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it's so unlikely to come from scum. sure, really clever/confident/gambity scum might try it, but it's really stickin gyour neck out early on, which MOST scum avoid. Plus in this specific case, he seems like he is thinking about the game, "game solving" etcIn post 24, Raya36 wrote:@Moz What about suggesting a mass claim makes you think Radrat is town?
All town stuff.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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that was my instinct too, butin this case does it matter? they now know i am priority four, but i cant see how that helps them too much, if at all.In post 26, Chickadee wrote:Yea, I'm against this. Scum can pick off higher priorities. It just gives them more information.
whatever, its probably no biggee either way.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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and rayaIn post 30, mozamis wrote:chick and realeo prob town. both quick to respond, seem honest.
four town, nine to go!You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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"jumped" is a scummy, misreppy way of putting it. I in fact i had qualms, as is quite obvious if you look back over it.In post 45, Keychain wrote:I'm not going to claim my priority just yet. I'd rather hash it out first.
The way mozamis jumped to claim before Rat had explained in full was suspicious
I'm not going to claim my priority just yet. I'd rather hash it out first. The way mozamis jumped to claim before Rat had explained in full was suspicious
fos keychainYou've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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again, i dont like this, it looks like "shade".In post 45, Keychain wrote:This is a really odd middle ground to take. W
The guy clearly wasnt quite sure what to do, which seems reasonable in a CONFUSING AS HELL game like this lol
Yeah, Keychain can get a vote
VOTE KEYCHAINYou've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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1) IT IS. It's not blending in. And it's so gamesolvy, he is putting ideas outthere, interested in the game. He's a helluva scum player if he is scum, but not many people are.In post 57, Formerfish wrote:I'm not saying realeo is scum, just that it's not something to town read him for.
2) And man, if he wasnt town before, his whole convo with chickadee screamed town.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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er she didnt i'm still voting you.In post 122, Keychain wrote:Why did Chick going "she's new and plays like this" make you give up pressuring me?
i think?You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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agree.In post 131, Chickadee wrote:We're not claiming D1.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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good call. set up spec is great for scum as well, classic "looks like doing stuff but isnt".In post 98, Chickadee wrote:And lets stop with the setup spec,You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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quick overview/captain obvious.
Less than 10 posts. = Formerfish, Nos, Allomancer, Raya, Havingfitz, keychain, Mollignir.
I'm town readin Raya. Fitz's posts have been chunky (altho lot of spec/logic stuff, but give him a pass for now).
So decent chance of scum in Former, Nos, Allo, keychain, mollignir.
Quite like Keychain's "fuckoff moz, i'm town" approach, quite often a town response.
So scum in Former, Nos, Allo, Mollignir?
(obviously flaw here is that some of these will be town lurkers, but i'd bet anyhting there is one scum in that four)
@ Aubrey - easy tiger, i hadnt fully caught up.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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and i think this was slightly scummy. she obviously had discussed it ALOT ,and was saying ,aybe time to move on. Your language is "shady".In post 107, Mjollnir wrote:If this is the case then why would you want to stifle such discussion?
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So to tidy it all up a bit, my reads:
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Moz, Chick, Radical, rayo, Realo,
Scum in: Former, Nos, Allo, Mollig,
Neutral: IAI,Fitz,Aubrey,KeychainYou've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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it's just the current site jargon for "casting vague aspersions", scummy behaviour, at least that's how i read it.In post 164, Keychain wrote:What is this "shade" thing? Why is it always in quote marks? I didn't get it when you accused me of it, and I don't really get it now.
Bob: "Hey guys, I think Moz looks a bit funny, his eyes are too close together!"
Tom: "Stop throwing shade, Bob."You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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already gave them page 1 (?) when i formed my townbloc when people started discussing "the plan".In post 207, I Am Innocent wrote:Reasons please.
so what r your reads IAI?You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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Not all scum try and blend in. Most do though. Particularly at the beginning of the game. I just cant see the percentages of Rat being scum and opening with that gambit (note, we are still talking about him, which is not what scum want).In post 213, Formerfish wrote:LOL if you think that all scum just blend in
Of course good scum players-like IAI-will try some extreme gambits (i was in agme with himonce where i think he fake claimed doc or something and town followed him over the cliff). But:
1) Most players arent that good, so there's just the PROBABILITY that it's unlikely that the guy is scum.
2)EVen if he is good scum, iit's still unlikely that you OPEN the game with a gambit. May as well just shine a massive spotlight on your self.
As to my train of thought, i think it's pretty transparent. I changed my mind WOOOOOOOOOO.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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updated:In post 157, mozamis wrote:So to tidy it all up a bit, my reads:
(not in order, very provisional)
Moz, Chick, Radical, rayo, Realo,
Scum in: Former, Nos, Allo, Mollig,
Neutral: IAI,Fitz,Aubrey,Keychain
Town: Moz, Chick, Radical, Rayo, Realo, Aubrey.
Scum most likely in: IAI, Former, Allo, Nos, Moolig.
Neutral: Fitz, Keychain.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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my meta on NOs is that i think he tries a bit more as town.In post 221, Aubrey wrote:Can't tell if Nosferatu is just townie who doesn't care to put effort forward, or scum trying to slide through the beginning of the game.
not a lot though, which is why i havent auto voted him.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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he came up with the mass claim idea, which seemed really town. (doesnt matter whether eit was a good idea or not, it shows he is game solving, transparent, not trying to blend in, etc etc)In post 252, Realeo wrote:RadicalRat is townread.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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that question to Aubrey is lol bullshit i think.
Aubrey is voting Nos, which you are aware of. So of course she wants him lynched.
Looks like scum just making stuff up to post.
I dont know about Nos. His response to me asking for his reads was very aggressive and over the top. Not sure if he is paranoid scum or emotional town.
But Molligner is very likely scum i think.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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if you check my iso i gave an updated list yesterday i think. When i called out a scum team of formerfish, IAI and you ( i think, i havent checked it).In post 271, Mjollnir wrote:
OK, those are initial reads, do you have any advance on those feelings based on what has happened since? I wouldn't say responding quickly to posts in RVS/the very early stages of a game is a solid premise to townlock players on.In post 208, mozamis wrote:
already gave them page 1 (?) when i formed my townbloc when people started discussing "the plan".In post 207, I Am Innocent wrote:Reasons please.
so what r your reads IAI?
My point was precisely that those peole that were quickly absorbed into discussing Rats plan looked quite town to em. Of course i could be worng. Just throwing out gut early reads as i always do.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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i'm always up for punishing the lurkers, especially ealr yon. Always a decent chanc eof hitting scum.In post 272, Mjollnir wrote:it looks a little like you are simply going after easy targets and saying they are lurking instead of actually trying to build cases on people.
I moved IAI cos his questions to Chick sounded like BS.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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UpdatedIn post 218, mozamis wrote:Town: Moz, Chick, Radical, Rayo, Realo, Aubrey, Mollignir
Scum most likely in: IAI, Former, Allo, Nos,.
Neutral: Fitz, Keychain.
Town: Moz, Radical, Rayo, Realo, aubrey, Mollig
Scum? IAI, Former, Allo, Nos
Neutral: Chick, Fitz, Keychain
Chick gets demoted for her last post which was so vague.
Molligner gets promoted for his " dog with a bone" approach.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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apart from Chick (see my above post), yes i townread them. Its not they were just on line at the time. If so, it might have been the usual fluff posting rvs stuff. But they werent fluff posting. Rat came roaring out of the gate with an idea to solve the game, and alot of players got into it.In post 287, Mjollnir wrote:are they still townread by you based on this one bit of evidence early on? Has nothing they have done since been comment-worthy? Some of them have been noted by you, others have not.
They just seemed town.
I dont comment on evryting people say.
I suspect you do. that's different personality types. I like the genralities, you like specifics. Whatevr.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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p.o.e suggests that scum team is in: IAI,ALLO, Former, Chick, Fitz, keychain.
gut is telling me fitz prob town , but he hasn't ruled himself out yetYou've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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1) why would i do any of that as scum? cant see why i would change my mind like that. Not much had changed in the game to make a 180 on you worthwhile.
2) why is it scummy anyway?
3) and why not just call me scum instead of "interesting progression". THAT's shade.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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reads wise, i have given out the most. They may not be right, but I've made a lot of effort.In post 309, Chickadee wrote:Your reads look super lazy.
And if i'm "lazy" why did i bother to change my read on you?You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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It's all in my ISo, Rat. I've nothing to hide. She made that really vague, waffly post about being busy.In post 312, Radical Rat wrote:So why'd ya do it then?You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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I said it's not worth 180ing as scum.In post 317, Radical Rat wrote:My point is, you say it's not worth 180ing, and yet... you 180'd.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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I AM GIVING OUT READS. AND CHANGING MY OPINIONS AS TEH AFCTS CHANGE. YOU MAKE A SCUMMY POST, I CHANGE MY MIND.In post 319, Chickadee wrote:Moza has flipped his opinions around completely multiple times in short time spans with no explanations.
I have probably been the most transparent person in this game.
You are either being very dense, or you are scum. What happend to you being really busy at the weekend? And your other reads?You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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In post 324, Radical Rat wrote:And what makes it worth 180ing as Town then?
Becuase my opinion changed, and I'm trying to find scum? Surely you change your mind as the facts change?
Dont really see the problem here.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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lol i havent said you are scum. paranoid much?In post 335, Chickadee wrote:you're literally scum reading me for being h
And i merel ypointed out that you did say you were busy at the weekends, but as soon as i put you in my possible scum pile, you got all busy.
Main reason i think you probably are scum is that super vague post you gave about being busy. And P.O.E, which is probably the most powerful tool in the game. You just arent very town.
Also, people should note that while i am trying to figure out who is scum, Thickadee has just entered survival mode "shit, must attack moz, must attack moz" No other comments on the game state.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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Although maybe you are just thick. A lot of people are. Not Nos though! He knows how to be pleonastic, always a sign of an...average mind. Keep up the googling, Nos!You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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so your reads are formerfish?
quick breakdown, gut reads. So far you've provided a lot of info w/out analysis.
And as for Chick, I'm gonna bung in neutral. She's a pain in the arse, but pain- in- the- arses are so often town. However, i@ve played with her before, and she's good at scum, so she IS capable of this level of involvement.
Likwise wih Nos, rhough gut is tellling me he is town OMGUSing mw. I'm not entirely sure wqhy he doesnt like me, but he votes me inevery game we play. I think it's because i dared to tell him to post more when we were scum together once. My guess is his ego couldmnt handle that, and I'm now on hs blacklist lol
Whatver. He's still prob town tho. If we need an end dfay lurker lynch though, he could be a candidate, since he's a borderline troll.
IAI looks quite good, but he always does, so fuck knows.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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i'm sure i criticised you for something in the Mafia PT, thats why you dont like me? May have got that wrong. I'm trying to understand why you vote me every game we're in. Onbv you might be scum, but i think you're town OMGUSing. Ah, maybe cos i called you scum early this game?You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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