Oh cmon how are you not gonna make your lynch pool me Draynth and NM given the player in the game?In post 38, AP wrote:Current lynch pool: Espeonage/UglyDuck/pinturicchio/Draynth
Reason: LAL (Lynch all LURKERS)
It's been more than 2 hours (two and a half even) and they still haven't posted. (One thing I've learnt from Dr Evil is..
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First part - no opinion I guessIn post 78, skitter30 wrote:
Hmmm, ok. I asked cuz 25 pinged me a bit. It feels like something you think you're supposed to feel so you're just saying it, if that makes sense?In post 30, the worst wrote:not on MS, just once offsite like 2 years ago
I was scum that time tho, nailed scum on the other team and got NK'd >.<
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Lol that's so trueIn post 63, UglyDuck wrote:Oh cmon how are you not gonna make your lynch pool me Draynth and NM given the player in the game?
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this is reminding me of:In post 65, UglyDuck wrote:also do I understand correctly that the mafia does not get a kill in this game. Or is it just so "assumed" that it is not mentioned in the set up?
a) scum!esp 'forgetting' that scum don't get to kill in the last iteration of jungle republic in an attempt to fake a townslip
b) you overly focusing on attempting to understanding the mechanics like you did in pyp in an attempt to distance yourself from them [ie duh that I don't know what scum can do since I'm not scum]
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This is bothering me in the same way that ceejay's vote on AP was bothering me. Why is your immediate response to esp to call for him to be lynched him? Ceejay did the same thing to AP.
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duckling I'm getting scum vibes from you :/
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Also in the last iteration of jungle republic, esp did in fact get hard-cleared by just about everyone for bussing scum!a50 super-hard, so I think that there is some merit to this theory
Second part - lol
Third part - it was you all that chose to name me a newb skum that game... it is on me that the LAL tactic worked out, and I own that.... but go back and read the thread... any questions I had I am like.... 99% sure I asked in QT.
Also, you calling me out kind of negated the point of me asking. Good players should be smarter every once and a while. Us dummies can create avenues for info that you can't... as long as you like... shut up for 2 hours every once and a while.-
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In post 105, pinturicchio wrote:
@UglyDuck I'm eager to know about this too, it's by far the less random thing I've read on the thread, along with the Espeonage vote on the worst and visceversaIn post 103, skitter30 wrote: -> uglyduck responds to what I said about him, and says he thinks I'm behaving differently from last game, and votes me (I still want him to describe how I'm being different)
Yeah I absolutely am not going to give details on how I think Skitter is behaving differently at this point. I see no upside to that.
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In post 110, skitter30 wrote:lol, ok, this'll be fun
a) @uglyduck: OK, what useful info were you expecting to gain from seeing who would be eager to answer that question?
b) @the worst: I didn't decide you were scum from the get-go. Your early posts don't really feel like town-you, and you're not interacting with me the way I'd expect town!you to be interacting with me
c) @the worst: What do you mean by 'Skitter is a lot keener and less careful here than she usually is'?
(ie 'keener' isn't used super commonly in american-english and the definition that I'm applying here doesn't really make sense given the rest of the sentence as far as I can tell )
d) @the worst: why are you voting me right now?In post 114, pinturicchio wrote:
This is giving me the worst paranoia I've ever experienced in my entire lifeIn post 63, UglyDuck wrote:
Oh cmon how are you not gonna make your lynch pool me Draynth and NM given the player in the game?In post 38, AP wrote:Current lynch pool: Espeonage/UglyDuck/pinturicchio/Draynth
Reason: LAL (Lynch all LURKERS)
It's been more than 2 hours (two and a half even) and they still haven't posted. (One thing I've learnt from Dr Evil is..
You have played with me more than anyone else on this site - don’t say it out loud - but if you take a moment you will figure out my alignment-
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I assumed one skum would read way to much into it and not be willing to let it goIn post 110, skitter30 wrote:lol, ok, this'll be fun
a) @uglyduck: OK, what useful info were you expecting to gain from seeing who would be eager to answer that question?
b) @the worst: I didn't decide you were scum from the get-go. Your early posts don't really feel like town-you, and you're not interacting with me the way I'd expect town!you to be interacting with me
c) @the worst: What do you mean by 'Skitter is a lot keener and less careful here than she usually is'?
(ie 'keener' isn't used super commonly in american-english and the definition that I'm applying here doesn't really make sense given the rest of the sentence as far as I can tell )
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I have been informed my sarcasm doesn’t context well over posting - that was sarcasm.In post 123, UglyDuck wrote:
I assumed one skum would read way to much into it and not be willing to let it goIn post 110, skitter30 wrote:lol, ok, this'll be fun
a) @uglyduck: OK, what useful info were you expecting to gain from seeing who would be eager to answer that question?
b) @the worst: I didn't decide you were scum from the get-go. Your early posts don't really feel like town-you, and you're not interacting with me the way I'd expect town!you to be interacting with me
c) @the worst: What do you mean by 'Skitter is a lot keener and less careful here than she usually is'?
(ie 'keener' isn't used super commonly in american-english and the definition that I'm applying here doesn't really make sense given the rest of the sentence as far as I can tell )
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Not casting shit. If i wanted to cast shade i would say something suspicious and ominous. Instead i have save “i see no upside in revealing my reasons to you”.In post 126, ceejayvinoya wrote:
Not gonna give details? You're just casting shade then.In post 106, UglyDuck wrote:In post 105, pinturicchio wrote:
@UglyDuck I'm eager to know about this too, it's by far the less random thing I've read on the thread, along with the Espeonage vote on the worst and visceversaIn post 103, skitter30 wrote: -> uglyduck responds to what I said about him, and says he thinks I'm behaving differently from last game, and votes me (I still want him to describe how I'm being different)
Yeah I absolutely amnot going to give detailson how I think Skitter is behaving differently at this point. I see no upside to that.
In regard to the point of me asking the question - I just wanted to see who seemed eager to answer.
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Shit *her* - mb skitterIn post 128, UglyDuck wrote:
Not casting shit. If i wanted to cast shade i would say something suspicious and ominous. Instead i have save “i see no upside in revealing my reasons to you”.In post 126, ceejayvinoya wrote:
Not gonna give details? You're just casting shade then.In post 106, UglyDuck wrote:In post 105, pinturicchio wrote:
@UglyDuck I'm eager to know about this too, it's by far the less random thing I've read on the thread, along with the Espeonage vote on the worst and visceversaIn post 103, skitter30 wrote: -> uglyduck responds to what I said about him, and says he thinks I'm behaving differently from last game, and votes me (I still want him to describe how I'm being different)
Yeah I absolutely amnot going to give detailson how I think Skitter is behaving differently at this point. I see no upside to that.
In regard to the point of me asking the question - I just wanted to see who seemed eager to answer.
Let me clear the shade in case the vote wasn’t sufficient - skitter is skummy to me rn-
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Probs not sharing this game day - just want to get ahead of itIn post 127, the worst wrote:I want to see Ugly's reasoning in aboutttttt 2 or 3 real life days
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I absolutely did - thanksIn post 131, pinturicchio wrote:
@UglyDuck I think you missed thisIn post 118, pinturicchio wrote:
The upside to that is that there are like four other players (including me) in that last game too, so you giving a solid meta read on skitter could help us to sort her out. I mean, I've been reading skitter's posts so far with special attention and I can't see that much difference between here and the last two games I've played with her.In post 106, UglyDuck wrote:In post 105, pinturicchio wrote:
@UglyDuck I'm eager to know about this too, it's by far the less random thing I've read on the thread, along with the Espeonage vote on the worst and visceversaIn post 103, skitter30 wrote: -> uglyduck responds to what I said about him, and says he thinks I'm behaving differently from last game, and votes me (I still want him to describe how I'm being different)
Yeah I absolutely am not going to give details on how I think Skitter is behaving differently at this point. I see no upside to that.
In regard to the point of me asking the question - I just wanted to see who seemed eager to answer.
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You have a quarter of a bottle of scotch of my timeIn post 136, the worst wrote:
Ugly got some time to talk about this?In post 133, the worst wrote:ok that was facetious.
but.
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I choose to hold off bc i can. What would myreasons matter at this point?In post 138, the worst wrote:Will your thoughts get progressively better?
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In post 140, the worst wrote:
If skitter is scum you die if you don't explainIn post 139, UglyDuck wrote:
I choose to hold off bc i can. What would myreasons matter at this point?In post 138, the worst wrote:Will your thoughts get progressively better?
Alright. Why would you hold off on voicing your thoughts on how skitter is different until d2, from a holistic pov?
If skitter is town you die if you don't explain it
I agree let her produce more readable content first but we should be airing this shit before EOD
Yeah...i feel like me getting lynched D1 based solely on this would create more information than i ever potentially could. Including my reasons on skitter skum read.-
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Honestly - i am behind sorry.In post 339, pinturicchio wrote:Wait duh I know how to solve this:
UglyDuck, whenever you come back and read this, please tell me what you think about Draynth
UD is town this game and he was scum with Draynth last game; knowing another player's alignment from the start helps to sort that player from the begining in another games.
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Answering this first bc it was directed at me -In post 339, pinturicchio wrote:Wait duh I know how to solve this:
UglyDuck, whenever you come back and read this, please tell me what you think about Draynth
UD is town this game and he was scum with Draynth last game; knowing another player's alignment from the start helps to sort that player from the begining in another games.
1) Dray questioning my (and I suppose Sando's) understanding of the set up.
----- TBF I just played a game with him where I did this as skum... like a lot, so I am forced to take it with salt. Fwiw... I do this almost all the time (ask in the public forum) even if I ask in my PT, just in case it is missed by someone else. I mean obviously as skum I would do it for different reasons - but whatever, that is how I feel about that.In post 154, Draynth wrote:
Skitter already mentioned it, this feels forced to me. It says it right there in the setup post on the first page.In post 65, UglyDuck wrote:also do I understand correctly that the mafia does not get a kill in this game. Or is it just so "assumed" that it is not mentioned in the set up?
Not sure how both of you managed to miss it, especially presuming you actually went back to check if it was and decided it wasn't thereIn post 66, Sando wrote:
So assumed since the werewolf one is mentioned. At least don't see anywhere where it's mentioned that they definitively don't.In post 65, UglyDuck wrote:also do I understand correctly that the mafia does not get a kill in this game. Or is it just so "assumed" that it is not mentioned in the set up?
2) Dray calling TYR opportunistic.In post 160, Draynth wrote:Yeah I'm not hopping on the skitter wagon unfortunately, I'm happy for UD to hold his reasoning as someone (Sando) explained it can pretty much negate said reasoning but i'm also not gonna join a wagon based on that withheld info.
I'd also like to see TYR's response to 97 because 95, ironically, feels ingenuine. Seems like he's being opportunistic.
3) Drays standings.
--- So the weird thing here to me is that he puts both me and Sando in this pool. But like... if we are both skum faking that we don't understand... ect. that doesn't really make sense. seems paranoid.In post 161, Draynth wrote:I only gave the thread a quick skim on the first read through so I'm gonna go back and think about some posts now.
Only ones that really stand out are
Town - Skitter
Scum - UD , Sando (based on 154)
There is not a lot to go on here but what I would say is that -
The Skum!Dray I played with stood behind the lines, but at least when they spoke they made an attempt. This kind of just seems lazy. Really don't know to be honest. If this is also Town!Dray then I guess I wouldn't mind lynching here if the content is never going to increase, but all in all I am always against LAL lynches on D1 based on the information it provides for the subsequent days (so yah, free info... lurk against me when you are skum).-
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also I am going to bed but will post more info in the am - this is where my notes are at for now:
ManWithNoName - null
skitter30 - skum
Espeonage - null
Sando - dependent on flip, but null
the worst - null
ceejayvinoya - no idea
TheYankeeReaper - town
pinturicchio - either town or fantastic skum. leaning on the town side.
Not_Mafia - no idea
AP - no idea
Draynth - town
* I said I would do more tomorrow so don't hold this post against me, just based off of brief re read I did to answer TW question *
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I did say why in the post - I think that he at least "tried" as skum. this seems different.In post 379, skitter30 wrote:
Why is your conclusion that draynth is town given 359?In post 360, UglyDuck wrote:Draynth - town-
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This is where I am at in summary:
1) AP (Null/Skum) - Everything about him makes me want scream skum but it is based off of interactions of one game played. The way they leaned off of TW and then off seems quite like town to me, and then the way they are posting seems different than the AP I know.
2) ceejayvinoya (Null/Skum) - Definition of lazy/padding their posts. Pretty much RVS then has done nothing but bring up.... nothing.
3) Draynth (Town) - See previous post.
4) Espeonage (Null) - Has not done anything. Brought up multiball tactics after unvoting then revoted the same person which I guess is too dumb to be skummy - so null.
5) ManWithNoName - Either super town or super skum. going with super town at this point.
6) Not_Mafia - Was unhelpful when I played with them as skum, and is unhelpful now? Is this their meta? Really asking here, because players like that should just be policy lynched. Do they ever actually contribute anything... useful?
7) Pin - Not touching it. I think they are town in the first game they think I am town and I don't know what to do with that.
8) Sando - Interactions seem quite towny.
9) Skitter - Skum-a-souraus-rex.
10) TW - oh bro duck, how I hope you are town.
11) Yankee - No idea.
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what does this mean? I get you are aknoledging you were prodded... but skum aint dedded means?In post 405, Espeonage wrote:sup, prodded but scum aint dedded yet.-
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yes it is.In post 447, skitter30 wrote:
Well, idk if I phrased them as questions so much as made observations that I was kinda expecting you to make some sort of response to, but maybe I didn't convey that well so that might be on me, idk. So like, don't feel bad or anything <3In post 443, the worst wrote:I feel bad and confused if I've ignored things you've specifically directed at me. I don't necessarily feel the need to comment on every post you make but I definitely don't intend to ignore anyone.
(I was worried for a minute that I had done something to like make you feel bad on like a personal level or something, which is not what I want to do like at all)
So this was one of the things that I had brought up earlier in 350. You had oringally said his vote on you felt like 'good ol' fashioned scumfuckery' so I'm trying to understand why you stopped thinking that the vote was scummy and why you're now saying his early game was probably NAI.In post 443, the worst wrote:Espe dead null. Disliked his early content but on the balance of things not really an AI distaste. Need more content when he's available.
I have a *slight* (ie like *tiny*) townlean on NM and theoretically I'd be down to pl him but this setup only allows for one mislynch if wolves don't crosskill so a pl probably isn't the best idea here.
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he's basically saying that he wanted scum to get lynched in his absence and the connotation is that he still maintains the same scumread that he had earlier, which I think is the one on tw.In post 445, UglyDuck wrote:
what does this mean? I get you are aknoledging you were prodded... but skum aint dedded means?In post 405, Espeonage wrote:sup, prodded but scum aint dedded yet.
aside, is english your first language?
this...... is not english
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In post 449, UglyDuck wrote:
yes it is.In post 447, skitter30 wrote:
Well, idk if I phrased them as questions so much as made observations that I was kinda expecting you to make some sort of response to, but maybe I didn't convey that well so that might be on me, idk. So like, don't feel bad or anything <3In post 443, the worst wrote:I feel bad and confused if I've ignored things you've specifically directed at me. I don't necessarily feel the need to comment on every post you make but I definitely don't intend to ignore anyone.
(I was worried for a minute that I had done something to like make you feel bad on like a personal level or something, which is not what I want to do like at all)
So this was one of the things that I had brought up earlier in 350. You had oringally said his vote on you felt like 'good ol' fashioned scumfuckery' so I'm trying to understand why you stopped thinking that the vote was scummy and why you're now saying his early game was probably NAI.In post 443, the worst wrote:Espe dead null. Disliked his early content but on the balance of things not really an AI distaste. Need more content when he's available.
I have a *slight* (ie like *tiny*) townlean on NM and theoretically I'd be down to pl him but this setup only allows for one mislynch if wolves don't crosskill so a pl probably isn't the best idea here.
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he's basically saying that he wanted scum to get lynched in his absence and the connotation is that he still maintains the same scumread that he had earlier, which I think is the one on tw.In post 445, UglyDuck wrote:
what does this mean? I get you are aknoledging you were prodded... but skum aint dedded means?In post 405, Espeonage wrote:sup, prodded but scum aint dedded yet.
aside, is english your first language?
this...... is not english
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VOTE: SandoIn post 529, Sando wrote:
I find it vaguely scummy, but I've certainly seen town do it as well. When scum don't have daychat it's less of a tell imo, since with daychat they tend to converse in their scumthread before commenting in the game.In post 522, ManWithNoName wrote:Anyone a fan of the Elli tell? Because Draynth is posting elsewhere and not in this game.-
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meant to reply to the thread, not quote that when I voted. sorry.In post 530, UglyDuck wrote:
VOTE: SandoIn post 529, Sando wrote:
I find it vaguely scummy, but I've certainly seen town do it as well. When scum don't have daychat it's less of a tell imo, since with daychat they tend to converse in their scumthread before commenting in the game.In post 522, ManWithNoName wrote:Anyone a fan of the Elli tell? Because Draynth is posting elsewhere and not in this game.-
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not the second time. answered the skitter thing and quite clearly stated I no longer think he is skum.In post 537, ceejayvinoya wrote:*Looks at clock*
Yes it is indeed some point.
This is like the second time you refused to out reasons and said you'll say it later. What about skitter? Is skitter still scum?
also, huge part of why I got the info I wanted out of the situation is because I chose not to share the opinion at the time.
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so I am gonna pull the quote out of self -D but also I am not calling you skummy for it I was just pointing out the inconsistency.In post 540, the worst wrote:Bull
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I spat it when you said you'd withhold your case on skitter. Just it was earlier in the phase and I insisted you do it before EOD.-
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In post 106, UglyDuck wrote:In post 105, pinturicchio wrote:
@UglyDuck I'm eager to know about this too, it's by far the less random thing I've read on the thread, along with the Espeonage vote on the worst and visceversaIn post 103, skitter30 wrote: -> uglyduck responds to what I said about him, and says he thinks I'm behaving differently from last game, and votes me (I still want him to describe how I'm being different)
Yeah I absolutely am not going to give details on how I think Skitter is behaving differently at this point. I see no upside to that.
In regard to the point of me asking the question - I just wanted to see who seemed eager to answer.
I have no clue how to fucking snip on this forum so sorry about that, but that was my reference.In post 107, the worst wrote:I mean I am happy to explain everything I've done so far skitter. it just feels like you've decided I'm scum from the get go
I think you know my town game drifts from aloof to very lucid at the drop of an hat. Haven't really seen anything to sink my teeth into yet.
pedit: vibing that deeply UgDuck, Skitter is a lot keener and less careful here than she usually is.-
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incorrect.In post 545, the worst wrote:correct yeah
My skitter reasons were as you put it "reasons" which I have changed my mind about.
My reasons about you... as you pointed out... have nothing to do with your meta-
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In post 546, UglyDuck wrote:
incorrect.In post 545, the worst wrote:correct yeah
My skitter reasons were as you put it "reasons" which I have changed my mind about.
My reasons about you... as you pointed out... have nothing to do with your meta
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I never said I pointed out my reasons.In post 549, Sando wrote:
You've changed your mind yeah, but have you ever actually articulated those "reasons" about skitter?In post 546, UglyDuck wrote:My skitter reasons were as you put it "reasons" which I have changed my mind about.
My reasons about you... as you pointed out... have nothing to do with your meta
You pointed that out about me? Where?
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Also like... when did you start exactly?
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wasn't meant to be funny. was pointing out that it is hard to do less than me, but you have accomplished it thus far.In post 555, Espeonage wrote:While that's funny. Funny isn't townie.-
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please re read the post where I said "as you pointed out..."In post 552, Sando wrote:
What the actual fuck...In post 550, UglyDuck wrote:
I never said I pointed out my reasons.In post 549, Sando wrote:
You've changed your mind yeah, but have you ever actually articulated those "reasons" about skitter?In post 546, UglyDuck wrote:My skitter reasons were as you put it "reasons" which I have changed my mind about.
My reasons about you... as you pointed out... have nothing to do with your meta
You pointed that out about me? Where?
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how have you not gotten that I am making no effort to make sense at this point?In post 559, Sando wrote:
Yeah ok...In post 557, UglyDuck wrote:please re read the post where I said "as you pointed out..."
See the bold part, this whole thing from you makes zero of the senses.In post 544, Sando wrote:Is UD saying that they voted for Skitter for "reasons" but when pressed about constantly voting people for "reasons" defends the skitter one by saying their "reasons" are no longer valid and they don't scumread them?Cause that doesn't answer the question of why UD is currently just constantly using "reasons".-
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yeah yeah whatever.In post 565, Espeonage wrote:Ok but like why tho? Bc that's bad.
Real question
Doing nothing > than saying something without reasons
Doing nothing < saying something without reasons\
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In post 566, the worst wrote:
THE DAY HAS FINALLY COME.....In post 565, Espeonage wrote:Ok but like why tho? Bc that's bad.
I objectively agree with Espe's statement.
look them in the eye and say that-
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wait I got the avatars messed up you are no joke thereIn post 569, UglyDuck wrote:In post 566, the worst wrote:
THE DAY HAS FINALLY COME.....In post 565, Espeonage wrote:Ok but like why tho? Bc that's bad.
I objectively agree with Espe's statement.
look them in the eye and say that-
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assuming you mean doing nothing is better than the other option?In post 568, the worst wrote:doing nothing.-
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remember how we had the "we should talk post the game" chat before?In post 574, the worst wrote:
any dayIn post 572, UglyDuck wrote:
assuming you mean doing nothing is better than the other option?In post 568, the worst wrote:doing nothing.
after the game I would love to find out if that is actually what you think to be true "on any day"-
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in what world are you reading me in any form as a "caught?"In post 578, Espeonage wrote:I'm getting some, "I've been caught but y'all shouldn't have caugth me because of OTHER PEOPLE" vibes from UD rn.
which am I?
an idiotic WW or stupid Mafia?
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1) it is a Swan referenceIn post 579, Espeonage wrote:
Well I'm sick of seeing people with duck in their username not being ducks so I am balancing the world.In post 576, UglyDuck wrote:also why does every game you seem to play end up in someone switching to a weird version of your avatar?
2) how in the hell is this not a cartoon duck?-
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green background, beady eyes, long beak... the only difference is you are looking the wrong direction and I am animated.In post 581, UglyDuck wrote:
1) it is a Swan referenceIn post 579, Espeonage wrote:
Well I'm sick of seeing people with duck in their username not being ducks so I am balancing the world.In post 576, UglyDuck wrote:also why does every game you seem to play end up in someone switching to a weird version of your avatar?
2) how in the hell is this not a cartoon duck?-
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In post 584, Espeonage wrote:
I honestly don't know or care which one you are. But I'll take this as confirmation that you are one.In post 580, UglyDuck wrote:
in what world are you reading me in any form as a "caught?"In post 578, Espeonage wrote:I'm getting some, "I've been caught but y'all shouldn't have caugth me because of OTHER PEOPLE" vibes from UD rn.
which am I?
an idiotic WW or stupid Mafia?
Why would either of those factions as me (or anyone for that matter) act in this way?
And because obfuscation, confusion, and lack of information are core pillars of how scum gets advantages over town.
yeah.. except the whole bit about how I presented this situation would in no way shape or form ever possibly give me an advantage if I were Mafia/WW.-
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I mean what happens in the "worst case scenario" for you. I vote you without reason, you get lynched... then what? People.... don't find that skummy? your reasoning does not parse.In post 587, UglyDuck wrote:In post 584, Espeonage wrote:
I honestly don't know or care which one you are. But I'll take this as confirmation that you are one.In post 580, UglyDuck wrote:
in what world are you reading me in any form as a "caught?"In post 578, Espeonage wrote:I'm getting some, "I've been caught but y'all shouldn't have caugth me because of OTHER PEOPLE" vibes from UD rn.
which am I?
an idiotic WW or stupid Mafia?
Why would either of those factions as me (or anyone for that matter) act in this way?
And because obfuscation, confusion, and lack of information are core pillars of how scum gets advantages over town.
yeah.. except the whole bit about how I presented this situation would in no way shape or form ever possibly give me an advantage if I were Mafia/WW.-
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In post 769, Espeonage wrote:Basically everyone trying to say that WW and mafia are different is bad.
Probably scum, but also hella bad.
i mean... no, that is wrong?
WW can kill and Mafia can't.
Yeah we need to get rid of all of them, but as the set up is 7-3-2... why would you not prefer to get rid of the two that can kill. Like for real - best case awesome world = we lynch WW, and WW kills Mafia, and then we lynch other WW... because the only shit left is lynches and all of a sudden we are up 7-2 on day 3. Obv that is an exaggerated point, put you can feel free to scale it down accordingly. the point that Town is born with the upper hand if there are no NKs to be had is simply a fact.-
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Is this you pointing out there is a seer or calling them a seer?In post 683, Sando wrote:
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERIn post 681, Fumuki wrote:WEREWOLVES, KILL, MAFIA, FIRST.
THERE'S NO ARGUING ABOUT IT. IF THEY KILL TOWN IT'S A MAFIA WIN FOR SURE.
on one hand you have a point to the extent that we should lynch "any skum" over "any town", but again, obviously we would prefer to lynch WW over Mafia.In post 682, Sando wrote:
So we lynch scum, who's gonna care more about which faction we hit within scum, the faction that ain't scum, or one of the scum factions?In post 676, Fumuki wrote:PLUS, WHY ARE YOU SAYING THAT TOWN SHOULDN'T CARE ABOUT WHAT FACTION THEY LYNCH?
Like...this one is pretty clear cut here.-
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that's not the point. I agree that killing any skum is better than picking one faction and saying "we won't look for the other we just want to lynch this one". But that is not how it works. We look for skum - that happens, no matter frickin what. The issue is that people are stating that there is no upside to lynching WW over Mafia, which is just nonsense.In post 777, Espeonage wrote:Bc killing any sort of scum matters so much more.-
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Can't really take offense to that. My skum game was freeking awful.In post 915, pinturicchio wrote:
My problem with AP is that in our last game it seemed like he didn't care that much, and he was town there. I agree that his posts have been townie, but I don't know, he's pretty unsortable to me, seems like he can't be metaread at all. I really want to townread tho, our group would be a lot more shagadelic baby!In post 905, Sando wrote:
APs posts seems generally townie, maybe only deserves "not todays lynched", but yeah...not todays lynchIn post 895, pinturicchio wrote:What's not so great is that our reads are not matching: don't really care about scumreads, but your townreads are weird: why AP and Fumu?
My townreads at this moment are Sando, skitter, UD and myself, so hit me up to see who wants to be which Beatle (I know I know, but someone has to be Ringo). MWNN is Brian Epstein and I'm looking for our George Martin. It's pretty obvious that the Seer will be Ravi Shankar when confirmed.
Fumu due to our 1v1, feels like Quick tbh, but def feels TvT. I'd say almost 100% not wolf due to sheer audacity though.
Why UD in townteam?!
UD is pretty easy to read when you have already played with him. Even him being scumread by many makes me believe even more that he's town, since I scumread in our first two games together and he was town in both, but he do plays scummy. But when he was indeed scum, in our third game together, it was like "oooooh so this is what scum!UD looks like".-
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