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Awesome post on page one man.In post 19, MariaR wrote:
Found my mason partnerIn post 15, Cedrick wrote:VOTE: Maria
If you were a flower, you’d be a DAMNdelion
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Woman. Sorry lol.In post 23, Tchill13 wrote:
Awesome post on page one man.In post 19, MariaR wrote:
Found my mason partnerIn post 15, Cedrick wrote:VOTE: Maria
If you were a flower, you’d be a DAMNdelion
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The word Mason was mentioned early which may be of some use later in the game but is probably nothing to worry about at this point.In post 50, katherine wrote:
it was a joke then?In post 41, Tchill13 wrote:I like the reasoning but I wouldn't nail Katherine as scum based solely on that yet.-
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After I stop replying to KTS this is my stance on him throughout the game. I will ignore him after a point in order to play the game and focus on helping town. I'm not getting myself involved in a 1v1 that hurts town.In post 59, Tchill13 wrote:Yeah. You're the type of player where if I flip town I'm bad town but you're not gonna let up till I flip. You're gonna use anything I say to reinforce your case from one perspective or another.
Go ahead though it's all amusement for me.
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Tell me exactly why scum start such a thing day 1? There's no reason for it. The most efficient way for scum to play that helps them in the long run is minimal stances day 1.
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As long as it's civil. I just refuse to take part in a pissing contest that from my judgment hurts town more than it helps. I've never learned how to read "tone" and I think a lot of tone cases are a little biased because it seems easy to push whatever you want to believe from "tone". I really don't care for rvs or day one which is why you maybe getting odd vibes from my posting.In post 65, Killthestory wrote:engagement and adversity is the point on mafia, lol. it's not bad when we have a 1v1 thunderdome because it gives other players a chance to sort us and make opinions that in turn helps us sort them.
it becomes bad when you grow frustrated and the other player in turn. that's not the case, so i'd hope you'll continue talking to me because i'm genuinely trying to sort you, friend.-
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You think he's scum starting drama?In post 91, Cedrick wrote:
Welcome to Real World mafiascum. Where people stop being fake and start being real.In post 89, Killthestory wrote:i'd vote there if mumble wasn't almost certainly a wolf.
Basically all of the reads you have given are fake in attempt to stir up drama. Please stop-
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"almost always"?In post 73, Killthestory wrote:i understand, man, and i'm cognizant of that now that i realize you truly had no idea what you were doing (and i mean that in the nicest way possible) with no ulterior scum agenda. i would like to know still how much experience you have with mafia in general though because from your join date, i thought you'd have a lot more.
VOTE: Mumble
this almost always hits a wolf.
btw iirc mariar has played a game where we were both wolves, but that was a while ago.-
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If he was town he'd definitely believe his reads. No reason to give reads he doesn't believe them if he's town.In post 94, Cedrick wrote:Idk if he’s scum yet but I’m leaning that way. If he is town I don’t believe for a second he believes any of the reads he’s given.-
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What made it serious?In post 86, Creature wrote:My vote on implosion is now serious.-
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Early day one I'm down for any wagon that's not mine.In post 111, implosion wrote:
It's very beg-the-question-y, as though it would be reasonable to nail someone as scum off of a single point. It looks like scum hedging on either a scumbuddy or on a townie and not really sure if they want to risk joining the possibly-developing wagon.In post 110, katherine wrote:What about it? Should he be drawing the same conclusion as you..?-
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Very odd of you to defend/undermine me when I only have 2 votes on me. Are you that worried I'm gonna be lynched? Or do you NEED to get the point across that you believe I'm town and I'm terrible? Because if you want people to think I'm town because I'm terrible you don't want people listening to my reasoning. Why would you make sure that didn't happen?In post 207, Killthestory wrote:guys... i get you think tchill is scum, i saw that, too, but i think he's just an inexperienced townie. a lot of the stuff he says comes across as scummy, but i looked it over and realized the guy really doesn't know how to play mafia. pls don't lynch him.
also hi luca! didn't realize you were in this game. hi maria, too.
cedrick, luca, maria, creature, tchill, all v.
katherine, gamma slight v.
feeling implosion, mumble, ausoka as w.
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In post 218, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Well your play isn't very good anyway, plus I was arguing that you weren't inexperienced, not that you have a solid meta trend.In post 216, Tchill13 wrote:And I'm not claiming I'm terrible or inexperienced. Killthestory is claiming that. I'm claiming I'm semi experienced and decent.
@gamma I change my play up quite a bit. Just because I don't play the same way every time doesn't mean I'm scum.
well im definitely town and thanks lol.In post 219, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Well if you're town I'm gonna be looking at him like this because that sounds like scum devaluing your opinion in that case.In post 217, Tchill13 wrote:It's very obvious KTS wants to get the thought across that I'm not a good player and while I should be TR'd I probably shouldn't be listened to.
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oh gamma's taking multiple shots. i feel better now lol.In post 140, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Can we not excuse d1 quickhammersIn post 8, Havo wrote:Hello Hello Hello.
Before I RVS vote, let me introduce myself.
I’m a mediocre mafia player at best who really dislikes Day 1s.
I’ve been known to quick hammer peeps on Day 1 if it’s just a day or two
Into the game to get the game moving.
I’m generally quite active and polite. But I have been called terrible town, an idiot and a Liar.
As recently as my last game.
But I’m looking forward to a great game with this player list.
Just because you're terrible doesn't mean you get to bring everyone else down
Exactly what does calling people terrible accomplish again? Why not just play with that in mind in stead of making sure everyone knows you think X is trash at the game? Are you the king of mafia? because we need to work as a team instead of degrading multiple people before we get into the actual game.-
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had i layed down a meaningful vote it would have been between Mumble or katherine. I voted just to wagon. I haven't seen anything "scummy" from implosion yet.In post 223, Gamma Emerald wrote:Hm maybe so actually. Tchill why were you inconsistent with your treatment of mumble? You voted him and then said there was no reason to SR him. I understand you wanted to counterwagon but was there anything that made you want to vote them over say, Katherine or implosion?
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In post 23, Tchill13 wrote:
Awesome post on page one man.In post 19, MariaR wrote:
Found my mason partnerIn post 15, Cedrick wrote:VOTE: Maria
If you were a flower, you’d be a DAMNdelion
@havo why did you change your disclaimer from the last game?In post 24, Tchill13 wrote:
Woman. Sorry lol.In post 23, Tchill13 wrote:
Awesome post on page one man.In post 19, MariaR wrote:
Found my mason partnerIn post 15, Cedrick wrote:VOTE: Maria
If you were a flower, you’d be a DAMNdelion
@havo why did you change your disclaimer from the last game?
wouldn't you be a bit confused if someone was determined you were scum after 4 minimal posts? it also could have been sarcasm so i was "testing the waters" to see if it was a serious statement or not.In post 143, Gamma Emerald wrote:
this response by TChill kinda feels like he's confused but doesn't want to be like "whymefryme"In post 33, Tchill13 wrote:Well that's a bit aggressive.-
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i see aggressive, narrow minded pushes more so from town than scum. Idc that he went out of his way to state that he played like that. He was either trying to accomplish the fact that i realize he could still be scum or that he's trying to be transparent. His play style seems like he's a very confident. If he's such a confident player i believe he's actually trying to let me know he's that good as scum instead of trying to seem transparent for a TR.In post 146, Luca Blight wrote:
This is obviously BS, although I feel like he genuinely believes this.In post 69, Tchill13 wrote:Tell me exactly why scum start such a thing day 1? There's no reason for it. The most efficient way for scum to play that helps them in the long run is minimal stances day 1.
I don't like how settled Tchill is on this read - Kill even admitted he plays like that as either alignment, but Tchill maintains his hard townread on these shaky grounds.In post 74, Tchill13 wrote:Maybe so.
He's got a hard TR from me at the moment. That's really not anything to worry about seeing how it's not lylo atm.
I'd say hard-townreading someone based on faulty reasoning is a cause for concern no matter how far into the game we are.-
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i'm not going to because i wouldn't use meta to read me. I'm always trying to evolve my play for the better (i'm human and mess up though).In post 227, Killthestory wrote:so is no one gonna link a tchill towngame?-
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hey this guy gets it.In post 154, Cedrick wrote:
Why is it scummy? I’m inclined to believe it except I’ll go one further and say even a wagon on me would be fine. Wagons = pressure which = discussion which = game solving.In post 151, Luca Blight wrote:This is such a blatantly scummy thing to say-
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What's bad is i think its an accurate depiction of where im at as a player. I was hoping i'd never see it again thoughIn post 230, MariaR wrote:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=74256In post 227, Killthestory wrote:so is no one gonna link a tchill towngame?
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i'm not allowed to vote someone before post 100 without a serious case? I admitted i'm voting someone without a serious reason which is no different than voting someone in RVS. Why is it only scummy because i admitted it?In post 157, Gamma Emerald wrote:In post 108, Tchill13 wrote:I don't think there's enough reason to scum read mumble. I do appreciate activity but I feel like you're definitely trying to take control of the game and I also don't like how you pointed out you could be aggressive as scum also.VOTE: Tchill
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maria's looking pretty good too.In post 158, MariaR wrote:
This post is objectively false.In post 151, Luca Blight wrote:
I don't get your mindset here - you hard townread Kill because scum wouldn't be aggressive early D1, but then dislike Kill admitting he's aggressive as either alignment?In post 108, Tchill13 wrote:I don't think there's enough reason to scum read mumble. I do appreciate activity but I feel like you're definitely trying to take control of the game and I also don't like how you pointed out you could be aggressive as scum also.
Backwards reasoning.
This is such a blatantly scummy thing to say I'm almost thinking it's Town.In post 114, Tchill13 wrote:
Early day one I'm down for any wagon that's not mine.In post 111, implosion wrote:
It's very beg-the-question-y, as though it would be reasonable to nail someone as scum off of a single point. It looks like scum hedging on either a scumbuddy or on a townie and not really sure if they want to risk joining the possibly-developing wagon.In post 110, katherine wrote:What about it? Should he be drawing the same conclusion as you..?
It's not backwards reasoning because doing something andsayingsomething are 2 dif things. Acting one way is something admitting to it is something else and I think that's the case and point here.
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How is that scummy? It's just blunt and true. Sure it's not the most optimal town play but that doesn't mean it's scummy.
Like day 1 for me I fully expect to be suspected maybe even lynched so I might just "roll with the flow"
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I was hoping you would get scum vibes from gamma. I can't tell if he's town making an honest push or scum pushing LHF.In post 173, MariaR wrote:Gamma's prob town-
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"reading too much into something NAI." Luca is coming off as try hard town looking in the wrong places.In post 177, Luca Blight wrote:
This feels like fake sorting - reading too much into something NAI while drawing a vague conclusion -In post 48, MariaR wrote:idk how to take Havos change if he said it was before the game that would've made it now saying he did it while he was posting could mean self conscious scum but the tone so far feels like town who genuinely didn't want to fuck something up.
Whew sr and a tr so far Maria you are on fire
Pedit: I don't think you should give tips regardless and let us see the reaction"could be scum, could be town".-
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Anyone notice the aggressive push on me after i stated i town read KTS for his aggressive push?In post 183, Gamma Emerald wrote:
You're wrongIn post 170, Creature wrote:I'm townread ... Tchill for particular reasons.-
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i don't like ausuka voting Maria immediately after maria makes some pushes on ausuka.In post 192, Ausuka wrote:
Where is it supposed to come from? It's page 8. What he posted makes sense and appears to come from a town mindset.In post 189, MariaR wrote:
The Luca tr comes out of no whereIn post 168, Ausuka wrote:Luca Blight can also join the townclub. If there's scum on Tchill it's Gamma.
pedit:If we lynched Tchill and he flipped scum, I probably wouldn't townread KTS for it.Them being scumbuddies could explain him continuing to hard-townread KTS even after KTS himself dismissed his point, but that's kinda meh. He'd stay null.
...What I did was literally just townreading Luca. That's it. There's absolutely no reason why that means I'm scum here. Like maybe if you were scumreading me for not giving reasoning I could at least understand it. But what you're doing here just makes no sense at all.In post 189, MariaR wrote: "Oh look a towny who made a wall post that seems to have reasoning lets tr that"
... what. KTS isn't even voting Tchill. No, he doesn't get towncred because he pushed him for like a page at the start of a game.In post 189, MariaR wrote: The bolded is interesting cause the first thing that came to mind was "Partner with Tchill who knows he'll flip scum and is trying to not credit KTS"
I'm pretty happy voting this for now actually.
VOTE: MariaR-
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I'm not ignoring you. You're posts are not the most important every post. I'll get back to you.In post 264, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Nice of you to just ignore me when I call you on your shit Teech.In post 253, Gamma Emerald wrote:
No? You're twisting things now. I started pushing you when your inconsistency became very blatant.In post 239, Tchill13 wrote:
Anyone notice the aggressive push on me after i stated i town read KTS for his aggressive push?In post 183, Gamma Emerald wrote:
You're wrongIn post 170, Creature wrote:I'm townread ... Tchill for particular reasons.-
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This is exactly what I expected. You pick and choose the information to fit your narrative at all times. Just admitted to not looking at the whole thing in context. Which I assume is how you play to push you're agenda. I feel that you're agenda is superior town but I'm not one hundred percent sure.In post 263, Killthestory wrote:don't need to push you, and didn't need to read the entire game.-
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Am I wrong? My read on you is pretty simple. I believe you're town because I see this "superiority complex" comp from town more often than scum. In sure you are better than me at the game. You're wrong about your read on me though and you only pick and choose certain parts that fit your agenda. I'm not gonna ask you to look at the whole context I can't make you but I will point out the fact you can only laugh at me instead of dispute my point.In post 284, Killthestory wrote:
lolIn post 281, Tchill13 wrote:
This is exactly what I expected. You pick and choose the information to fit your narrative at all times. Just admitted to not looking at the whole thing in context. Which I assume is how you play to push you're agenda. I feel that you're agenda is superior town but I'm not one hundred percent sure.In post 263, Killthestory wrote:don't need to push you, and didn't need to read the entire game.-
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It seems to be directed at havo but I dislike day one also so at first glance I thought you were talking to me.In post 279, Gamma Emerald wrote:Why even do you dislike day 1 so much? The point of it is to generate information for future days. Cutting it off early ruins that. Your whole philosophy is rather anti-town. I am of the same mindset school teachers have for delinquent students: if you're not gonna learn fine but don't disrupt the learning of others. Substitute interact with learn and you get my stance on how day 1 dislikers should be acting.-
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So what do you want to do about it?In post 324, Killthestory wrote:katherine wagon formation always hit a villager.-
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