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I would like to VOTE: nero cain pleaseIn post 185, Galron wrote:
Can you add some words to that vote? It doesn't look like an RVS vote.In post 151, geraintm wrote:well, Not Mafia certainly makes the game different. But i am 100% sure we shall be able to work out their alignment sooner rather than later so i am not going to worry about them.
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Nope,none at allIn post 256, Nero Cain wrote:oh look gera is joining another bandwagon. nothing suspicious about that.-
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Um, I have no interest in the not Mafia conversation. I usually like having them in games because they are pretty good at knowing when I am town, and I am pretty sure if they are scum it will become obvious sooner or later. The entire chat about them.was a waste and most people taking part in it should have known better.In post 259, angela wrote:
do you haveIn post 251, geraintm wrote:Kittytack is getting attention because they are one of the few players willing to try and explain their reasoning, and so just easy to keep pressure on them
VOTE: kitty
any other thoughts on the game so far?
Apart from that it is the usual day 1 uselessness-
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In post 259, angela wrote:
do you haveIn post 251, geraintm wrote:Kittytack is getting attention because they are one of the few players willing to try and explain their reasoning, and so just easy to keep pressure on them
VOTE: kitty
any other thoughts on the game so far?
Um, my experience is they are utterly useless day 1, they think anyone who says they are useful is lying to.thrmselves and they believe that no elimination would serve town better but no one agrees with that.In post 265, angela wrote:
also interested in anyone else with experience with geraintm weighing in on thisIn post 264, angela wrote:
do you have much experience with geraintm?In post 256, Nero Cain wrote:oh look gera is joining another bandwagon. nothing suspicious about that.
and if so,
would you say that town!geraintm generally functions under a blanket
"wagons are good"
playstyle?
Gets marginally better as the game goes on but can often get an idea fixed in their head and blow the game for town-
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It can be made to appear summy by those who want to, because you are one of the few players giving out stuff to work with.In post 284, KittyTacky wrote:
And how on Earth is being willing to explain my reasoning scummy? I really don't get yours.In post 251, geraintm wrote:Kittytack is getting attention because they are one of the few players willing to try and explain their reasoning, and so just easy to keep pressure on them
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I was fairly sure I had random voted my Normal way...In post 293, Morning Tweet wrote:In post 290, Galron wrote:Ive been inactively lurking. I've been playing with Gerry since his return to the site 2 - 2 1/2 years ago. His RVS vote is nearly always the nth player after his first post (he uses a die). This game he made a vote and then another blind vote without giving any indication why he made that second vote. His initial post usually consists of a number like 8, which means he's going to vote the 8th person after he posts. He didn't do that this game. He voted someone and then blindly voted another. I haven't caught up with his recent stuff so I don't know. The please put some words to that blind vote was an attempt to understand why he voted the way he did.In post 31, geraintm wrote:Amazing, not gonna lie, feeling some Emotions now game has finally started.
Waited so long for this to start.
Anyways, today's number is 9?
Thanks for that-
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In post 31, geraintm wrote:Amazing, not gonna lie, feeling some Emotions now game has finally started.
Waited so long for this to start.
Anyways, today's number is 9i am really, really confused by anyone who thinks my initial vote was not the exact same way i vote every time.
i said 9 in my first post - post 31
i then quoted post 40 - (31+9=40) and voted for the person who made that post.
I am going to have to stop my fun with my other votes though before i distract everyone too much.
I am literally just voting the biggest wagon. I did it in another game once but no one noticed it there, but it amuses me to go along with my general opinion of chaotic Day 1s-
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bugger, if Not Mafia thinks im scum then i am in trouble...In post 503, Not_Mafia wrote:Galron/geraintm/Andres-
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whoops, did i post in the wrong place?In post 540, Not_Mafia wrote:
Was this meant for your scum PT?In post 539, geraintm wrote:
bugger, if Not Mafia thinks im scum then i am in trouble...In post 503, Not_Mafia wrote:Galron/geraintm/Andres-
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this is a more confusing post and vote than even mine on kittyIn post 537, KittyTacky wrote:
The cardinal sin of defending yourself when pushed...In post 531, Rathe wrote:the more kitty talks about people suspecting him the more defensive he gets n the more suspicious i get
VOTE: Scorpious-
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liking someone's reads on day 1 and promoting them for it is just like...the worst twice removed logic going. stop it
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In post 548, angela wrote:
guess both of you hmIn post 541, Scorpious wrote:
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The cardinal sin of defending yourself when pushed...In post 531, Rathe wrote:the more kitty talks about people suspecting him the more defensive he gets n the more suspicious i get
VOTE: Scorpious
that was the previous post, and it mentions Scorpiuos, but i dunno how they means in the next post they then vote for them?In post 536, KittyTacky wrote:
It was an expression of exasperation.In post 420, Andresvmb wrote:I felt the “Christ” was condescending. Perhaps sarcastic isn’t the exact term. Whichever way you prefer to describe it, I would argue it isn’t equal to an overreaction. If you think someone has bad logic, and you highlight that bad logic by using a remark like there, and then you put a vote down, at most you could argue that the reasoning is bad, or you could say that you disagree. But an overreaction? The accusation seems incorrect. Look if you want me to further that thought - I think Scorpious is using a rather innocuous post to cast shade onto a slot in a way I disagree with. How about that?-
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And I stand by the "pretty much how most players" means day 1 such and should be somehow eliminated. Someone posts a list kf reads they have confidence in - which they cannot as day 1 is a crap shoot.In post 561, Nero Cain wrote:537 isn't confusing in the least. It's the defense paradox.
538 is also pretty normal. It's pretty much how most players read each other and you see this like every game. You could even go as far as say that Gera is trying to dismiss Rathe's reads.
These aren't great points and quite the opposite.
And then a second player looks at the first and goes "hmm...thay random reads list looks pretty good to me, I now think player 1 is town!"
We are now 2 degrees of separation from a pile of crap....and all the while player 1, player 2 (or even both) can be scum and be lying.
Skip to day 2 when we get a bunch of info from night actions and we aren't just running around in the dark.
My point is a simple one, not complex but I will give out naughty points when I see someone do something pointless like that whilst giving themselves a pat on the back-
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VOTE: scorpious
this feels like the exact sort of post someone makes with a green flip in mine.In post 587, MalcolmTucker wrote:
I'm getting town vibes from Scorpious a good bit, I don't think their posts are perfect but for the most part they seem genuine in a way I don't reckon is too mafia at the moment.
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In post 625, Morning Tweet wrote:Why are you voting Scorp then??-
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you know what, it is a contradiction. but once i sorta commit to a way of voting i kinda have to stick to it, otherwise to me that looks suspicious. kinda locked in for the rest of today, sorry.In post 684, Andresvmb wrote:
I’m reading this back, and I can’t make sense of this at all. Isn’t geraintm saying here that MalcolmTucker is spewing Scorpious Town? Even if you are intent on just voting whatever is the largest wagon at different times, you could hold off on putting your vote down somewhere that contradicts directly with a point you’re trying to make.In post 624, geraintm wrote:VOTE: scorpious
this feels like the exact sort of post someone makes with a green flip in mine.In post 587, MalcolmTucker wrote:
I'm getting town vibes from Scorpious a good bit, I don't think their posts are perfect but for the most part they seem genuine in a way I don't reckon is too mafia at the moment.
this and the subsequent post do ping me a little
my comment on Malcolmtucker was more a note to myself to watch out in the future. I should have awarded them a naughty point, better way of tracking it.-
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ah, its just me having a little bit of fun and trying to achieve my aim for Day 1, which is to get to Day 2 as quickly as possible. dont mind me, i promise i'll be better from tomorrow onwardsIn post 777, angela wrote:
it is significantly more suspicious to me that you'd lock into voting in a manner that is not particularly + townIn post 700, geraintm wrote:you know what, it is a contradiction. but once i sorta commit to a way of voting i kinda have to stick to it, otherwise to me that looks suspicious. kinda locked in for the rest of today, sorry.
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oh, i am 100% down for no elimination, but whenever i say that i usually get shouted at and no one likes that so i tend to just think that instead of saying it nowadays.In post 830, angela wrote:
interesting to me that this is your aim when you've also said that you think it would be better if towns did not eliminate day oneIn post 805, geraintm wrote:
ah, its just me having a little bit of fun and trying to achieve my aim for Day 1, which is to get to Day 2 as quickly as possible. dont mind me, i promise i'll be better from tomorrow onwardsIn post 777, angela wrote:
it is significantly more suspicious to me that you'd lock into voting in a manner that is not particularly + townIn post 700, geraintm wrote:you know what, it is a contradiction. but once i sorta commit to a way of voting i kinda have to stick to it, otherwise to me that looks suspicious. kinda locked in for the rest of today, sorry.
while being aware that that is what you are doing
which i assumed to involve using the entire day to figure things out and then using the information gained from nightkill to also inform decisions
(which information gain not worth loss of elimination, odd number of players and such)
and get to day two as quickly as possible has the exact opposite effect of limiting information as much as possible
but idk how alignment relevant this might be
I don't want to spend today trying to figure things out, i just want to skip to day 2 when we can all start playing properly. Dy 1 is just...tiresome. And i spent a month waiting for this game to fire and then have to wait another week until it gets going properly.-
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honestly, don't know. i normally sit there day 2 and look at the wagons that formed and who was on which ones. i normally have some idea that some wagons are obviously on town players, and anyone joining them for crappy reasoning get naughty points. that combined with whatever info players bring to the table day 2 are what i go on.In post 869, MalcolmTucker wrote:
Again on this...why do you deserve a pass on D1 when it's clear someone else will likely be eliminated? If we were all down with your approach, then fine, I'd maybe get the logic, but it's fairly evident most of us don't agree with it and want to eliminate someone, because those votes can give us info even if we get the elimination wrong. I get D1 involves a lot of firing into the dark, but it's not as if D2 automatically provides us with all the answers we need to solve the game.In post 849, geraintm wrote:
oh, i am 100% down for no elimination, but whenever i say that i usually get shouted at and no one likes that so i tend to just think that instead of saying it nowadays.In post 830, angela wrote:
interesting to me that this is your aim when you've also said that you think it would be better if towns did not eliminate day oneIn post 805, geraintm wrote:
ah, its just me having a little bit of fun and trying to achieve my aim for Day 1, which is to get to Day 2 as quickly as possible. dont mind me, i promise i'll be better from tomorrow onwardsIn post 777, angela wrote:
it is significantly more suspicious to me that you'd lock into voting in a manner that is not particularly + townIn post 700, geraintm wrote:you know what, it is a contradiction. but once i sorta commit to a way of voting i kinda have to stick to it, otherwise to me that looks suspicious. kinda locked in for the rest of today, sorry.
while being aware that that is what you are doing
which i assumed to involve using the entire day to figure things out and then using the information gained from nightkill to also inform decisions
(which information gain not worth loss of elimination, odd number of players and such)
and get to day two as quickly as possible has the exact opposite effect of limiting information as much as possible
but idk how alignment relevant this might be
I don't want to spend today trying to figure things out, i just want to skip to day 2 when we can all start playing properly.Dy 1 is just...tiresome. And i spent a month waiting for this game to fire and then have to wait another week until it gets going properly.
But to engage, out of interest, to try a different approach here...what reads would you have on D2 depending on which players are eliminated?
For example, if I'm killed overnight, how would that influence your D2 reads? How about the same with Scorpious, or with Angela? That appears to evidently be how you play the game here, so I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on who you'd suspect depending on what happens overnight.
im not going to waste the time doing that now though-
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i dont trust gut. one, your guy is no better than random, two, you could be scum.In post 881, Save The Dragons wrote:i don't think the evidence is weak
i also play a lot by gut and can't articulate that
my gut says rathe and my gut is usually better than my logical part of my brain anyway so i trust it-
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i have had some hugely weird wins as scum, ones where we no way deserved to emerge victorious.In post 907, Galron wrote:I never like geraintm Day 1 and this game is no different. Lots of talk about how Day 1 sucks and we need to get to Day 2. But he's done this nearly every game I've played with him since he returned. I don't find it scummy because he does that as both alignments. Same thing with the entry post routine, and I don't know whether he's said it yet -- he usually does it at the beginning of the game and I missed it if it's there -- but he's essentially VLA on the weekends.
Those three things are what you get from geraintm Day 1 as either alignment, and it makes his scum game difficult to figure out because people interact with him on the Day 1 topic and sometimes on the entry routine topic, and it just generates posts that distract from learning what he's doing as far as the current game goes. So it's easy for scum him to hide in that, and the more people pay attention to it, the better his scum game gets. My first game with him in December 2019, I thought he was a bit daft. but that's really not the case.
So my recommendation with him is determine whether he's promoting those topics, making them last longer, or if he's paying attention to people's reactions and actually playing the game without discussing those topics. Generally, when I see he's in my game, I do just give him a pass. And you know what I can't remember a scum game that we were in together where his team didn't end up winning so now I'm thinking giving him a pass is a huge mistake and I should be following the method I just laid out every game I have with him and I haven't yet done that this game.
NTS So that's a thing I need to do.
maybe people need to pressure me more day 2 onwards, but day 1....well you are just going to start policy eliminating me then and if that is the case there are others who are just as blank day 1 as me.-
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see, this is the reason why i dont bring up the no elim thing!In post 913, Scorpious wrote:Well, I would feel better about Gera’s schtick if they didn’t keep reminding us about it.-
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i like i can always point elsewhere when people want to eliminate meIn post 1041, Not_Mafia wrote:Who claimed mailman?
i did atleast spend 3 awkward pages of reading on the mailman claim.-
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weird bad townieIn post 1107, KittyTacky wrote:
Yeah, ger reads to me more like a weird townie proposing weird plays than a scum trying to push something that will hurt town.In post 856, angela wrote:i am pretty willing to give geraintm a day one pass here even though it is very frustrating to me as well just don’t really think it makes geraintm super likely mafia-
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just caught up with 10 pages or so from overnight. the game state progressed pretty much zero.
i don't know the vote count, but i was on scorpious and even i don't want to eliminate there so UNVOTE: and just assume once i know who the longest wagon is i'll vote there.
i have to confess, people saying i am hard to read - i think i am incredibly easy to spot as scum. i spend the entire game in panic mode, huge mood swings. i believe town can spot me everytime, or at least should be.-
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why is it weird? i do try and contribute snark Day 1, and i had time this morning to read and reply to a few bits.In post 1132, Scorpious wrote:
this is not even correct..In post 1124, geraintm wrote:he should surely know by now that he won't be allowed to get away with a claim like that ever again? if he does something like that again, he just knows he is going to get eliminated everytime he is forced to claim...
right?
I also find it weird, that you are attempting to contribute. Now..
and what isn't correct? if someone gets into the habit of making wild claims, then surely the MetaTown will know this and just start ignoring them all from you and punish you for past behaviour?-
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no, i usually wait till day 2 and then go through all the Mod's posts and try and track people's votes. just because i don't set any store in votes day 1 doesn't mean others don't. it usually helps me clump some people together into "i don't want to go after them today" or "these people look shifty"In post 1129, Scorpious wrote:
you realize you can do this ,in real time, on D1.. right?In post 1106, geraintm wrote:honestly, don't know. i normally sit there day 2 and look at the wagons that formed and who was on which ones. i normally have some idea that some wagons are obviously on town players, and anyone joining them for crappy reasoning get naughty points. that combined with whatever info players bring to the table day 2 are what i go on.
im not going to waste the time doing that now though
This post almost gives me the impression you're setting the table to not do much in D2 either..
You are either scum or a Town Pr looking to not get nk'd. I can't decide right now.
There havent been many vote counts todays though so will be harder.-
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@malcolm - i like that you give me credit for being experienced (I dont feel that at all, i play one game at a time and regularly have to go to the wiki to look up what some roles are as i've never seen them before) a good enough player to be able to change my play style, but i am really not. i generally suck as town, there is a reason i don't get NKed very often by scum, they are happy to have me around for a catastrophic ending-
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fundamentally, i think no one should be doing any work on Day 1....In post 1139, MalcolmTucker wrote:Fundamentally I just really dislike the idea we should be expected to do all the work so they can finally start playing on D2.-
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no, we should all vote No elimination and skip the wasted 10 days...In post 1144, Scorpious wrote:
So we should just sit here for ten days and Randomly vote people for lolz?In post 1142, geraintm wrote:
fundamentally, i think no one should be doing any work on Day 1....In post 1139, MalcolmTucker wrote:Fundamentally I just really dislike the idea we should be expected to do all the work so they can finally start playing on D2.
but i have met exactly zero other players who want to do this...
i have a funny feeling i am going to get shouted at very, very soon-
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because town will acquire info during the night.In post 1145, MalcolmTucker wrote:Okay but how do we get any info on D2?-
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because town will acquire info during the night.In post 1145, MalcolmTucker wrote:Okay but how do we get any info on D2?-
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Oh, I know it may be a claim coming from scum, but I am not voting there today,In post 1253, KittyTacky wrote:
Just because he claimed doesn't mean he can't be scum. Mailman is a very possible scum role anyways, and not very useful even if town. My vote is parked.In post 1237, geraintm wrote:I want to vote, but I think the biggest wagon is scorpions who I really don't want to vote for (because claim), and Not Mafia who I don't want to vote for because I know they are solvable as the game goes on-
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ive been catching up, and this is the 1st mention of me today in 6 pages.In post 1468, Andresvmb wrote:You know why this is important right? The options for executions yesterday if we’re being honest for a second were {geraintm, Scorpious, Save The Dragons, Not_Mafia}. Not_Mafia was ultimately executed and flipped Town, and there was some visible resistance to executing Save The Dragons. Scorpious is the easiest choice for mis-execution amongst the players that gathered multiple votes yesterday, if they’re actually Town.
I think angela’s conviction that Kitty is Town is also just completely bizarre. Maybe you could say that you think Kitty is Lean Town or something an explain why. But can anyone tell me why there’s so much conviction behind that read? I don’t get that at all. I certainly don’t agree with it.
mailman - something feels off if scum used a block on that. Town has already discussed that mailman isn't a certain town role so why do it?
regarding the above, i do like the line "some visible resistance to executing Save The Dragons" - it certainly felt like that to me. will come back to this when i look at votes.
anyone who is strongly town reading anyone (or strongly scum reading someone) i am assuming has some extra info right now, because Day 1 didn't feel like anyone should come out of it with my town credit.
I am on the side of Angela btw, i don't think Scorpious was roleblocked.
never make guesses about why scum killed who, it will always be wrong or right for the wrong reasonsIn post 1495, Rathe wrote:also the pooky kill seems like a scared kill not strategic
this seems odd. i am currently leaning town on Angela, so you to come in straight up with a vote like that needs some more explanation than you have so far given.-
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So, i am doing my look back at yesterdays votes.
Knowing Not Mafia and Pooky are green, i am trying to look at the wagons, who was on them and anything interesting.
TO me, the intersting bit happens after Vote 1.13
There, Not mafia had 2 votes (one a self vote, the other from Nero cain), Save the dragon had 2 votes (from galron and rathe) and Scrpious had 2 (from Andres and Kittytacky
Then i vote (joining largest wagon and i think ihad previously said i didn't want to vote scorpious due to claim and as a tie break between a wagon with not mafia self voting and one without aself vote, i'll go with the one with 2 genuine votes)
then malcolm tucker votes - so Save the dragon is now on 4, but effectivly 5 due to not mafiaIn post 1257, MalcolmTucker wrote:I'm still unsure on geraint but I think them being unwilling to get on the Scorpious bandwagon given they've been a main candidate so far is quite townie.
I'm happy to move my vote from there if nobody else fancies it, and fine to get on an STD bandwagon because I don't think they've looked townie so far and their suspicions of Rathe feel very manufactured.
VOTE: SaveTheDragons
Busy day ahead so likely won't be around till D2.
Then ANgela votes Not Mafia - in the same post saying they think Scorpious is scum.
because today, i want to understand how a sudden wagon that formed on save the dragon and had got up to 4 (or 5 votes) was derailed onto Not mafia who ends up town.
and Angela's vote now looks...weird
and then 2 posts later Angela then says they are wary of Save the dragon - but they've voted Not Mafia....
Kitty comes in and says NM is fine, shoudl eliminate between STD and scorpious
Next vote is Pooky on Not MAfia. no explanation
has a previous post
where they have STD as higher up the chain than Not Mafia yet when given the choice between STD and not mafia, then went with not mafia...In post 1230, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I am fine with STD - Tweet - NM atp
that is now 4 votes each for STD and not mafia, except one of not mafia is themselves and doesnt count
scorpious votes and avoids both wagons
rathe chips in with "the NM votes are weird"
after the next vote count, STD votes Not mafia
we get this from Galron
not mafia votes for me!
I vote not mafia thinking it is the hammer because i am still on the "vote longest wagon" plan and someone had just said they were at 1 off elimination.
if not mafia had voted Save the dragon there btw, i don't think i move my vote from STD
i then miss the next few votes on STD from Not Mafia and Andres because i've assumed the day is gone and scorpious hammers.
I am suspicious as F about the wagon forming on NM and off STD. the votes from Angela (who had sat there with no votes the entire game), Pooky (who had been voting Kitty the whole game outside opening random votes until the NM vote) & Galron (who switched from STD to NM) look terrible.
Those 3 are where i think my suspicions lie and i don't think i want to vote outside them today.
My previous posts about liking what Angela was saying were written before i looked at the votes.-
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thats fair, i misread your post. i take back that comment about you being wary of Save the dragonIn post 1539, angela wrote:
i said i was wary of the save the dragons wagon - not of save the dragonsIn post 1538, geraintm wrote:So, scrub my previous post about leaning town on Angela, that is DEF not what i think now.
and i already otherwise explained why i thought the way i did regarding not mafia
which just makes me terrible at the game not scum
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i looked back at your posts previous to 1258 and i cant work out your expressing suspicions previous about Not Mafia-
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no, set up analysis is something i cannot help with. i regularly find new roles in games ive never come across, let alone played before.In post 1546, angela wrote:do you know a lot about normal queue games?-
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sorry not up to your standards, but im doing the best i canIn post 1549, Scorpious wrote:I'm glad we waited and let Gera live for that totally groundbreaking addition..-
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I have no idea what people expect from me. I said I'll be better day 2, and I tried.
I came to today with like 10 pages of text and 2 mentions of me, so I have to generate all my own thoughts.
So I did what I always do and look at day 1 wagons and I just wanted to look at why and when the not Mafia wagon formed, and I tried to pick out which votes I thought were bad.
But then new info comes to light so I of course chase that direction, I always said the info players bring to thr game day 2 is what drives the game and this is what I am reacting to.
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this is too vague to accept.In post 1789, Andresvmb wrote:For reasons I don’t intend to discuss, I believe Scorpious is a bad execution today. Let’s please move on to a different player.
if you want to stay vague thats fine, but it does mean i will not change my opinion on scorpious-
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I think flipping scorpious gives Town a whole host of info on people's relationships, and given (at least from my point of view) a red flip , I don't think there would be many spots left for scum to hide. We will soon find themIn post 1901, Rathe wrote:geraintm could be town if i read his posts alone n he feels more town if you read everything back with scorpius n malcolmtucker as mafia
i dont know about andante rly but it doesnt seem like she is the same alignment with malcolm n scorpius n the way they both interacted with her made me think they r mafia i like her posts n she is the main reason i did a rethink n reread
if they r partners i wouldnt know who the third person is but starting with scorpius seems like a good move-
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1st, excellent use of the word naff.In post 1919, MalcolmTucker wrote:I think the "I don't think there will be many places left for scum to hide" feels incredibly fake and naff to me as well.
2nd, to me at least i would find it hard to beleive Angela was town, and i would struggle to see how people would think i was scum if Scorpious flipped scum. Combined with Kitty being green and another death in the night, there would be 9 left, 3 i think should be seen as town leaving 2 scum amoung 6 people - though that 6 might be further narrowed down after the night.
that is my thinking, i am not sure why it comes across as fake?-
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Agree that Save the Dragon has looked suspicious ever since yesterday, but i'd much rather the scorpious wagon and revisit STD at a later stageIn post 1916, KittyTacky wrote:I don't understand the Malcolm wagon, Malcolm isn't scummy at all to me, it's between STD and Scorp today.
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what does miz mean?In post 1909, Galron wrote:I dislike geraintm's posting. That last post is a head scratcher. It seems to be a call to arms and comes across as he is trying to miz scorpious. And I'm not a big fan of scorpious either.
and i am unsure how to put together you disliking me charging at Scorpious and then you also saying you don't like scorpious. the two are not compatible??-
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i don't understand why my posts - where i believe scorpious is scum - is generating so much heat on me when others are saying the exact same thing. all i can think is that people are suggesting Scorpious is town, and i am an opportunistic scum jumping on a wagon generated by Kitty (who is green) and Angela (who is 99% liekly to be different alignment to Scorpious) and yet are going after me and not Angela?In post 1905, Galron wrote:
But isn't that kind of limiting? Excluding every other player except for scorpious and malcom as mafia, if you squint you can see geraintm town? 1) it seems limiting to base reads on two specific players being scum and 2) does that mean if you were to sub, say me for scorpious, geraintm is scum?In post 1901, Rathe wrote:geraintm could be town if i read his posts alone n he feels more town if you read everything back with scorpius n malcolmtucker as mafia
i dont know about andante rly but it doesnt seem like she is the same alignment with malcolm n scorpius n the way they both interacted with her made me think they r mafia i like her posts n she is the main reason i did a rethink n reread
if they r partners i wouldnt know who the third person is but starting with scorpius seems like a good move
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@angela
true, Scorpious could have been roleblocked and mod put in two similar roles both on town's side, but i think the likelihood of that is slim.
if scorpious flips scum i cannot see how scum (you and SCorpious) would have planned the whole kitty FN thing, so i am very happy with my vote on them-
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