I will not be gentle!In post 5, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:so please be gentle with me
VOTE: TLDNE
I will not be gentle!In post 5, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:so please be gentle with me
And you shall receive it!
How do you know their vote is RVS? mine isn'tIn post 28, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:I thought you weren't gonna RVS?
a 5 I guessIn post 34, nomnomnom wrote:Karnage on a scale of 1 to 10 how scared are you of my scumgame?
I don't like the 2 naked votes then a "pagetop"In post 37, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:I’d like to hear your thoughts on nom too.
uhh... yeahIn post 47, acryon wrote:Literally just completed page 1 and you had an issue with someone's involvement in the game already?
Nope. I'm terrible with meta so I generally disregard itIn post 50, acryon wrote:Since it sounds like you have experience with her, do those early posts ping you for meta reasons?
idk but something...In post 56, skitter30 wrote:ok, given that the pagetop occured on like ... page 2, what are you expecting her to be doing here at this point?
actually i want to expand on this a bit because its not so much the pagetop but instead the fact it followed the 2 naked votes. I just don't like that nom is actively not participating if that makes senseIn post 58, Karnage wrote:idk but something...In post 56, skitter30 wrote:ok, given that the pagetop occured on like ... page 2, what are you expecting her to be doing here at this point?
they were clearly paying enough attention to the game to know they could grab the pagetop so why not post something relevant to that first page?
this goes to the point I'm trying to make.In post 67, skitter30 wrote:wrt nom i wanna know why she changed her vote to me
Ok. I think you get what I mean overall though so I'm not going to beat a dead horseIn post 69, skitter30 wrote:i'm not sure it does without knowing why she did it
Not gonna lie this is something I hadn't thought of until this post but it makes a ton of senseIn post 75, Auro wrote:Something_Smart, have you not considered that there is a mechanical reason to want to be on the wagon as town?
To take up a slot that scum could have taken; thus forcing them to stay off of it?
I'm flattered but I don't think I'm comfortable with any townbloc quite yet.In post 186, Auro wrote:Have you not noticed me forming a townbloc already, consisting of you, Karnage and Nomnomnom?
I haven't done much since RVS so you are spot on thereIn post 250, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:Hey @Karnage, I'd like to hear where you're at in this game as well. It seems like you haven't said much since defending acryon and that's honestly all I can find in your ISO since RVS. Do you have any reads? What are you thoughts on the Allomancer wagon?
- Smarter
thats where I'm leaning, yeahIn post 300, acryon wrote:Seems you think it's the latter?
24 hours ago in 173 you said "Auro’s thought process feels town."In post 302, acryon wrote:If Allo is in fact L-1, I think someone should hop off just to be safe.
Town - BBmolla
Lean-town - The Limit Does Not Exist, Karnage, nomnomnom, SausasaurusRex
Null - Eve (moved down), GuiltyLion (moved up)
Lean-scum - Allomancer, skitter30
Scum - Auro
Some additional thoughts:
skitter30 - I am really back and forth on this slot. I didn't like what I saw as playing dumb, and the rebuttal to that was so-so. I wasn't sure on the Allo post I mentioned before and Karnage confirmed I'm not alone there, but it also feels unfair to push too hard on that right now when I felt basically the same way (although I didn't verbalize it).
Auro - I started to put Auro into lean-town, and then realized I had no idea why, and I think a lot of others are doing the same. I started to dig into his posts again and realized he has basically done and said nothing for a long time (the last 14 posts at least, and many before that were fluff). He basically hasn't gotten involved in anything and seems far too happy to stay on the sidelines.
VOTE: Auro
meh re-reading your posts I guess you address this nvmdIn post 305, Karnage wrote:24 hours ago in 173 you said "Auro’s thought process feels town."
How did you get from there to top scum read?
funny (at least i think it is, I haven't done any math above algebra in 20 years so theres a chance I'm completely wrong and don't actually get it)
Would you be willing to stay OFF the wagon if possible?In post 317, Auro wrote:I'm completely serious about the townbloc: I will try my best to make sure everyone in my townbloc townread each other, form a consensus scumread, and vote there.
+1In post 325, Auro wrote:They'll look -slightly- better, but that's only if they don't fight the townbloc, and sure -.I invite scum to take the 2/5 risk of doing that then
I'm confused?In post 361, Eve wrote:VOTE: BBMolla
having potential scum be checked should be a lot more useful to you than yourself being cleared
In post 362, Karnage wrote:I'm confused?In post 361, Eve wrote:VOTE: BBMolla
having potential scum be checked should be a lot more useful to you than yourself being cleared
your voting BB but critizing auro? or am i interpreting this wrong?
I think you are confused tooIn post 376, Eve wrote:Karnage saw what he did there too
maybe but I need to go back and look at skitter again firstIn post 454, Auro wrote:Eve!
I know how awesome skitter is but I don't think this is a sound policy and it cheapens your whole plan about people being off wagon since according to this traffic analyst should be on skitter (which means they wouldnt be on you)In post 456, Auro wrote:Skitter should never be a D1 lynch especially with a cop in the game.
Ok so if its at least semi-random, why does a town cop preclude a skitter lynch?In post 458, Auro wrote:What? No, I think the Traffic Analyst should literally roll a die to decide who to cop.
In post 453, Karnage wrote:looked back through allo's ISO and while it doesn't scream town it doesn't scream scum either. There's a better lynch out there I think
I'm not THAT far behindIn post 805, Auro wrote:yeah, town lynched you for the lulz. Were you town or scum?
In post 825, GuiltyLion wrote:Maybe Karnage would be a better lynch.
But that's not. The last "null" read was me saying I'd lynch allo over eve, not a change in my readThe progression of null->town->null of his Allo read feels disingenuous
This vote does not jive with your ISO to this point
But does scum really say this? besides I've had this thought as town a lot of timesIn post 885, nomnomnom wrote:honestly I'm kinda skipping everything at this point and I just want a flip all this stuff is meaningless to me. Just make someone flip I'm sick of this.
It COULD be theater but I'm just saying I've been there as town so it should probably be NAI.In post 896, acryon wrote:It could be theater, and based on nom's experience level, I wouldn't put it past her. Maybe she actually did lose track of the game as either alignment, but if you're town you make an effort; what you don't do is blame other people for making the game hard to read. But if you're scum it's a lot easier to just do that, not take responsibility for falling behind, and avoid having to put together a story.
I'm not talking about the falling behind, i'm talking about just wishing we would just flip somebody already.In post 898, acryon wrote:But to be fair, I think there's a difference between what you two are doing. You have taken responsibility for falling behind; she is blaming others. You are opening yourself up to criticism and scrutiny; she is passing the buck.
I read it as being a jokeIn post 901, skitter30 wrote:i'm kinda most skeptical of where she accused me of slipping because i really don't think there's any universe where she actually believes that
fair enough, I don't remember if I have any experience with town!nomIn post 907, skitter30 wrote:i dont' think town!nom plays this way either tho
I was positing on if i had to lynch either allo or eve who would I lynch.In post 933, GuiltyLion wrote:but if Allo was likely town per your 575 then why would you lynch Allo at all?!
sarcasm can be a joke.In post 935, GuiltyLion wrote:this is possibly worse still though, how could you see it as a joke? Like best case "totally checked out and disengaged town taking a potshot" maybe, but there's no 'joke' there?In post 902, Karnage wrote:I read it as being a jokeIn post 901, skitter30 wrote:i'm kinda most skeptical of where she accused me of slipping because i really don't think there's any universe where she actually believes that
I'm trying not to confbias myself in my Karnage/nom tunnel but
a) all these Karnage defenses of nom and
b) nom reverting from the really thoughtful/observant player of earlier this game
just seem to fit it so well from my POV? why are we entertaining the idea of lynching Allo/Eve at this point still? I'm fine with Allo in the copbloc, I don't feel Skit really needs to be in there anymore.
I think my dream rn is a Karnage lynch with nom/Allo/Molla/Saus off wagon, tho most importantly nom/Allo, happy to defer the Molla/Saus/other slots to whoever other people want to put there.
So much about how I'm scum but for some reason you aren't voting me? why is that?In post 992, Allomancer wrote:nom vs skitter feels like SvT here but I'm not sure which is which.
I'm not a fan of the pronoun gameIn post 1012, Auro wrote:You do realize he's just stating his preference, but implies he'll go with consensus, right?
sure but I don't see that it matters. If I'm scum, why settle with whatever the consensus is?In post 1014, Auro wrote:You do realize GuiltyLion is just stating his preference, implying GuiltyLion would just go with consensus, right?*
I get that in principle and I agree except that we aren't pressed up against the deadline so why not push your read?In post 1016, acryon wrote:Because unless he knows for a fact, sometimes the right play as town is to push that gut-feeling until later. It's not always in the best interest of town for everyone to just push their individual gut read. You have to trust the others you think are town as well.
except when you aren't voting at allIn post 1021, Auro wrote:He is pushing you, no? I don't at all think pushes require votes to carry any weight.
I guess I'm just operating on a completely different wavelength.In post 1023, Auro wrote:I wouldn't lock it in place that we're deciding on a lynch and wagon right now, actually.
I mean, what is a vote anyway but an expression of desire to lynch? Instead, directly expressing that desire achieves the same function, no?Karnage wrote:except when you aren't voting at allIn post 1021, Auro wrote:He is pushing you, no? I don't at all think pushes require votes to carry any weight.
aahhh, I missed that I guessIn post 1025, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:GL said he would be voting you except he was respecting the townbloc/copbloc stuff, which I think was fair enough reason not to vote you at the timeIn post 855, GuiltyLion wrote:also I am voting Karnage in spirit but I imagine I still haven't earned wagon privileges yet
- Smarter
Gonna tryIn post 1319, Auro wrote:Karnage, I hope that you'll be able to devote more time towards the game now?