Food for thought: G shading Carca poorly really put him on my radar earlier in the dayIn post 1442, MathBlade wrote:Agreed Carca or Dwlee or G are way better elims.
It was bad and it only came after content was essentially demanded from him.
Food for thought: G shading Carca poorly really put him on my radar earlier in the dayIn post 1442, MathBlade wrote:Agreed Carca or Dwlee or G are way better elims.
...Isn't the day over in like 24 hours?
I'm not saying they can't be scum together, though interesting fact that just came to mind:In post 1443, JacksonVirgo wrote:In post 1439, Crescent wrote:It's her very last post. It egged JV towards that Meuh vote.In post 1373, Titus wrote:Fair. Too quiet. Avoided my claim.In post 1371, JacksonVirgo wrote:I think Meuh is mafia.I wouldn't say she nudged me towards it, if scum outright protected their partner after someone said they believed they were scum it would look bad. Which would make sense for how they were kinda passive about "agreeing"In post 1441, Crescent wrote:Oh it's possible, but I feel like refusing to vote Titus based on her claim by voting on the person she nudged you to vote probably isn't the best play.
Where does Ger fit into all of it? It took him like 2 1/2 days just to half assedly attack Carca after a long winded post and say he was "deeply suspicious" of her.In post 1457, MathBlade wrote:I think it depends on a few things. I think Carca’s more likely scum based on prior posts or not necessarily defending Titus but they don’t like the dilemma.In post 1453, JacksonVirgo wrote:Wait no.
VOTE: Meuh
I think that scum woulda discussed it, and I doubt scum would ask to full ass defend a buddy here with this much conviction.
(It could also be scum weakly shading town. Either way it felt bad.)In post 1460, MathBlade wrote:Don’t get me wrong I hate the fact we aren’t elimming Titus here.In post 1458, Crescent wrote:Math is absolutely right by the way. As much as I personally hate letting situations like this go relatively unresolved, it's only day 2 and we should not be killing either of them.
If I was scum I just ram her through. But JV is right it’s better for us not to elim her right now.
This is the way I currently lean. He feels really ineffective for how many times he's said he's going to do something.In post 1474, Meuh wrote:Gerain should be the lim in my humble opinion and I'm unsure why they've been let off the hook
But I actually don't remember him specifically saying Scorp was "town", just that voting him was pointless outside of getting him to full claim..In post 1510, Crescent wrote:Ger did pretty clearly say he wasn't "going anywhere near" a Scorp vote today at some point.
...Isn't that just the PT cop people were talking about earlier?In post 1517, Meuh wrote:https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... ic_AnalystIn post 1513, Crescent wrote:....What's a Traffic Analyst, for the record?
Wait you guys have a safelist for roles?In post 1535, Carcalilly wrote:But scorp shouldn't have known there was a gunsmith, right? If JK is a fakeclaim for a mafia RB then the doctor/GS makes perfect sense to me.
He did, yes... Then I thought about it and I don't believe he ever actually called you town. He just said your train was inevitable, doomed to do nothing but make you claim, and that he wouldn't vote you.In post 1549, Scorpious wrote:In post 1501, Dwlee99 wrote:I also was townreading Titus without the claim and she is most certainly town nowGet at least said he was staying away from me early todayIn post 1506, geraintm wrote:i am pretty sure i said i did not think scorpious was scum earlier todayIn post 1353, MathBlade wrote:
No one other than me at the time of posting.
No one defending Scorp means probably town.
Scum make a ton of noise when I s.
It doesn't, though my first scumteam ever was.. Interesting in that way. On the team were the only not-white player in the game, the only openly gay player in the game, the only openly trans player, and the only woman.
This mentality makes me iffy because I recently saw a town almost totally throw a game on day 4 by convincing itself the guy everyone thought was scum probably wasn't.In post 1553, ItalianoVD wrote:Yeah this too.In post 1350, JacksonVirgo wrote:If most people are for a wagon without a mechanical guilty, it's probably Town.
I mentioned earlier it'd be kinda nuts for multiple scum to be on Scorpious if Scoprious is town.In post 1709, Dwlee99 wrote:Does math really think that all 3 scum are the most wanting Scorpious? Like Me/Titus/Carca just all thought it was a genius idea to pile on to the same wagon?
I asked for a Carca refresher 20 minutes ago and didn't get oneIn post 1725, MathBlade wrote:Then please focus conversation there.In post 1722, Dwlee99 wrote:I am already voting Gera, Math
We need to focus conversations where elims are happening.
This doesn't sound like a real claim?In post 1728, JacksonVirgo wrote:A comedianIn post 1724, geraintm wrote:What was it?In post 1658, JacksonVirgo wrote:You missed my claimIn post 1641, geraintm wrote:Hood -In post 986, Scorpious wrote: I’m an even night JK
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I'm autistic and take almost everything said to me at face value. Sarcasm and humor have a tendency to fly right past me, and if I attempt to be sarcastic, no one else gets my intent.In post 1732, JacksonVirgo wrote:I'm already dead. Stop my heart can't take itIn post 1731, Crescent wrote:...That was supposed to be funny?
Gamma did one thing in particular that pinged me pretty hard yesterday. During the MM buildup, he said MM/Dwlee were probably both scum together, but voted DWlee effectively as a countertrain to MM. If they're both scum together, why split your vote off?In post 1733, MathBlade wrote:I have been well versed in my Carca read and there was a beginning part of the day that was horrible for them when they kept pushing my Gamma read. It’s mainly I don’t think they’re scumhunting/townhunting.In post 1727, Crescent wrote:I asked for a Carca refresher 20 minutes ago and didn't get oneIn post 1725, MathBlade wrote:Then please focus conversation there.In post 1722, Dwlee99 wrote:I am already voting Gera, Math
We need to focus conversations where elims are happening.
The way people seem to regard Titus it seems like something she might encourage a team of hers to do.In post 1739, Gamma Emerald wrote:I’ve seen scum do some wild stuff
I wouldn’t write off scum all piling on a player as impossible
You did... Make it kinda clear you knew you were hammering, true.In post 1740, Gamma Emerald wrote:@Crescent that Dwlee vote was because I was holding out for the NM-style hammer but had to do something with my vote in the meanwhile
NM’s means of doing so is to self-vote start of day 1 and I don’t think I’ve ever seen him change votes mid-day 1 except to hammer
Oh I know what your scan is. It's why I'm leaving Gamma alone. I already said I'm taking the scan at face value.In post 1743, MathBlade wrote:You seem new. Gamma doesn’t have a gun. This means Gamma is more than likely town given Titus claimed Doctor. It’s possible that Titus and Gamma could both be scum or Gamma scum Titus town but with the doctor claim I think Gamma is a hard inno. I would reconsider in elo but not before that.In post 1738, Crescent wrote:Gamma did one thing in particular that pinged me pretty hard yesterday. During the MM buildup, he said MM/Dwlee were probably both scum together, but voted DWlee effectively as a countertrain to MM. If they're both scum together, why split your vote off?In post 1733, MathBlade wrote:I have been well versed in my Carca read and there was a beginning part of the day that was horrible for them when they kept pushing my Gamma read. It’s mainly I don’t think they’re scumhunting/townhunting.In post 1727, Crescent wrote:I asked for a Carca refresher 20 minutes ago and didn't get oneIn post 1725, MathBlade wrote:Then please focus conversation there.In post 1722, Dwlee99 wrote:I am already voting Gera, Math
We need to focus conversations where elims are happening.
I have almost no recollection of Gamma today, come to think of it, but I feel like you/Scorpious being scum together doesn't really make sense unless you're the type who will essentially double suicide gambit, and scum you doing this to protect town Scorpious is... Odd. So I'm just taking the scan at face value.
3 is the standard meta. It town is OP traitors are possible but almost never 4.
The only time I can ever remember seeing traitor in a game of mafia was a game probably around 8 years ago (it's so long ago I can't even find the archive of it) before I even personally started playing. Scum is generally considered underpowered if under 25% of the playerbase unless scum is superpowered and town has little to none.In post 1745, Gamma Emerald wrote:4 typically requires a large quantity of town power rolesIn post 1741, Crescent wrote:The way people seem to regard Titus it seems like something she might encourage a team of hers to do.In post 1739, Gamma Emerald wrote:I’ve seen scum do some wild stuff
I wouldn’t write off scum all piling on a player as impossible
It's probably not as simple as just all 3 being scum though.
Oh speaking of that, the question was slipping my mind, but.. How does setup meta work here? People have generally been acting like it's specifically a 3-person scumteam.
With what I'm used to, 3 in 13 is possible, but 4 is more likely.
I’ve seen it also balanced in a normal as have 2 groupscum and 2 traitors
It's too early to form entire scumteams in my head right now, It just helps me properly read the game later to know.In post 1746, MathBlade wrote:Ah. Here four is extreme. Different culture here.
Do your reads change assuming three scum?
I wasn't in my shell at all day 1 (I was by far the leading poster at the end of the day, even), but MM flipping town damaged the game for me, and I am very easily influenced by outside factors that have nothing to do with the game, aka Monday. I'm kind of just drifting along the game right now because I'm not psychologically capable of really driving the discussion like I was yesterday. I'd be in bed processing and half-hallucinating right now if I could be.In post 1750, MathBlade wrote:Agreed on the distraction. I think 25% is the wrong number but I tend to think setups are townsided. I am glad you’re coming out of your shell more.In post 1747, Crescent wrote:The only time I can ever remember seeing traitor in a game of mafia was a game probably around 8 years ago (it's so long ago I can't even find the archive of it) before I even personally started playing. Scum is generally considered underpowered if under 25% of the playerbase unless scum is superpowered and town has little to none.In post 1745, Gamma Emerald wrote:4 typically requires a large quantity of town power rolesIn post 1741, Crescent wrote:The way people seem to regard Titus it seems like something she might encourage a team of hers to do.In post 1739, Gamma Emerald wrote:I’ve seen scum do some wild stuff
I wouldn’t write off scum all piling on a player as impossible
It's probably not as simple as just all 3 being scum though.
Oh speaking of that, the question was slipping my mind, but.. How does setup meta work here? People have generally been acting like it's specifically a 3-person scumteam.
With what I'm used to, 3 in 13 is possible, but 4 is more likely.
I’ve seen it also balanced in a normal as have 2 groupscum and 2 traitors
Yay different community metas~
Who would you elim today?
My issue with post volume is how often I think of something additional to say like 30 seconds after I hit post and then I turn it into two or even three messages in what should have been one.In post 1753, MathBlade wrote:We tend to be verbose being on the spectrum.
It’s a sign we should tend towards longer posts if anything.
Man I wish there was a VC.
I was masons with someone once. It was interesting and I think it's why I can read him so well compared to like, everyone else... And why he always wants me dead when he's scum. If I ping on him as scum, he's scum. There's a very subtle difference in his cadence, and I think I learned it based on our time being masons in a game that went like 8 days.In post 1755, MathBlade wrote:Gahh I wish you were in the hood. I think we’d gel well together. Welcome to town block ish…gonna shut up now but yeah.In post 1754, Crescent wrote:My issue with post volume is how often I think of something additional to say like 30 seconds after I hit post and then I turn it into two or even three messages in what should have been one.In post 1753, MathBlade wrote:We tend to be verbose being on the spectrum.
It’s a sign we should tend towards longer posts if anything.
Man I wish there was a VC.
...If there was VC I wouldn't be talking much at all though. Too many physical voices in my head and I shut right up.
I'm going to be honest in that I've almost completely ignored metaing the hood at all. If any number of them can be scum, does trying to blindly figure out how many actually matter?In post 1758, Scorpious wrote:Math, how many hood you think are scum?
I'm a Kitten.In post 1761, MathBlade wrote:Well whoever you are welcome. I hope you enjoy playing here.In post 1759, Crescent wrote:Basically though it's rather NAI how open I'm being because I don't really care, I just leave it out on the table naturally because to me setting up my "future" is just as important to how I look in the game itself. If I'm hiding something I'm doing it for a very deliberate reason aka I always have a plan if I lie as town. I sold a vanilla claim as bus driver recently because I knew I was going to get nuked by a re-direction bypassing Strongman if I claimed my role straight up. I "may" have played this a little tighter as scum than I have, but I'm not sure. Either way, this game sets a town baseline for me quite nicely.
Speaking of beneficial lies... I'm effectively the protege of a player who intentionally baited pressure onto himself day 1 of a game as bodyguard to claim vanilla, no actioned for four consecutive nights, then saved the Town RB out of the blue on night 5 and completely ruined the game for scum. That sounds fun~
Ger has had a lot of posts that look busy for the sake of being busy, but his argument when being called on it by me effectively feels like "If you knew me at all you'd know this isn't scummy coming from me" in a way that had a bit of a town inflection I can't really pinpoint.In post 1763, Scorpious wrote:On Ger:
Started d2 with what could be considered a busy work post. I commented that. And there was continued effort. I liked that. They’ve seemed to kinda go back into looking busy mode with the in thread note takeing.
Don’t mods offer you your own space for that?
That’s always my thing with them, not the actual content but the motive behind it.
He seems too busy waffling or contradicting on almost every read he has to actually have conviction on anything.In post 1770, ItalianoVD wrote:Oh wow, I tend to keep my house between 60-65F/15.6C. Anything about 75F/23.9C and I And I absolutely love when it’s and overcast; no sun and cool temps, etc.In post 1769, Crescent wrote:Mmm keep in mind that these kinds of things will effect me regardless of my alignment. My Seasonal Affective is also playing a factor because it finally warmed up the last few days, and when it warms up I go a bit haywire internally until my body adjusts. I have a natural temperature around 97F/36.2C, and tend to naturally function better in the cold.
I’ve noticed that with Titus and dw as well. Like he thinks they’re scum but not really trying to prove that they are, just that they’re voting him so “yeah, scum.”In post 1769, Crescent wrote: But yes, something you said about Scorpious has been on my mind. He's given the vibe of "creating distance" from me more than he's ever given the vibe of ever actually trying to kill me.
Ok that's what I thought.In post 1777, Meuh wrote:The timer updates naturally, whatever time’s listed is accurate, we have over 24 hours left!In post 1774, ItalianoVD wrote:Bruh we might have like 8 hours or so left.In post 1772, MathBlade wrote:Quoting prior VC for timer c’mon y’all let’s get an elim!In post 1565, DkKoba wrote:
Like I said, if this is how he normally plays as town, it's no wonder to me it's been stated several times this game that he's a magnet for votes.In post 1778, ItalianoVD wrote:Ironically that might be a towntell.In post 1773, Crescent wrote:He seems too busy waffling or contradicting on almost every read he has to actually have conviction on anything.
Isn't that like 24 hours off?In post 1789, MathBlade wrote:The deadline.In post 1788, Crescent wrote:KITTENS YAY
I have been bribed by kittens before yes. Kittens always and forever.
But I counter with a question:
Is there any pressing need to be putting anyone -1 at the moment?
I am concerned if we don’t e-1 now then we might not get an elim.