Mini Normal 2033: Dolphins (Game Over)

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: ProHawk
caw caw mfer

[Gamma Emerald]

Also I think I’ve been involved in every 11p mini normal in some way since arrival on-site

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2. It's in the OP.

Well that killed a bit of the fun

[Gamma Emerald]

Lets play a game,

Maybe it's because I've been playing too much Dead By Daylight but this made me think of Jigsaw.

What do you think about the current DVA wagon?

That’s “I want to play a game”

[Gamma Emerald]

Wrong
I don’t think Saudade’s current actions are scummy

[Gamma Emerald]

Dva is a terrible, terrible, name.

Have you played Overwatch?
Not much I found interesting beyond this
would like a breif explanation of ezekel case tho

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My problem is your wording. It’s very misleading. If you said I played 1 game with rage and he seemed to vote scummy. I would’ve corrected you on the seem part.

Using typically to me implies you have a good range of data to go on,certainly more than one game.

If I go to the casino once and win 2k, I can’t go typically I win 2k at the casino, because I haven’t been enuff times to say that.

That’s on you. If you interpreted one way I can’t control that.

His interpretation is reasonable imo

[Gamma Emerald]

Gfdi I thought Tammy was in this game when I saw Tommy’s name

[Gamma Emerald]

EzekelRAGE can be town for now.

VOTE: Saudade

Content please.

Lol
You don’t get a guy like Saudade to do what you want by brute forcing him
You appease him

[Gamma Emerald]

In other news I see like 3 different back and forths and I have not really much to say on any of them

[Gamma Emerald]

Apologies for not contributing anything by page 5, there's nothing for me to pick up on yet so you'll just have to be patient

I mean there’s those back-and-forths
Did those go over your head too?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: GuerillaWoo
I think he’s trying to hard to justify his Saudade push to everyone
Also I don’t see you having questioned everyone very much

[Gamma Emerald]

GuerillaWoo, why LTVNGambit?

Gamma Emerald, do you think Saudade's posts are coming from town?

I had a point where I felt he wasn’t doing much and he could be scum but GW’s push makes me not feel like pursuing that.

[Gamma Emerald]

I think Gamma has grown to like me
funny enough his reaction to me in our first game was much like Guerilla's

That’s why I made the comment about his method not working: I saw past!me in what he was doing.

[Gamma Emerald]

Saudade is a good Lynch.

He’s most likely scum here since he isn’t trying to find scum.

This is going to a long game
Not contributing doesn’t mean he’s scum ffs

[Gamma Emerald]

I think Gamma has grown to like me
funny enough his reaction to me in our first game was much like Guerilla's

That’s why I made the comment about his method not working: I saw past!me in what he was doing.

Wait were you Town when you played with Saudade before? If so then why are you voting someone who’s reminding you of yourself in a previous Town game?

Yeah
But there’s a reason why I think it could be a scum push
Go back and read to post where I voted him

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Ok
That’s a reasonable response
I think you’re kinda towny rn
Also feeling LTVNGambit is town

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Doughnut why wont you tell the people why are you really voting me
or do you want me to tell them

Tell me!

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Actually that’s some major word salad from LTVN

[Gamma Emerald]

Actually yeah I think I want a D-Va wagon. She has done nothing besides give barely justified votes, and that last vote was a textbook wolfy pop-in
VOTE: D-Va

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What is this “we?” You’re not putting your vote where your mouth is, which is what I kinda expected.

Your response to Gamma’s vote on Dva was to agree with the wagon, then throw shade on a ton of other slots and vote none of them. I thought it was scummy because it looked like you were just paying lip service to the wagon without actually wanting to be on it, and that post right there proves it.

Guerilla is scum.

VOTE: GuerillaWoo

I think that was scummy for the shade yeah, specifically because it scattershots across so many people. Scum don’t care who they mislynch, they just need to mislynch.
VOTE: GuerillaWoo

[Gamma Emerald]

y'all ever hear of a read list

Where’s the townreads you wingnut

[Gamma Emerald]

Ok
Still think it’s pretty shady
Like why wouldn’t you state it was a read list in the post?

[Gamma Emerald]

Dva's just.. too simple to be a scum vote

Do any of your votes have any substance? I can't think of any of your votes which aren't simple or which are useful. If there is any, point them out to me, and I'll admit I'm wrong.

By the way keep in mind at the moment you are Guerilla are the most suspicious to the most people.

According to what? your night meeting with your buddy? =]

According to me Alchemist Rage Gamma Hawk and Tommy =]

I don’t think me or alch suspects Saudade

[Gamma Emerald]

Also that is a weird thing to say, the most suspicious to the most people? That feels kinda scummy cos it feels like LTVN knows his read doesn’t truly matter so he’s using other people’s reads to pressure people

[Gamma Emerald]

@Guerilla no.3
So you started the wagon which is true. You unvoted at L-1. This isn't a newbie game. You'd have to be stupid to randomly Hammer so early without declaring intent and without an argument. If you look recently. You said you'd get along with Saudade. As he has the same reads of me and Tommy as you so. Early bussing.

Really? Not a Newbie game. Well that’s actually true but we have a lot of newer players so that comment kinda doesn’t work.
And I can think of other reasons he might have thought the wagon bad.

[Gamma Emerald]

7th line and 8th line from the bottom. He definitely didn't say "hes just gonna linger in the background" my bad.

Are you on mobile?

[Gamma Emerald]

I mean, Gamma did warn you all

I warend you about Sadade bro
I tolf you dawg

[Gamma Emerald]

I could lynch scum back to back 2 days in a row and you'll just say that im bussing

Game would be over wtf

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Bring back the saudade wagon since hes probably scum, he’s not scum hunting and he’s kind of being rude

No. Thank wagon was very likely scum driven.

[Gamma Emerald]

That* wagon

[Gamma Emerald]

Saudade (5) - Doughboy, LTVNGambit, Tommy, GuerillaWoo, DVa
The peak of the wagon
I think it’s probably at least one of LTVNGambit or DVa, with Tommy also under consideration

[Gamma Emerald]

Saudade (5) - Doughboy, LTVNGambit, Tommy, GuerillaWoo, DVa
The peak of the wagon
I think it’s probably at least one of LTVNGambit or DVa, with Tommy also under consideration

I don't know what to say other than RIP random voting at the start of day 1.

Cool you’re off the list
What about the others?

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I don’t think DVa was random
The timing just seemed too easy

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I’ve been skipping most of Ezekiel’s posts because they consistently are kinda long

[Gamma Emerald]

I like GuerillaWoo and Doughboy's push on EzekelRAGE. It's clear that at least Alchemist21 and I were serious, so why didn't EzekelRAGE vote one of us?

VOTE: EzekelRAGE

@DVa: I don't know how I would have checked that, but if this is about ongoing games let's change the subject.

I usually make statements while holding my vote.When I do vote I can just refer to my posts I made earlier. i post in the moment because I can be forgetful. it’s my play style/habit. *shrug*

Which brings me to this post.

Rage does typically vote who he thinks he is scummy so that comment does raise concerns with me.

You make this statement like we have played in a number of games.
You worded it in a way to make me seem like im playing differently/scummy.

We have played 1 game together, my first game on this board.

In that game I voted day 1 because Lafayette asked for votes, I obliged.

Day 2 I voted you because I had a theory on you and didn’t like your hammer.

Day 3 where I basically made it me vs ff as the lynch, i attacked ff thru most of the day phase and never voted him, even though the lynch was guaranteed to be me vs him. When I did vote, I voted myself.

Throughout that game I made posts on how I thought something Lafayette did appeared scummy. On more than one occasion Lafayette called me out for not voting him. Again I explained I hold my votes.

So can you provide proof about how I “typically” vote who I think is scummy so early? I provided examples on how that is not the case at all.

No actual conclusion yet but EzekelRage’s playstyle would gel well at my homesite, where voting is much more serious than here

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You make this statement like we have played in a number of games.

No I made a statement based off my experience of you. 1 game is still better than no games.

Provide proof, otherwise this reads to me like you were trying to add fire to a wagon.

This argument I think DB was right on, typically doesn’t mean across multiple games
But that doesn’t change DB being wrong about the meta in the first place

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Idk about it overall
If he is scum I think it’s feasible the 1v1 was a distancing move

[Gamma Emerald]

Honestly i was starting to reconsider my read until mila kunis. How can you seem townie sometimes but also post so much garbage?

I'm conflicted. Saudade now seems to be trying to sort people. But I find it hard to believe he'd genuinely get the number of scum wrong twice in a row after it had already come up.

Well the last time it worked in his favor and was probably just due to being used to games like that

[Gamma Emerald]

First quote shouldn’t be there

[Gamma Emerald]

Would engaging with me be acceptable? I think I’m the only one here who’s played with you before (maybe Alch but that’s it)

[Gamma Emerald]

4 votes on Gorilla? Really?
some scum on that wagon for sure

Who do you think it is then?

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VOTE: D-Va
Don’t really feel like GW is scum rn
This is L-1 btw

[Gamma Emerald]

I think claim setup just means he wants a claim

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: D-Va
Don’t really feel like GW is scum rn
This is L-1 btw

intent to hammer

then.

I still strongly prefer Guerilla but I’m not opposed to a DVA lynch.

UNVOTE: DVa

Flubbernugget, when do you think you'll be caught up?

You've only got seven to go. See how much more you can slam out. It would be good to have some up-to-date views from you about day 1 before we start flipping people.

Meanwhile, I suggest we get a claim but don't hammer.

VOTE: DVa

DVa, please claim your role.

You were saying?
And you not claiming yet makes me doubt you are as new as your joindate says

[Gamma Emerald]

Votecount 1.6

GuerillaWoo (4) - LTVNGambit, Alchemist21, Gamma Emerald, Doughboy
DVa (4) - ProHawk, Saudade, Tommy, GuerillaWoo
Doughboy (1) - EzekelRAGE
Tommy (1) - DVa

Not Voting (1) - Flubbernugget

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2018-09-28 12:35:27).

VC before I switched

You were saying...?

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah I 100% doubt DVa is new to the game
PEdit: cool, shade me for missing a vote saying “I’m not scumhunting”. From what I’ve seen, you’re either not a newbie or your scumbuddy is coaching you.

[Gamma Emerald]

Just because I do not have a lot of time to spam posts and I do not fluffpost does not mean I am new. I never said I was new.

Were you trying to present me as a compromise lynch because you thought I was too new to fight back?

Gamma is opporturtunistic scum and he should get the rope today

How do I only spend 20 minutes on this thread but somehow I am the only one that notices when people change votes?

Like at least when I am here I actually read the thread

So because I missed 1 vote I’m scum? I’m not the only one who got it wrong either, so do you really think everyone who got it wrong is scum?

[Gamma Emerald]

DVa I want a full readlist from you

[Gamma Emerald]

DVA Opted to vote Gamma instead of Gorilla despite being on the cliff here

This actually makes sense
VOTE: GuerillaWoo

[Gamma Emerald]

Because I don’t townread it

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Nah fuck that.

VOTE: dva

Strategic replacement

When the pressure was off them?

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Votecount 1.8

GuerillaWoo (5) - LTVNGambit, Alchemist21, Doughboy, EzekelRAGE, Gamma Emerald
DVa (3) - ProHawk, GuerillaWoo, Tommy
Gamma Emerald (1) - DVa

Not Voting (2) - Flubbernugget, Saudade

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2018-09-28 12:35:27).

Am I missing something here? At the last vote count dva (or me) wasn't the leading wagon and I looked at dvas iso too and nothing makes me assume that my slot was being heavily pushed by anyone can you point me to the posts that make you think this?

Dva was the closest to l-1, somebody even said he was at l-1. After his last post of the game it was revealed he was tied with 4 but he was still the one under more pressure. There were 2 competing wagons. He also replaced out via pm and not by a post in the game thread.

That’s suspicious to me

Quick post before I head off then, this was the vote count at the time the mod announced he was being replaced. 5 in the leading wagon 3 on mines?? Why exactly is replacing out via pm sus and is it more sus than you conveniently ignoring my ask for a reads list?

Yeah I think Wilky is prolly town

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Im calling you scum cuz I felt like you lied on me.

Town lie. Lying isn’t a scumtell.

Dude like I’ve already asked you earlier. Start taking this game seriously.

Why would you lie on him as town?

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That’s actually not weak reasoning at all. Town want to stop arguing. Scum want it to fan the flames.

I think Ezekiel is calling the use of “this play is like my scumplay” weak, which I think is fair

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Early game lies are more often than not pedantry from the accuser or town being careless. Neither of those interest me, and I believe that is reasonable.

I think Flubber is town

[Gamma Emerald]

Alright lets start sorting this out.
Re-reading
ProHawk - Town

I’d like you to explain this

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I recall ProHaek lurked our of his last scumgame I was present for

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Jfc you're insufferable

He really is. Last game my opinion of another player led to a 2 game day phase argument and we were both town.

He should know this argument is stupid and detrimental to the game yet he’s too hard headed to care.

Or maybe he actually is scum faking this whole thing. Idk but it needs to end already

t this point I think you’re baiting him here

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@ Wilky I haven’t compared ProHawk’s lurking yet, rn I just know that he lurked both games

[Gamma Emerald]

I actually do want the fighting to stop
That’s why I called you out for baiting
PEdit: hai Tor, pls be active

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't really know anyone other than gamma and I can't read gamma

Wait what

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Im calling you scum cuz I felt like you lied on me.

Town lie. Lying isn’t a scumtell.

Dude like I’ve already asked you earlier. Start taking this game seriously.

Why would you lie on him as town?

Hello mr. gasoline man.

Throwing gas on the fire. This post doesn’t seem like you want him to stop. I never once said I lied, so why would you ask me why I did if not to get a reaction out of me/rage?

Dude you can’t say “I never said I lied” when you call it a lie there
Like I agree that it’s probably a difference of opinion but you called it a lie right there and now you’re getting high and mighty about it not being a lie and having not called it that
As for that being throwing gas on the fire that wasn’t my intent. I thought you were confessing to it being a lie and I was questioning you. Since it’s just a difference of opinion idc about the question now. I don’t like how you ignore me calling what you’re doing baiting. Feels like dodging the point that hurts your FoS on me.

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I don't really know anyone other than gamma and I can't read gamma

Wait what

you think I can read you? I scum read you every single game we were both town in, even if momentarily so.

Heroes Wanted I don’t really blame you for
Don’t recall any other games off-hand here
MU: Weeb Waifu Wars I think you got a good read on me, but that might be my role having made me obvtown
It’d if you were in Assassin’s Creed Mafia

[Gamma Emerald]

I think I might have misread your post actually now that you say that. I thought you were calling what Ezekiel was accusing you of a town lie.

[Gamma Emerald]

yeah this is what i said

Town lie. Lying isn’t a scumtell.

it was basically me bringing this post back up again

lying isn’t a scumtell. People need to get over the “omg he lied so he must be scum”.

lies are usually lies. They are opinions or misrememberings or something else completely. Town and scummbith do it and stupid fights break out about it. Look for true scum motivation.

I didn't admit to lying, I don't think i did. Do I have a different opinion of his play than he has of his own? absolutely but that doesn't make me a liar and it certainly doesn't make me scum. Maybe it makes me a shitty dude with a bad memory which is probably closer to the truth.

Okay
Does that make what I was saying clearer?

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and that should be "lies aren't usually lies"

I really wish rage would take a step back and regroup. That is all I haved wanted from him the entire game. He doesn't want to do that, that's fine but now he wants to completely ignore me like I don't exist and that isn't fine.

I have questions I would like answered.

Ezekiel just said he’d ignore you
This is why I think you’re baiting him

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So I was wrong saying that ProHawk was lurking in the other game he was in with me in the past
But I do think his posting was pretty evidently wolfy that game so I’ll probably ISO dive him here and compare

[Gamma Emerald]

you're having a great game outside of being clearly pissed with ezekel before the game even started and that's letting you go off rails with garbage no one needs to read tbh

I don't care about your grudge and I'm not asking ezekel dick, alright? IDK why that's even relevant anyway. sometimes the WAY people do things is scummy outside of just the actions. guerilla's posting is different than gamma's posting. gamma is nuanced, calm, smart. guerilla is not those things x10.

I actually cane into this game with no ill will towards anyone. Rage is new and clearly inexperienced. He went off the rails because he didn’t agree with my opinion of him. He did something this game that seemed different then the other game and I said something cause it was noteworthy

you don't think a new inexperienced player like him would be scum here, do you?

Actually I do. But I can’t go into it without referencing the other game which I’m not allowed to do even if it’s over.

Why not? Normally if a game is over it’s fine to talk about it

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you've been both fine IMO and this is overmodding

we leave it for postgame

at any rate I think ezekel is town and I don't think lying is necessarily a scummy thing to do, unless ofc it's about your alignment

You know what I’m gonna take a different tack than the last time I was in a game where the mod overmodded. Instead of getting mad at the mod I’m just considering Doughboy mod-spewed town. It’s what happened when I overmodded and I think it’s more than fair here, and I doubt I’m screwing up my read here.

[Gamma Emerald]

I think Ezekiel’s read on me is town indicative
Not for how he’s reading me, but for how he phrased it

[Gamma Emerald]

Np. I woke up today and saw 5 new pages then rolled my eyes so, can't imagine what 30's been like.

Right now I think we should collectively wait.

Deadline is somewhat close; why?

[Gamma Emerald]

I was in Scumteam UnPick for a time. I ended up replacing out and getting replaced by Ms Colombo

[Gamma Emerald]

I was in Scumteam UnPick for a time. I ended up replacing out and getting replaced by Ms Colombo

Go actually read that game and tell me what you find.

Already did that buddy
I’m gonna go see whether you’ve reached the post where that happened

[Gamma Emerald]

Possible
But the shade I’m getting from that post is pretty hefty

[Gamma Emerald]

So I was wrong saying that ProHawk was lurking in the other game he was in with me in the past
But I do think his posting was pretty evidently wolfy that game so I’ll probably ISO dive him here and compare

You mean this post? YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO ISO DRIVE ME AND THERE WHAT DID YOU FIND?!?!?!?!?!?

Thought I posted my findings
Your posts there look very scum-motivated, at least in hindsight (like how you were pushing me on mechanics only)

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: ProHawk
I ISOd him and I think he’s rather defensive

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah defensive means defensive. Might I interest you in a dictionary?
But to be less facetious I feel the way you’re reacting to pressure just seems like you’re on edge
PEdit: Not always. You don’t have to get up in arms about people questioning you. I have times where I can understand how I’m doing poorly.

[Gamma Emerald]

side note, I thank the mod for the recent VC, but this site doesn't have an automated VC? That seems like it would be very easy to implement. Sort of like how mafia universie has?

a VC on every page top automatically would be awesome.

There are like 3 auto VC tools developed for the site using external apps
Unfortunately one of them probably won’t work here

[Gamma Emerald]

gamma might be scum?

Is this for not announcing L-1
I don’t know if I was aware of that, don’t think I was

[Gamma Emerald]

Who was going to give me that dictionary? Pretty sure Doughboy just defined asshole for me right there...

That was me
Nice brick joke though. I like your style and hope I haven’t alienated you.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma didn't actually go back and look at my scum game, or at least brushed it off after it didn't fit their hypothesis instead of using it to rethink their position. My play between this game and that game is STARKLY different and didn't even process those differences except to say that it wasnt what they thought.

I absolutely did, and I don’t like you continuing to shade me with lies.

[Gamma Emerald]

So I was wrong saying that ProHawk was lurking in the other game he was in with me in the past
But I do think his posting was pretty evidently wolfy that game so I’ll probably ISO dive him here and compare

You mean this post? YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO ISO DRIVE ME AND THERE WHAT DID YOU FIND?!?!?!?!?!?

Thought I posted my findings
Your posts there look very scum-motivated, at least in hindsight (like how you were pushing me on mechanics only)

Ta-fucking-Da!

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And yes you explained why my posts there looked scum (obv I was scum) but not how they compared.

I kinda agreed with tor about how your posts looked, just never said so because I’m a dummy
But I also felt you were defensive so I wanted to bring up that point

[Gamma Emerald]

I had nothing to do with that wagon

No you didn’t, nice reaction though

[Gamma Emerald]

I had nothing to do with that wagon

Mind explaining yourself on this mr first-on-the-wagon?

[Gamma Emerald]

I had nothing to do with that wagon

Mind explaining yourself on this mr first-on-the-wagon?

Yeah, I meant hammer. I pretty obviously had a lot to do with the wagon.

I was going to agree with this
But yeah you did 0% of the pushing here.

[Gamma Emerald]

To be honest if I can get all my townreads to vote with me im pretty confident in thy win

Who are you voting

[Gamma Emerald]

I don’t think so rn
While he’s suspicious, I don’t he’s been pushing scum agenda like I’m used to from scum!Flubber

[Gamma Emerald]

Cool, so you’re not going to make a statement about how good my judgment is

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma come vote Tommy with me.

Eh sure
VOTE: Tommy

[Gamma Emerald]

here comes another game where I patiently await the end game thread to tell everyone

I
TOLD
YOU
SO

This makes me think you’re scum tbh

[Gamma Emerald]

Anyways lets wait for the other peasants to post

Please stop using peasants, it makes me shudder

[Gamma Emerald]

Jfc did we seriously accidentally hammer someone.

Maybe we can get a redo or something

Question on this woo? Were you serious about this?

From your earlier posts iirc, you said you don't care who gets lynched.
So this reads like fake outrage/concern over the hammer.

I was sincere both times, go wild

What changed?

[Gamma Emerald]

One was a response to someone in my sus pool tryna tell me that switching votes is a sign of apathy, the other a response to an accidental hammer. Change isn't a factor.

So you didn’t care who

in your lynchpool

got lynched, but you were upset someone else was?

[Gamma Emerald]

Meh I thought he was killed for being universally townread

[Gamma Emerald]

Was he? The majority of his iso was fighting with rage. Seems like the perfect player to push a mislynch on from a scum perspective

Lets remember he was modspewed town

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma you gon get roped mate

You’re posting this after having implicitly treated me as town for all of day two. Why should I not suspect this?

[Gamma Emerald]

Is this all you have to say?? Who be scum Gamma? TOMMY?!

Well I think Flubber’s conclusions are good. So yeah, Tommy is a good vote imo

[Gamma Emerald]

Townreads in Alch and Flubber
Townleans on Ezekiel and Wilky
Everyone else is a suspect rn

[Gamma Emerald]

Where’d my vote go

[Gamma Emerald]

Not too sure on anyone atm
Saudade is a good candidate for scum too atm

Iirc it wasnt me who hammered town yesterday
Iirc i townread said slot
Iirc im the king anf ur not bow down peasant

Being right does not equal being town

[Gamma Emerald]

Not too sure on anyone atm
Saudade is a good candidate for scum too atm

Iirc it wasnt me who hammered town yesterday
Iirc i townread said slot
Iirc im the king anf ur not bow down peasant

Being right does not equal being town

yeah but you've said fuck all this day and yesterday

This is just untrue.

[Gamma Emerald]

oh yeah?
who is scum gamma

Just posted a read list
Reading is tech

[Gamma Emerald]

Go fuck yourself, I’m on mobile and that’s uncalled for spamming

[Gamma Emerald]

@mod could you edit that post down so it’s less of a pain on mobile!

[Gamma Emerald]

By process of elimination, I think it's two of Saudade, Gamma Emerald and Flubbernugget.

What PoE is this
And what makes you doubt Flubber’s claim?

[Gamma Emerald]

Why are you voting me?

Because you’re in my scum pool.
Why is everyone else town?

[Gamma Emerald]

EzekelRAGE is town because the mod intervened in his fight. Alchemist21, Toronaga and wilky are town because they always post pro-town stuff. GuerillaWoo is more complicated but keeps town-telling.

What exactly about those 3’s posting is towntelling? I agree an Alchemist, and Wilky too somewhat, but I don’t really know what Toranaga has done that is rather exceptional.
Also, what has GuerillaWoo done that is a towntell?

[Gamma Emerald]

Idk the things you’re presenting for Woo look like fence sitting

[Gamma Emerald]

So rather than engage my points you redirect to another read explanation.
I’m fine voting you.

[Gamma Emerald]

I said what you’d quoted from Woo looked like fence sitting to me and you didn’t even acknowledge, you just went on to exhibit B. Looks kinda shady to me. As for what determines my lynchpool, it’s all the people I don’t townread. Pretty simple.
As for your actual points on me, post 91 was me trying to imply that the back-and-forths seemed meaningless. Post 890 I probably could have been more specific but I also think that left it open for people to discuss more. As for me saying Flubber was suspicious, that was because he’d tried to disassociate himself from the wagon. I’m not going to say that’s not a suspicious action.

[Gamma Emerald]

it’s all the people I don’t townread.

And who are they?

I just posted this
Reading is tech²

[Gamma Emerald]

You mean 1182? So you have four equally scummy scumreads?

Maybe? I don’t really have them sorted out rn, maybe later but the way you’re poking at it makes me feel like you’re trying to scumpaint it

[Gamma Emerald]

Accidental quotes are not SHROOPs

[Gamma Emerald]

for stepping up for me early in the game
its been quite a while since i dont remember the exact details

what does this mean?

[Gamma Emerald]

Townreads in Alch and Flubber
Townleans on Ezekiel and Wilky
Everyone else is a suspect rn

This is about what I’m thinking
I recalled Tora also struck as town for his treatment of me
So Tora and Wilky are probably a tier below Ezekiel in townreads
Everything else is p much in the same state

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma didn't actually go back and look at my scum game, or at least brushed it off after it didn't fit their hypothesis instead of using it to rethink their position. My play between this game and that game is STARKLY different and didn't even process those differences except to say that it wasnt what they thought.

I absolutely did, and I don’t like you continuing to shade me with lies.

prohawk was already hammered, declared himself town and was talking it out during twilight. gamma is on such an automatic OMGUS mode that he starts pushing prohawk with it

ok I'm re-reading EOD and I forgot how scummy gamma was.

What OMGUS mode are you talking about?

[Gamma Emerald]

why would you push hammered self declared town who is talking things out in twilight?

I don’t think I registered the town declaration? Even then it could just be impeding twilight planning as scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

it didn't register to you that the hammered person who kept posting his thoughts ITT was town? even if you miss the post where they self declare town, just what is the plan for him as scum there? spew? and even if you're considering this possibility, can you not tone read him as town the way he was approaching it? why would hammered scum push you? what's the strategy?

To cause confusion most likely. It’s what I’d do.

[Gamma Emerald]

About what?

[Gamma Emerald]

Well I guess I’m not a reasonable player
Go read Large 210 starting where I replace in

[Gamma Emerald]

Bleh I still think Flubber is town but cbb to defend him
Just know he’s town mmkay?

[Gamma Emerald]

days without lynching gamma: 20

Why are you pushing me in this weak manner?

[Gamma Emerald]

Someone say something controversial

I hate [insert group of people here]

[Gamma Emerald]

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=76649
viewtopic.php?f=53&t=69502
viewtopic.php?f=53&t=71640
A few Flubbernugget scumgames
The statement I made is a bit gut-based but I feel like I am right with it

[Gamma Emerald]

That second one is fun because I pushed a cop in a few similar ways to how guerilla was pushing me

Massive has some mad pr skill, extra respect

Expand on that point? That probably makes GW scum if what you see is true

[Gamma Emerald]

Yes. But the problem is, I claimed, and massive didnt.

So the ultimate question becomes, "Does guerilla make a push this brazenly bad as scum?"

Well the was also HellloooNewman’s claim that game so maybe that could be worth a look into

[Gamma Emerald]

So Gamma, can you pick whichever one of those games illustrates your point best and tell me what agenda Flubbernugget was pushing in that game?

Not really? As I said, kinda a gut analysis. How about you look at them and tell me if you disagree that the games look different?

[Gamma Emerald]

I need to look for a 3rd scum now. Hmmm

?

[Gamma Emerald]

Fair

[Gamma Emerald]

As I said, kinda a gut analysis.

Do you have any other reasons for believing Flubbernugget to be town in this game?

Mod, I'll be V/LA until Sunday evening.

Well the wagon on him felt incredibly easy for one thing
Also, nice to see you dodging actually doing any analysis
Can we get more votes on Tommy please?

[Gamma Emerald]

Ngl I forgot about this game for a bit
I think I might reread with a few of my townreads left alone and see what conclusions I reach

[Gamma Emerald]

hey we all here

what's up fellas

hi gamma, I think you're scum

I think you’re Town
Like, I know your read on me. What does restating it do?

[Gamma Emerald]

Since we're all men here I'd like to say that I've got a big d and it's no lie

we interact in real time and that always helps

Bruh I’m prolly gonna have a hard time real time interacting tonight

[Gamma Emerald]

Weird extra quote

[Gamma Emerald]

I think Gamma has grown to like me
funny enough his reaction to me in our first game was much like Guerilla's

That’s why I made the comment about his method not working: I saw past!me in what he was doing.

So I started my reread
This was a misattribution on my part: I mis attributed something Tommy said as something GuerillaWoo said
Also the rubric I’m using here is Flubber and Alchemist are not getting reset in my reads, everyone else is (though it’s closer to a refresh than a reset)
I think Saudade’s posting up to this point is towny
Don’t like GW’s posting
Everyone else I haven’t noted anything that made me think one way or another, at least enough to be worth commenting on

[Gamma Emerald]

1) he brought it up in response to my misreading of your posts
2) you two clearly have a lingering dispute
3) I honestly just see this as him being unwilling to admit to a mistake

I'm not scumreading him but I'm not town reading him anymore tbh

Ohkay this is gross Garciaing
Alch doesn’t get called out because his was obv jokey de-escalation

[Gamma Emerald]

Doughboy seems townie.

VOTE: Saudade

Yeah no this is coasting at its finest

[Gamma Emerald]

What is this “we?” You’re not putting your vote where your mouth is, which is what I kinda expected.

Your response to Gamma’s vote on Dva was to agree with the wagon, then throw shade on a ton of other slots and vote none of them. I thought it was scummy because it looked like you were just paying lip service to the wagon without actually wanting to be on it, and that post right there proves it.

Guerilla is scum.

VOTE: GuerillaWoo

Yeah I think a GW-Wilky team makes sense
GW acts all hype for the DVa wagon but doesn’t contribute shit, and he also shaded all those other people

[Gamma Emerald]

I only have one vote, and it's Tommy, for reasons I've already explained. Go read them over peasant

Side thing
Saudade using the word peasant kinda salts me, like with his tone it feels so facetious

[Gamma Emerald]

Garciaing is answering questions not directed at you, and it’s a scumtell (idk exactly why but I’ve done it plenty of times so I think it’s a good tell).

[Gamma Emerald]

1) he brought it up in response to my misreading of your posts
2) you two clearly have a lingering dispute
3) I honestly just see this as him being unwilling to admit to a mistake

I'm not scumreading him but I'm not town reading him anymore tbh

Ohkay this is gross Garciaing
Alch doesn’t get called out because his was obv jokey de-escalation

Will you ever stop sniffing his butt or what


Still not seeing you labeling your readlists properly. Wanna talk about that? About how you sheeped alchie but didn't actually understand his accusation so you accused me of being scum for improper post labeling?

Do I have to post “OMFG THIS IS A READLIST”? No. When I posted a readlist I formatted it properly so it came across clearly. If YOU can’t tell that, that’s YOUR problem, not mine.

[Gamma Emerald]

Ok
Still think it’s pretty shady
Like why wouldn’t you state it was a read list in the post?

You write a massive wall with some reads sprinkled in with no preface to it
I made an individual post that was just reads
Try harder scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

Lol yeah remember how you didn't actually read it and told me it wasn't a readlist cuz it had no town reads but it did

Are you actually going to try to at least look like you're scumhunting or is your scumgame always this easy

OMGUS harder

LOL what OMGUS
I've reset my reads for the most part, and as of where I'm at rereading you haven't pushed me
so keep pushing BS

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah that's a good wagon. Ditto LTVN or even Doughboy. Although I think DB's being a little confident if he's scum, but I dunno I also feel like Alchemist could easily be faking his good will.

Same with Saudade, although coming in to push someone without engaging me and deferring people off my wagon makes me think he's more anti-town than scum looking for an easy lynch.

I like Tommy's vibe though, don't think our focus should go there.

The post is all reads, all admit that, but it's horribly mis-communicated. When I posted mine it was (imo, apparently no one else can do simple reading) very clear that the post was constructed to convey reads

Townreads in Alch and Flubber
Townleans on Ezekiel and Wilky

Everyone else is a suspect rn

See how I put each tier on its own line? THAT is how you make your reads clear. You can also make it a line break for each player. Posting in paragraph form is NOT clear. GW continually hiding behind this is scummy imo.

[Gamma Emerald]

Dude I don't think you realize I don't give a shit whether you label your posts or not. I just wanted to see how you'd react when you're accused of making shallow reads. Your defensiveness speaks volumes here.

I'm not hiding behind anything. I literally brought it up. Projecting much

You didn't call my reads shallow FUCKING ONCE. Nice. Motherfucking. Try.
VOTE: GuerillaWoo
I'm not moving this 99% of the time

[Gamma Emerald]

what's all this barking you're doing

by the gods am I really that good
is it Tommy and Gambit

yanno i was wrong, i am gonna get along with u fine

lolno
town have a tendency to stick to reads even when being disproven. This lacks that pretty severely

[Gamma Emerald]

opportunistic jump on the wagon

There was barely a wagon to begin with it was just a handful of random votes.

Thanks mate, but I was fourth on the wagon.

I thought the case on GuerillaWoo is pretty good until I got to post 258, which is very town.

I don't believe either of Saudade's 'town slips' about the set-up.

Not ready to go back to DVa yet. Let's get some more posts from them first. Don't think there's much of a case on LTVNGambit either.

Meh don't like this from tommy, could be scum

[Gamma Emerald]

Well that only emphasizes my point

btw while the slips don't really mean anything the way Saudade carries on after them is towny imo

[Gamma Emerald]

does the vote make you uncomfortable Tommy?

I think this post makes a good point

[Gamma Emerald]

Saudade (5) - Doughboy, LTVNGambit, Tommy, GuerillaWoo, DVa
The peak of the wagon
I think it’s probably at least one of LTVNGambit or DVa, with Tommy also under consideration

Switch LTVN with GW and that's my scumreads as of this point

[Gamma Emerald]

You switch between townreading me n scumreading me n its very confusing
Does it depend on the day of the week

It depends on what part of your play I'm focusing on
when you started being uber-confident during today I thought you could be playing the same way you did in large 215
but otherwise, I think your play is towny

[Gamma Emerald]

I dont remember large 215
Did i win as scum there

Yes
and you called one of your buddies scum and waved that over everyone in endgame

[Gamma Emerald]

Meh don't like this from tommy, could be scum

Want to give some more details about what you don't like in my post? Or is it another gut thing?

I don't like the way you're deferring attention from DVa

[Gamma Emerald]

Dude I don't think you realize I don't give a shit whether you label your posts or not. I just wanted to see how you'd react when you're accused of making shallow reads. Your defensiveness speaks volumes here.

I'm not hiding behind anything. I literally brought it up. Projecting much

You didn't call my reads shallow FUCKING ONCE. Nice. Motherfucking. Try.
VOTE: GuerillaWoo
I'm not moving this 99% of the time

Lol then what's saying that you sheeped Alchie but couldn't actually understand the basis of his read so came up with "u didn't label it a readlist"?

Why so mad? Hit a nerve did I?

I ctrl-f’d the word reads, and while that showed up I didn’t realize that’s what you meant
It’s still changing the goal posts as you never explicitly used the word

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay I wasn’t pissed UNTIL you posted that wall.

[Gamma Emerald]

Let’s start with this.
What the FUCK is your definition of shallow? Because I think those reads are at least somewhat deep so either your definition is off, your standards are off, or you’re stretching.

[Gamma Emerald]

Haha how is it that every time you fling your shit at me you end up walking it back

Maybe
It's cuz
You're not reading

Like why are you explaining yourself to me right now

Tell me why is it that I'm conveniently scum for not voting wilky only when a wagon formed on him

Idrc about current gamestate, but keep on pushing your faulty narrative

[Gamma Emerald]

@Doughboy what do you think of these recent posts by Saudade? he was re-evaluating reads and it kinda seemed a little townie but idk, then he went right back to fluffposting

This feels icky
Several times as town I’ve given the occasional silly post is a serious period
So it’s conceivable others play like this

[Gamma Emerald]

Oooh it's a narrative now.

Shallow, superficial, not engaging content, skimming posts and forming confident reads off them while pretending you read them only to later backpedal when you're called out.

Saying shit like "town has a tendency to stick to reads even when being disproven" only to then literally say "ok, but I didn't realize that's what you meant".

When you read the above paragraph, btw, I'm pretty sure your playstyle here dictates that you use your "99% of the time" statement to disagree, using the fact that your vote's on me to defend backpedaling every time.

And at the endgame you're gonna look back at this and realize: this was your mistake. This is what shallowness looks like.

Good enuff a definition for ya bud?

It’s A definition. I’d call it wrong but honestly it’s more you’re calling my reads shallow when from this post it looks like you consider my PLAY shallow.

[Gamma Emerald]

Page 57

thinking we should do wilky if he's not the claimed doc

Flubber is the doc

Dude I don't think you realize I don't give a shit whether you label your posts or not. I just wanted to see how you'd react when you're accused of making shallow reads. Your defensiveness speaks volumes here.

I'm not hiding behind anything. I literally brought it up. Projecting much

You didn't call my reads shallow FUCKING ONCE. Nice. Motherfucking. Try.
VOTE: GuerillaWoo
I'm not moving this 99% of the time

???

What's going on?

GW keeps changing the reason he’s pushing me, which is scummy

[Gamma Emerald]

oh I gotta deal with a likely TvT

Why are you calling it a TvT when you’ve barely read it

[Gamma Emerald]

Word definitions aren’t fucking subjective
You using the wrong term maybe...? Like, the next-to-last paragraph looks like you’re calling my play shallow. Maybe I’m looking at it a little sideways, I can see the reads thing if I factor that out.

[Gamma Emerald]

If you want to convince me otherwise, down down there.

?

[Gamma Emerald]

lol jfc it's vote count, literally the acronym the mod posts every time he tallies

Also I've literally posted more joke posts than Saudade. Like he even posted that pic in response to my joke. Why does he get "reconsidered" and not me? Why am I your town read? Ignore his Mila Kunis joke, what made you scum read him and then almost change your mind?

Meh this post could be Town
But GW has still been changing the goalposts which I will not ignore

[Gamma Emerald]

won't wanna know what it means

Tell. Me.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm just mulling over this exchange rn. I honestly don't know if he's lying or not here. Like I think he genuinely doesn't understand that it wasn't directed at him, but I dunno, he could just be saving face. Like he knew he was lying earlier and now he's trying to play up the VI card? Does that make sense?

I dunno. UNVOTE: for now. Like if he were scum, what would the point be in in blatantly drawing attention to himself with these big VI gestures? If I were to assume he were scum this would be a very public and risky gambit play.

Although it's not like I haven't seen bigger gambits, I've used the VI routine myself, and AS TOWN.

Legit don't know what to think here. Is he really not seeing it? How? Is anyone else here reading that post up there the way he is?

Why not reconsider when someone else brought this up before? This feels a little posturey
And oh fucking man I’m already getting ready to tear into your most recent post

[Gamma Emerald]

GW keeps changing the reason he’s pushing me, which is scummy

So I take it this is your scum partner?


It's called having more than one reason, silly. Having a fingerprint and then DNA isn't "moving the goalposts", it's a rich read. You'd know about that if you were town and weren't trying to throw out every excuse. I didn't read it, that's not my definition, actually you never called my reads shallow, actually it's not my reads it's my PLAY, you're scum cuz you didn't include town reads and just shaded everyone, actually you did include town reads but you didn't label it a readlist so how was I supposed to know

How was i, a poor humble towny like the rest of you, supposed to know being called someone who hops on wagons without reading the posts or understanding the reads is akin to making shallow reads

Town never admits to being wrong. Actually what I meant was 99% of the time they don't, I used that number recently and it's definitely connected

Bruh

Fucking “fingerprints and DNA”
You need to quit mafia if you think what you have is even 1% similar to that. The only thing you can call “fingerprints and DNA” is something mechanical/role based in all but one scenario afaik. You acting like this case is worth that is outright hilarious.
Honestly Idk if I even want to dignify the rest of this post with a response based on that

[Gamma Emerald]

@GW this is where

@Gorilla
I dont think scum starts such ridiculous fabricated pushes, hes probably just.. wrong town

Tommy on the other hand
MMMMMMMMM
such delicious lynch bait

Saudade says the same thing about his push just being too much sticking his neck out

[Gamma Emerald]

maybe we can talk about other players while talking with me.

Thought on Tor/Ezekiel?

[Gamma Emerald]

I just isolated everyone in turn, and all the people who've posted substantial content seem at least somewhat townish at the moment. Which probably means someone is fooling me. Still null are DVa, ProHawk and Flubbernugget. I would park my vote on the DVa wagon, but he's so new he just looks like an easy target. And I'd have ProHawk for company.

More stalling around DVa
Maybe Creature is right about me v GW being tvt

[Gamma Emerald]

it'll be real cool if you two can vote wilky

Read the context of what Gamma's saying on this page then convince me he's not scum.

He's igniting a dead game with reads
wouldn't do that as scum would you

Dude's hopping through barely formed reads that he then walks back but then conventiently becomes incapable of reexamining his stance cuz "town doesn't change its mind when disproven", or some shit.

Dude literally set up his own barometer for bullshitting and made it so he never raises that alarm. Then he proceeded to bullshit by standards he didn't invent.

Okay yeah that’s fair. But I think the only read I’ve walked back is you, which is because our real-time interactions make me think you’re scum. Your content during the readthrough has been going both ways.

[Gamma Emerald]

@GW this is where

@Gorilla
I dont think scum starts such ridiculous fabricated pushes, hes probably just.. wrong town

Tommy on the other hand
MMMMMMMMM
such delicious lynch bait

Saudade says the same thing about his push just being too much sticking his neck out

Bud you're so full of shit you're bloating. Nothing to do with my reasoning.

Like I’d reconsider but then things like this happen
One sec

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm just mulling over this exchange rn. I honestly don't know if he's lying or not here. Like I think he genuinely doesn't understand that it wasn't directed at him, but I dunno, he could just be saving face. Like he knew he was lying earlier and now he's trying to play up the VI card? Does that make sense?

I dunno. UNVOTE: for now.

Like if he were scum, what would the point be in in blatantly drawing attention to himself with these big VI gestures? If I were to assume he were scum this would be a very public and risky gambit play.

Although it's not like I haven't seen bigger gambits, I've used the VI routine myself, and AS TOWN.

Legit don't know what to think here. Is he really not seeing it? How? Is anyone else here reading that post up there the way he is?

The highlighted is exactly what Saudade was referring to

[Gamma Emerald]

- Gamm votes Dva
- Guerilla calls it good wagon; also throws shade on a ton of other slots and doesn’t vote anyone
- I vote Dva
- Guerilla still doesn’t join (but talks as if he had)
- Guerilla proceeds to scum flail and attempt several scummy tactics to defend himself

That’s the in-a-nutshell version.

So uh, where in the holy fuck did I misrepresent this? Literally exactly what I described on the last page.

Hm.
Does anyone see the word misrepresent in this post? I don’t. Now it’s possible it was in another one, if it was w/e

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay yeah that’s fair. But I think the only read I’ve walked back is you, which is because our real-time interactions make me think you’re scum. Your content during the readthrough has been going both ways.

:/ i'm sorry my real time interactions with you make you think i'm scum but then once confronted you stare at the floor shuffle your feet and drop it.


we'll talk about it post game when you ask me what you did wrong as scum

Lol nothing you’re doing now is improving how you look to me

[Gamma Emerald]

LTVN and Gorilla seems like TvT

This also gets a

[Gamma Emerald]

Hm.
Does anyone see the word misrepresent in this post? I don’t. Now it’s possible it was in another one, if it was w/e

HAHAHA

"hey guys i found this thing so i'm gonna make a whole thing about it but if i'm wrong whatever cuz i just read over this part and i know i'm wrong but look at me i'm making readss!!! that's what town doesss!!!"

Fuck you. Go to fucking hell. I’m trying to take things into account since I do realize I have been backpedaling, but nope, every time I post you make it fit your narrative.
I’m done with this fucking charade. Prepare to get blasted.

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m a tracker. Tracked Flubbernugget last night after I realized he was voting ProHawk, saw him visit Alchemist. So his claimed target is true. THAT’s why I had him as locktown.

[Gamma Emerald]

holy shit you aren't even at L-3 yet


y'all, vote gamma. this is an absolute bullshit claim.

So? I’m just tired of this bullshit push which even if town is 100% conf bias.
PEdit: wtf me and Robb have played games before

[Gamma Emerald]

Anyway, I’m gonna get through page 20 then I’m gonna take a gd break because I need to get calm

[Gamma Emerald]

Alch is town
Gambit townlean
you null
Doughboy is the only one left...........
ignored everyone in this entire thread except for me and Gorilla
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

This is legit wrong
DB had a massive spat with ER, how do you miss that

[Gamma Emerald]

Lmao what scumslip

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah no if you’re trying to say what I think you are you’re off the mark
That post was address you trying to call claiming at L-3 scummy

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah no if you’re trying to say what I think you are you’re off the mark
That post was address you trying to call claiming at L-3 scummy

What am I saying, Gamma?

You might be thinking I’m responding to the whole post
I’m not, it’s just hard to indicate that quickly on mobile

[Gamma Emerald]

Alch is town
Gambit townlean
you null
Doughboy is the only one left...........
ignored everyone in this entire thread except for me and Gorilla
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

This is legit wrong
DB had a massive spat with ER, how do you miss that

who aren't you shading though. me, saudade, wilky, and tommy. go ahead, scumread DB, i'm waiting

"guys is this a read, am i reading"

Yeah no, I’m just asking him a question. Keep on building your narrative though.

[Gamma Emerald]

holy shit you aren't even at L-3 yet


y'all, vote gamma. this is an absolute bullshit claim.

So? I’m just tired of this bullshit push which even if town is 100% conf bias.
PEdit: wtf me and Robb have played games before

You are saying I wasn’t even at L-3 to discredit my claim, I responded with why I decided to claim before L-3.
If you take it as a response to the whole post, it includes the “bullshit claim” part which honestly is exactly opposite of the case. The evidence of my claim being true exists.

[Gamma Emerald]

Btw what have you read Creature

[Gamma Emerald]

Btw what have you read Creature

[Gamma Emerald]

Pls read day 1 at least

[Gamma Emerald]

holy shit you aren't even at L-3 yet


y'all, vote gamma. this is an absolute bullshit claim.

So? I’m just tired of this bullshit push which even if town is 100% conf bias.
PEdit: wtf me and Robb have played games before

You are saying I wasn’t even at L-3 to discredit my claim, I responded with why I decided to claim before L-3.
If you take it as a response to the whole post, it includes the “bullshit claim” part which honestly is exactly opposite of the case. The evidence of my claim being true exists.

Uhuh nope. You literally admitted to claiming to escape a push made by one person you're fucking voting for that you just townspewed. You god damn dolt.

actually we don't really need GW's vote anyway

dude i'm not lynching toranga lol open your eyes

Okay
The thing is it was getting detrimental to me rereading the game as I was spending a lot of time responding to you

[Gamma Emerald]

Wait Tor is L-1 since when

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma, help me out here. You wanted your fakeclaim to "blast" me cuz I'm scum but

my townie push on you justifies a claim because it's wrong?

Lotta math involved here just help me out

The highlighted was never said
At best it’s a massive misreading of what I have said

[Gamma Emerald]

Can’t find the post because it doesn’t exist, huh?

[Gamma Emerald]

But for real, Gamma buddy why all the aggression?? You were so docile and then blamo, had your little hissy fit and pretty much decided you'd tunnel me regardless of whether you know you're wrong. Hmm what did I say in particular that has her riled up so

So I was reading from the last VC to see where wagons were actually at and this struck me as weird due to things I remembered from rereading
Didn’t GW also flip his shit at some point? Seems a little closed-minded if so

[Gamma Emerald]

So like
Besides me and GW cross voting no votes have changed since the last VC

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh Gamma didnt replace into this game?

You thought I did because I was reading older posts?
Lol you missed me saying a couple times I was rereading

[Gamma Emerald]

I dont know I forgot who is what in this game already

Is say this makes your more towny
But then there’s the Incident With The Eager Snake, which I can never forget
If possible could you answer that question I asked btw

[Gamma Emerald]

Alch is town
Gambit townlean
you null
Doughboy is the only one left...........
ignored everyone in this entire thread except for me and Gorilla
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

This is legit wrong
DB had a massive spat with ER, how do you miss that

I meant this question