Mini 1927: Breaking Bad Mafia - Game Over

Robbnva · Post Post #11 (isolation #1) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:31 am

Well this game is just bustling with activity...

Robbnva · Post Post #13 (isolation #2) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:57 am

I guess sarcasm is lost on you

Robbnva · Post Post #17 (isolation #3) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:00 am

Haven't seen uzi in a while. Sup

Robbnva · Post Post #19 (isolation #4) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:14 pm

There was a reason though. It's implied but it's there.

Robbnva · Post Post #21 (isolation #5) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:18 pm

Oh misunderstood your post

Robbnva · Post Post #28 (isolation #6) » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:04 am

In post 26, iDanyboy wrote:Odd for Chik and Vecna to throw shade on the player trying to get discussion started. VOTE: Vecna

I don't see Chick doing anything of the sort. All chick did was question why somebody had uzi as a town read, which is a good question

Robbnva · Post Post #30 (isolation #7) » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:51 am

VOTE: Edosurist

Robbnva · Post Post #34 (isolation #8) » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:14 am

In post 32, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 17, Robbnva wrote:Haven't seen uzi in a while. Sup
Same old, same old.

You?

Not too bad. Thanks

Robbnva · Post Post #40 (isolation #9) » Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:57 am

Wonder why edo hasn't posted despite logging in at least twice since the game opened. Not even a hi post

Robbnva · Post Post #45 (isolation #10) » Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:16 pm

In post 42, Edosurist wrote:Why you gotta be all nosy about my activity like that? You think it's alignment indicative?

Can be. Not to mention it's annoying

Robbnva · Post Post #47 (isolation #11) » Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:35 pm

Not sure what I want to do. I want people to say stuff

Robbnva · Post Post #60 (isolation #12) » Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:55 am

Did a search to check. Like 38 times he's said that exact phrase.

It's sort of like my sup which I did mostly on jfsf.

It is null. Can't town read or scum read off it.

VOTE: moza

Assigning town reads too easily. Doesn't seem genuine

Robbnva · Post Post #69 (isolation #13) » Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:26 am

Trying to get everyone to work together is a great idea if you can manage it. Though I'm not thinking moza is town so don't hold much stock in his opinions

Robbnva · Post Post #71 (isolation #14) » Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:13 pm

If I was trying to blend in I wouldn't have said to not trust one of the people a50 was suggesting to work with.

Robbnva · Post Post #73 (isolation #15) » Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:49 pm

It wasn't a defense.

Robbnva · Post Post #75 (isolation #16) » Sat Jul 15, 2017 2:55 pm

Robbnva · Post Post #80 (isolation #17) » Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:48 pm

How can you understand where moz is coming from? Town reading you for something null is weird.

Robbnva · Post Post #91 (isolation #18) » Sun Jul 16, 2017 4:17 am

In post 85, Wisdom wrote:sure
And scum want to appear doing positive things

Sort of like what you've done?

Robbnva · Post Post #92 (isolation #19) » Sun Jul 16, 2017 4:19 am

In post 90, Wisdom wrote:there are no tells, nor a ranking between them
rob feels scummy
you feel scummy
I have one vote

You accused me of something I clearly wasn't doing. So I shouldn't be scummy to you.

Robbnva · Post Post #96 (isolation #20) » Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:31 am

In post 94, Wisdom wrote:
In post 91, Robbnva wrote:
In post 85, Wisdom wrote:sure
And scum want to appear doing positive things
Sort of like what you've done?
what positive thing have i done?

Well you aren't actually doing anything positive but you're trying to.

And we clearly have a different definition of blending in cause standing out and not blending in is what I actually did. Blending in would not be creating any waves, it would be sucking up to everyone trying to buddy them.

So yeah no blending in my me. If you're town do better please.

Robbnva · Post Post #99 (isolation #21) » Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:35 am

How is wisdom doing anything townish?

Chick doesn't seem scummy to me. Not yet anyway

Robbnva · Post Post #100 (isolation #22) » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:06 am

Hoped activity picks up once the weekend is over.

Robbnva · Post Post #108 (isolation #23) » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:36 am

After rereading his post the "whatever his name is" he's referring to moza and I like that read. I would like to hear why he's suspicious of chick and not suspicious of wisdom. @venca. Please explain. Thanks.

Robbnva · Post Post #110 (isolation #24) » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:25 am

You are certainly entitled to do that but don't discourage others from focusing on him.

Robbnva · Post Post #114 (isolation #25) » Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:19 am

In post 112, Wisdom wrote:no votes on robb or backhand
me is sad

well when you falsely accuse people of something, people tend not to follow you.

I do have a question though. When you point out that black actually attempted to blend and thus confirming that I wasn't really doing it. Why didn't you vote him? This tells me that blending in isn't really scummy for you so why are you acting like it is?

Robbnva · Post Post #116 (isolation #26) » Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:22 am

like I was the first to cast a serious vote with reasons. That isn't blending in, that is clearly standing out. Wisdom needs rope

p.edit but when you made that statement you basically confirmed I wasn't blending in.

Robbnva · Post Post #118 (isolation #27) » Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:24 am

In post 83, Wisdom wrote:now thats blending in

This implies that this is a better example of blending in and since I never attempted to blend in at all, your vote should have changed.

let's lynch wisdom yall

p.edit - no I absolutely wasn't. standing out and doing something nobody else is doing is the opposite of blending in,

Robbnva · Post Post #120 (isolation #28) » Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:28 am

you clearly don't know the definition of blending in, so let me help you

"to look or seem the same as surrounding people or things and therefore not be easily noticeable:"

That doesn't describe me at all. Nice try scum

Robbnva · Post Post #123 (isolation #29) » Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:38 am

In post 122, Vaxkiller wrote:I'm not ignoring him, I'm just not seeing much there.

falsely accusing people of something isn't anything?

Robbnva · Post Post #125 (isolation #30) » Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:41 am

why the unexplained vote change while under pressure?

Robbnva · Post Post #127 (isolation #31) » Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:41 am

ok, let's wagon wisdom now. no change he is town at this point.

Robbnva · Post Post #129 (isolation #32) » Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:20 am

I have no way of verifying that, but he looks like scum and I lynch people who look like scum.

Robbnva · Post Post #132 (isolation #33) » Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:40 am

Well we shouldn't be encouraging anti-town behaviour especially when it comes off as scummy, plus he already has a couple strikes against him.

Town should be trying to work together and he clearly doesn't want to so that makes me think he is scum.

Robbnva · Post Post #134 (isolation #34) » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:01 am

already pointed them out

1. falsely accused people of something they weren't even doing
2. when he sees somebody who is actually doing what he does, he doesn't change his vote
3. when he comes back he seems upset there are not more votes for his scum read but while under pressure decides to drop his vote and move to somebody he hasn't really mentioned for no reason.
4. When asked for a reason he refuses to give one.

So I guess more than a couple...

Robbnva · Post Post #136 (isolation #35) » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:17 am

maybe if it were a n00b, but wisdom isn't a n00b.

Robbnva · Post Post #137 (isolation #36) » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:21 am

VOTE: wisdom
realize I forgot to do that.

Robbnva · Post Post #148 (isolation #37) » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:03 pm

In post 146, Chickadee wrote:No such thing.

Yeah there's is. But that's not the case here I don't think.

Robbnva · Post Post #150 (isolation #38) » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:09 pm

Oh I agree with that also. That's easy to fake which is why you have to trust your gut sometimes.

Robbnva · Post Post #168 (isolation #39) » Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:15 am

In post 162, Wisdom wrote:
In post 138, mozamis wrote:ok, note to self do not lynch Rob, Chick or Almost today!
Why chick?

Since you are asking others questions, can you please answer mine? Why did you vote chick.

Robbnva · Post Post #173 (isolation #40) » Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:04 am

so what kind of reads do you have now chick? who are you scum reading and why?

Robbnva · Post Post #179 (isolation #41) » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:49 am

So do I but I have thoughts on part of what chick asked. So I'll wait

Robbnva · Post Post #180 (isolation #42) » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:57 am

In post 178, Wisdom wrote:
In post 176, Almost50 wrote:VOTE: Wisdom
sup?
newbies are allowed to scumread me, youre not

So you aren't going to answer my question?

Yeah this needs rope

Robbnva · Post Post #182 (isolation #43) » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:09 am

In post 125, Robbnva wrote:why the unexplained vote change while under pressure?

Robbnva · Post Post #183 (isolation #44) » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:09 am

And "because" isn't an acceptable answer. You need to explain why you voted/scum reading chick

Robbnva · Post Post #186 (isolation #45) » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:37 am

In post 184, Wisdom wrote:no i really dont

ok, your time in this game will be limited. have a nice day

Robbnva · Post Post #191 (isolation #46) » Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:01 am

I don't understand your request. I'm not mad at him. I think he's scum. There is no "making nice" that needs to be done. I've given him ample opportunity to do something to make me change my read, he hasn't been able to.

Robbnva · Post Post #196 (isolation #47) » Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:12 am

no wisdom needs rope first.

Robbnva · Post Post #204 (isolation #48) » Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:42 am

In post 201, Vaxkiller wrote:
In post 196, Robbnva wrote:no wisdom needs rope first.
You know your being just as obstinate as wisdom here. The way the message comes off you are saying other people are bringing up valid points? Who?

Not sure how you interpreted it that way. Because that isn't what I am saying. I am saying that I have brought up valid points and I think based on what is available to us, he is the best lynch.

In post 202, Vecna wrote:And youre sure its not more of an ego thing because he refuses to respond to your requests? And brushes you off as the newby thats not worth responding to? Thats what it looks like to everyone, and if Wisdom is actually scum here - thats what he's counting on and what will make his strategy work. And youre providing him with the cover, and falling right in his trap.

Patience young one

Considering i have already provided numerous reasons why i am scum reading him, no I don't really think it is an ego thing. He is doing things that I think are legitimately scummy and I lynch people who I think are scummy.

I think it's funny that you think he is treating me like a newby when I have been on site longer than he has, so clearly I am not a newby. I don't see myself ever changing my vote off him, and I am willing to bet anything (if this was allowed) that he will be gone from this game either by the end of D1 or end of D2

Robbnva · Post Post #207 (isolation #49) » Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:00 am

If he plays in a way that causes me to scum read him, I will attempt to vote and lynch him.

Robbnva · Post Post #210 (isolation #50) » Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:18 am

How can you tell the difference between townie playing like scum and scum being scummy?

I can't tell the difference.

I look at what wisdom has done and ask myself if I would do that as town? I say no

I then as myself do I think other townies would do that as town? I think probably not.

If I can't see town motivation for something, I conclude there must not be any. Town need to work together and be transparent. Wisdom isn't doing that and actually doesn't want to work together. So to me, he is scum.

Robbnva · Post Post #215 (isolation #51) » Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:40 am

I'll succeed. Don't worry

Robbnva · Post Post #229 (isolation #52) » Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:30 pm

You can vote wisdom

Robbnva · Post Post #232 (isolation #53) » Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:45 pm

Probably moz.

That was a useless exercise though.

Robbnva · Post Post #235 (isolation #54) » Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:12 pm

I can't make associations until I know what he flipped, who was on the wagon, why they were on the wagon.

I can't really say who'd I'd vote if he flipped scum for the same reasons. I don't know who's on the wagon and why they were in the wagon. I'd also need to see what happened at night. Who's killed, what results if any are available.

Robbnva · Post Post #250 (isolation #55) » Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:17 pm

In post 242, Chickadee wrote:Not saying LUV isn't scum. He might be (I have a town lean on him), just that now isn't the time to pressure him. It's not going to make him appear.

What has he done to warrant the town lean?

Robbnva · Post Post #251 (isolation #56) » Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:19 pm

In post 244, Desperado wrote:
In post 221, Chickadee wrote:I'm really not clicking with you Desp. You vote me, then defend the point I was making, then say you're fine with where your vote is. What about that warrants '???'?
none of these things are related, hence my confusion

Why are you good with your vote on her?

Robbnva · Post Post #253 (isolation #57) » Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:58 pm

In post 249, Vecna wrote:All of these statements are false.

The playstyle statement isn't false.

Robbnva · Post Post #254 (isolation #58) » Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:59 pm

In post 165, Vecna wrote:Im still fine with a scumread on both moz and chickadee here. Superficial activity and playstyle.

Guess it does work to impress the masses. Yawn

See. Here is where you say it. So why are you denying something that was clearly true?

Robbnva · Post Post #258 (isolation #59) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:24 am

Lynched somebody because of their play style can be considered a policy lynch though.

Robbnva · Post Post #261 (isolation #60) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:52 am

I think your issue is with the use of the word play style. Play style indicates how they always play.

Like I scum read wisdom for his play this game.

Robbnva · Post Post #264 (isolation #61) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:52 am

In post 262, Vaxkiller wrote:Is vecnas reasoning for voting anyone "playstyle"

it would be helpful if you just read the conversation that took place. That should give you the context and will probably answer your own question.

Robbnva · Post Post #272 (isolation #62) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:32 am

Robbnva · Post Post #281 (isolation #63) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:11 am

If they exsist in mini normals, they definitely can exist in a mini theme

Robbnva · Post Post #287 (isolation #64) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:11 am

VOTE: vecna

Robbnva · Post Post #292 (isolation #65) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:32 am

In post 291, Almost50 wrote:Overall I'm not comfortable having you around anymore.

this

Robbnva · Post Post #321 (isolation #66) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:43 pm

I'm not jumping off. It's him or wisdom as far as I'm concerned.

And to whoever said scum would never gambit like that...

naive as fuck you are.

Robbnva · Post Post #326 (isolation #67) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:01 pm

In post 323, mozamis wrote:
In post 321, Robbnva wrote:And to whoever said scum would never gambit like that... naive as fuck you are.
Nope. I'm experienced. Go thorugh all my games. theres lots of reaction tests. I'm ninety nine per cent sure they were all town.
Scum want to blend in. They might gambit. But not with fake vigging.
Look whats happend to Vecna for gods sake! great gambit, good bledning in lol

You know not all scum try to blend in right? I don't. RC doesn't, kuribo didn't. I'm sure there are more also but my memory sucks.

I'm pretty sure if I tried I could find scum faking a day kill

Robbnva · Post Post #332 (isolation #68) » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:32 pm

In post 330, mozamis wrote:
In post 326, Robbnva wrote:You know not all scum try to blend in right?
Of course. Like I sadi, I have played a lot of games. TYhe last game I was in, I was scum. I "blended" whilst scumpartner Mulch broke the record for number of posts, over a 1000 lol. He wasn't blending...
However, MOST do ( the other 3 of us all blended...)

But SPECIFICALLY: this seems a very unlikely scum gambit. Fake vigs ALWAYS piss people off. He's drawn so much attention to himself, and almost got himself lynched. It just looks like dumb town.
It just seems unlikely. Not impossible. But unlikely.

But it's. Stupid gambit that hurt town so he doesn't get a free ride from me. Gambits are so common now they certainly shouldn't be given an automatic town read for it.

Doing some research he did play a game with RC who gambits a ton. Scum won that game and RC must have claimed to be a vig or something.

Anyone who has seen RC as scum definitely could have picked up some tricks of manipulation.

So I'll ignore the gambit completely and put him at null. His play before the gambit wasn't impressive and he hasn't logged in since the gambit.

So I'll keep my vote until I see something that makes me decide one way or another on him. Wisdom isn't getting lynched it seems so no point in going back to him. Maybe the real vig (if there is one) can shoot him.

Robbnva · Post Post #357 (isolation #69) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:27 am

Still killing you later wisdom but
VOTE: vax

Robbnva · Post Post #361 (isolation #70) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:11 am

You could be poison doc and still be mafia. Ricin killed a "bad" person if I remember correctly plus I'm not sure if I think town has 2 doctors.

Plus your comment about town not having a day kill based off your flavor doesn't really make sense to me

Robbnva · Post Post #362 (isolation #71) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:11 am

Plus that could be your fake claim

Robbnva · Post Post #364 (isolation #72) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:06 am

What's the point in asking name? Scum have been given fake claims

Robbnva · Post Post #378 (isolation #73) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:31 am

In post 373, Desperado wrote:
In post 356, Wisdom wrote:VOTE: vax

In post 357, Robbnva wrote:Still killing you later wisdom but
VOTE: vax
either of you want to share with the class?

this robb vote in particular does not make a lick of sense. why do you think wisdom is bussing right now?

I'd answered but wisdom basically did it for me

Robbnva · Post Post #383 (isolation #74) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:27 am

In post 380, Desperado wrote:
In post 378, Robbnva wrote:I'd answered but wisdom basically did it for me
huh??

so you think scum are just saccing vax for...what exactly?

It really doesn't matter what I think. Rn I want to lynch who I'm voting and wisdom is going to get what he deserves later.

Robbnva · Post Post #385 (isolation #75) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:33 am

But that doesn't mean he's town. I've explained scum doctor is possible

Robbnva · Post Post #389 (isolation #76) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:37 am

In post 386, gerryoat wrote:so you're saying mafia has a poisoner and a poison doc?

Why can't poisoner be 3rd party?

Robbnva · Post Post #390 (isolation #77) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:37 am

In post 388, gerryoat wrote:even if he is mafia, why not use him to heal people who get poisoned that are town for now?

I don't know you are town.

Robbnva · Post Post #395 (isolation #78) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:44 am

In post 393, Desperado wrote:@ robb i dont understand why you're being evasive about this

if you think vax and wisdom are both scum you really need to explain it

I mean if you've played mafia for any given amount of time, it's pretty obvious.

If scum gets caught, at least one partner is going to get on early. Plus I scum read wisdom regardless of what alignment vax is.

Robbnva · Post Post #396 (isolation #79) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:46 am

In post 394, gerryoat wrote:
In post 390, Robbnva wrote:
In post 388, gerryoat wrote:even if he is mafia, why not use him to heal people who get poisoned that are town for now?
I don't know you are town.
lolol

if i was mafia with vax. wouldnt i just tell him in mafia chat? or if we dont have day talk, make a code at night that if i'm poisoned i post and he can see?

You wouldn't be able to milk that for town cred like you are trying to do now. I mean you could be town but I haven't seen enough from you to think you are and if posioner is 3rd party you being poisoned doesn't clear you.

So vax can do whatever he wants with his role. I'm doing what I want with my vote.

Robbnva · Post Post #402 (isolation #80) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:22 pm

Pretty sure there is no town poisoner.

Robbnva · Post Post #404 (isolation #81) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:46 pm

3 mafia and a sk has been done before.
2 mafia and a sk is also a possibility.

So I don't think it's too much power, especially in a role madness game.

Robbnva · Post Post #468 (isolation #82) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 12:36 am

In post 418, Almost50 wrote:
In post 402, Robbnva wrote:Pretty sure there is no town poisoner.
Then you have no case against Vax.

Why are you not considering mafia poison doc?

Town having 2 docs is less likely imo.

Town having one and mafia having one makes more sense, especially considering the "good guy" in the show poisoned a "bad guy".

Im pretty sure I explained this already.

Robbnva · Post Post #470 (isolation #83) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 12:40 am

In post 437, gerryoat wrote:I don't think we'd have a poison doc that's mafia.

Why not? Why would town have 2 doctors and mafia probably having none with multiple killing roles ?

Robbnva · Post Post #471 (isolation #84) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 12:43 am

In post 442, gerryoat wrote:I don't see how a 3rd party getting a poisoner role is fair at all to them, because they could be killed by mafia or lynched by town and they only get a delayed kill. which could be stopped by a day doctor at any time

This is why mafia poison doc makes sense. Mafia poison doc could let townies poisoned die. I definitely don't
Think the poisoner is mafia cause no mafia worth anything would target you. Town poisoner or 3rd party probably would though

Robbnva · Post Post #472 (isolation #85) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 12:48 am

In post 452, gerryoat wrote:Also when I said it cleared me, you have to understand that on Epicmafia Poisoner is a mafia only role

We aren't on EM honey and you've been here long enough to know things aren't the same.

Robbnva · Post Post #475 (isolation #86) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:19 am

No idea how people are town reading wisdom.

Robbnva · Post Post #476 (isolation #87) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:24 am

I also don't feel comfortable with a50 trying to act like he's the leader. Explanation of how desp is a town read would be helpful also.

I have to clear some things up before this day ends.

Robbnva · Post Post #479 (isolation #88) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:48 am

The poison doctor could also be a lie. We can try and let him confirm himself but it's Gerry so meh

Robbnva · Post Post #491 (isolation #89) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:13 am

Tomorrow I'll reread stuff. I need to sort some reads.

Robbnva · Post Post #499 (isolation #90) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:20 am

I thought ricin had no cure. Got to research that.

Robbnva · Post Post #511 (isolation #91) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:25 am

Yeah vax and Gerry aren't lock town.

Robbnva · Post Post #517 (isolation #92) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:19 am

In post 514, Desperado wrote:
In post 513, mozamis wrote:very unlikely to be a 3rd party in a mini btw.
huh??

and i explained my danny vote, the reason didn't change overnight.

It wasn't a good one yesterday. Why do you think it's still a good one?

Robbnva · Post Post #520 (isolation #93) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:21 am

In post 513, mozamis wrote:very unlikely to be a 3rd party in a mini btw.

There have been 3rd parties in normals that go through a review process. There certainly can be one in a theme that doesn't.

Robbnva · Post Post #522 (isolation #94) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:22 am

In post 515, Wisdom wrote:
In post 483, gerryoat wrote:Then xplain to me the balance aspect.
give me the full setup and i will
Until then, no balance excuses

There is no guarantee this game is balanced. I don't even think they are required to be.

Robbnva · Post Post #528 (isolation #95) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:28 am

In post 525, mozamis wrote:
In post 520, Robbnva wrote:here have been 3rd parties in normals that go through a review process. There certainly can be one in a theme that doesn't.
i have played a few of these. Never seen them
its very unlikely.
possible, but unlikrly.
lets not argue the toss though.
your likely town so we need to stick together.

VOTE: moz

3rd party is probably most likely.

Robbnva · Post Post #529 (isolation #96) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:30 am

In post 523, Desperado wrote:
In post 517, Robbnva wrote:It wasn't a good one yesterday. Why do you think it's still a good one?
danny had a really scummy reaction to vecna's reaction test and his presence on that wagon made the least sense of anyone

vecna got lynched and flipped town

why would i let this go?

Did he? Clearly I just said your reason wasn't good yesterday so obviously I don't agree with that. You need to be really familiar with somebody to know if their reaction is townie or scummy

Robbnva · Post Post #560 (isolation #97) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:57 am

In post 542, mozamis wrote:
In post 528, Robbnva wrote:VOTE: moz

3rd party is probably most likely.
oh for ffs.
i doubt it, but even if it is, why does does that make me scum?

It's suspicious how you are ignoring what's been discussed plus it felt like you are trying to pocket me. It's suspicious and since I'm kind of confused right now, I felt like you were a good vote.

Robbnva · Post Post #561 (isolation #98) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:59 am

In post 545, mozamis wrote:
In post 455, Wisdom wrote:nah
Poisoner doesnt claim doc at dayvig
yes, this a good point. why on earth would the poisoner/sk whatever claim doc, thus invitng the nk on himself?

Vax is town.
So is wisdom. probably lol

I don't actually think it's a good point.

Even if vax is legit poison doc, it doesn't mean he's guaranteed to be town.

I have it 90% chance he's poison doc

50% chance he's mafia poison doc

Robbnva · Post Post #562 (isolation #99) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:01 am

In post 548, mozamis wrote:no hang on, don't we need confirmation of Vax's role? And only way of that is him healing Gerry?

Yes, The only way to confirm his role is to heal. I haven't seen anything from Gerry that makes me think he should be healed though.

Robbnva · Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:05 am

In post 541, Wisdom wrote:need more of those^

Can I get your top 3 scum with reasons please.

Robbnva · Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:34 am

In post 571, gerryoat wrote:
In post 522, Robbnva wrote:
In post 515, Wisdom wrote:
In post 483, gerryoat wrote:Then xplain to me the balance aspect.
give me the full setup and i will
Until then, no balance excuses
There is no guarantee this game is balanced. I don't even think they are required to be.
pretty sure they have to go to a balance review before being approved.

No they don't. They don't even need to be reviewed plus

viewtopic.php?p=9322436#p9322436

Possibly swingy which definitely implies not balanced.

We aren't playing a normal here. Anything goes in a theme game.

Robbnva · Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:44 am

In post 579, gerryoat wrote:I'm town. and since there are 11 ppl left, then there will be 10 after i die, 9 after lynch, 8 after kill. Meaning since I'm town, and if we mislynch, there is only 4 town against 4 non town (assuming mafia doesnt ill 3rd party)

these numbers will be off some so we really need to decide what to do with you and also decide right on the lynch.

Who are your top 3 scum and why please

Robbnva · Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:56 am

In post 580, gerryoat wrote:does anyone not see how letting someone die at poison is awful for us right now?

The limited knowledge I have of you, letting you die would probably be ok but I think we should probably prove the role.

Robbnva · Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:58 am

So I against my better judgement I'm voting for proving the role. Let's see if it exists first and then we can discuss alignment

Robbnva · Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:12 am

Depending on how things go today there could be another death.

I'll look at your a50 post. I'm suspicious of him also

Robbnva · Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:15 am

VOTE: a50
I actually like the point you made about a50. I was already suspicious of him and I question a bunch of his reads. Plus he acts like he's town leader when he's done nothing to earn it

Robbnva · Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:20 am

In post 409, Almost50 wrote:Currently I wouldn't even consider lynching in Wisdom, Chicka, Desperado & Vax.

This list is weird. Those names should definitely be under more suspicion. The fact he has them as his "do not lynch" list is weird.

Chick and wisdom have done nothing to warrant a town read.
Desp I could see I guess but personally he has been giving me a lamist vibe.

Robbnva · Post Post #590 (isolation #108) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 1:46 pm

Start with reads that make sense. His make none

Robbnva · Post Post #597 (isolation #109) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:27 pm

In post 591, Almost50 wrote:And I'[m pretty sure your logic is faulty and here's why:

Town had a doctor who could stop the Mafia kills but could not protect against the SK/Poisoner

Now if Mafia had a Poison Doctor they would be practically immune to the Poisoner kills, so those can only hot TOWN and cannot be prevented on TOWN.

Can you see the problem(s) now?

1- Scum have 2 kills on Town and Town don't even have a Vig to counter.
2- Mafia can kill the Poisoner but not vise versa
3- As per #2 Scum are almost invincible because the Poisoner cannot hurt them AND is actually only helping them kill Town faster. In other words MAFIA becomes VERY MUCH overpowered

When you include a 3P killer it is always to balance the setup, not to help Mafia against Town. You don't give Mafia immunity against the 3P kill and leave Town exposed to it while the 3P is also exposed to the Mafia kill

Said another way: Mafia Poison Doc = Town can only be protected against half the night threats AND it's as good as random, while Mafia are protected against ALL night threats and it's 100% because the Poisoner's kill is DELAYED by default.

no your logic is faulty, I seriously doubt town has 2 doctors. town having 1 and scum having 1 make more sense. Scum being protected from poision actually makes a lot of sense, especially since they are already out numbered.

moving on

1. you don't know if town have a vig or not actually
2. and? that is weak logic
3. scum aren't invincible because we have roles that can investigate them, plus we still have our voice and our vote.

Robbnva · Post Post #598 (isolation #110) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:28 pm

In post 592, Almost50 wrote:
In post 469, Wisdom wrote:i suppose scum poison doc is possible
No, it's not. Not in a mini.

based off what exactly? you do realize there are no rules to follow in a theme game like they do in a normal. Pretty much anything goes.

Robbnva · Post Post #600 (isolation #111) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:30 pm

let's assume town does have a vig. does that change your opinion of mafia poison doc?

Robbnva · Post Post #601 (isolation #112) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:31 pm

In post 599, Chickadee wrote:I think everyone scum reading A50 is reaching. Robb, you just don't like that he's being active and trying to get out in front of things. I think he's doing a great job of trying to get activity going. And I don't think his reads are that odd.

he's a lot of talk without much substance though.

Robbnva · Post Post #603 (isolation #113) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:35 pm

No I want town to work together but your reads make no sense, so does your lynch pool. People you town read are the people I scum read so I don't trust you.

I am not slinging mud at anyone though. Wis has been legitimately scummy since day 1 and when I have tried to interact with him to determine his alignment he has refused to give me anything, so clearly he is scum and it continues day 2.

As for Desp, I just haven't seen anything from him that impresses me. His day 2 posts seem more like scum vying for town cred rather than genuine town

Robbnva · Post Post #607 (isolation #114) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:52 pm

In post 606, Chickadee wrote:I've seen a lot of scum A50 and this feels a lot different. He's making a lot of sense to me.

examples please? feels like you could be town reading him cause he town reads you.

my biggest issue with you is post 39 you laugh at being asked for reads but 20 posts later you seem to have at least 2, possibly more. that doesn't read genuine to me. not much happened in those 20 posts imo

Robbnva · Post Post #610 (isolation #115) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:56 pm

The only way you claiming to be poisioned but are the poisioner makes sense is if it's a one shot. I can't imagine that that it is unlimited

Robbnva · Post Post #611 (isolation #116) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:00 pm

There is still a chance that there is no poison doc

Robbnva · Post Post #614 (isolation #117) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:07 pm

Desp hasn't really scum hunted this game and is voting Danny for his reaction alone which is bad. He's literally done nothing else of value. You can only gauge reactions if you know a person well enough which I doubt he does.

So desp scum/chick scum seems right to me.
Wisdom is probably the 3rd party. Possible scum but definitely not town.

Robbnva · Post Post #617 (isolation #118) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:10 pm

A50's 604 is so bad I almost want to say Gerry is town based on the theory he's trying to sell. Almost...

I definitely don't want a50 as my leader if he's town, and anyone else who is town should reject it also.

Sounds like trump paranoia

Robbnva · Post Post #618 (isolation #119) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:11 pm

In post 615, Wisdom wrote:and id poison gerry why?

I haven't been able to understand your motives all game. What make you think I'd be able to now?

Robbnva · Post Post #620 (isolation #120) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:24 pm

In post 460, Wisdom wrote:gerry reads poisoned mafia whos trying to be healed
Let him die

Maybe this answers your question?

Attack low hanging fruit, advocate against them being saved, Discredit them in the process.

Just spit balling though.

Robbnva · Post Post #626 (isolation #121) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:45 pm

In post 621, Almost50 wrote:OK. Got it. You suspect EVERYONE. Is there someone who is NOT a possible lynch to you today? Anyone at all?

Nice discred attempt. Damn now idk what to do.

Robbnva · Post Post #630 (isolation #122) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:50 pm

In post 629, Almost50 wrote:
In post 603, Robbnva wrote:People you town read are the people I scum read so I don't trust you.
And that's why you'd be the worst Vig EVER if there IS one.

I'm dying right now.

Robbnva · Post Post #631 (isolation #123) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:51 pm

In post 628, mozamis wrote:look at almost 591. vintage scum.
literally no reads, scum hunting at all.
but a whole lot of theory, lots of words, lots of verbeage lol
utter nonsense.

This plus he didn't answer my question about assuming town has a vig.

Robbnva · Post Post #634 (isolation #124) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:57 pm

I don't rely on shitty meta. I can only judge him on his play this game

Robbnva · Post Post #637 (isolation #125) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:00 pm

In post 635, Almost50 wrote:
In post 603, Robbnva wrote:As for Desp, I just haven't seen anything from him that impresses me.
Tbh, I have not seen anything from
YOU

on D2
that does NOT make me want to vomit. Your posts are disgusting and you're throwing shit all around and at EVERYONE. Either you're SCUM or one of the WORST TOWM PLAYERS EVER.

Oh hell no Bitch. Don't you go fucking insult my play.

Robbnva · Post Post #638 (isolation #126) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:06 pm

I've made some very good posts and I'm very pissed off you are saying I'm throwing shit around. Everything I said makes sense and they make 10x more sense than anything you've said.

Chick and desp have literally done nothing protown. No genuine scum hunting. Desp's vote for "bad reaction " was bad enough for day 1, it doesn't get better day 2.

You agreeing with it and also all your poison doc theories make no sense from a scum pov.

So please I'm asking you nicely. Don't toss another insult my way again. Attack my posts, don't attack me. Don't call me a bad player when I haven't done anything bad except disagree with you and my reasons for disagreeing with you actually make sense.

Robbnva · Post Post #640 (isolation #127) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:12 pm

In post 607, Robbnva wrote:
In post 606, Chickadee wrote:I've seen a lot of scum A50 and this feels a lot different. He's making a lot of sense to me.
examples please? feels like you could be town reading him cause he town reads you.

my biggest issue with you is post 39 you laugh at being asked for reads but 20 posts later you seem to have at least 2, possibly more. that doesn't read genuine to me. not much happened in those 20 posts imo

Like this is a damn good point and chick completely ignores it.

That right there tells me I'm on the right track. She responds to 2 posts made after, one of those was 609 which is 2 posts after mine.

@a50, The fact that you get mad cause people don't agree with you points to scum not town to me.

And now you resorted to personal insults on my play, you are dead to me.

Robbnva · Post Post #641 (isolation #128) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:12 pm

Wisdom. Consider yourself lucky.

Robbnva · Post Post #642 (isolation #129) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:15 pm

In post 614, Robbnva wrote:Desp hasn't really scum hunted this game and is voting Danny for his reaction alone which is bad. He's literally done nothing else of value. You can only gauge reactions if you know a person well enough which I doubt he does.

So desp scum/chick scum seems right to me.
Wisdom is probably the 3rd party. Possible scum but definitely not town.

Another great post.

Like how the hell can anyone accuse me of slinging mud when I'm pointing to game related actions and now after he insults me he says he's going to ignore me?

And I'm the bad player?

At least I'm trying my best. At the end of the day I'll deal with it if I'm wrong but false accusations of mud slinging aren't going to fly here.

Robbnva · Post Post #645 (isolation #130) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:21 pm

In post 644, Almost50 wrote:
In post 614, Robbnva wrote:You can only gauge reactions if you know a person well enough
OK. Please tell the class how well you know me, since you've obviously been judging my reactions to your garbage.

I'm actually not able to gauge your alignment based on your reactions actually. You personally attacked me so my attack back at you is personal.

You pissed off the wrong person mother fucker.

Robbnva · Post Post #646 (isolation #131) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:22 pm

I will say your false statements about me slinging mud when clearly I didn't since my posts contained actual thought process and logic means you are probably scum.

I don't see how anyone can read my posts and say it's "mud slinging "

Robbnva · Post Post #648 (isolation #132) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:25 pm

That's alright dude. You fucked up and now I only have to tolerate you for day 2.

Robbnva · Post Post #656 (isolation #133) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:41 pm

In post 652, Almost50 wrote:
In post 634, Robbnva wrote:I don't rely on shitty meta. I can only judge him on his play this game
What game? You're not even playing THIS game.

I said please don't insult me. Saying I'm not playing this game when I clearly am and just requoted very good posts by me is an insult.

If you are actually town it's bad enough I'm going to waste my shot killing you instead of wisdom. Don't make me act like a 2 year old and whine to the mod. Let's treat each other with respect ok?

Robbnva · Post Post #657 (isolation #134) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:42 pm

In post 653, Wisdom wrote:
In post 618, Robbnva wrote:
In post 615, Wisdom wrote:and id poison gerry why?
I haven't been able to understand your motives all game. What make you think I'd be able to now?
Then you dont really scumread me

No I do. Scummy play is scummy play. I don't have to understand the motivation behind it to scum read it.

Robbnva · Post Post #665 (isolation #135) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:58 pm

In post 638, Robbnva wrote:You agreeing with it and also all your poison doc theories make no sense from a town pov.

Fixed my typo. Also reported a50 to the game mod

Robbnva · Post Post #669 (isolation #136) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:01 pm

In post 638, Robbnva wrote:So please I'm asking you nicely. Don't toss another insult my way again. Attack my posts, don't attack me. Don't call me a bad player when I haven't done anything bad except disagree with you and my reasons for disagreeing with you actually make sense.

I asked nice

I asked again a second time later.

PLEASE STOP!

Robbnva · Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:20 pm

In post 674, Almost50 wrote:
In post 656, Robbnva wrote:it's bad enough I'm going to waste my shot killing you instead of wisdom
GOD! You're WORST THAN I THOUGHT!

HEY, BEAVIS: I'm a ODD NIGHT COP. WISDOM WAS MY CHECK LAST NIGHT. HE IS FUCKING NOT MAFIA. In my VERY FIRST POST I SAID I WAS ODD. THEN SAID "
C
OME
O
N
P
EOPLE" IN BOLD. THEN IN MY SECOND POST I WAS RESPONDING TO CHICKA AND I SAID "I CAN'T EVEN" TO REASSERT I WAS ODD-NIGHT.

Now Chicka gave me the impression she got my crumb, and offered to work with me. Furthermore, if she did and I'm still alive then she is definitely TOWN.

I'd recommend you use your Vig shot on your own slot if ever applicable. You've been playing worse than Shaquille on free shots! Your reads are BAD, your attitude is BAD, you're so stubborn you can't even see you're BAD, and on top of it you take it personal when I say your PLAY is BAD. Like, are you sure you didn't switch the 4 and the zero when you entered your age?

I'll tell you what: You just SHUT UP FOR THE REST OF THIS GAME, and then when it's over we both blacklist each other. Spare me your junk talk and your skewed logic. Trying your best my "you know what". Seriously dude. Get a bloody grip or get lost.

Sorry I don't believe you.

Robbnva · Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:42 pm

In post 336, Almost50 wrote:In post 297, Wisdom wrote:
UNVOTE:

^Town^

No cop would investigate a town read btw. The quote looks bad but a50 is calling wisdom town in this post.

At best he should have investigated Danny. At worst a lurker/null player (this is actually the best usage of a cop ability)

So I didn't believe it already but I wanted to make sure it just wasn't personal, but this kind of confirms it for me.

Robbnva · Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:10 am

In post 409, Almost50 wrote:@Wisdom: Sometimes you do confuse me. You said to trust you (I'm paraphrasing) and I do, but some of your pushes and responses don't even make sense

And I don't think a cop would talk to his "clear" like this.

Robbnva · Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:40 am

@desp. I'll respond to you when I get to work

Robbnva · Post Post #717 (isolation #141) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:29 am

I'm confused. Was that at me? I don't think I said anything about you having to post in thread.

Robbnva · Post Post #720 (isolation #142) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:58 am

In post 719, Vaxkiller wrote:Lol did robb just quote his own post - say it was great - and act like quoting it made it more true?

A50 was implying I was just mud slinging. Mud slinging imo means basically throwing stuff out there without backing it up or supporting it with explanation.

There is no way he can say I was mud slinging. He can say I made some posts he didn't agree with and explain why he didn't agree with them but that's not what he did. He just blanket dismissed everything I've said and said I was mud slinging.

I don't see why a townie would do something like that. Scum would though.

Robbnva · Post Post #724 (isolation #143) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:22 am

In post 723, Vaxkiller wrote:I'm telling you there is not a 3rd party poisoner. When I flip you will see.

weren't you sure there was no day vig also?

Robbnva · Post Post #725 (isolation #144) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:30 am

I don't have an issue confirming his role. If people still think gerry is scum he can still be lynched. though i'd prefer A50 or wisdom but clearly neither of those are going to happen

Robbnva · Post Post #728 (isolation #145) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:55 am

yes but my ability hasn't activated yet.

Robbnva · Post Post #731 (isolation #146) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:22 am

In post 684, Desperado wrote:so your scum team is vax, almost, and wisdom?

I am suspicious of all 3, though I don't think they all make sense as a team together, but given I think we have 3P at play, they don't have to be team mates. I also don't really want to make associations until we get at least 1 scum flip.

In post 685, Desperado wrote:which posts specifically have i been doing this?

both of these votes kind of gave me that vibe. 373, 375

In post 686, Desperado wrote:are you suggesting that i can't evaluate a player's reaction to a given event unless i know them well enough?

That is exactly what I am saying. Just cause you think a reaction doesn't make sense to you, doesn't mean the reaction isn't genuine to somebody else. having been on the losing side of "oh his reaction was bad, he is probably scum" and wasn't, tells me that in general people lack the ability to accurately gauge reactions. This is sort of why I hate reaction tests.

If you don't know danny well enough, you don't know if his reaction makes him scum or town. Now I am not saying you can't think his reaction is scummy, You are certainly entitled to do that, but that isn't enough of a reason to lynch somebody.

If you want to lynch anyone, you need more than "he reacted bad"

In post 687, Desperado wrote:not BAD reaction, SCUMMY reaction

my apologies, but really in my mind, this is basically the same thing. Also scummy doesn't mean scum so again, you need more than just that to lynch him.

Personally, I don't think scum would put a bullseye on himself like he did. Putting an L-1 vote on somebody he knows is going to flip town is a bad move from scum. I don't really town read him for it, but I certainly don't think it is good enough to scum read him either.

Robbnva · Post Post #732 (isolation #147) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:38 am

so since danny is the largest wagon, can the people on it please explain why he is scum aside from his reaction to the vig claim.

Thank you

Robbnva · Post Post #734 (isolation #148) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:51 am

In post 730, Vaxkiller wrote:Explain to me how gerryoat is not town without saying "third party"

this question seems pointless because I am pretty sure we have a 3rd party at play, despite whatever you have in your role pm.

a mod isn't going to give setup information to anyone in their role pms.

Robbnva · Post Post #735 (isolation #149) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:52 am

if you want to argue he is town, make an argument that doesn't involve him being poisoned.

Robbnva · Post Post #736 (isolation #150) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:01 am

In post 691, gerryoat wrote:hm. ive never seen almost act like this. idk how to read it. but it does feel forced

who are you talking about here?

Robbnva · Post Post #738 (isolation #151) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:06 am

at lunch I will look at their ISOs

Robbnva · Post Post #739 (isolation #152) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:58 am

In post 474, iDanyboy wrote:I town-read Rob, Wisdom and Chick.

can you please explain why you town read us.

Also, who do you think the scum is that was on the venca wagon?

Thank you.

Robbnva · Post Post #745 (isolation #153) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:52 am

In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=94[post][/post]49833#p9449833]post 743[/url], Persivul wrote:
In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=9449833#p9449833]post 743[/url], Persivul wrote:
Cut the snark toward robb please. You guys are on short leashes. Thank you.

Not sure why I'm on a short leash. I've not done anything wrong except respond appropriately to his attack. I asked him to stop nicely multiple times and he refused. Since you issued a warning to both of us, I've not done anything wrong.

But if that's how you are going to play it, I'll deal with it the best I can.

You asked him nicely in 638, after calling him a bitch in 637. So, no, you're not an innocent victim.

Robbnva · Post Post #746 (isolation #154) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:00 am

I do just want to add that neither a50 or wisdom are confirmed anything except players in this game

Robbnva · Post Post #748 (isolation #155) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:29 am

Sure it's plausible. But his play doesn't make sense. His target choice doesn't make sense. Him treating his clear with a bad tone like he still sort of scum reads him doesn't make sense.

So unfortunately I don't believe his claim.

Robbnva · Post Post #750 (isolation #156) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:36 am

In post 749, Vaxkiller wrote:VOTE: Backhand

Why?

Robbnva · Post Post #755 (isolation #157) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:52 am

Ugh. Hate meta defenses.

Robbnva · Mon Jul 24, 2017 11:09 am

In post 761, Backhand wrote:Devil's advocate: If you were planning on fakeclaiming, you could fake crumb as well.

Agree with this. It's suicide for a legit Pr to crumb so obviously the way a50 did. Most PRs want to remain undetected. PRs shouldn't even crumb imo.

A50 is scum who planned to fake and hopefully gain some cheap town cred or town trying to draw a nk. If he's town scum clearly didn't see him as a threat.

Based on what I've seen, the first seems most likely

Robbnva · Mon Jul 24, 2017 11:55 am

Oh it's real. It's just not activated yet.

I also said I'm 90% sure the claim itself is legit so to say I'm trying to make people doubt it is clearly false.

I'm not sure if it's town or scum though.

Robbnva · Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:36 pm

I did do some digging and I did see a game where a50 said he likes to crumb as town to draw a nk but I just don't see his actions or reactions this game matching a townie trying to draw a kill.

Haven't found a game yet where he crumbed as a pr or as scum but it's hard to do on my phone.

Robbnva · Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:51 pm

I'm day but I can't use it until after day 2 lynch. So twilight day 2 and beyond as long as the thread is opened. My plan is using it twilight day 2 if I'm around.

I won't be shooting Blackhand.

Robbnva · Post Post #789 (isolation #162) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:35 pm

In post 780, Backhand wrote:
In post 771, Robbnva wrote:I'm day but I can't use it until after day 2 lynch. So twilight day 2 and beyond as long as the thread is opened. My plan is using it twilight day 2 if I'm around.

I won't be shooting Blackhand.
Robb if ever you are possessed to shoot me, please let me claim first.

And seriously: Dany's concern over who the poisoner is as opposed to who the Mafia are is a massive scum tell why can you all not see this?

My decision has been made already. You are safe.

Robbnva · Post Post #791 (isolation #163) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:41 pm

Vax is wrong. He said based on his role pm he didn't think there is a day vig.

I am a day vig (not joat)

Vax's issue is just reading into flavor and thinking that it means something. Clearly it doesn't.

Mod isn't going to reveal setup info in a role pm flavor.

Robbnva · Mon Jul 24, 2017 11:25 pm

I don't think Gerry had done anything to warrant blacklisting him. What an overreaction.

Don't worry Gerry I am legit shooting a50

Robbnva · Mon Jul 24, 2017 11:39 pm

Can somebody explain the back wagon.

Robbnva · Mon Jul 24, 2017 11:58 pm

In post 800, Chickadee wrote:You were a bit aggressive with Robb.

A bit? He was completely off the charts. Instead of responding calmly to the posts I made which explained my thoughts he blew up.

Robbnva · Tue Jul 25, 2017 12:04 am

Ok whoever is town in this list of people (wisdom, desp, chick, edo) can y'all please step up your game.

I'm not seeing nearly enough words explaining your reads. You all come across flat to me.

The people voting Danny for his "reaction", sorry that isn't good enough. Why else is he scum. Also who else are you scum reading and why.

I explained my scum reads earlier. Now it's your turn. @wisdom. If you are town drop this schtick you are doing. Time to use your words.

Robbnva · Tue Jul 25, 2017 12:28 am

Sorry I won't be mentioning the earlier incidents anymore. I also will just avoid interaction with him.

Robbnva · Post Post #822 (isolation #169) » Tue Jul 25, 2017 3:12 am

the lowest activity people are danny and edo.

Robbnva · Post Post #825 (isolation #170) » Tue Jul 25, 2017 3:17 am

I don't even know what I am allowed to say anymore with regards to A50 at this point.

I will say I just disagree with both of those statements.

Robbnva · Post Post #827 (isolation #171) » Tue Jul 25, 2017 3:20 am

In post 824, Wisdom wrote:
In post 816, Robbnva wrote:@wisdom. If you are town drop this schtick you are doing. Time to use your words.
what makes you think ill change how i play because you dont like it

Ive said who is scum, ive said why

idk, hopeful you would actually show you are a decent player who cares about working together with the rest of town. Your current play isn't helpful and makes you not trustworthy

Robbnva · Post Post #828 (isolation #172) » Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:30 am

In post 824, Wisdom wrote:Ive said who is scum, ive said why

Going through your posts, this is basically what I see.

desp - you said something about him WKing
Edos - no reason given
gerry - he's trying to get town cred for being poisoned and town gerry doesn't care about that.

those unfortunately aren't good enough reasons.

So if you could please provide me with something better for these people I would really appreciate it. If you don't want to fine, but don't expect me to listen to what you have to say about anything game related.

Robbnva · Post Post #840 (isolation #173) » Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:52 am

yes they should. sorry you replaced into a scum slot

Robbnva · Post Post #859 (isolation #174) » Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:19 am

I still don't see why scum would put a bullseye on their back like that. Most scum go for town cred by trying to prevent the lynch. I don't know Danny obviously but he seems to middle of the road this game to go and do something ballsy like that.

Robbnva · Post Post #877 (isolation #175) » Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:28 am

In post 860, Desperado wrote:there's nothing ballsy about sliding back onto a lynch wagon that got pretty feverish and anti-logic...

It is though cause it's going to put suspicion on him

Robbnva · Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:54 am

In post 882, Desperado wrote:
In post 877, Robbnva wrote:It is though cause it's going to put suspicion on him
he says, as he argues against his lynch...

scum need to lynch town to win. he saw an opportunity based on another player's bad play that, despite multiple players arguing against his lynch, still ended up with him dead.

Vecna (7) - Vaxkiller, Chickadee, Backhand, Robbnva, iDanyBoy, Lil Uzi Vert, gerryoat
LYNCH

who are your scum here if it isn't danny, robb?

One of, if not both of Chick/vax

Robbnva · Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:55 am

In post 890, Vedith wrote:Yeah but he's proven town. You're not.

That's so stupid.

Robbnva · Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:56 am

In post 892, Vedith wrote:Desperado might be Scum.

Yeah bus him.

Robbnva · Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:57 am

In post 898, Desperado wrote:
In post 886, iDanyboy wrote:So did these 3, Why am I scum more than them?

are you even reading? lol

i think gerry is scum too and luv is dead

If luv wasn't dead you'd probably suspect him too.

Your logic is bad. Not bad townie. Bad scum trying to attack easy targets.

Robbnva · Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:58 am

In post 906, mozamis wrote:@ Almost - lay off Rob. He's obv town.

He's gone. But he didn't change anything by strategically replacing out

Robbnva · Tue Jul 25, 2017 12:31 pm

In post 930, Desperado wrote:
In post 928, Robbnva wrote:If luv wasn't dead you'd probably suspect him too.

Your logic is bad. Not bad townie. Bad scum trying to attack easy targets.
if you're just gonna throw out purely speculative bullshit then i don't really see the point. what i would or would not have done w/r/t luv today is irrelevant.

You name 3 people. Scum read 2 but not the third because he flipped town. It's speculative sure, but given your top scum suspects it's probably close to the truth.

So take your fake outrage somewhere else.

Robbnva · Tue Jul 25, 2017 12:40 pm

And if you disagree and think you've done nothing wrong. Move on. Not worth fighting about. I scum read you and you think I'm wrong

Since I'm killing vedith

VOTE: desp

Robbnva · Post Post #936 (isolation #183) » Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:03 pm

It's showing how bad your reason for thinking he is scum is.

Robbnva · Post Post #938 (isolation #184) » Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:18 pm

If you say so

Robbnva · Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:33 am

In post 946, Wisdom wrote:
In post 904, mozamis wrote:Danny, Wisdom, Edos, Despo...there's scum here.
what am i doing in here? You know theres an inno on me, right?

Assuming the claim is legit which I don't believe

Robbnva · Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:36 am

In post 950, Wisdom wrote:
In post 932, Robbnva wrote:Since I'm killing vedith
also reiterating this is ridiculously stupid

Why? He's my top scum read next to you.

Like why would he claim like that when he didn't need to? Real cop would have just kept his head down. Real cop wouldn't have done some over the top elaborate bread crumb of his role.

He is either scum or townie who faked a claim/inno.

Robbnva · Post Post #955 (isolation #187) » Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:40 am

Ok as much as I want to shoot vedith for a50's bad play, part of me worries that he may cop, though I can't possibly see how his play was remotely town.

So one of desp/edo/chick will get it I guess.

Robbnva · Post Post #959 (isolation #188) » Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:40 am

In post 957, Wisdom wrote:
In post 953, Robbnva wrote:Like why would he claim like that when he didn't need to?
Because people dont play like you want them to
Stop assuming theyll play to your standards

They should play to my standards. This game would be easy as fuck if town played like it. But people like you assuming you are town want to play scummy.

Robbnva · Post Post #960 (isolation #189) » Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:49 am

In post 958, Wisdom wrote:Shoot gerry. Fix vax's mistake.

Or desp, or edos. Those are fine too.

Gerry's hammer was bad. But what else makes him scum? Unfortunately I've seen town hammer like that

Robbnva · Post Post #962 (isolation #190) » Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:58 am

I could do gerry I guess

Robbnva · Post Post #989 (isolation #191) » Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:53 am

Back isn't obv town

Robbnva · Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:33 am

Let's not hammer before we decide who I kill also. Also should I wait to use it?

Robbnva · Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:34 am

My fear is since vedith is odd night they can kill me tonight and leave him until night 3

Another day

Robbnva · Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:50 am

In post 1007, Vedith wrote:Wait is Robb not night vig?

Why haven't you been reading up ?

Robbnva · Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:54 am

Robbnva · Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:17 am

In post 1011, Vedith wrote:I was actually going to check but you have almost 200 posts and I'm on phone so no cntl f. What's your claim?

Day vig.

Robbnva · Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:20 am

Robbnva · Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:21 am

That no was to your first question

Robbnva · Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:25 am

In post 1056, Vedith wrote:I say we Lynch Backhand!

Why