to disregard that as nothing.
In post 204, Black wrote:I thought it was a weird read but I don't necessarily think that someone disagreeing with my read is a scumtell. I will openly admit I don't have the best scum radar. I can see a situation where Gimli/Vander are some kind of follower/Kira mix but that is something I'm not confident in and will have to develop moreIn post 190, Kokichi Oma wrote:Good analysis. What do you think of Gimli saying they were the towniest so far despite all this?
Shouldn't you be flipping me since you said I'm most likely Kira?In post 207, Gimli wrote: I don't wanna keep talking about it but if we want to flip a follower the best case I see atm is kawaii.
What meg did, I clearly see the town motivation for it, so I'm not bothered with it not do I think is too likely to be a scum.
In post 158, Gimli wrote: so I think (mala, koki) is where things can be sinceI'm kinda nullscum read on mala's entrance and talking to enchant instead of talking to people
How ironic
It's called a joke, I'm still NAI on Gimli.In post 216, HighPrincessErinys wrote: Also find a better Gotcha to spring on someone. Like you're right this is an oops hypocrisy moment. But this is really eh.
Are you familiar with Cloud Retainer. I think you two would get along well.In post 216, HighPrincessErinys wrote: This one also sees zero reason to read into Kawaii quoting Puss In Boots at this time.
Mechanically it makes sense to not out the skills, which is why I haven't brought them up. Which I thought was obvious for everyone.In post 223, Gimli wrote: the only questions related with the setup that I think are justifiable for us to go through d1 is 1) how to kira hunt/who to kill etc that we already went through; and 2) specific talk about skills. I don't think we should talk about skills because the kira followers can coordinate with kira. unless we wanna go full claiming abilities and do something else to break night actions.
I don't wanna talk about 2), I normally leave it with the smarter players, so I was expecting kokichi to help with that sort of buisness but he seems to be scum unfortunately.
Looks can be deceiving. Never trust a liar.In post 231, Vanderscamp wrote: Because it obviously looks like a town read.
I would say Black is town. Gimli I don't get that read.In post 233, Vanderscamp wrote:Gimli.In post 139, Kokichi Oma wrote: Since we were both wrong, let's change the topic.
Let's all play a game. Which person do you think is most likely NOT to be Kira as of right now and why?
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But I would vote Gimli over Black if that were somehow the decision because I think Black is about 0% to be a follower.
Am I missing something?In post 238, Vanderscamp wrote: I think Gimli is pretty clearly the most town person in the game atm
I'm not looking for followers vs kira at the moment. I'm looking for scummy people. Azu seems the scummiest so far for jumping on a read that even Gimli said was wrong. But, it's still too early.In post 245, KawaiiKame wrote:Who do you feel is a follower?In post 192, Kokichi Oma wrote:Agreed, going for people who are just kira can lead to more miselim's cause we could be overlooking things by not looking for followers too.In post 174, KawaiiKame wrote:It is a good flip, we need to focus on anyone who is Kira/Kira aligned, not exclusively KiraIn post 140, Gimli wrote: but I feel that meg might have openclaimed kira alignment, and it's still not a good flip because we should be focused solely on kira hunting.