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Post #33 (isolation #2) » Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:24 am
Postby Black »
I feel like it would have been more beneficial to you if you had waited for implosion to post more before outting the read. Posting it just to post it even though it was pointless doesn't really seem like you cared much about figuring out his alignment
In post 33, Black wrote:Posting it just to post it even though it was pointless doesn't really seem like you cared much about figuring out his alignment
Agreed, but do you think PC scum goes in on the LAMIST play that doesn’t even look a little bit town?
Not really. I felt performative vibes when I first read it but it felt like the kind of performative that probably comes from town
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Post #71 (isolation #10) » Tue Mar 26, 2024 6:20 am
Postby Black »
In post 70, Bingle wrote:
This line, black. It seems like something you’re pushing because you think you should be pushing something rather than because you think it’s going to give you real ai information. Am I wrong?
Yeah you're wrong. I'm not even pushing anything there
In post 71, Black wrote:
Yeah you're wrong. I'm not even pushing anything there
Miscommunication there, I think. I’m saying pushing as in “you’re poking at pc to do things” rather than “you’re presenting the argument/narrative that pc is scum”.
My initial comment was meant to gauge a reaction from PC but the rest was just me answering his questions followed by a comment about meta. I wasn't expecting to get much out of it
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Post #110 (isolation #14) » Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:39 am
Postby Black »
In post 104, Dannflor wrote:
generally you're making a fair number of posts but it doesn't really feel like you're trying to find scum yet, you're still sitting on your first RVS vote too. this is all like *fine* it's still early but idk some stuff has happened now
This feels eerily similar to the push you made against me in Normal 1102. Granted you were scum in that game so it was in bad faith but I'm surprised you seem to have an issue with my early game pacing after that game. I'm doing my thang like I normally do
In post 104, Dannflor wrote:
I also felt like your reaction to bingle was more focused on dismantling his reason for pushing you rather than like, using the opportunity to try to get inside bingle's mind
I have some thoughts about the way Bingle framed my "line of questioning" and my "push" but I haven't really come to a conclusion on the situation yet
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Post #118 (isolation #16) » Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:47 am
Postby Black »
Dann I think you scumreading me for not trying to find scum less than 24 hours into the game is a little unfair, especially considering I've engaged with PC, Bingle, and now I'm attempting to engage with the worst. This is how I typically try to get reads early. I don't understand what your issue is exactly
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Post #119 (isolation #17) » Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:48 am
Postby Black »
In post 117, implosion wrote:
I can definitely see where thread seeming-consensus is coming from atm; I can jive with PC town and also worst town to some degree and also with Black being sketchy, but i'm not gonna go as far as scummy right now
In post 118, Black wrote:
Dann I think you scumreading me for not trying to find scum less than 24 hours into the game is a little unfair, especially considering I've engaged with PC, Bingle, and now I'm attempting to engage with the worst. This is how I typically try to get reads early. I don't understand what your issue is exactly
if you really think this is unfair or reminiscent of my scum game push on you im not sure why you don't instantly think i might be scum for it like you did in our last game together
I'm struggling to imagine scum!you doing the exact same thing this game, especially considering the result from the last game. There's the WIFOM argument of maybe you're doing it for that very reason but right now I think I'm leaning towards this being a genuine albeit wrong read
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Post #128 (isolation #20) » Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:23 am
Postby Black »
VOTE: Bingle
I think 120 is contrarian just for the sake of getting townread. Like an "I could easily pile on Black here but I'm not" type thing. I feel like Bingle would be more interested in confronting others about their Black reads if he were town. This combined with the way he framed my conversation with PC earlier makes me think something is off
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Post #157 (isolation #21) » Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:28 am
Postby Black »
In post 137, Bingle wrote:
Eh. I'm not particularly interested in confronting Dann yet, no
What I meant was I would expect you to question the validity of the scumreads on me when multiple people joined the wagon for little to no reason. You didn't seem interested in sorting my wagon at all despite thinking I might be town
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Post #158 (isolation #22) » Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:29 am
Postby Black »
In post 137, Bingle wrote:
I will say, the reason I'm townreading you is that my impression of your town game is that you're aggressive and pushy and don't really have a thing you want to be doing behind that and my impression of your scumgame is that you're aggressive and pushy and have a goal. This feels more like the former, and so I think you're town
It wouldn't be a game of Mafia if someone didn't try to meta read me in the first several pages
Like I'm happy you reached the right conclusion but it's just such a weak reason to stand on and I'm not even sure if I believe that you believe this
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Post #159 (isolation #23) » Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:31 am
Postby Black »
In post 156, Klick wrote:
I somewhat agree
I felt meh about doing it at the time but wasn't sure what else to do and wanted to do something productive
And then ceejay came up and made himself a much better option
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Post #170 (isolation #24) » Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:39 am
Postby Black »
I'm liking ceejay I think. I like 167 in particular because I also felt like Klick's read was a little forced so it's nice to see that ceejay is also finding an issue with it
Bingle's responses to me have been fine. Good enough to want to move on for now
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Post #186 (isolation #31) » Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:58 am
Postby Black »
And I bring up the 24 hour thing because I think my posting was perfectly fine for the beginning stage of a game and I have no clue why you seem to have an issue with it
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Post #201 (isolation #37) » Wed Mar 27, 2024 8:51 am
Postby Black »
In post 198, Dannflor wrote:
idk if im wrong and you are town arguing with me that my read sucks isn't really going to help, if you're town (and presumably you think im town) I think I will figure it out eventually
it's not like im about to eliminate you right now
I lean town on you but your read has been bugging me so I wanted you to go into detail about it
I still don't think it makes a lot of sense but I'm not going to be able to convince you I'm trying to sort people so we can just move on
Not too sure. Probably back to null. I've liked some of his posting since he left my wagon
I wrote this up last night then deleted it but ah well: do you have any (detailed) thoughts about this game which aren't retaliatory against how people have treated you
No not really. The only thing that comes to mind is my Klick read and I've already explained those thoughts. I don't really feel strongly about that read or any of my reads for that matter
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Post #211 (isolation #40) » Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:52 am
Postby Black »
I tend to put more focus into how other players are manuvering around me or interacting with me early in the game. It helps me get my feet wet and the interactions can be useful
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Post #230 (isolation #49) » Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:58 am
Postby Black »
Part of that might be because I don't think he would push me in a very similar way he did last game when the result of said push last game was me thinking he's scum
Still I just generally like his posts and his thoughts seem to be coming naturally
You'll notice once I called him out for his bad read he just kinda gave up a little
I guess thinking about it, if he were scum this game and he tried to do the same thing except not give up and continue to engage with me about the read then that would be a pretty decent way to lure me into townreading him. That's a WIFOM argument that I'd rather re-evaluate later
In post 231, Bingle wrote:
Weirdly, I feel fairly certain he's scum and can't recall having this feeling. What do you think Dann is doing that is towny?
I like that he doesn't have many reads this game because I think Dann tends to kinda toss out reads early on as scum. I can see the progression in the little reads he does have and it makes sense to me
Something about the way he's interacting with me and the game just feels natural
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Post #256 (isolation #56) » Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:24 pm
Postby Black »
In post 253, Klick wrote:
You've just reminded me that dumplings exist and now I'm craving chicken and dumplings
I hope you make it from scratch instead of the gross stuff that comes out of a can. Maybe it's better in the UK but I have a traumatic response to canned chicken and dumplings from having to eat it so much as a kid
I'm an hour outside of Chicago for the next two days on a work trip, so it'll be a crapshoot whether the place is good, but your suggestion is accepted.