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Please guide me, new best friend.In post 13, shiki wrote:
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Yeah, I'm trying to change it soon.In post 28, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Your avatar reminds me of a yugioh card jakeShow"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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I've been observing this thread for a little bit now, and nothing interesting has been happening.
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It's something that I explained in my GTKAS...
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I think hammering for little reason right now is not helpful regardless of what your alignment is.In post 82, Rae wrote:if i hammer it will be for the funny and that's all. i have no opinion on anya beyond entertainment value
In the unlikely scenario that Anya flips scum, then I will need a few weeks just from the whiplash.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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Nope.In post 87, Sigmund wrote:jake have you ever lol-hammered a scumbag on page 4?Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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this is a weird overestimation especially if you've been reading my posts right now.In post 86, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
I think hammering for little reason right now is not helpful regardless of what your alignment is.In post 82, Rae wrote:if i hammer it will be for the funny and that's all. i have no opinion on anya beyond entertainment value
In the unlikely scenario that Anya flips scum, then I will need a few weeks just from the whiplash.
Nah, I am 100% sure I will experience whiplash if Anya flips scum here.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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What do you think Anya would flip here?In post 94, Rae wrote:
no i mean i can't gather that you've read my posts. i also think anya doesn't flip scum here. why are you saying you're gonna need to feel whiplashIn post 93, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Sneep
Nah, I am 100% sure I will experience whiplash if Anya flips scum here.
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My thoughts are irrelevant here.In post 98, Rae wrote:
don't you think this would flip town if ur asking me this. do they just give out perspective slips that easy today. the year of our lord 2021In post 97, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
What do you think Anya would flip here?In post 94, Rae wrote:
no i mean i can't gather that you've read my posts. i also think anya doesn't flip scum here. why are you saying you're gonna need to feel whiplashIn post 93, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Sneep
Nah, I am 100% sure I will experience whiplash if Anya flips scum here.
That was pretty much a joke, with a hint of truth because god damn if we actually managed to pile onto one of the 3 scum almost at randomly
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I am asking you a direct question here. If I wanted to divine what you thought based upon your posts, I would have done that.
What do you think Anya would flip here?
You've already said that Anya doesn't flip scum here, but are you sure they flip town, or are you unsure of what they flip as?Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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Rae, I will not stop asking you this question until you answer it.
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What do you think Anya would flip here?
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While you're in the process of implying that I have not read your post, let me pose another question to you:
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If you're going to axe Anya, at least make sure they claim first >->Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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Do you think we are in RVS?In post 114, Dwlee99 wrote:
She had 8 hours wdymIn post 113, Jake The Wolfie wrote:If you're going to axe Anya, at least make sure they claim first >->Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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VOTE: Sigmund
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I have a sneaking suspicion that I know your entire rolecard.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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Oh wow, who are they?In post 124, Sigmund wrote:wow i actually caught 2 wolf already easiest game of my lifeShow"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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That is literally amazing.In post 126, Sigmund wrote:you and anya
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I think that Anya is worth keeping around for now at this time. They've done some of their town-meta actions. I'd rather focus on someone other than Anya for now.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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please assume that i have also done some of my town-meta actionsIn post 133, Jake The Wolfie wrote:I think that Anya is worth keeping around for now at this time. They've done some of their town-meta actions. I'd rather focus on someone other than Anya for now.You fed my ego. You are a member of my forever-masonry
I'll have to look into you a little bit more. In the meantime, I'd like to make a PSA:
There was more than likely 1 scum player on Anya's wagon. Since there were 6 (5) players on their wagon, that pretty evenly splits the town into 2 groups, which both have at least 1 scum in each.
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I'd like to see some comments on this.In post 137, Jake The Wolfie wrote:In the meantime, I'd like to make a PSA:
There was more than likely 1 scum player on Anya's wagon. Since there were 6 (5) players on their wagon, that pretty evenly splits the town into 2 groups, which both have at least 1 scum in each.
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Are you an odd fellow at night?In post 149, Anya wrote:
can i swap groups with youIn post 146, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
I'd like to see some comments on this.In post 137, Jake The Wolfie wrote:In the meantime, I'd like to make a PSA:
There was more than likely 1 scum player on Anya's wagon. Since there were 6 (5) players on their wagon, that pretty evenly splits the town into 2 groups, which both have at least 1 scum in each.
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I'd like to have some other people posting that haven't talked.. much at all.
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..what? Could you please make that clearer?In post 177, Rae wrote:jake is more definably scummy. sigmund is just roleplaying.i figure if he's serious he will eventually stop. or maybe he'll keep doing it.i dont townread it but i also think he's baiting.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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Wrap up the conversation we're having here, wait a few hours for others to start posting, then integrate back in.In post 185, shiki wrote:
wait at least 10 hours and then what? do you want us to simply stop posting? until other people post? i am not followingIn post 183, Jake The Wolfie wrote:I think we should all agree to wait at least 10ish hours until the non-morning people wake up (aka everyone else)
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To add onto this-In post 192, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
Wrap up the conversation we're having here, wait a few hours for others to start posting, then integrate back in.In post 185, shiki wrote:
wait at least 10 hours and then what? do you want us to simply stop posting? until other people post? i am not followingIn post 183, Jake The Wolfie wrote:I think we should all agree to wait at least 10ish hours until the non-morning people wake up (aka everyone else)
I think that we are stagnating right now, because only a few people are posting.
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I believe that the groups I made contain at least one scum because I find it unlikely that the wagon was entirely driven by town, especially because I find some of the members on the wagon scummy (see: Sigmund). It is entirely possible that there were no scum on Anya's wagon, in which case my Group Hypothesis is incorrect, but I find this possibility unlikely.In post 197, shiki wrote:
i guess if you could explain why you think it is more likely that there is at least one scum in each instead of it being that those were the players active at the time as you are also concerned about activity windowsIn post 196, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Do any of you want me to explain my Group Theory any further or nah?
Essentially: It is unlikely that Anya got to E-1 given the circumstances of it (It happening in the early game) without scum players nudging the town to bandwagon.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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My Hypothesis does not give specifics on who might be scummy in particular, it only gives a framework for scumhunting in the future.In post 198, shiki wrote:
like all six votes are between posts 43 and 61 right so is it that there was someone posting in that time who you think should have been on the wagon and is not? and is therefore suspicious?In post 197, shiki wrote:
i guess if you could explain why you think it is more likely that there is at least one scum in each instead of it being that those were the players active at the time as you are also concerned about activity windowsIn post 196, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Do any of you want me to explain my Group Theory any further or nah?
The information gathered on the non-posters is gathered from omission. If we know there is at least 1 scum and at most 2 scum on Anya's wagon (something not too unreasonable to expect, considering the unusual bandwagoning), then because we also know there are 3 scum players, there must be at least 1 scum not on Anya's wagon.In post 199, shiki wrote:
i guess i do not understand how you could have gathered any information about the players not posting in the window eitherIn post 198, shiki wrote:
like all six votes are between posts 43 and 61 right so is it that there was someone posting in that time who you think should have been on the wagon and is not? and is therefore suspicious?In post 197, shiki wrote:
i guess if you could explain why you think it is more likely that there is at least one scum in each instead of it being that those were the players active at the time as you are also concerned about activity windowsIn post 196, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Do any of you want me to explain my Group Theory any further or nah?
Essentially: If we have good reason to believe that there is 1-2 scum on Anya's wagon, then we have reason to believe that there is at least 1 scum off of her wagon.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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Technically speaking Anya could be mafia, and thus satisfy the 1 scum requirement of my hypothesis.In post 201, shiki wrote:
doesn't this assume that anya is town and also why would it not be possible that all three mafia are on the wagon i guess i am still struggling to see the conclusions here as more than 'these are the players on the wagon' and they each have 'less than random' chance of being mafia even though you say it is unlikely to be town drivenIn post 200, Jake The Wolfie wrote:I believe that the groups I made contain at least one scum because I find it unlikely that the wagon was entirely driven by town, especially because I find some of the members on the wagon scummy (see: Sigmund). It is entirely possible that there were no scum on Anya's wagon, in which case my Group Hypothesis is incorrect, but I find this possibility unlikely.
Essentially: It is unlikely that Anya got to E-1 given the circumstances of it (It happening in the early game) without scum players nudging the town to bandwagon.
I'm not saying that it is literally impossible for all of the mafia to be on the wagon, but that result is unlikely.
The reason why I think that it is unlikely that Anya's wagon was town driven was because of how easily she got to E-1 without much objection. Usually town are not that cooperative in executing another member, especially in the very early game.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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Look past "These are the people on the wagon"In post 204, shiki wrote:you have just created groups that give the same weight to players who were inactive at the time of the wagon as to players who were active and not on the wagon and that doesn't seem like the best way to apply the data gained from the wagon if you are going to try to do so and everyone on the wagon is considered the same;
not hectic's only post is their contribution to the wagon; should we really consider that the same as anya's self-vote in terms of likelihood of being mafia?
there are just so many of these to make your groupings mean almost exactly 'these are the players on the wagon' to me
Ignore their names. Ignore who could've been reasonably been online at the time and who couldn't've been.
All of that is irrelevant.
The Primary idea you need to believe is that it is unlikely, given the specific circumstances of Anya's wagon, that there were 0 scum on her wagon.
The Secondary idea you need to believe is that scum players tend to not push all at once on a wagon, to try and avoid association tells, which means it is unlikely that there were 3 scum on her wagon.
Putting both of these ideas together, you get to the conclusion that there was at least 1 scum on Anya's wagon.
If you believe the Primary and Secondary ideas of my hypothesis, then the following structure emerges:
All players on Anya's wagon can be placed into one group. We know that there is at least 1 scum in this group.
Everyone else can be placed into another group. We know that there is at least 1 scum in this group, because there is a minimum of 1 scum unaccounted for (if we assume that the first group had the maximum amount of scum it could contain)
That is essentially it. If you believe idea P and idea S, then the conclusion leads you to thee two groups mentioned in my first post about this.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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That's not what I said. I said that we should wait 10is hours to wait for others to join in, and then I added onto that by saying that we should try to wrap up and conversations we were having.In post 208, Dwlee99 wrote:Until the magical day comes where all the scum are on or off the wagon and this conversation is accomplishing nothing. Didn't you say we should stop posting until morning?Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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Good Afternoon, everyone!
I had a 12-hour sleep, and I feel very well rested.
I've read everything up to this point, and I'll get to responding to it after I don't have to blink to unblur my vision.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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I would also like this answered. I will accept "I have none" as an acceptable answer.In post 223, humaneatingmonkey wrote:but what's your actual reads, Sigmund?
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I already knew that it was fake because Sigmund moved their vote from Anya's wagon while I was around to see it.In post 229, Dwlee99 wrote:I still don't have an answer to why Jake reacted like he did to a very poorly executed fake hammer.
This post was meant to point out that you should at least get Anya's claim before you execute her.
That post was a direct question pointed at you, because I honestly wanted to know whether you thought we were still in RVS.
I wouldn't go so far as to be open-wolfing, but so far his actions are not great.In post 239, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Sigmund is openwolfing. He doesn't even have reads.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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Hey Sigmund, you too can get a pagetop!
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I don't scumread him, but he isn't acting in a Townie way. I'll try to do a meta dive on him to see if this is just normal town behaviour.In post 254, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
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As I stated earlier, my Group Hypothesis does not state who is or is not scum, all it states is that between the Anya voters, there is at least 1 scum and there is at most 2 scum.In post 255, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
Yes but the exercise of making 2 groups really did seem to me like fake scumhuntingIn post 249, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Would you agree that it is unlikely that no scum were online to participate?Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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Where is your mind currently at on the game, Sigmund?
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I think we should move on from Sigmund now. Even if they are scum, it would be better if we got other people involved in the conversation.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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Hem, I understand you want to get information from Sigmund, but he doesn't seem willing to give it up. Can we please move onto someone else?Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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That's fair. I would like to Discuss Johnny, who seemed to ignore my question. Any thoughts on that?In post 274, shiki wrote:
if you are going to traffic direct you also have to drive otherwise it feels for showIn post 269, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Hem, I understand you want to get information from Sigmund, but he doesn't seem willing to give it up. Can we please move onto someone else?
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Could you elaborate on this?In post 281, T3 wrote:Okay sigmund is town.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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Do you think this is a usual game?In post 283, T3 wrote:
It's the deliberate attention grabbing stuff scum usually want to avoid early game.In post 282, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
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Sigmund seems to be acting consistently here. Without knowing what their main is (if they are an alt), I can't conclusively say for sure if this is for this one game, or if they have any completed games that I can drool over.
I checked to see if he had a wiki page, but he didn't.
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Do you have any thoughts about the game, not regarding Sigmund?In post 285, Anya wrote:sigmund could be town but i have no clue what his goal is with his flopping around on the ground like a fishShow"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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Nah, that's not what I'm getting at all.In post 289, T3 wrote:I assume anya is claiming odd night doc....
In fact, Anya claimed to be a Vanilla Townie in this game where she was much later revealed to be a Macho Traffic Analyst.
Now, I understand not wanting to claim what your actual role is, seeing as she was Macho, but her being a doctor (or any protective role) would indicate that she is the only protective role.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
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Just 1ish hour until opposit3s gets prodded..
We should start a push on a lurker to get them to talk.
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