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i mean ur more than welcome not to answer it if you likeIn post 1382, the worst wrote:
yeah I can't elaborate on it yet sorry. gonna have to live with that for the time being.In post 1377, skitter30 wrote:I mean ur the one who called it lynchmobby; its kinda incongruous of you to say that you can't elaborate on it
Given that the people who are willing to lynch enigma today lines up pretty much exactly with the people I'm ok with lynching, i do not think i will support an enigma wagon at this time
i really really don't want to lynch you today and i'm trying very hard to figure out what you're thinking to see some sort of towniness from you so that i can avoid doing that but you're making it kinda hard-
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eh i was going to follow up by saying that if you just wanted to evade you should just tell me so that we don't have to go through the motions of playing 20 questionsIn post 1413, the worst wrote:my blatant refusal to elaborate shld probably be telling lmao I'd say focus on my other reads today fwiw-
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ye sorry, wasn't trying to badger you; when i realized u weren't going to answer in a way that i found useful i realized t'would be a good time to stopIn post 1416, the worst wrote:
can't play 20 questions. I just dislike the wagons atmIn post 1415, skitter30 wrote:
eh i was going to follow up by saying that if you just wanted to evade you should just tell me so that we don't have to go through the motions of playing 20 questionsIn post 1413, the worst wrote:my blatant refusal to elaborate shld probably be telling lmao I'd say focus on my other reads today fwiw
still going to vote you tho, sorry-
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yeah sorry
scum - was scumreading sky + anti-mindmelding (we gel very well as tvt) + i have no idea what he's thinking despite him having a lot of posts + he's being evasive + his reads progressions are coming out of nowhere + just hasn't seemed town + trying to scumread me here is bad
source: american presidents mafia (+ watching me play scum in the open that just ended)-
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are u trying to say that you can't talk about gamma right now in particular? (i'm guessing for ongoing game reasons?) i thought u were indicating that in general u didn't want to talk about ur reads and gamma was a specific example of a general phenomenon; like i feel like i've been trying to get you to engage and you've just been kinda evasive and eh-y and just very underwhelming and it reminds me a lot of american presidents mafia when i spent like a month trying to get u to engage before the gunsmith fiasco; like realizing you had over 100 posts but i didn't know what ur reads doesn't make me think i'm talking to a town duckling here
i'm still very flummoxed by ur enigma read; like i feel like it came out of nowhere really
i'm not trying to be lazy and i'm trying very hard to engage with u to try to find reasons to townread u and i just feel like ur being evasive kinda
i don't know where else to lynch right now
not lynching today: vex, a50, ruru, enigma, creature obvs
i think ur scummy
notmafia is literally what vigs are for imo; if there isn't one i will insist that he be pl'd before lylo especially since his slot has scum equity from before him
bujaber is kinda passively scummy but not actively; i'd be ok lynching there but it isn't optimal
hws i'm entirely ambivalent on
frank was bad; ejji is ok and i think he's redeemed the slot enough for today
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like i mean i don't know if a vig exists but like that's literally the point of a vig imo; to shoot nm if it existsIn post 1425, the worst wrote:NM withiut posting content is indeed vig material but he's actually sitting in a scummy slot as is. I don't see a reason not to just lynch the fuck out of that and then IF a vig exists they can shoot slowly up the realist. like there's no reason to lynch anywhere but obvscum and the vig should just blast into the lynchpool if it exists so idk why you're not keen on lynching that slot
i guess i can lynch there but that feels kinda underwhelming after this super super long day but the slot feels kinda scummy from mwnn and cj flaking both; i don't think i would lynch it just for being nm but coupled with brass and cj i guess that owuldn't be too bad
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can u do a tiered list for me?
i feel kinda the same way about a hws vig as u do a hws lynch; i feel like that's kinda underwhelming and just like an easy shot if that makes sense; i don't really scumread him actively, more passively
frank was in the very very lowest slot; i usually only have 7 tiers but i didn't feel like i could adequately get the nuance across so here i have 9
also i think this day kinda needs to end; i feel like a lot of the people i want to be talking to now have run outo f energy-
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In post 1454, BuJaber wrote:
Why not?In post 1452, skitter30 wrote:bleh that's an icky wagon too; i hadn't realized
i don't know where i want to vote right now
That's really too much hesitation for a day 1 lynch. You have scumreads. It's not like you're null on everyone. You either vote for one of them or sheep your townreads if you must.In post 1428, skitter30 wrote:{creature}
{a50, vex}
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{ruru, enigma}
{} - null
{bujaber, hws}
{nm}
{gamma, ejji, you} * ejji b/c of frank; don't want to lynch ejji today
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kinda like this
my one completed game with her did end but i was scum and it's hard for me to meta someone when my only game with them i was scum; i don't pick up on things the same way from that side of thingsIn post 122, skitter30 wrote:i don't have solid sky meta that i can talk about right now
no, i wouldn't really pl a miller claim by virtue of being a miller. if they were behaving scummy i'd lynch them but that's kinda independant of being a millerIn post 1457, BuJaber wrote:Actually I have to ask a general question first to determine type of player you are.
Are you for or against PL'ing miller claims?
I'm for it if you can't tell.
It's why sometimes I'm able to place someone in or out of my scumpool based on if I think they have a chance at endgaming or not. This is normally more applicable when someone actually claims a role, but I think it can be applied here also for sky/tw. Also to some extent to NM. Like some have said he's a good vig target but even if there isn't a vig that slot is likely to get PL'd sooner or later and is therefore not a priority to lynch now.
idk i think i dislike a gamma vote the least right now but i'll probably vote elsewhere if necessary to prevent a no-lynch
p-edit i'm an idiot; no i didn't pick up on that; i think tw was being hesitatnt cuz of an ongoing game thing; i was very confused
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i mean, 5 replacements, and he's due to be replaced in 6 hours; we haven't had super much luck with replacements producing readable content in reasonable periods of time
mwnn -> cj -> nm
anti -> bujaber who took like half a week to catchup
frank -> ejji who isn't caught up
sky -> tw who feels incredibly underwhelmed with the gamestate
i'm not super confident we'll get someone who'll give useable content in 48 hours and i feel like we've reached the point that we kinda need to move on given how apathetic everyone is-
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well my point is that it took you more than 48 hours and that someone knew replacing in would prob require time tooIn post 1477, BuJaber wrote:
4 days. It only feels longer because I do my catchup all in one go.In post 1469, skitter30 wrote:anti -> bujaber who took like half a week to catchup
Ftr I got the part where you don't want to vote for gamma because you scumread his wagon composition my question was why are you having difficulty voting someone when you have this many scumreads.
I guess you won't relate to my sky argument then if you don't PL millers as a rule.
i think i talked about all the wagons; none of them feel quite right; i think voting tw feels not-super-wrong
my gut's telling me that you're scum tho :/In post 1492, the worst wrote:
it does if someone is starting to kinda realising on a subconscious level that this isn't scum!ducky and you're twisting their arm back into lynching me.In post 1475, ruru wrote:that's personal bias and has nothing to do with winning the game
the main reason I'm netting skitter above the null line rn is the actual parallels she's drawing between me and other games. I think she's actually thought about this. she's just wrong and a part of me is pretty sure she realises to some degree that she's wrong.
you also clearly don't know Skyg's scum meta lmao
and the fact that the best parallel is american presidents is worrying me
(aside thinking about it shouldn't be a tell either way for me? i dont' half ass things as scum or try to bluster my way through things)
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i do hope u have a nice vla thoIn post 1498, the worst wrote:not before I'm lynched
I'm actually v/la over the weekend but won't qnnounce it because you fucks are mislynching me anyway-
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my reference is american presidents mafia; i'd point to a particular post but he was pulling it a lot to avoid talking to people
oh here's an example: viewtopic.php?p=10325903#p10325903-
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sorry, i didn't realize what that post was a followup to till this postIn post 1519, the worst wrote:sorry skitter, that was in response to you clarifying whether I thought you had +scum equity for your read on my slot. the answer is no, it seems believable as genuine
@ruru, probably
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you know, for someone who isn't voting 19 hours to deadline and who's been discussed as a lynch option multiple times today, i don't particularly think you get to object to an nm lynchIn post 1523, Gamma Emerald wrote:We all agree we’re trying to lynch people whose scumflip can give meaningful associations right? So why NM?-
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lmao that's a weird nk; i didn't really think creature was going to die tbh with how he's been playing this game (creature this means that you need to start playing the game) i'm guessing somebody thought he was a pr or something from the vig/tracker business early on; his final reads might be worth looking at; tbh i was half-expecting to be nk'd
i'm really happy tw wasn't shot last night; since me/ruru were pushing for a tw vig;
i didn't really have much confidence on not_mafia was flipping scum; it was a compromise vote for me on someone i was nullscum on close to deadline; after the flip i'm feeling better about tw given that he repped in and immediately voted cj and was pushing him throughout the day and i wouldn't have wanted him to be vigged after that
i'm guessing that there isn't a vig
if we're doing the hypo-inno thing i hypo-inno alonzo/hws-
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also this is :/ and feels kinda bussy/partner-y/wanting to make sure i'm on the partner's wagon especially since he's saying eh doesn't really have a strong read on himIn post 1555, ejjinami wrote:Ehh, I have stuff to post, but it's mostly unreadable cuz I haven’t edited it yet
Page 19 and have to go in a sec, so I’ll vote now
VOTE: NM
that's not actually a bad lynch. I don't really have a good grasp of cee's meta, but there isn't anything in his ISO that would make me change my mind about his slot.
From what I've seen, increased care for saying his opinions should be scum indicative for cee, but he seemed to be in a catchup-mode most of the time, so idrk if I should be even reading that...
I don't really have a strong read on him
I think I was also the only SR in his read-list and I think it's kinda funny, but idk if that's even AI for him
still, not a bad lynch imo... and his wagon still looks really pure :/
If I manage to come back today before EoD, I’ll post a catchup and if not, I guess I’ll do it d2
Cuz I really doubt I’ll get killed with that many people SRing me
i'm going to start here i think
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oh i hadn't thought about that but yeah this could be a thingIn post 1567, Enigma wrote:Well initial thoughts are ruru is town based on the last minute unvote.
Interesting turn of night events.No vig maybe, unless duck is BP/traitor (but don't claim vig if so). Also feel like with the NK target, scum were TPR hunting so we could expect they picked a few modifiers?-
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i mean this was a thing even and he could have been pushed on this? i'm just confused overallIn post 1466, Almost50 wrote:
Maybe you missed it or you didn't take me seriously, but I'm most serious when I say I do NOT lynch N_M regardless of both our alignments. I don't even shoot the guy when I'm scum and he's town if I had a say on it. The one time I remember we shot him it wasn't my call and I argued against it in the scum PT.In post 1464, ruru wrote:also the strength of my hws scumread is less than the strength of your ceejay scumread so probably we should just lynch nm
Now I know it's unreasonable and borders on throwing, but the good news is I won't oppose it or fight or back. I just won't actively vote N_M myself.-
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i'm still not super solid on town!tw despite being on cj tbh; the apathy/tone still feel not like town to me; but pushing the scumflip was enough to make me not want him vigged
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1331 doens't really feel not-partner-y; it's not like he jumped on that wagon or anything; it feels lip-service-y without actually doing anything about it
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why were you going to deathtunnel him? ie why were you scumreading him?In post 1595, Alonzo wrote:I'm town, I was gonna deathtunnel A50 today, so I need to re read and come up with a plan B
wasn't asking a question, more noting that i know if you necessarily think about your posting in terms of '95% of the time it does nothing and just makes him look bad' (1593)In post 1597, Gamma Emerald wrote:Hypo-inno ruru
Idk what skitter is asking about what I think of my posts
1. i've seen you rep into slots that you knew were scumslots before (cough american presidents cough)In post 1598, the worst wrote:
ok so you literally witnessed what happened the last time I tried to bus so please tell me you actually think IIn post 1587, ruru wrote:I think tw's play has been results-oriented in a tmi way: he expects to deliver us a redflip and then not die as a result, without really scumhunting or doing anything else towny
*clears throat*
> rep'd into a scumslot
> decided to expose scum!cjv for towncred (?) when he'd just been dropped into his usual "too hard to read" bin
> cjv then spewed antiassociatives and then flaked from the game because.....?? he didn't like my bus strategy? waht
> I suddenly got really really good at bussing and changed my bussing ethos dramatically
like this conclusion is so vague andhas nearly no thought behind it.I'd feel better if you jumped into the thread with a fucking fake guilty. seriously. stop tunnelling me and pay attention to the fact cjv and I were obviously not scum together.
actually fuck it this could be scum. will revisit later
hypo inno Bujaber
2. cj didn't flake from this game specifically; he posted nowhere on site for like three days; i checked when he got replaced
3. what's your bussing ehtos?
4. bolded - i dislike that you characterize her post this way; i think she def put thought into it; it feels like overinflated rhetoric to discredit her-
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actually as town i'm very aware of what my associatives are with flipped players; it's not something i have to go reread to get a feel for most of the timeIn post 1606, ruru wrote:
for that matter this, as a first reaction (8 minutes after your previous post on a different topic) feels scummy alsoIn post 1598, the worst wrote:> cjv then spewed antiassociatives and then flaked from the game because.....?? he didn't like my bus strategy? waht
if you asked me whether I'm a viable ceejay partner or if he spewed antiassociatives with me I'd have to go reread the game because I'm town and I don't read my own associatives with dead scum
eh, fair; you hard-defended her day1 and then came up with ridiculous me/nauci/mom associative day2 and it was ... not a clean bus to say the leastIn post 1610, the worst wrote:this is tricky bc I play with friends a lot but American presidents mafia I avoided the Mom wagon as long as I could without basically claiming her partner. open 733 I dug my heels in and flatly refused to bus (only thing we did was d3 distancing between myself/ircher). can't think of anything else to talk about rn but I'm ~80% anti bus and generally fairly bad at it.
like i get what you're saying but your outrage here feels kinda over-the-top-y and not entirely real; it feels kinda like faked outrageIn post 1610, the worst wrote:4. sure, that was somewhat exaggerated and rhetorical from me. but fmpov it's frustrating that she's only seeing points which paint me in a bad light. it's like she's processing enough to have a scumread on me but not stopping to check herself. I know ruru is a damn good player which is why I'm tearing my feathers out.
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i don't think that scum!you is a small possibility; i don't think that your'e scum as strongly as ruru does but i do think it's a possibility worth consideringIn post 1613, the worst wrote:if you keep tunnelling small possibilities were not gonna get anywhere. I'm objectively more likely to be town than scum here by both play and meta and your insisting I cOuLd Be TeH sCuMz is doing like nothing but frustrating me and clogging up the thread
like i think it's easy to be confident cj slot was flipping scum if you know that he's scum if that makes sense
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so basically because he was going to not-vote nm? because i was kinda thinking that a replacement coming in saying they were going to death-tunnel the dead player could be a way for scum!you to try to feign surrpise as his death, especially since this doesn't seem like a super strong reason to meIn post 1625, Alonzo wrote:
Just reading the thread through a couple of posts jumped out, namely his sky TR.In post 1602, skitter30 wrote:why were you going to deathtunnel him? ie why were you scumreading him?
But you know... near end of the day.. that post on NM.. you know my policy!!
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yeah i think he may have hopped on as a partner for the towncred, knowing it would flip redIn post 1635, ruru wrote:giving awkward reasons for a survivalistic deadline hammer on scum is towny fmpov: town are afraid if it flips green they'll be next, whereas scum know it will flip red
it's not a very good vote and it reads partnery to me
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alonzo since you've read the whole game can you give some sort of readslist?In post 1650, Alonzo wrote:I thought u were an Invisibility Alt FTR!
actually i shall start a new post at this point-
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i've seen him say this as both alignments; it's literally nai for himIn post 1661, Alonzo wrote:@VV
I have a strict Lynch NM policy. A50 unvoting NM and saying I never vote NM is THE singlemost scummy post I think I 'have ever seen. Probably best he's dead, I would have dragged this game waaaay down by now =)
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!remind meIn post 1663, BuJaber wrote:
Well you're both wrong then lmaoIn post 1661, Alonzo wrote:@VV
I have a strict Lynch NM policy. A50 unvoting NM and saying I never vote NM is THE singlemost scummy post I think I 'have ever seen. Probably best he's dead, I would have dragged this game waaaay down by now =)
Why have a blanket policy onplayer?
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more of the outrage-that-feels-fake thingIn post 1667, the worst wrote:
because you have different wincons?In post 1665, Vex Vience wrote:enigma posted it before i did, and we basically said the same thing.
how is it that one person can say it, and its scummy, and another can, and its perfectly fine?
like if scum and town said different things all the time this game would be very boring
this reads as more intolerant of other playstyles/stances than actually thinking and forming a logical opinion. why the fuck does two people saying a similar thing with different trajectories and different styles mean that they must be the same alignment?
like your reactions to like everything feel very extreme?
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i really see nothing to townread gamma for; nor do i think his interactions with scum are remotely clearing; he's def still in my lynchpoolIn post 1672, ruru wrote:I don't really consider gamma's interactions clearing either for the record, I just think they're less likely to come from a partner and I already have a weak tr on gamma
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eh this is low-key townie maybe? not sure. one good post tho isn't a super awesome reason to townread someone thoIn post 1678, Gamma Emerald wrote:I don’t see how this equals me forgetting who’s in the same slot
Was ceejay interacting with the other slots in a meaningful way?
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sheer wordcount + mindmelding + being the towniest town to town early game
i don't know his scum meta
why do you describe his posts this way?
wait clarify?In post 1683, the worst wrote:like I can't be stuffed trying to dig thru his ISO but a lot of his posts are garbo
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see that's what's giving me pause, theres nothing too gross and agendaey his ISO is just a mess. like he's posting a LOT of useless stuffIn post 1688, Alonzo wrote:See anything in Vexys Iso worth a SR?
why are you voting him here ... ?
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subliminal messaging attempting to misdirect/confuse people; it's like the sort of thing that comes up in conspiracies; think illuminati and all that fun stuffIn post 1704, Gamma Emerald wrote:wtf is a fnord
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yeah idk if scum!you is so persistant in rebutting people; the projected confidence/outrage is still bothering me tho; it doesn't feel real to meIn post 1706, the worst wrote:@skitter30, respect your angle.
FYI if I am lynched here I do want a minute of silence for how fucking well I read that slot given brassherald is the readable one in it and he flaked out but yeah the projected confidence prolly didn't do me any favours
I thought my engagement with ruru just now was one of the more real reactions I've had to a read in quite a long time but eh
idk you're not my top priority right now; i want to sort ejji and he should be off of v/la soon
don't really get the enigma scumreads either tbh
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yeah like it was easy for me to bus vizzy in tw's open because i knew he was scum and flipping red so i positioned myself around that; i don't know if i would have been nearly as confident as townIn post 1707, BuJaber wrote:
Slam dunkIn post 1705, skitter30 wrote:like i think it's easy to be confident cj slot was flipping scum if you know that he's scum if that makes sense
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i got that 'YEAH DAMN RIGHT' vibe a lot early gameIn post 1712, the worst wrote:I'm probably taking your word for Vex being town a little here. he's low on my priorities anyway tbqh but i haven't read any posts of his and felt like "YEAH DAMN RIGHT" yet
Tbf I've skipped a lot of his posts
it seems like there's a lot of fluffy stuff and I'm getting a kinda self important/lotta clout energy but also like non nuanced 1 dimensional reads but i guess that's pretty consistent with his town meta so *shrugs*
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might be ok with gamma, but enigma i still think is town; he has this like ... guileless quality to his posts that i townreadIn post 1716, the worst wrote:ya nah that's fair, scumflip after a long ass d1 makes d2 ironically pretty exhausting
you're fine just bad timing for me to try and re-read you
happy w Gamma or Enigma today
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a50 was incredibly obvtown despite some peope's misgivings; what does the fact that that hws was not the only person sus of a50 have to do with anything or enigma's read on youIn post 1724, Alonzo wrote:HWS was TOWNY AF
A50... mostly clown shoes..
Hws suspicion was well founded despite what you say captain hindsight. Also Im pretty sure HWS wasn't the only one sus of A50...
have you ever played with a50 before?
please describe how hws was towny af
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uh this is a p1 rvs post that i read as mostly nai; i don't think this qualifies as 'townie af'In post 1727, Alonzo wrote:
mic dropIn post 10, HeWhoSwims wrote:Hi I'm here to ensure scum ain't got nothing on town-
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this is an icky wagonIn post 1740, ofrhz wrote:Gamma Emerald (4): Creature, Bujaber, Alonzo, the worst (L-2)-
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the wagon comp is bad; three of the five people i don't townread are on it; and a fourth is the person the wagon is on; and the fifth is the person i'm votingIn post 1745, BuJaber wrote:
And that makes sense to you?In post 1743, skitter30 wrote:the people i townread are: vex, ruru, enigma, creature
the people i don't are: buj, alonzo, tw, ge, ejji
and three of them are on that wagon
We know there's a traitor and a groupscum left alive.
You have to ask yourself if both could be on gamma in only 4 votes or if one of them is bussing the other (gamma) in only 4 votes.
If the answer is no to both of those then ejj should either be confirmed scum to you or you know for a fact you are townreading scum.
i'm not really following your logic, sorry
i don't know if both scum are on it, nor do i know if gamma is scum. i do know htat i dont' really townread the wagon comp; if both are on it than gamma is town but i don't know that obviously
also we don't know if a traitor is alive; they could have been made into groupscum
i don't know if i'm townreading scum; i do know that i'm scumreading town and i'm therefore trying to sort that group-
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that's not why i arrived at that list, you're right. i'm noting that people i don't townread are on that wagon. that doesn't mean i townread gamma, but rather am kinda skeptical of the wagon that is on him. the gamestate is loosely pointing to town!gamma, yes, but that doesn't mean i townread him; those aren't the same thing to meIn post 1747, BuJaber wrote:I know you didn't claim to arrive at that pool because we're voting for gamma, so that's what makes it strange. If it were for that reason it'd be natural to get the playerlist divide that you ended up with. But you seemed to end up with it completely independently and I guess I found it a weird coincidence and I don't trust coincidences in a game of reads, human intrraction, and deception.
If I trust my townread on you then the logical conclusion is that you are being fooled by one or more of your townreads.Or I am wrong about you and this is a result of you unable to keep up with your lies and fake reads to keep them aligned/consistent. I'd rather play with the assumption that I'm right since it's easier and better for my ego.
i think we view this very differently; i'm still not really following the bolded; to me a logical conclusion is that i'm scumreading town, not that i'm townreading scum? i don't get why that follows from the above discussion
or you can look at the a50 wagon from day1; i called it out several times because the wagon comp was gross; i also independently townread him but it wasn't *because* of the wagon
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uh i can't talk about one of those for *reasons*In post 1753, Alonzo wrote:@Skitter
We just played together for a month or more... why cant you sort me correctly here?
and for the micro i didn't townread you at any point and day1 the wagon on you was bad so i tried to not-compromise lynch you until we decided on someone else; and day2 gut-avoided your wagon because it was bothering me
the closest i got to townreading you was gut + disliking wagon comp on you
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i understand what you mean about the replacements, but given that you repeatedly stated that your meta as scum is to lurk ... i'm beginning ot lose my townread on you given that you haven't posted much of substance in like two weeksIn post 1801, Vex Vience wrote:VOTE: alonzo
i've really only stalled out because of the sheer number of replacements
tbh, its kinda making me not wanna play only because by the time i start to actually read someone, they've replaced out, meaning that most of my reads have to get scrapped because the new player plays entirely differently
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In post 1803, BuJaber wrote:Post 288. Aug 30th.
This game started Aug 24th.
Unless skitter is playing 4D chess......
She's town here.
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i mean i was trying to keep the townread until i killed herIn post 1805, ruru wrote:skitter's posts in that pt aresuperpockety
skygazer should have been paranoid here
I would expect something, anything other than a couple of questions and then "skitter feels town"
but i hadn't thought about how easily she gave me a townread her really; yeah that's a bit odd
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this is a weird thing to say given that you replaced sky ...In post 1808, the worst wrote:in this game in particular, that skyg didn't put a lot of effort into sorting skitter and that people should be checking themselves for half assed reads on skitter
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i have returned! i did not have internet access for like two days!
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gamma feels off
i'm also beginning to wonder if he might just be lynchbait given that all the sketchy people are pushing him
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i don't like this postIn post 1872, the worst wrote:Ohhhhhh self meta
guess Alonzo is locktown now
can you throw some instances of you using selfmeta as both town and scum to me pls?
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i literally have no idea what you're thinking about the game
given that we're towards the end of day2 and you've been in the game the whole time, i am finding this problematic
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he was hilariously obvtown earlygameIn post 1892, the worst wrote:actually @skitter we should jam about Vex when I have time to dive his ISO if you'd be cool w that
the less he posts the more i'm losing the read
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i mean you're at l2 right now and not doing anything ...In post 1900, Gamma Emerald wrote:@skitter that’s probably because idk what to think either
The only think keeping me from replacing out is me being dedicated to see this game through
I honestly wouldn’t mind being lynched but I still won’t take it lying down
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i mean i think this thought process makes sense; what's bothering me about what you said is that you said this is something you were sitting on for a while ... this is a weird thing to be sitting on about your predIn post 1898, the worst wrote:I was a little confused about it early game but tbh I figured that Sky took a similar approach to me (she would have been aware you were scum in pypx/y since the beginning of this game I'm pretty sure tho I didn't double check the timeline) -- even tho I'm not 100% sure I can sort you, it's actually quite a lot easier assuming you're down then working with you + sorting once you have more content and are submerged in the spiritual flow of the game
if that makes sense
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In post 1913, BuJaber wrote:
This line was funny to me. Sounds like it's from a cheesy old mafia movie.In post 1908, skitter30 wrote:if being at l1 would make you more motivated that could definitely be arranged
TW: were you reading the game at all before replacing in?
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yeah i was thinking about that game a bitIn post 1922, the worst wrote:ArcAngel's Jungle Republic is an ok show of me being this way as town but I hammed it up a lot
yeah *hammy* is a good word; this game doesn't really feel the same as that one to me tho; i'd have to go back and like reread that one to remember why exactly
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uh american presidents mafiaIn post 1923, ruru wrote:I'm asking about the opposite of bussing meta: games where you forced through scum agenda and got yourself lynched to set up your teammates to endgame
he let his partner bus him day3 and the partner rode it to like mylo
i don't really see him doing that here tho?
i'm not sure what it's indicative of that he isn't brining this up
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what is WIM?In post 1945, the worst wrote:yeah I know but also
:/
ok ejji could easily be scum. quick WIM on the catch up is super easy to fake. he's lurking during the bit where the game needs a fire lit under it. scum motive is p clear there
GEm doesn't feel right lmaoo
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i mean i'm still mildly townreading enigma and you're the person i want lynched sooooIn post 1960, Irrelephant11 wrote:If anyone wants my vote elsewhere do these two things:
summarize a towncase on enigma
summarize a scumcase on whoever you want lynched
If that doesn't happen, you'll have to wait for me to catch up more.
(literally the only reason why i'm not voting you right now is that the slot was empty for like a week)
enigma i'm kinda lightly townreading on tone + he seems to be the lynch target of multiple people i'm scumreading which makes me wary
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we should be lynchign scummy people, not people who haven't towntold; those aren't the same thingIn post 1967, Irrelephant11 wrote:-Just because it's not scummy of enigma to do the things laid out in 1157 doesn't mean it's towny of him
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i mean it was partially a compromise deadline lynch, at least for meIn post 1973, ruru wrote:ceejay only got lynched because a50 was also hard scumreading him and he was like universally nullscumread and I thought his reaction to tw's scumread was also scummy
a50 wasn't ever going to vote nm either i'm pretty sure-
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enigma is some combo of gut/tone/good timing of posts that i dont' think i can explain better + most of the below-null camp have been pushing him and like none of the above-null camp have been
tw used to be my biggest scumread so i'm making progress; still don't feel like i can confidentally townread him but it isn't nearly strong of a scumread as it has been previously
and sure
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ok i'll start with hws since that's who alonzo replaced
i'm still a little dubious that he voted gamma over frank here (you ultimately replaced frank) given that iirc there were already votes on both frank and vexIn post 234, HeWhoSwims wrote:No big fan of Frank either for the same reasons as Gemerald/Vex
VOTE: Gamma emerald let's do this for now I think!
but i also thoguth this was a reasonable explanationIn post 257, HeWhoSwims wrote:Ruru why would it be expected town behaviour to copy your vote which iirc was the only one on the wagon
actually rereading this i'm not sure why he's assuming that there's a bp goon ('the' bp goon) and why he isn't assuming he might be a traitor or somethingIn post 497, HeWhoSwims wrote:I'm catching up in the middle of the vig talk and don't see why scum A51 would want to gambit bait the vig shot... As either alignment? I feel the only way to resolve this is shooting him and if he doesn't die he's theBP goon?Or is tired!hws being dumb here
and then he basically flaked and replaced and idk if that's ai for him
this is still bothering me; it makes me feel like he was trying to act surprised about a50 being dead; and that it took him a fairly long time to come up with like reads on anybody elseIn post 1595, Alonzo wrote:I'm town, I was gonna deathtunnel A50 today, so I need to re read and come up with a plan B
although i kinda believe this from the snakes and noodles game we just finished; he death-unneled nm throughout and i think he was scummy pushing a policy lynch but eventaually read a newbie where he did just that as town and realized that it's just a thing he very very strongly believes inIn post 1661, Alonzo wrote:@VV
I have a strict Lynch NM policy. A50 unvoting NM and saying I never vote NM is THE singlemost scummy post I think I 'have ever seen. Probably best he's dead, I would have dragged this game waaaay down by now =)
i'm also dubious about the gamma wagon in that the people i don't townread are voting himIn post 1703, Alonzo wrote:L-1?
still uncertain that he labeled hws as being 'townie af'In post 1724, Alonzo wrote:HWS was TOWNY AF
A50... mostly clown shoes..
Hws suspicion was well founded despite what you say captain hindsight. Also Im pretty sure HWS wasn't the only one sus of A50...
not sure why he's saying i said he/ejji is a team given that i didn't say thatIn post 1779, Alonzo wrote:
Boredom vote?In post 1776, skitter30 wrote:why has this game stalled .... ?
i have like nothing new to say
sure, let's see what happens if i vote VOTE: alonzo
How are me and Ejji a team here skitter?
i can kinda buy that he didn't have a read on me right awayIn post 1810, Alonzo wrote:Ok, I have reads on all slot sbut Skitter who will get their own post at a later time (cos meta)
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i don't especially scumread bujaber, but i'm not particularly against wagoning him to see if that'll help move the game out of this complacent/stagnating state tbh; my alonzo vote didn't really accomplish anything
VOTE: bujaber
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oh lol; i'd not heard that expression beforeIn post 1997, the worst wrote:
Wants It MoreIn post 1976, skitter30 wrote:what is WIM?
like the burning urge to win the game that radiates from some people's posts
very often confused for towniness
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yes but i'm not wrong on like half of them i'm pretty sure and i'm having a lot of trouble identifying which half is which and i don't like to be on wagons that scum is pushingIn post 1999, the worst wrote:
ok but you're literally wrong on more than half of those reads. statistically. it's just seems weird you're avoiding players based on wagons when you're wrong on so many sub-null readsIn post 1989, skitter30 wrote:i'm also dubious about the gamma wagon in that the people i don't townread are voting him
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eh this is maybe kinda townieIn post 2004, Irrelephant11 wrote:this game is confusing me so maybe I'm the best course of action
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i don't like that hammer; it felt like he was trying to make sure he was on that wagon; it felt kinda rushed and like an undeveloped vote/readIn post 2006, the worst wrote:this feels fine imo-
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