MT 2219: The Battle of Calculasia - Endgame

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FIRST

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Im not a math person.

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That seems like not a good thing to say before someone claims it but ok

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VOTE: Titus

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T3 how do you value your reads

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I’m debating being your personal sheep or not

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Interesting Wheme, why?

Game is going slow so I thought a omgus 1v1 would be interesting

You voted somewhere else though

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VOTE: Flea the Magician

I thikn I found scum

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There's really only two explanations for the first 3 posters thing. Either it's a coincidence, or cherry picked data.

Or it’s just a meme and a wagon based on it is kind of dumb.

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VOTE: Flea

I'm not convinced about Flea/Xlos but I want to see where the wagons go

Flea votes are good

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DON'T LIMB FLEA LIFE STUFF IS NAI THIS WAGON IS SCUM MOTIVATED

T3 your town but this is a bad post

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ALL ABOARD THE FLEA TRAIN

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I don’t like trying to find partner pre flip

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I don’t think I want to vote slimer right now MC.

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Or flea is scum

Have you thought of that one

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VOTE: nomnomnom

My turn to sheep

Edit: Vote changed to be picked up by VCer.
~Ircher

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Uhm is it bad that I believe nom claim

Let’s see

DGB t3 toog town.

That’s all I got for now

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VOTE: Xios

Nope

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Can people explain why they townread xios

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I think claiming flavor is really dumb

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Good job yesterday .

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Flavors obviously have some meaning.

Why?

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I'll personally see to it that both I and DGB are dead tomorrow.

???

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Im so lost with this game. I want xios still. I feel like I always agree with TItus but I keep thinking Titus is scum so idk theyre probably town.

Jake is a good vote.

A50 is 50/50 for me right now.

mathblade is confusing.

DGB hard town will probably sheep them.

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I think most everything is one or two shot. A50's "check" doesn't confirm Wheme as town. DGB is one shot, which leaves it prone to the bussing argument. Toog is unlikely to stop a kill. It follows scum are limited shot as well. We've likely blown our payload.

What’s his check? Sorry must have missed it

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Im not sure why A50 claimed my flavor for me but whatever. I don't think claiming flavor or role is smart.

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Root test is my flavor though yes

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So there are Tests, Thoerems and Derivatives. The Derivatives are not AI. I guess there's no reason to expect that the rest of them are either. So all this flavor fishing/hunting whatever was for naught. But why would there be a flavor cop?

Because WHEME IS AN INFORMED SCUMSTER, and he was Informed of someone's FLAVOUR (Just as I was), with ONE MAJOR DIFFERENCE: "flavour" is a "Role"

You need a flavour Cop to try and find that flavour so you can shoot the player with that Role.

So, unless you are ready to kill Xlos today, we can kill me, see my role is indeed Informed neighbor, suddenly get smart (not you, Math.. God forbid) and realize Wheme is Informed SCUM (which makes perfect sense and explains why he didn't claim his flavour when I asked him to), them kill him.

The question remains: Will there still be enough townies with brains above their shoulders to execute Xlos eventually? Or will you all insist on yeeting Toog because of some bizarre play theories than only Mathblade and DGB are capable of imagining?

Like, if I had the money I'd recruit them both to do a plot for a movie and be guaranteed a huge blockbuster revenue

What

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Can you flesh out your objections a little bit more?

Everyone is on a crazy trip this game and it’s kind of insane

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I’m gonna full claim because a50 already claimed my flavor and basically my role and idc anymore

I’m root test and I’m an informed neighbor. I know A50’s flavor.

I assume his role is basically the same and that he knows my flavor

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I don’t believe his hider role or anything because I don’t have anything else

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A50 is ratio test

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I’m gonna full claim because a50 already claimed my flavor and basically my role and idc anymore

I’m root test and I’m an informed neighbor. I know A50’s flavor.

I assume his role is basically the same and that he knows my flavor

Do you have a daychat with A50?

It’s a neighborhood so day/night chat

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Because I was against claiming all game long??? Because it’s dumb to be claiming our roles for 0 fucking reason and especially after scum had a role cop flip. Like what

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Why are you lying about your role when you know I already know about your role?

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e. Words are being thrown around, players can't seem to make up their mind, and some players are saying things contradictiong what both themselves and others are saying

TRUE

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Can someone explain to me why scum defends their partner with their role when the partner had a guilty on them? It doesn’t make sense to me

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I’d rather vote in xios/A50 but I like the people on this wagon more

LOL I JUST DELWRED MY TOOG VOTE CAUSE ITS L-1 GOOD THIGN I CHECKED BEFORE PUTTING SUBMIT

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Idk should I just hammer

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VOTE: toog

eh fck it

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Hey I knew that was a bad vote

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What does that mean l

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Okay if I’m day vig my solve is prob A50/Galron

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Hello I’m Betty dude me up I’m town bitches idk who to igor though p oh

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A50 getting turbo launched was p dumb. Whenever I've run into a pissed off A50 it's because he's been right. Or at least he's ended up being right. That means dgb and Titus are town. Math and wheme are the team. Which makes sense
No way that hood was full town. Unless Ircher is just messing with us there's no way that 2 p hood both had the same role and alignment.

I'm never voting Titus or dgb.

Now i understand why wheme wasn't resolved first. Math was too busy running interference.

A50 told us wheme was scum.

I want to hear from Titus before I vote though.

Bad post

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Oh my god holy fuck there’s 5 players left

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Mathblade/Titus you are both confusing me so much if I’m being completely honest

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I gotta obv town this somehow so we don’t lose LMFAO

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I really haven’t been giving this game any attention and I apologize it has been a confusing game.

Math/Titus how well can you two read eachother

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I think Galron scumslipped by opening voting Toog immediately.

What’s cool is if you think he scum slipped then that shouldn’t make me his partner because if I’m scum I’m probably definitely not making the kills here

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For example on this page alone Titus+Wheme becomes very probable.

Titus has a theory of Wheme + Galron she is pursuing and says everyone should mass claim yet doesn’t push Wheme for a PR/VT claim.

So this tells me that she’s not hunting Wheme to see if informed neighbor is the only thing he has which is sus
And if Titus+Wheme then Titus has been doing all the kills

Because I already full claimed?

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No it’s pretty obvious A50 and my roles are the same

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Isn’t there a saying that when Titus makes sense they are scum or something

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Okay well I am probably going to vote galron here because I don’t think it’s DGB at all and I don’t think it’s
Math/Titus as a team

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So my POE basically puts it as galron confirmed scum and idk who else

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I am honored you would think I would catch something like that

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So my POE basically puts it as galron confirmed scum and idk who else

So in other words you’re a direct clone of Titus which is not sus at all /s

I mean it’s a pretty easy poe with 2 scum and 5 people

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Why is that an Lol?

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If it’s math/Titus I think they pretty much win here they’ve been dominating the thread

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Galron, with two people lock scumreading you, it's in town's best interest to have you vote first.

I don’t think I ageee with this post

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You can iso Wheme in under a minute.

It's all gas. It's un-case-able.

Cases are dumb anyways

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I am down to be the first one to vote

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I disagree with math id rather worry about 1 scum today and then looking into the other one tomorrow

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Oh, yeah.
Wheme has some really easy meta that I'm going to do soon. Toog always radiates scumminess as either alignment so I'm not sure. Titus and A50 I have no idea how to read.

Wheme is a paragon of meta towniness.

T3 May say that but I think I am closer to my scum meta this game rather than my town meta but idk maybe I’m wrong

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I like the idea of Galronvoting first

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I like the idea of Galronvoting first

How about me voting you first?

That is not a good idea

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I don’t know what that is

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Hey mathblade can I ask you a question

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A50 getting turbo launched was p dumb. Whenever I've run into a pissed off A50 it's because he's been right. Or at least he's ended up being right. That means dgb and Titus are town. Math and wheme are the team. Which makes sense
No way that hood was full town. Unless Ircher is just messing with us there's no way that 2 p hood both had the same role and alignment.

I'm never voting Titus or dgb.

Now i understand why wheme wasn't resolved first. Math was too busy running interference.

A50 told us wheme was scum.

I want to hear from Titus before I vote though.

Do you think this post comes from town ever?

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I am fine with voting first

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Why is galron so against voting first?

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Okay I don’t like DGB voting me

Why do you like that Titus

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Can I vote someone

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VOTE: Galron

If we lose I am sorry

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Good job Titus if your scum with DGB or math

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Titus math pls post something not a vote

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Pls give me sanity

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Yeahhh

Phone posting isn’t good for this though

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oh my god seeing you post scared me

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Okay well my two teams were DGB Titus or mathblade galron

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So I think I’m right with mathblade galron

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DGB, do you mind being leashed? I'm not sure if that's a good idea yet. If we leash you to someone unlikely to be NKed, we have more chance of a 50/50 tomorrow or scum nightkill someone widely suspected.

I'm for sure getting NK'd, but isn't it better if the scum doesn't know?

Usually yes. However, if we agree on one or two people being consensus town, it practically forces the NK away from them. It forces either a 50/50 with a townread deciding or scum to shoot a widely scumread slot.

FMPOV, I want you leashed to whichever of Wheme/Galron we don't flip.

DFG always dies here at night

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Galron wahts funny is none of what A50 said makes any sense.

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His scum case is literally "why didnt you claim at the start of day 2"

Ive been against claiming all game and only did it once I found out a50 claimed everything

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Galron making more sense than Wheme. Is it AI?

His whole case is trying to paint A50 as right when A50 was completely wrong so I don’t know what your talking about

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What have you done to convince me of your alignment either way?

I haven’t made posts that come from scum today like galron

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Galrons play today doesnt make sense as town especially his interactions with Titus

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I also don’t make cases that’s not how I play mafia you can ask Titus if you don’t believe me

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I got work for next 14 hours so probably won’t be around

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Or B> I am truth telling about being a vig enabler and Wheme is a informed neighbor busdriver/redirector strongma

LOL

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Galrons play today doesnt make sense as town especially his interactions with Titus

Go on

He only ignores you about voting first if he’s scum not knowing what to do IMO

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Or B> I am truth telling about being a vig enabler and Wheme is a informed neighbor busdriver/redirector strongma

LOL

Yes I wrote it for maximum laughs so people could see just how absurd me scum really is.

Wheme assume I am mod cleared town. Who is scum with Galron to you?

I am never voting DGB

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See when I am town and I entered the day my immediate thoughts were wow there’s 5 people and I can easily Poe one of them out to be scum

If galron was town he would have voted me when Titus asked for him to vote first

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Because he should have townread Titus by then and thought it was me/math

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Or B> I am truth telling about being a vig enabler and Wheme is a informed neighbor busdriver/redirector strongma

LOL

Yes I wrote it for maximum laughs so people could see just how absurd me scum really is.

Wheme assume I am mod cleared town. Who is scum with Galron to you?

I am never voting DGB

I didn’t ask you to.

I asked you who would be scum with Galron if I was mod confirmed town? Moving your vote here is antitown AF

So would it be DGB or Titus?

I’m implying it would be Titus because the only way I vote DGB is if he somehow lives and then claims a guilty on me in 3 person

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I just don’t see him ever faking a guilty and then calling xios town

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Also why has no one brought up that galrons read on me is a sheep on A50 for “being mad cause he was right” when the dude literally said “vote xios and if he flips town vote me after” lmfao

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I mean can’t he just blame a bus driver/ redirect? You clearly believe there’s one

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Why wouldn’t you defend him if he was wrong if you believe there’s a bus driver

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I don’t know I don’t think I can really convince you guys that galron is scum and I’d rather flip 1 scum than try to find out who both of them are

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Idk

I’ll probably reread sometime tomorrow when galron flips

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If you think his case of sheeping A50 is town please let me know though

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Like him making those posts made me way more confident to vote him rather than thinking it’s DGB/Titus.

Does DGB/Galron make sense

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Idk

I’ll probably reread sometime tomorrow when galron flips

Why are you assuming you’ll be alive?

If DGB scum or Titus scum they kill you for voting Galron first.
Titus scum would be puppeting me saying hey it’s DGB Galron and then kills you.
DGB thinking Titus town had checked you and you’re dead.
Then Titus votes DGB and DGB votes Titus
Or Titus is scum bus driver / redirect and wants DGB leashed somewhere for a fake result.

DGB scum kills you then comes in and can fake a guilty on me then votes me immediately then Titus is in a which one is it scenario.

I very much see a world in which you’re killed instead of DGB if you’re town and Galron is scum

Like him making those posts made me way more confident to vote him rather than thinking it’s DGB/Titus.

Does DGB/Galron make sense

It can't be dgb/Titus I'd have been hammered

I’m talking in past tense I know your scum dude

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Idk

I’ll probably reread sometime tomorrow when galron flips

Why are you assuming you’ll be alive?

If DGB scum or Titus scum they kill you for voting Galron first.
Titus scum would be puppeting me saying hey it’s DGB Galron and then kills you.
DGB thinking Titus town had checked you and you’re dead.
Then Titus votes DGB and DGB votes Titus
Or Titus is scum bus driver / redirect and wants DGB leashed somewhere for a fake result.

DGB scum kills you then comes in and can fake a guilty on me then votes me immediately then Titus is in a which one is it scenario.

I very much see a world in which you’re killed instead of DGB if you’re town and Galron is scum

I pray I die at night lmfao I don’t see it happening though

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I think if I’m scum with DGB i wouldn’t have acted the way I did around Nom guilty

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If Galron is town, I am town

He’s not though

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It’s going to be so hard for me to vote DGB Idk

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Do you two have enough expierence with eachother to call eachother town

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LOL

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Please just vote him out maybe we learn more about setup from his flip

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Please don’t

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I won’t be around but if you guys want to gamble and lose then whatevevr

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Hey Titus/math how much do you guys trust me

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I have something else that can’t lose us the game from my POV

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UNVOTE:

BRB

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If you guys trust me double vote galron

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I won’t hammer until you want me to

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If you don’t trust me then that’s fine we don’t have to do this

I’m just more comfortable with this from my POV instead of you both trying to vote me and if one of you are scum you hammer

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From my POV this way is risk free but it’s up to you two

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If I don’t hammer which I won’t that proves I’m not scum

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It literally does because if I’m scum I hammer him and I win

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This way can 100% clear me lmfao

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If I don’t hammer which I won’t that proves I’m not scum

It would prove DGB Wheme is not a thing, but DGB Wheme can be excluded by just flipping Galron.

So the only possible team I can be on is galron

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I’m just trying to find some way to sort this out without the possibility of losing the game

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VOTE: Galron

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Gg’s thanks for modding Ircher sorry I didn’t give this game a lot of attention early on. Oh yeah sorry for pming everyone about fast night I just replied to the pm I didn’t know that’s how it worked. I wonder if every time I do that am I sending a message to everyone…