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i honestly have nooOOoo ideeEEEeaa
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zachary what has gotten into u.-
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we have like 5 latent policy lynches. where is bins
i'm excited to Get Endgamed and Lose who's with me-
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keychain u r scum, hello!-
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and pretty much everyone else i think ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haIn post 71, Katyusha wrote:im pretty sure it's just me-
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i c that you were in fact all the way temptedIn post 76, cytheflyguy wrote:
Hmm, tempting.In post 73, Katyusha wrote:cy be a dear and vote firaja with me?
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o yea sorry for misreading u last game havo-
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weeEEew i'm reading the game thread at all-
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can kind of see havo as feeling himself too much
keychain has a lot of padding
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zachary isn't like hard town yet
katy also sort of isn't ultrahard town but she towntells later-
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uc voyager are u excited to Hunt Some sCum!-
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guys look at me i'm a hyperposter hahahahahahahaha-
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In post 199, Transcend wrote:doggoread gobork-
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vote was, like, weird-
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why would he be offendedIn post 205, cytheflyguy wrote:In post 188, Transcend wrote:
I hate this postIn post 13, cytheflyguy wrote:Wow it's been almost a year and a half since my last game here. How's everyone doin'?
VOTE: transcend
If we're going by this logic, I think this would be a good place to start.
Transcend, can I get a list of previous games so I can verify this myself?
No offense, but that's like...really bad logic. If you are the only person who feels this way, maybe you should expand?In post 190, Transcend wrote:Last two lines are artificial-
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ya i get thisIn post 285, Transcend wrote:Wave is my strongest tr lol-
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keech is there anything u would have transcend do differently-
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if u don't get it and other people do that's pretty much ideal!!!-
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keech the leech
lmaooooooIn post 298, UC Voyager wrote:transcend, have you not been lynched enough times to not play like this?-
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she can like kind of be town-
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youcie is maybe lynchbait but also maybe like super transparent??-
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like i have a strong feeling that if town there's some point where he whips out the big guns and we're all like oh
he has mini-done that already sorta-
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it's bullshit but i got the impression from shut up and vote 2-
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whatchu gon do bout it
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VOTE: cy the dry pie-
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u gonna fite me?? tryna call me out???In post 318, UC Voyager wrote:
idk. your post made no sinceIn post 316, schadd_ wrote:whatchu gon do bout it
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right now i think townhunting = strughunting ufeelme?-
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read this as asslighterIn post 342, Katyusha wrote:allnighter-
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i have a HEADACKE-
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haha do u think transcend is scum or townIn post 400, cytheflyguy wrote:Spoiler:
This post in particular bothered me for a while and it didn't hit me earlier today as to why. Transcend's entire game has been about making claims and then never backing it up. People don't really question it either. Looking at this list, his hardest gut town was someone who, as of this post, has posted 5 times, and as of that post, posted once. One time and that's his "gut town", and because of this endorcement, and next to no one questioning Transcend on his reads, wave has easily claimed a role that no one can varrify, and no one (as far as I know) scum reads him. He says things as if they are fact, but in reality, they are gut guess that he cannot defend but treats as facts, which is why when I asked him, he refused to clarify anything. . Like...isn't that questionable logic? Like even more questionable than my original blunder. You can't assume someone is town for lack of scummy post. You have to townread them for things that look like town motivation.
This game is so damn weird and I don't like it...
Both Zack's and Transcend's games have been weird compared to everyone else's (Scadd too, actually). Zack is on the defense and Transcend is on the offensive but both seem to be built on little to no foundation.
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what is causing the wavering? he is scumreading you and has been statically doing so for kind of a whileIn post 418, Jodaxq wrote:
I still think Transcend is town but it's wavering.In post 410, wavemode wrote:shadd/UCV/transcend? MAybe keychain or zach-
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he even shot you chrissakes!-
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on theme tbhIn post 431, Transcend wrote:Itt Zach is talking to a corpse-
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having a wavering townread on you is just weird
like you have been rather consistent in posting and in reads, don't see how her read of you would be changing-
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i mean i guess she could be reevaluating lmao. but you usually don't see yourselfaboutto reevaluate i think-
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this game is everything i wanted and more-
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do u have a read of herIn post 464, Katyusha wrote:joda wagon is still garbage-
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townlean from whence!-
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dr if i said but i'm ok with keech town-
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will attend to this later! nsg asked for townreads and explanations and i can give one of those transcend keychain wavemode maybe dunnstral espeonage? did espeonage replace fajita-
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ooh wait no. maybe nsg then-
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In post 530, Havo wrote:why do I get the feeling that’s Trans is intentionally being on the other side of Zach?In post 531, Havo wrote:
How about you contribute to the game?In post 511, Everyone Else wrote:how about no
You signed up to play....so play.
This post makes it obvious you are lurking.
You know, tell us who you think is most likely scum and why?
Who’s most likely town and why?
And who do you think would be the best slot to Lynch today?
You know, play the game.In post 539, Transcend wrote:no meIn post 546, Havo wrote:How can Schadd post so much (49) and say so little?In post 549, Jodaxq wrote:
I might actually believe this if you hadn't been posting quite often in another game at the same time that you've made some of these posts.In post 547, Everyone Else wrote:
will try to work on that as soon as possible when im sober and when i have free time.In post 531, Havo wrote:
How about you contribute to the game?In post 511, Everyone Else wrote:how about no
You signed up to play....so play.
This post makes it obvious you are lurking.
You know, tell us who you think is most likely scum and why?
Who’s most likely town and why?
And who do you think would be the best slot to Lynch today?
You know, play the game.In post 550, Jodaxq wrote:In post 530, Havo wrote:why do I get the feeling that’s Trans is intentionally being on the other side of Zach?
These are both very good observationsIn post 546, Havo wrote:How can Schadd post so much (49) and say so little?In post 558, northsidegal wrote:oh, i misinterpreted this the first time i read it - are you asking if i replaced in thinking that my slot was town or scum? i honestly don't follow games that i'm just reading as close as games that i'm playing in, so the slot was null for me. that didn't factor into anything, though - i was on the replacement queue and had no idea who i was replacing.
In post 559, northsidegal wrote:okay, so here are my thoughts having followed along with the thread and done a quick reread.
can someone explain the wagon on the ucv slot to me? i get that he really hasn't done much this game except for a weak push on jodaxq, but i'm not sure that that's especially alignment-indicative enough to warrant a lynch. lynches for "null" behavior like that have always struck me as lazy in the same way as lurker lynches. with that in mind i'm not necessarily saying i'm against it today, just saying that hopefully screenplay can clarify the read there on that slot.
i'm getting a scumlean from jodax, but it's something i'm constantly doubting myself on. the intial motivation for ucv makes total sense to me - ucv wasn't really contributing anything but was clearly in the thread, so that warrants suspicion. at this point, though, i wonder about the motivation behind singling out ucv specifically over other posters who weren't really contributing much or were just lurking it out. the later continuation of the read and the justifications are what leads to the scumread - specifically, i take issue with this:
jodax, what makes you read ucv's posts specifically as intentionally fake contributions as opposed to just intentional non-contributions? you're saying that he's attempting to put forward the image of contributing but to me it seems like he never attempted to put forward that pretense.In post 406, Jodaxq wrote:3. It's not about low contributing, it's about fake contributing. In that same newbie game I hard cased sheepsaysmeep (who was scum) very early on in the game for similar reasons as I'm casing you now. He posted a lot of fake contibution (he always wanted pagetops and asked for reads instead of provided) and I feel like you're doing the same with your asking about meme posting or trying to keep people from insulting one another.
another thing that grabs my attention is the explanation of ucv's actions in 489. it just doesn't make sense to me: ucv's actions can hardly be considered a serious push and the explanation doesn't explain anything outside of the one post where ucv says he scumreads jodax.
finally, this post just exudes someone twisting facts to fit their beliefs and constructing narratives. this is a telltale sign of either a confbiased townie or scum who deliberately has to contrive pushes on people given that they already know everyone's alignment. i'm getting the feeling that it's the latter of the two.In post 492, Jodaxq wrote:
I love how this post precedes your boldest read of the game. So I'm guessing you made this post so if I turn up vanilla civ you can just say you weren't taking it seriously, right? Making sure you cover all your bases is a typical scum move.In post 490, UC Voyager wrote:i wonder how easy this game would be if i took it seriously. lol
i am 100% positive scum want to lynch bait me.
splitting the rest up to avoid a wall for transcend's sake.In post 561, northsidegal wrote:the feeling i get from reading schadd's iso is that he seems to take for granted that some people are town. whereas he's commented on his townread on keychain given that the topic of keychain being scum was brought up, it seems to me like without any discussion or at least visible reasoning he's accepted transcend, zach and katayusha as being town. this could just as easily come from familiarity with the players as it could from already knowing everyone's alignment and only commenting on cases that other people bring up (to give the appearance of activity or of deliberation), so i'm not making this as some huge alignment indicative point.
schadd, could say who you townread and explain why?In post 573, Transcend wrote:define: scum!katyIn post 613, Srceenplay wrote:Scared of my FOSIn post 627, Zachstralkita wrote:Screenplay our reads are sort of similar ish
Schadd probably won't happen today and is not the besr cnadidate
nsg, lolIn post 639, wavemode wrote:K I actually have no idea how to read this fucking game
Which is unfortunate considering I'm currently invincible
Still gut feeling that 2 of shadd/Transcend/Keychain are scum. Dunnstral/EE could be scum as well. tinfoil hat theory that Zach is scum
None of these people are wagons so I will start one! VOTE: Transcend
bettr not be fucking wagoned rnIn post 644, Srceenplay wrote:Katy is a knight. Not town. That’s the only thing giving pause about cy/espe but not big enough pause.-
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i was reading and realized halfway through i might be being wagoned and so i said that i bettr not be and it dumped all my multiquotes-
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man i'm like on record somewhere about things that don't need to be questionsIn post 530, Havo wrote:why do I get the feeling that’s Trans is intentionally being on the other side of Zach?
it would be back from when i thought any weird wording meant scum but
seemed a bit genuineIn post 531, Havo wrote:
How about you contribute to the game?In post 511, Everyone Else wrote:how about no
You signed up to play....so play.
This post makes it obvious you are lurking.
You know, tell us who you think is most likely scum and why?
Who’s most likely town and why?
And who do you think would be the best slot to Lynch today?
You know, play the game.
do u remember what this meantIn post 539, Transcend wrote:no me
what more should i be saying etc.In post 546, Havo wrote:How can Schadd post so much (49) and say so little?
eh. good detective work that isn't like under spotlights. i started not scumreading her at this pointIn post 549, Jodaxq wrote:
I might actually believe this if you hadn't been posting quite often in another game at the same time that you've made some of these posts.In post 547, Everyone Else wrote:
will try to work on that as soon as possible when im sober and when i have free time.In post 531, Havo wrote:
How about you contribute to the game?In post 511, Everyone Else wrote:how about no
You signed up to play....so play.
This post makes it obvious you are lurking.
You know, tell us who you think is most likely scum and why?
Who’s most likely town and why?
And who do you think would be the best slot to Lynch today?
You know, play the game.
i think there was some angery reason i multiquoted this but i forgetIn post 550, Jodaxq wrote:In post 530, Havo wrote:why do I get the feeling that’s Trans is intentionally being on the other side of Zach?
These are both very good observationsIn post 546, Havo wrote:How can Schadd post so much (49) and say so little?
this is goofy, a bit overexplained/details seem odd (read games without having any reads?). i guess you could just say town though? like you don't go through the motions of making up how you read the slot you replaced without making some sort of argument from it if scumIn post 558, northsidegal wrote:oh, i misinterpreted this the first time i read it - are you asking if i replaced in thinking that my slot was town or scum? i honestly don't follow games that i'm just reading as close as games that i'm playing in, so the slot was null for me. that didn't factor into anything, though - i was on the replacement queue and had no idea who i was replacing.
there was also some weird stuff from this, she feels too eager to play up the thought processes she has. i think that's what lamist is. "something i'm constantly doubting myself on" is odd having been in the game for like 9hr and seemingly not having spent all 9 of them reevaluating. and note that she said she didn't have reads replacing in (i guess, didn't have strong reads replacing in. like 558 might not be categorical)In post 559, northsidegal wrote:okay, so here are my thoughts having followed along with the thread and done a quick reread.
this feels like it's starting from the fact that i'm townIn post 561, northsidegal wrote:the feeling i get from reading schadd's iso is that he seems to take for granted that some people are town. whereas he's commented on his townread on keychain given that the topic of keychain being scum was brought up, it seems to me like without any discussion or at least visible reasoning he's accepted transcend, zach and katayusha as being town. this could just as easily come from familiarity with the players as it could from already knowing everyone's alignment and only commenting on cases that other people bring up (to give the appearance of activity or of deliberation), so i'm not making this as some huge alignment indicative point.
i think i multiquoted this as a "transc is town"In post 573, Transcend wrote:define: scum!katy
i was thinking about it for a while because when nsg asked for townreads i considered explaining them uncaught up from memory if i could get all of them in like a few sentences (i was on my phone! in my grandma's living room! and i was like oh shit the prod timer!) but i couldn't think of any good way to do the transcend one because it's like goofy and incoherent. but this is an example of him being interested in something in a way that i likedhow confident
well i was surety annoyedIn post 613, Srceenplay wrote:Scared of my FOS
at this point reading i was all hopped up on the idea, like, this dude is like 40 something and sees all the children on mafiascum that get away with just making jabs like that at each other! and so that is how he approaches playing scum! but he is also like kinda consistent in attitude with the micro we played uh a year ago.
anyway i helped your son with his math homework one time and you're not fucking welcome
zach and srceen are probably not both scum?In post 627, Zachstralkita wrote:Screenplay our reads are sort of similar ish
Schadd probably won't happen today and is not the besr cnadidate
nsg, lol
did u have like a proper theory or is this just a figure of speechIn post 639, wavemode wrote:tinfoil hat theory that Zach is scum
utterly don't remember why i quoted this. it seems maybe salient. i think i thought it was town and i think i still do like 20 minutes later?In post 644, Srceenplay wrote:Katy is a knight. Not town. That’s the only thing giving pause about cy/espe but not big enough pause.
happy thanksgiving to you too!In post 651, Srceenplay wrote:Is this believable to people? ^ ^ last two
barf but okIn post 662, Srceenplay wrote:I’m not confident enough to defend a town read this early. That town read should be doing it themself. Help me solidify my town read.
I’m sure scum are confident this early on who is town or not.
i'm gonna do a readlist but it's not because of uIn post 667, Katyusha wrote:schadd can i get like a readlist from you because your trajectory feels all over the place to me from a quick iso
VOTE: schadd
why is trajectory all over the place notable
why vote
u probably doIn post 674, Zachstralkita wrote:I don't have a tell ;-;
omg!In post 695, Katyusha wrote:hey keychain you might not have to write a case at all :/
still trans why vote for ee over schadd?
i guess i sorta don't know what she expects to get out of this if scum. like >asking transcend to do a thing
yw!In post 701, northsidegal wrote:
the explanations are the more important part of that equation so i'd still appreciate those, but this is still useful.In post 649, schadd_ wrote:will attend to this later! nsg asked for townreads and explanations and i can give one of those transcend keychain wavemode maybe dunnstral espeonage? did espeonage replace fajita
i think i quoted this because i thought it was adorableIn post 708, Everyone Else wrote:im getting voted on?
didn't like this considering 689. if you told me about this like 6 months ago i would've been like esp and ee are bothscum!!! but especially from later on it seems like that's not the caseIn post 725, Espeonage wrote:Please omg please. Do the fuck something. Cite something. There's even a case on the slot and you go with gut scum. Make a stand.
This feels wifom town so idk, but if you are town put in some effort. This is a real hard game to get anything out of.what!
i forgive youIn post 742, Espeonage wrote:
I think it might have been this.In post 55, schadd_ wrote:we have like 5 latent policy lynches. where is bins
i'm excited to Get Endgamed and Lose who's with me
Sorry
fuuuukIn post 752, northsidegal wrote:
yes, normal games can have at most one serial killer.In post 748, Espeonage wrote:Can this have SKs?
i saw that and was like "but isn't this 10:3?" but no that's just like every other normal game worth beans
sk hunting is supposed to come from scum i think.
didn't you likeIn post 755, Everyone Else wrote:
usually when i see someone rant about someone and include "both alignments" they're usually scum.In post 721, Transcend wrote:Christ
Play the fucking game you sign up for
It is absolutely miserable for both alignments to have to deal with extreme amounts of replace outs.
Jeez
replace out
see earlier! i was sitting in a family area operating a cellphone with internet. my intent was not to say i chose not to explain townreads but rather didn't really think i would have time to do it effectively at all before moving on to another family activity like eating birthday cake because we also celebrate some birthdays on thanksgivingIn post 759, Jodaxq wrote:
This post is awful. You say you can only give one of town reads or explanations and you did so what will you attend to later?In post 649, schadd_ wrote:will attend to this later! nsg asked for townreads and explanations and i can give one of those transcend keychain wavemode maybe dunnstral espeonage? did espeonage replace fajita
the use of "awful" made me like "aw man" also. saying "this post is bad" and "i didn't like this" to mean "looks like scum" is something i do as well but it makes me feel weird to read it. like i'm sorry u didn't enjoy my post
me too kidIn post 773, Espeonage wrote:ends in Cum.
this was another "transc is town" i think.In post 788, Transcend wrote:wait holy SHIT he replaced cy
okay i'm dumb and stupid
and really stupid and dumb and fuck me what the fuck am i doing
this makes me very think town.In post 791, wavemode wrote:
Nopeor do you actually have a reason to eliminate the rest of us from your scum pool?
I'm not going to get much done this game without some flips and VCA. Most of this game has been fluff
i went like "whoa!" out loud because my roommate isn't here. because like i wanted both of them to be scum! : (In post 802, Katyusha wrote:VOTE: Espeo
yeah i'm calling bullshit on everything he's done on this slot
s@meIn post 828, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Skimmed. This is a dumpster fire and I’m not allowed to complain. I did it to myself
do u expect to like things about a given person's posting usually?In post 869, Jodaxq wrote:I really don't find very much that I like about LUV's posting at all.
do u know who her main isIn post 888, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Why is Schadd scum?
Katy, your reasoning for voting is Schadd is shit. If you can’t follow his thought process and feel he’s been all over the place, attempt to understand where’s he’s coming and don’t just lazily park. Just voting him without any follow through isn’t going to suddenly make him provide content you not only deem satisfactory, but clear.
ay!In post 891, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
North, could you explain how you ever vote for Schadd after this post. It sounds like you genuinely believe he’s clueless town.In post 561, northsidegal wrote:the feeling i get from reading schadd's iso is that he seems to take for granted that some people are town. whereas he's commented on his townread on keychain given that the topic of keychain being scum was brought up, it seems to me like without any discussion or at least visible reasoning he's accepted transcend, zach and katayusha as being town. this could just as easily come from familiarity with the players as it could from already knowing everyone's alignment and only commenting on cases that other people bring up (to give the appearance of activity or of deliberation), so i'm not making this as some huge alignment indicative point.
schadd, could say who you townread and explain why?
this feels like a bit better prodding/follow through than boonskiies garbage fire game. idk tho that game made me think the only thing i oughtta trust with susie vert is meta bullshit because there was an item of meta bullshit that made me feel like "no! he can't be town!" and also i didn't pay attention to his prodding/follow through i think so who fucking even knows at allIn post 904, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Clueless town can mean those things but also can mean town who often blindly trust the information that is being presented to them. I thought that is what you were getting at, North.
So because Schadd has not explained his town reads, you think they’re not real. I don’t understand how you can reach that conclusion if he’s not offered an explanation for those reads yet. Also, how does fabricating town reads without offering any explanation for them helps him achieve a scum win-con? All that does is bring an unnecessary amount of attention to himself and doesn’t help him control the game state at all. The opposite of what you believe he is doing, which is buddying to avoid suspicion.
I think your problem with Schadd is that he’s not showing any paranoia. Meaning, there is no fear or suspicion displayed in regards to the players he feels are town. There’s no doubt and that worries you. If so, that’s a fair reason to scum read someone but I find a lack of paranoia is a personality trait.they hated jesus because He told them the truth
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i think town:transcend, keech, wavemode
more town than the i don't fucking even know pool:srceenplay, dunnstral, jodaxq (???) (but i think so) (?)
i don't fucking honestly even know:uzi, havo
like marginally more scum than the i don't fucking honestly have any fucking honestly idea pool and she gets her own tier because it feels like a read that 2016 me is very confident in and wrong:north side gal
there's also like zachary and there's like so much bullshit i'm thinking up about how i would think he would go and i think it's like reasonable that he thinks he has some way to read me that works but he's also like weird and motivated by different things than i would think and seems like he could be agenda/lynch-driven but also like the only (completed) game that i've played with him was trash garbage bullshit and i don't have any idea. like remember last time how i was like "lmao i'm judging zachary from speakeasy" well I'M SOMEWHO NOT FUCKING ABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE THIS GAME IS LIKE DIFFERENT AND LESS SMOOTH AND STRAIGHTFORWARD THAN KIDNEY WHICH IS INTERESTING CONSIDERING KIDNEY WAS TRASH GARBAGE BULLSHITzachary
like rather more scum than the i don't fucking honestly have any fucking clue pool but honestly this game feels like a game where my reads are trash garbage so like whatever honestly fucking and it feels weird to put katy lower than zachary?????? but i think i think that:espeonage, katy-
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i think if u look hard enough there are things that count as explaining reads up there.
keech and katy and dunnstral i think i didn't talk conclusively about. keech is informed by something i can't talk about. katy it's weird and i wanna talk 2 her. dunnstral idk my dude. he is able to dump some stuff into the thread if he's scum and i don't think he would decline to do that if he rolled scum here, maybe unless he's worried that people here would be good @ reading him
VOTE: espeonage but will also just vote with transcend on whoever-
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good night! also i change my mind srceen u r in fact welcome for me helping your son at math homework it was fun he's fun to help with math homework
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bonus analogy because i was unable to sleep because of thinking about mafia: this game is like the part of a sitcom clip show episode where they're like "and these were all the bad things"