Idk why but the hello everyone triggers me as maf.
Hi, town.
VOTE: UNOwen
Idk why but the hello everyone triggers me as maf.
^ scum traitor Owen ^
^This Owen^
I'll take that for a no.In post 26, UNOwen wrote:UNVOTE: LowellIn post 22, Vivax wrote:Does Owen TR me too for that snap reaction?
VOTE: Vivax
Pocket accepted.In post 40, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:Me reading too much into this post: This post seems to be coming from a town player.In post 33, Vivax wrote:Can't read too much into things yet.
FancyPants only posted once.
MegAzumaril has a point. Second line of my post could imply a joke. Post was explained as gut-based already though.
Greeting calls Enchant's second post their entry post.
Patersons objection seems like the kind of entry point I'd make as scum when seeing a town accusing another town while making an easy to spot mistake.
I don't disagree with her having a point to be annoyed.In post 64, Crescent wrote:Andante seems annoyed, not scummy.In post 62, Vivax wrote:If I never respond you remain stuck in limbo?
Andante a tad too emotional about the VC, but meh.
This one's got a point but doesn't do much with it. Maybe worth keeping in mind for the time after an Andante flip.In post 54, MalcolmTucker wrote:This feels like something scum could easily feign annoyance over for the sake of an early vote to look busy.In post 52, Andante wrote:can we not post a VC for every single vote please... if you do it, please just throw it in a spoiler, but spamming "unnoficial" VCs for every single vote is not appreciated... you literally posted 3 on 1 page... and no one changed votes in the span of you posting them
VOTE: Fredrick A Campbell
I don't believe you and will call you town for bad reasons.In post 99, Firebringer wrote:I am scum don’t u dare call me town u dirty….w/e u are
That's all you're still working with?In post 106, UNOwen wrote:It's the idea that you didn't know the reason for your vote until Crescent pointed it out that I don't believe.In post 28, Vivax wrote: Why do you not believe that I had a good reason to find your entrance worth a vote? The last game we played in together you used the same and I didn't know if it was a standard opener of yours.
Good, the unfunny gnats are mostly town.
Why does it seem more likely? I would have mentioned that as a reason if I was aware.In post 119, UNOwen wrote:Sure that's possible but it seems more likely that if you noticed my first post it would be because you also noticed that it was the same as our previous game.In post 108, Vivax wrote: To me it seems like a natural way of thinking:
See thing that somehow pings you for pure gut reasons. Get pointed out that the one who pinged you did the same opener as mafia in the previous game. Conclude that maybe that's why it pinged me because of the latent memory.
Tell me what his post looks like to you and I’ll answer.In post 122, UNOwen wrote:What does this mean?In post 103, Vivax wrote: Geraint's post within the scope of thinking that no one already tried what he did.
The point is that I did.In post 126, UNOwen wrote:Because the alternative is you got spooked by "hello everyone".In post 123, Vivax wrote: Why does it seem more likely?
Suspicious attempt at saying "don't expect much from me".In post 124, Vivax wrote: Tell me what his post looks like to you and I’ll answer.
You’d have a life expectancy of maybe 24 h on my community with how badly you play and get away with it.In post 134, UNOwen wrote:That's not much of an answer Vivax.
It's an information avenue for a future point to look back to in case you flip mafia. Not relevant right now except as a diary for my thoughts, need folks who signed up to try and find mafia.In post 139, Andante wrote:ok, why are you talking as if I'm flipped scum? these few posts just read weird to me? it's just like, I don't even get it "we need andante flip first" "maf!anante" like what??In post 104, Vivax wrote:I don't believe you and will call you town for bad reasons.In post 99, Firebringer wrote:I am scum don’t u dare call me town u dirty….w/e u are
If MalcolmTucker is mafia and pinged m!Andante then #69 explains the additional annoyance in the tone from her part.
Let's say it's a possible timeline.
No, Owen didn’t post an opinion on geraintms entrance. Feel free to prove me wrong.In post 143, Prince of Paterson wrote:Are you interpreting their post as withholding information? It looks to me like they answered both of your questions. I'm not sure what your complaint is here.In post 127, Vivax wrote:The point is that I did.In post 126, UNOwen wrote:Because the alternative is you got spooked by "hello everyone".In post 123, Vivax wrote: Why does it seem more likely?
Suspicious attempt at saying "don't expect much from me".In post 124, Vivax wrote: Tell me what his post looks like to you and I’ll answer.
Fine, have it your way if you want to withhold information.
VOTE: UNOwen
Okay, what‘s his opinion on geraints entrance in your own words?In post 146, Prince of Paterson wrote:Are you sure about that? His response there seems to fit as an opinion on geraintm's entrance. It seems like you interpreted it as a characterization of your own post, but I don't think there's really any reason to believe that's more likely than him simply answering your question.In post 145, Vivax wrote:No, Owen didn’t post an opinion on geraintms entrance. Feel free to prove me wrong.
UNOwens ISO looks like I‘m the only other player in this game.In post 148, Prince of Paterson wrote:Seems that he believes geraintm was making pre-emptive excuses for his own play being lacking (game is larger, set-up is weird, implying he won't be able to keep track of what is going on) and UNOwen thought that was suspicious.In post 147, Vivax wrote:Okay, what‘s his opinion on geraints entrance in your own words?
Everything you said is provably false.In post 152, Prince of Paterson wrote:And how do you think you look? You ask him a question on another player. He gives you a reasonable answer. You misinterpret it and take it to be about you. Then, even after having the misinterpretation pointed out to you, you insist that he must have been refusing to answer you and that his answer was actually talking about you when it's a stretch to even believe that the comment could apply to you.In post 151, Vivax wrote:UNOwens ISO looks like I‘m the only other player in this game.In post 148, Prince of Paterson wrote:Seems that he believes geraintm was making pre-emptive excuses for his own play being lacking (game is larger, set-up is weird, implying he won't be able to keep track of what is going on) and UNOwen thought that was suspicious.In post 147, Vivax wrote:Okay, what‘s his opinion on geraints entrance in your own words?
He‘d show interest into getting more out of gera if what you said was true.
I‘m not proud to the point where I refuse to cooperate with TRs and settle down for an elim I don‘t prefer.In post 154, Prince of Paterson wrote:Does anyone else agree with Vivax's interpretation? This is a strange hill for him to choose to die on. I think it's a little towny to do so, though. Town often have a lot of pride in their own view of things.
That‘s the thing. I can‘t tell if he‘s an antagonist who goes on a personal tunnel as town because he‘s enraged for having been caught recently or if he‘s just mafia.In post 156, MegAzumarill wrote:This doesn't feel like a scum push from Vivax, but I don't quite get it.
Vivax can you resummarize why you think Unowen is scum
Are you Owen? If you spent half the time trying to find a better launch rather than shielding him from having to answer, you‘d have a better chance of steering the game away feom the toüic.In post 160, Crescent wrote:Again, Owen was not "caught". He made a blatant scumhammer as mafia-aligned and was probably planning to drag out day 2 to slow down the town. Once he flips aligned, you don't even get a lotta information about it. His plan obviously didn't include being vigged.
Owen knew exactly what he was doing with that hammer. This argument that he'd be "enraged" is dumb.
Nr. 2. Gonna need a lot of collateral damage this game, and the recoil might kill me in the process.
I'm ready to explain what I thought of gera's entrance whenever Owen is ready to answer what he thinks of it since he deemed it relevant to ask me about.In post 198, Andante wrote:ehhh it's seeming like it's just how Vivax is, I'm not willing to write Vivax off as town for it, at least not yet, like, it's only 100 posts of a game, and he thinks there's some meaning to gerain's entrance?? I don't even understand what he was arguing nor do I actually care at this pointIn post 154, Prince of Paterson wrote:Does anyone else agree with Vivax's interpretation? This is a strange hill for him to choose to die on. I think it's a little towny to do so, though. Town often have a lot of pride in their own view of things.
At the duel I'll shoot you with not_mafia comparisons then.In post 213, bugspray wrote:i personally despise n_m, do not dare compare me to that buffoonIn post 208, Vivax wrote:This (bugspray) reeks heavily of a not_mafia alt.
In post 216, Prince of Paterson wrote:Right now, I think that the series of four posts starting with 188 are the most likely thing to come from scum that I've seen so far. Fredrick A Campbell inserts himself into the main conflict of the game, Vivax vs UNOwen, and tries to add fuel to the fire of one of the sides. The fact that I believe the criticism is inaccurate (UNOwen was referring to post 138, which Fredrick himself has ignored) makes me think it's even more likely that it was a made up reason to join what looks to me like a T/T conflict and encourage it to continue.
VOTE: Fredrick A Campbell
In post 217, Crescent wrote:So much of Fred's ISO is nonsense. Virtually none of it is actual content and he follows a naked vote on Owen with... Some really awkward looking shade. Third highest post count in the game right now and all I can really say about him is "he exists".
In post 219, UNOwen wrote:Fred could easily be scum, his commentary so far has been pretty shallow and doesn't suggest he's actually given things much thought (see also 179 which asks Lowell a question pretty obviously answered in context).
These 4 people posted the same agenda in batch at around the same time.In post 220, Andante wrote:exactly why I just want to lim the slotIn post 217, Crescent wrote:So much of Fred's ISO is nonsense.
That's not a counterpoint.In post 232, Crescent wrote:The counterpoint is if Fred is scum it likely means Prince (who voted him), Owen (who he made an awful vote/shade on), and Andante (who he triggered) are all likely town. Owen and Andante would have a natural reason to join in based on the actions Fred has already committed. Andante is mad he exists, and Owen could easily be town who was scumpinged by such a bad argument. The reasoning that scum must be shading Fred is forced and the reasons for voting Andante are weak.
I don't believe you when you say you don't have a read on Andante.In post 234, Crescent wrote:That's if he flips town. Right now I don't think he will.
The argument is forcing the presupposition that scum must be shading him, when I'm the only one in that 4 pack without a previously established reason to have done so.
Sometimes it's just 4 town members shading a scum. I see no reason to automatically assume there is scum based on the specific people involved.
I understand your annoyance now. But being scum or Fred's posts are maybe only 25% of it, because mostly you're annoyed at how you have to play.In post 240, Andante wrote:So if I vote people cause I find what they're doing highly annoying. that automatically makes me scum? I'm not SRing whoever. I'm saying Fred isn't doing ANYTHING game related and talking in this matter of fact tone, it's annoying as heck, yet I guess all yall are totally fine with fred??
Wrong, you could join the push on Owen, Prince or Crescent, though I haven't called the latter mafia.In post 248, Andante wrote:YOU GUYS AREN'T GIVING ME THE OPTION TO ACTUALLY PLAY THIS FREAKING GAMEIn post 246, Vivax wrote:Like, your only scumread all game is because someone posted a votecount three times at the bottom of a page and you have no intention of putting in work to move away from that opinion.
There's a ton of scummy people but what we got instead.In post 262, Andante wrote:So because I'm the only one actually doing crap, and calling stuff as it is, that means we have to "pressure" me??? what kind of logic is this? why not actually try and engage in a freaking conversation with me instead of "WEAK PUSH. ANDANTE MAF" whateverIn post 261, MalcolmTucker wrote:Do you expect to go through an entire game without any pressure being put on you at all? You're evading my question.In post 259, Andante wrote:have I ever had a good reaction to pressure?In post 257, MalcolmTucker wrote:Nobody is doing this, do you expect to be immune from pressure?In post 249, Andante wrote:I fully intend to come up with actual reads as the game goes on, but here all yall are like "DEATH TO ANDANTE!!! HOW DARE SHE BE ANNOYED" I literally told yall I was voting fred out of annoyance
It's D1, this is an early read, more than happy to move elsewhere if someone else strikes me as more scummy down the line.
PinheadIn post 263, geraintm wrote:im voting fred, do i not get a read too?In post 232, Crescent wrote:The counterpoint is if Fred is scum it likely means Prince (who voted him), Owen (who he made an awful vote/shade on), and Andante (who he triggered) are all likely town. Owen and Andante would have a natural reason to join in based on the actions Fred has already committed. Andante is mad he exists, and Owen could easily be town who was scumpinged by such a bad argument. The reasoning that scum must be shading Fred is forced and the reasons for voting Andante are weak.
Thanks, gut. What are Owen, Prince and geraintm?In post 266, Crescent wrote:They were specifically pointing at the 4 people in that cluster, and you weren't in that cluster. Gonna be honest, I kinda totally forgot about you. I wouldn't say you've done anything to ping me in any specific way yet. Your vote's probably in a good place though.In post 263, geraintm wrote:im voting fred, do i not get a read too?In post 232, Crescent wrote:The counterpoint is if Fred is scum it likely means Prince (who voted him), Owen (who he made an awful vote/shade on), and Andante (who he triggered) are all likely town. Owen and Andante would have a natural reason to join in based on the actions Fred has already committed. Andante is mad he exists, and Owen could easily be town who was scumpinged by such a bad argument. The reasoning that scum must be shading Fred is forced and the reasons for voting Andante are weak.
Anyways, watching Andante emotionally implode as she's pressured for awful reasons feels like I'm looking in a mirror to when I'm under consistent pressure for awful reasons. It's like a "So this is what it looks like when I get emotional in a mafia game" moment.
Gut says she's a VT.
Quoting GLaDOS, someone I truly look up to:In post 259, Andante wrote:have I ever had a good reaction to pressure?In post 257, MalcolmTucker wrote:Nobody is doing this, do you expect to be immune from pressure?In post 249, Andante wrote:I fully intend to come up with actual reads as the game goes on, but here all yall are like "DEATH TO ANDANTE!!! HOW DARE SHE BE ANNOYED" I literally told yall I was voting fred out of annoyance
The point of the game is to find people who play like a team and elim them.In post 268, Crescent wrote:Prince is probably town regardless of Fred's alignment.
Owen and Gera are probably town if Fred is scum. My intel so far on Gera is he doesn't bus, though his ISO is... Super lacking. I'd look at Gera if Fred is town, though. Owen is on pace to do way more here than he did in 2273.
I'm seeing so much of myself in her and the way you especially are treating her right now that I'm being psychologically triggered by it.
No, but what they did went against the grain.In post 280, Enchant wrote:But people who townread you is not necessary town bruhIn post 278, Vivax wrote:There's two wagons not on Andante and they're both on people who townread me and tried to work with me.
..........and you can still think someone is mafia while they're agreeing with you on something the herd chose to run with. Except in this game.In post 283, Enchant wrote:But town is majority.................................................................................In post 281, Vivax wrote:No, but what they did went against the grain.In post 280, Enchant wrote:But people who townread you is not necessary town bruhIn post 278, Vivax wrote:There's two wagons not on Andante and they're both on people who townread me and tried to work with me.
This town doesn‘t play mafia, it just kills people who disagree with the majority. If that‘s your pastime while being here, then you can fill in the blanks on your own.
Mafia post. Who's up for a flashwagon? Crystal orb says:In post 301, FancyPants wrote:Apologize for my absence. I had a very rough weekend, catching up in the next couple hours.
And you‘re asking me about not_mafia in a game he‘s not in, which implies you know something that I don‘t.In post 309, Greeting wrote:But… it’s irrelevant whether you’ve played this game for long or short on other sites. The point I was making regarded your familiarity with this site, and specifically Not_Mafia, which isn’t something I expected from someone who has been here for so short.In post 303, Vivax wrote:@Greeting
I don't use alts and I played this game for a very long time elsewhere with extraordinarily active players.