Mini Normal 2002: The Thaw OVERRRRRRRRR

[Saudade]

I regret joining this game.

[Saudade]

Relax spoilsport.
You'll be pining for the more relaxed earlygame before too long.

Is this an invitation to a dance?

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I've no idea in the slightest.

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This is my second game do you really want to take lessons from me ?

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Start by not fillering with me all too much

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Just putting it out there, Saudade’s the first player in a long while to completely shrek me with their scum game. Don’t sleep on him.

You can sleep under me baby

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VOTE: implosion
baby just confess im on to you

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I think I’m town reading hoopla. The way she’s doing everything doesn’t seem like it’s coming from scum.

Well that's a read I completely cant relate with

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GreyICE claimed mason we should kill him at night

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oops wrong thread

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Aww you call me town despite me voting you

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did you just vote yourself?

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VOTE: Flavor Leaf
die, scumbag

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someone do it

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just do it why would a town player self vote ever in his life

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Bet I made it really easy for you guys to make a "case" on me to vote me collectively

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oh dear I wonder which of these people are genuine and which are scum there's too many of you

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Flavor is still mafia, by the way.

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Boy wouldn't cross me like that if he wasn't

[Saudade]

To be fair, Saudade very well knows the kind of player I am, so it’s extremely suspicious of his “why” question

Okay this is actually really vague
what do you mean by "he knows what type of player you are"?

he thinks im aware of his playstyle based on playing 1 game in the newbie section where he and liquety decided to have a not so civil discussion with each other

[Saudade]

You see this is kinda like the reverse trap, you thought you made yourself the "easy" target but in fact
it was ME
who made myself the easy target baiting unsuspecting night killing scumbags like you and others into voting me

[Saudade]

Gamma the only surface player right now in here is you

[Saudade]

Gamma the only surface player right now in here is you

You legit cannot say this when you're arguing shit like "all self-voters are scum". Would love to see what you think is surface level of mine though.

I'm voting mafia and you're voting town, that's all there is to it really.

[Saudade]

Gamma the only surface player right now in here is you

You legit cannot say this when you're arguing shit like "all self-voters are scum". Would love to see what you think is surface level of mine though.

Also lets get things straight I can say whatever the hell I want

[Saudade]

Gamma the only surface player right now in here is you

You legit cannot say this when you're arguing shit like "all self-voters are scum". Would love to see what you think is surface level of mine though.

I'm voting mafia and you're voting town, that's all there is to it really.

This isn't surface level in the slightest from me, but it's super surface level from you to think that logic holds any water
and sure you can say what you want but you're also fucking wrong

I may be wrong but you're most one hundred percent wrong, therefore I win.

[Saudade]

I think this interaction played itself out to its fullest at the moment let us move on to bigger greater things

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I mean maybe it's in his meta, you know what I think of living on meta. This is some real "fuck you I'm town" shit right here. Meanwhile FlavorFlav can't be giving anyone good vibes, right?

Why is it not something scum could fake?

what reason do you have to death tunnel me like an ape?
is it because I've hurt your feelings somewhere?

[Saudade]

Flavor Leaf you play substantially less well than last game I played with you and im more and more inclined to believe you're scum

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Okay I'll just take your word for it

no

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Quoting me and then writing down "he" while talking to me when talking about me is strong proof that your judgement is clouded.

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I"m willing to unvote Flavor in order to vote any of the other 3 easy wagoners on me

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Only because I've played with him before and would like him to stay further in the game

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But then again you're playing differently than in our first game together so I'm not quite sure what to make of it yet..

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I wonder why Hoopla and Magna think im scum

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I have not played with Saudade before, kill him.

im not talking to you im talking to Flavor

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VOTE: unvote flavor

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I"m willing to unvote Flavor in order to vote any of the other 3 easy wagoners on me

But then again you're playing differently than in our first game together so I'm not quite sure what to make of it yet..

I’m not the IC this game.

fair...

[Saudade]

Only for now though

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I've got my eye open for you

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Honestly the way Flavor crossed my vote and then 3 votes followed makes me think that at least one scumbag followed through on me with the easy newbie lynch

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Why do you guys think that you have any meta on me when it's my 2nd game on the website is beyond me

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I like your lines though implosion, you talk the talk.
lets see if your alleged intent aligns with your actions this game =]

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MagnaOfIllusion(11), Gamma Emerald(41), Hoopla(15)
post which line made you think that im mafia with a decent enough thought process or get spanked tbh

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you know it would help if you'd tell me why exactly you think he's mafia instead of repeating the same thing over and over again

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Between this and baiting people into trying to guess whoever your real account is your gameplay is awfully boring

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////completely not game related line I should probably try to be nicer to you guys it appears like I'm taking out some frustration out here hmm sorry

[Saudade]

Well, MoI isn't really doing any scumhunting, and when I read 90, it gives me "oh hey, I'm just here look at me" stuff.
Also the Saudade fos I just dislike in general.

And then when greyICE called them out for being their mason buddy in 105, the way I actually read that post is "Uuuuh sure I'll play along yeah look at me I'm trying to act confident but I'm really not feeling that?" Like it reads extremely faked to me.

Plus I think MoI's interpretation of 171 (he called that post where Saudade is being confused and lost) is just kind of wrong?

wow gee wiz its almost like I wrote about it :/

That's not enough to warrant the kind of strong push you've been doing but I do agree with the points you've made.

[Saudade]

like I exist ya know
and I write posts
for people to read
:/

I acknowledge your existence.
Senpai has noticed you.

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I want to see him post a defense to your points, out some reads rethink his vote on Flavor or not and then we'll go from there

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Your reads are a joke.

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It's clear that you just want me gone no matter what and find reasoning and refute whatever claims someone else might bring to you so I'll just stop talking to you

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Excellent scumhunting via avatar technique... you should pioneer that

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I'll have you know listening to James Baldwin talk is one of the most energetic experiences you'll feel

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I'm not changing my avatar for you.

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You can reread my ISO by yourself without looking at my avatar and objectively try to win the game as town (If you are one)
or you could continue with your senseless push based on your "feelings"

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This is hilarious

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okay yeah I turned off avatars and his posts don't feel so dull tone-wise
UNVOTE:

What's your opinion on Flavor Leaf?

[Saudade]

Your entire opinion off him depends on one question?

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yes but why did you think im scum over flavor to begin with

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you're not getting away easy with this one Hoopla

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One scumhunts by avatars, the other just lynches whoever he dims expendable

I've seen better strategies in my newbie games

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Alright my dance is over for now, lets see where this develops

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VOTE: Flavor Leaf
this should be our lynch for the day to be honest

[Saudade]

I unvoted Flavor to see where things would lead.
this lead to Flavor unvoting me and voting someone else which begs the quesiton of why did he vote me in the first place only to claim I am his strongest townread later on
I just see his play filled with inconsistancy and that's about it.

and I dont recall wanting to read into implosion pretty sure I townread him because I could relate to his reads

[Saudade]

Unvote

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

????
explain

[Saudade]

since when am I a strong scumplayer

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it was a newbie game........

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Could it be that you're all afraid of my scumgame right now?
trembling in fear at night that I might be pulling the strings and outplaying you all?

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Just because I won one game

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am I the only one that wants to punch a puppy every time moi posts

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just lynch the leaf what could possibly go wrong

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people that replace out are big big losers

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Can't believe Flavor isnt getting lynched today, sigh

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I go afk for a couple of days and the wagon vanishes quite so easily eh..

[Saudade]

Can't believe Flavor isnt getting lynched today, sigh

I am obvtown

You are many things but claiming to be obvtown just highlights your insecurity about your own (scum) role

[Saudade]

I'm sorry I couldnt be as active, sundays to tuesedays are my peak study days...

[Saudade]

Can't believe Flavor isnt getting lynched today, sigh

I am obvtown

You are many things but claiming to be obvtown just highlights your insecurity about your own (scum) role

I could have a cop guilty on me and still not be insecure if I was scum.

But I’m just town and obv town

No and I just highlighted the reasoning.

[Saudade]

but claiming to be obvtown just highlights your insecurity about your own (scum) role

dont make me repeat myself again

[Saudade]

I feel very disconnected from what's happening in this game

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The game was paused for like, a long time and beforehand my wagon on Flavor has failed so I kinda lost interest at the closure days of day1

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Anyway unless Flavor's tone and behaviour improves drastically imma vote him tomorrow or something

[Saudade]

The game was paused for like, a long time and beforehand my wagon on Flavor has failed so I kinda lost interest at the closure days of day1

why didn't the scumflip get you excited?

I saw the scumflip like, 2/3 days ago? you want me to fake excitement or something lol its been days

[Saudade]

I mean we can dance again Gamma but I've you locked down as town so I've little interest in this

[Saudade]

Uhhh I don't want to talk to you.
Anyone else wants to dance?

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Saudade said unless my tone changes, but I believe my tone has changed multiple times throughout this game

You are exhibiting a very defense minded tone.

[Saudade]

VOTE: Saudade
I'm fine with this

Petty

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Who is Piplup did he replace anyone

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What's with your ongoing obsession with Stefan

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He's scum.

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Now before you quote me and repeat the same, had you thought Stefan is scum you'd be voting him and not Piplup at the beginning of this day

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Unvote

VOTE: Piplup

I really have no interest in subscribing to a moi/gi 1v1 right now. Still don't feel great about stefan.

[Saudade]

did I miss your vote?

[Saudade]

Ah, I did, I guess this is a fair exchange then

[Saudade]

VOTE: Saudade
I'm fine with this

Petty

Not petty, but done with your shit
Your entry feels like scum who are struggling to get into the game, and as a player who as scum has had that issue before I feel like I'm a bit of an authority on that subject

hahahahahahahahahaha

[Saudade]

I said uh scum scum, scummity scum, Piplup is super scum.

They’re fence sitting with Saudade now and Saud/FL is a mislynch string.

And just like the tattoo on my chest, it’s a triangle now. Mislynch triangle they have setup

what's this with the defensive tone once again Flavor
and what's this with me being a mislynch string with FL???


VOTE: Flavor Leaf
Well like I've said unless something changed about your tone you're going to be my vote for today for now

[Saudade]

Gamma is still dumb town
StefanB very relaxed despite being fosed by like 3 people stronk town
Flavor big scum
Implosion is intresting townlean for me
and all the other wall of text posters uhh uhh null

[Saudade]

its universally amusing how you flip your reads based on your situation rather than the game Flavor

[Saudade]

Look at you over reacting to me emphasizing your defensive tone, you are nervous.
Why are you nervous? Because you are scum and I've caught you, that's all

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You see there's no need for wall of texts, apply pressure in certain areas and the scum will give themselves away

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Flavor I know you are there come back here and let me smash you

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Guess you ran away, fine boys good night

[Saudade]

I think Piplup likely makes more sense than Saudade. Saudade is probably just irritating aimlessly tunneling town.

VOTE: Piplup

guess you realized you'll get smashed if you go head to head with me so you decided to try ericas replacement?

[Saudade]

Your push is incredibly fabricated and forced, so you are most likely scum based on the fact you aren’t even really trying to solve anything, you’re just forcing pushes.

this followed by "oh wait nvm you're actually probably town lalala i take it all back"

???? no mate you die today

[Saudade]

Just die, man

[Saudade]

VOTE: Saudade
I'm fine with this

Petty

Not petty, but done with your shit
Your entry feels like scum who are struggling to get into the game, and as a player who as scum has had that issue before I feel like I'm a bit of an authority on that subject

hahahahahahahahahaha

If you care about not getting lynched you'll actually defend instead of making fake-looking statements meant to look like you don't care

I really don't care about what you have to say, sorry you voted me because you were displeased with my lack of emotion to us lynching scum.
boohoo, come look into my mental state when I reply on the forums at 6 am in the morning

[Saudade]

Flavor's super defensive town continues

[Saudade]

saudade,my dude do you have any goddamn reads besides flavor

it seems like you have a townread on gamma, correct me if i'm wrong+expound if i'm right

townread on gamma stefan and a weaker townlean on implo that's all

[Saudade]

saudade,my dude do you have any goddamn reads besides flavor

it seems like you have a townread on gamma, correct me if i'm wrong+expound if i'm right

Besides, having only 1 scumread is fine because we can only lynch one person a day

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I townread him after our first dance together where he first voted, and then unvoted me. Something somethings lots of genuine emotions and frustrations, I think he wouldn't be able to fabricate that to such extent.

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Flavor's super defensive town continues

K, yo just flat out called me town here

I meant tone.

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Which you could've figured out anyway

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No I scumread you for a sh!t load of other things beforehand but I just like pointing that out because it ultimately symbolizes your entire gameplay

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You were playing with a lot more... balls(?) in our newbie game.

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I wasn't a defeatist I actually came into this day with a half of an open mind giving flavor a chance.. alas you cannot change what you roll

[Saudade]

You were playing with a lot more... balls(?) in our newbie game.

No I scumread you for a sh!t load of other things beforehand but I just like pointing that out because it ultimately symbolizes your entire gameplay

That’s a personality thing, not an AI thing

no it puts in contrast your defensive tonedscumplay to your balls-like townplay

[Saudade]

Oh poor you : (

[Saudade]

I wasn't a defeatist I actually came into this day with a half of an open mind giving flavor a chance.. alas you cannot change what you roll

That's not what I saw as defeatist, I saw you not getting your wagon over a scum lynch and complaining about it as defeatist

To be fair I'd be a lot more happy coming into this day had we lynched Flavor day one and he flipped, I'd feel.. accomplished?

[Saudade]

I don't know who is everyone, and quite honestly I'm quite bored of all the metagame references here.
You flipflopped your read on me a thousand times to fit your needs, you're defensive, highly inconsistant and nervous.
Get lynched mate

[Saudade]

I wasn't a defeatist I actually came into this day with a half of an open mind giving flavor a chance.. alas you cannot change what you roll

That's not what I saw as defeatist, I saw you not getting your wagon over a scum lynch and complaining about it as defeatist

To be fair I'd be a lot more happy coming into this day had we lynched Flavor day one and he flipped, I'd feel.. accomplished?

You’d rather not have had a scum flip? This is incredibly scummy.

Did you really just read half of my sentence, take it out of context to fit your needs again in such a blatant manner?

[Saudade]

Grow a pair of balls and vote me.
We can have a Flavor vs Saudade day

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Both of us know you won't because you don't think you can pull this one off and try to towntell out of this by sharing your "well saudade is voting me but hes newbtown"
but then you realzie you've no other way out of this either so "well maybe saudade is scum"

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and so the flip flop of your reads continue, sometimes I dont even have to post and your read on me flips

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I guess you feel like you can lynch Stefan because Implosion is fosing me and Gamma just unvoted me so you back off huh

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Implosion is fosing Stefan***********************************************

uhh where's this edit button someone teach me how to

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Both of us know you won't because you don't think you can pull this one off and try to towntell out of this by sharing your "well saudade is voting me but hes newbtown"
but then you realzie you've no other way out of this either so "well maybe saudade is scum"

I can pull anything off

'cept win a game you cant

[Saudade]

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brother sadaddy

how would you feel about an implosion lynch

He's a townlean why would I want implosion over Flavor at this point

[Saudade]

I guess you feel like you can lynch Stefan because Implosion is fosing me and Gamma just unvoted me so you back off huh

No, you’re just tunneling, and will hide behind a 1v1.

I could probably convince Gamma why you are scum.

I just think stefan is scummier than you and have more to go on.

You don’t have much, because you’re actively not doing anything but tunneling.

You cant, and you wont.
Try convincing Gamma that StefanB is scum though.
And all of us because you didnt really try and just hope Implosion will do the work for you(?)

[Saudade]

Both of us know you won't because you don't think you can pull this one off and try to towntell out of this by sharing your "well saudade is voting me but hes newbtown"
but then you realzie you've no other way out of this either so "well maybe saudade is scum"

I can pull anything off

'cept win a game you cant

I win the majority of my games. However, i have lost a few more recently. I had a two plus year undefeated scum streak. Would be odd if I couldn’t win a game with that.

Not on my watch

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brother sadaddy

how would you feel about an implosion lynch

He's a townlean why would I want implosion over Flavor at this point

because you fucking need jesus his read on falvor makes no sense and that hammersit on coa was atrocious

Sorry I probably missed all that so you'll have to quote(?)

[Saudade]

Implosion is fosing Stefan***********************************************

uhh where's this edit button someone teach me how to

you can't edit posts in a game

What do you think about Flavor trying to casually pocket you

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Anyways not to discredit who you are as a player Flavor this is just friendly banter a'ight?
you're still scum tho

[Saudade]

that seems like practical application to me

i don't think being bored lines up with that

til that players who ever attempt to practically apply game theory to games are not allowed to be bored

This is a SCUMCLAIM u are donezo kid

You know exactly what is wrong with this, and I wouldn't need to explain it if you were town

Taste my fucking nerfgun this vote aint' comin off

p-edit: boy i barely have the motor skills to put peanut butter on a slice of bread hit the fucking iso and ctrl+f buttons yourself

do I look like the type of player to do that

[Saudade]

You don't deserve a pet, Prism

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by god.

bet you 20$ if you unvote StefanB and vote me Flavor will unvote Stefan as well in 2 pages and claim that I am his eternal scumread again

[Saudade]

See had you really thought I am scum you'd talk to me differently

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We both know that you know that I'm town because I'm not on your mafia team

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And when you read our interactions with this mindset every single post of yours makes sense from a scum point of view

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You are the last player here I'd want to be scum

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Wish Gamma was scum, to be honest, alas probably not

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Prism go to bed we're not here for casual talk

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I must say Prism has a hilarious character

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he's not furious in the slightest just tired

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can we lynch flavor now

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Lol if Stefan is mafia he sure does put in the effort

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Flavor does.
But its okay im going to lynch him

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That means Flavor is going to unvote Stefan and vote me tomorrow

[Saudade]

curious how the topic died for the last couple of days

Flavor, Saud and to some degree Piplup spammed the thread and killed most everyone's will to slog through 10 pages of mostly spam.

Who do you think are scum Gamma? Give my your thoughts and theories. Be the change you want to see in the thread.

Any thoughts on 1270?

well excuse me sir that I do not post in coherent wall of texts like yourself

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does this mean I am confirmed town?

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I'm not too in the know about the mechanics of this game peasant

[Saudade]

Lets bite, what do you find so fishy about:
1. MoI is a tracker.
2. I don't think there is scum-motivation to track Saudade.
3. Scum neither killing nor roleblocking a claimed tracker is odd, if they did it the night before when he was unclaimed.

And I don't think anyone ecept Hiraki really exspecteded Flavor to flipp town.
How did you know Hiraki?

I think he meant that your post was bait rather than fishy(?)
but then again

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Implosion

- looking forward to your analysis ASAP.

does this mean I am confirmed town?

I mean this is the sort of post that got me to scum read Saud Day 1. Confirmed Town? Are you kidding me? The number of ways a negative Track result doesn't confirm him as Town are large. And again - read that Newbie game ... he's not an idiot. But happy to play one for the purposes of keeping off everyone but my radar apparently.

Saud

- hey your lock scum read flipped Town. Who is scum?

So I am sure from Sauds Post that MoIs result is correct.
I feel faking that completly is high-risk/low-reward play.
Would MoI have a reason to target Saud as scum-tracker?
I am a bit suprised that he was blocked night 1 and night 2 scum let him track without a care in the world, when his role was out in the open.

I think my reaction to this post is best summed up in gif form ...

You won't answer my question so I'm not going to answer yours peasant

[Saudade]

Had you actually read my newbie game you'd actually notice it was full of me asking questions about the mechanical nature of this game

[Saudade]

Had you actually read my newbie game you'd actually notice it was full of me asking questions about the mechanical nature of this game

Yeah I read that game. Let me direct everyone to one of your late-game posts where you were responding to a question about learning scum strategies ...

Not on here I can assure you
there are other mafia websites

So yeah .. you used "Oh I don't understand mechanics" in that game and then explained that you have experience elsewhere.

Others maybe be sucked in by your faux-misunderstanding play but I'm not.

Here ... have my peasant vote ...
VOTE: Saud

There is a difference between mechanisc, and concepts.
I was good at concepts, not good at mechanics. Had you actually tried to scumhunt and not fabricate a push you would realize the difference, alas you dont.

VOTE: MoI

[Saudade]

You being alive after claiming a power role is suspectible enough, since you decided to pull out this as soon as someone tries to "clear" themselves and you reply with hostility that probably means that you're scum trying to keep everybodys options as open as possible to not get narrowed down to thyself.
Have a pleasant day peasant

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MoI: Preedit: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=75418
50 % was we have to scum. One did the nightkill, one didn't. Can't be the one who made the kill. So can't be the one who did the kill. So I called it a 50%-ino.
Also a ninja and a roleblocker for just a tracker that is a bit much.
Somethink still unclear?

I don’t see the game’s relevance as a parallel situation but that point I certainly can put aside. I do however think you conclusion makes not much sense. Him not making the kill (or being a Ninja) says nothing about him being 50% clear.

And the “ninja and roleblocker is a bit much for a tracker” bit is why I think you are fishing. Hypothetical Roleblocker would be a counter for all Town roles not just Tracker. You are putting too much effort in that I feel might be aimed at trying to see if you could get other Town PRs to give away their location.

Heck I think the Hoopla kill was 100% PR hunting at this stage. Her laid back not driving play is what I would expect scum to see as a PR signal.

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There is a difference between mechanisc, and concepts.
I was good at concepts, not good at mechanics. Had you actually tried to scumhunt and not fabricate a push you would realize the difference, alas you dont.

VOTE: MoI

I appreciate the OMGUS. And heck ... maybe you are just a below average Town player who really doesn't have a grasp on concepts. I find anyone having any sort of experience with Mafia thinking a negative Tracker result with multiple scum alive as a clear pretty ludicrous. Maybe I am giving you too much credit and your first game you stumbled into a win by generally being a complete Newb. After the game is over we will see. But for now you can keep my suspicion.

Thank you for dodging any of the valid points I've made and belittling me instead, peasant.
I'll be keeping my vote.

[Saudade]

Remind me what are the reasons for scum to leave a town PR alive?

[Saudade]

I could counter each of your arguments MoI but I'm tired of doing the thinking for you.

You're probably actually scum anyway so why would you think anyway its not in your interest

[Saudade]

Your case for scum reading my slot makes no sense to me Stefan. Who are your biggest scum reads and town reads atm?

his case makes a lot of sense actually if you are willing to readcin circumstances rather than raw player input

[Saudade]

Your case for scum reading my slot makes no sense to me Stefan. Who are your biggest scum reads and town reads atm?

his case makes a lot of sense actually if you are willing to readcin circumstances rather than raw player input

Well those actions can obviously come from town so..
.no not really.

Saudade is it generally your thing to act scummy as both alignments at the start of a game? Do you have other games where you've behaved similarly that you could link me to?

This is my second game.
Do quote my scumtells this game sir I'd love to see your thought process

[Saudade]

Your case for scum reading my slot makes no sense to me Stefan. Who are your biggest scum reads and town reads atm?

his case makes a lot of sense actually if you are willing to readcin circumstances rather than raw player input

Well those actions can obviously come from town so..
.no not really.

Saudade is it generally your thing to act scummy as both alignments at the start of a game? Do you have other games where you've behaved similarly that you could link me to?

You can deflect anything with this line.

[Saudade]

which one of you wants to dance with me please decide

[Saudade]

GreyICE claimed mason we should kill him at night

oops wrong thread

VOTE: Flavor Leaf
die, scumbag

did you just vote yourself?

someone do it

just do it why would a town player self vote ever in his life

Flavor is still mafia, by the way.

Boy wouldn't cross me like that if he wasn't

Like the WIFOM at the start is pretty shit idk what the point of that was apart from making us believe you're super confident town. Which if you were super confident town you wouldn't feel the need to flaunt it as such. Just WIFOM in general is ew imo.

Second you put FL to L-1 basically daring people to hammer when it was still pretty early, I think a lot of the reads around FL would have piggy backed off your initial scum read that had a reason of "boy wouldn't come at me like that" - ngl I haven't read all of D2.

When is too scummy to be scum actually just scum? You having only played two games makes me feel like you deserve to be read surface level, right girl?

the wifom or whatever is a joke null read at best, the latter was me disliking Flavor's way of playstyle as it is now evident that hes town.
He was highly inconsistent and a "wildcard", flipping his reads back and forth in matter of minutes depending on the votes.
Anyway you don't make much of a case here nor am I "scummy" beyond the fact that I lynched a town player.
Boohoo my reads are not accurate on my 2nd game on this website? Well f*(ck

[Saudade]

can someone make a post about who replaced which player all at the same place so I'll know whose slot is talking to me

[Saudade]

if one of you is Gamma's slot i'm going to be upset

[Saudade]

in retrospect you two should be voting each other since both of you are wrong.

[Saudade]

Trying my best captain

[Saudade]

in my first scum game my partner put my night action for me... so its possible
also what is this ascetic role(?(

[Saudade]

in retrospect you two should be voting each other since both of you are wrong.

BTW this is another reason why I don’t trust Saud even if he is Town. He’s supposedly got his vote on scum (aka me) but instead of saying “you should be lynching scum” he wants them to cross vote.

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If MoI is town, then his reads and his observationskills suck since the hammer. If Grey is town, he hasn't voted scum since the hammer.

Hey Stefan … so how do you know Grey hasn’t voted scum since the hammer hmmm?


Also I’ve noticed your softclaiming all Day. There are a limited amount of roles that make sense for what you suggest and the two at the front of my mind CANNOT clear Saud which is why your fishing has looked like scum searching for the missing Town blocker. So nah … my observation skills don’t suck.

I mean the reason for scum to claim tracker and cost to endgame, it exist.

So your theory is I’m a scum information role that sees an obviously fake Town information claim and immediately counter-claims it BEFORE letting any actual Town information roles do so? Walk me through that.

I mean the reason for scum to claim tracker and cost to endgame, it exist.

Um again nope. My theory was scum was afraid of a PROTECTIVE role. Like … I don’t know … a Jailkeeper who jailed me Night 1. That you keep trying to suggest Watcher is my theory also bolstered why I still think you could be scum … clear misrepresentation.

MoI real talk, so even if Saudade was confirmed town, you would be lynching here, do I understand that right?

Of course not. Duh. I wanted to impress upon Grey how much I don’t want the possibility of Town’s fate being in his hands since scum is NEVER killing him if he is Town.

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PoE pool is Stefan, Grey, Gamma - after Implosion

So Hiraki talk to me about why Grey was on this list … inquiring minds want to hear your thought process.

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That was a sweet irony for both of them fosibg each other if their lynch on me is "wrong"
god cant you read

[Saudade]

VOTE: unvote

[Saudade]

must we really lynch Gamma's slot I think Gamma was pretty town when he was around here..

[Saudade]

Really don't like the timing of Magna's vote on Erika. Hoopla's reaction in 41 also seems like posturing.

Vote: MagnaofIllusion

gathering

@StefanB, where are you at in terms of reads? I can't really get a good sense from reading your posts. Also, you never responded to 245.

partner/not partner interactions??
the first part seems like they're partners yet the slightly negative attitude in the latter half of this suggests the opposite


Prism was first on the CultofAthena wagon with 5 votes on Flavor Leaf and a lot of the posts exhibit genuine individual thought process

[Saudade]

Cult havent posted much so ignore the "gathering" post actually

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VOTE: CheekyTeeky

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StefanB town Prims/prims's slot is town and Gamma's slot is also town.

Let us lynch Implosion's slot today

[Saudade]

Look ma, no yelling.

Well, if you're cool. You are cool, right MOI?

Vote:Flavor Leaf

It's what the cool kids do.

Sure I’ll join the wagon. It’s Boon so there is going to be entertainment value there.

VOTE: Flavor

But talk to me about Saudade Grey … can I interest you

in grinding his Red role PM to a find powder through relentless pressure

voting there perhaps? I mean ... the whole "Oops wrong thread" play is so cheeky scum.

Also to loosely steal from the Simpsons – “But the yelling Grey … you can’t get rid of the yelling!”

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OK now I feel like you're insecure, like do you have to devalue everything I do right?

Very interesting reaction Gamma – you’ve just gotten done devaluing my play in Thing Mafia and when I give a rather friendly jab back you respond with this. How is that at all “devaluing everything you do”?

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I've no idea in the slightest.

Double check your role PM – generally your scum-buddies are listed there ….

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Saudade is pretty town already though.

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Just putting it out there, Saudade’s the first player in a long while to completely shrek me with their scum game. Don’t sleep on him.

So what lessons did you learn from getting, um, shreked?

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Hoopla's reaction in 41 also seems like posturing.

Have you ever played with Hoopla or read any games of hers?

This was taken from page 4 MoI which reminds me of our exchanges during this day as well, funny because I forgot all about it.

You seem to dislike my playfulness(?) in fear of getting played by the wifom, just relax and drink some beer

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The ascetic was somethink that no one thaught of before. Its not a role I have seen often as a scumrole.
Grey: You braught the waggon back to life, Hoopla was there for some time and abandoned it shortly before.

Grey: Which player would just forget to send in his action?

I would argue that the following wouldn't:
Prism
GreyIce
MagnaOfIllusion
Gamma Emerald
implosion
StefanB

I am pretty sure we can add Hiraki to the list.

Mainly it’s for this post here.

It feels odd to me that StephanB wouldn’t include Hiraki in the list of wouldn’t forget if scum pile.

Makes it much more likely for a StephanB/implosion scum team.

VOTE: StephanB

Is this really it? he didnt add Hiraki to his list of people who might forget to roleblock and.. bam that makes StefanB scum lmao?

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Sorry for the spam I don't know how to arrange my posts aesthetically on the forums

[Saudade]

Let's shoot Implosion/CheekyTeeky instead of OnTheMark

[Saudade]

Taking a huge risk here since if OnTheMark is scum eventually that'll make me look terrible since he's at L-1(?) right now(?)

[Saudade]

VOTE: OnTheMark HAMMER

ofc you hammer without an explanation as soon as i vote you

[Saudade]

thought i was your scumread what happened mate????

[Saudade]

do explain what made you think hes scum tho
even if he flips scum at this point the timing of your hammer is quite intresting

[Saudade]

I guess no final words from our lynchee confirms his guilt

or he doesnt check his computer every 30 min

in any way if he flips scum imma wagon you out so fast

[Saudade]

I love you Stefan

[Saudade]

There was a hammer I believe, no?
You die either way Cheeky no worries

[Saudade]

Your only hope is if this flips scum at the moment

[Saudade]

And it probably wont since this is Gammas slot

[Saudade]

Should I be worried that Stefan knows for certain that im town

[Saudade]

Glgl. I stick to my reads of scum in Hiraki/Saudade/Piplup. I don't believe this flips scum hence me leaving him out of my scum reads earlier.

Sorry OtM! Sorry everyone D:

What was the point of putting someone you dont fos at L-1 anyway? still makes no sense
and the hammer still went as soon as i. voted you without explanation

[Saudade]

I now realize I miss Cheetory's posts

[Saudade]

VOTE: CheekyTeeky
adios linda

[Saudade]

jesus christ lynching Gamma's slot was one of the worst you guys could do this game

[Saudade]

to be honest we dont have to claim we can just lynch this scumbag

[Saudade]

Plan is in effect i

f this is a scumflip

, and it should be.

[Saudade]

Claim tomorrow or something

[Saudade]

does it mean I need to claim?

[Saudade]

what if I dont want to claim

[Saudade]

I'm mason
Piplup claim