NY 174: Oldy Mafia 2 (Game Over)

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #9 (isolation #0) » Wed May 14, 2014 7:31 am

VOTE: Green Crayons because it's been so long and I've already found scum in LML.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #10 (isolation #1) » Wed May 14, 2014 7:32 am

VOTE: LoudmouthLee

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #40 (isolation #2) » Wed May 14, 2014 1:36 pm

chamber is town.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #118 (isolation #3) » Fri May 16, 2014 8:45 am

MafiaSSK is town.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #164 (isolation #4) » Sat May 17, 2014 1:15 am

Glork, CTD, Dragons are town.

I agree with CTD's point about chamber despite my earlier chamber town read, which was based on chamber sounding especially chipper. chamber might still be town. Will keep eye on situation.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #165 (isolation #5) » Sat May 17, 2014 1:25 am

I'll go a step further. CTD is on the NERVERLYNCH list. He's that town.

Porochaz is scum.

So far, scum is Porochaz & LML with a hint of pj who seems to be trying to frame players rather than scum hunt, and chamber because you know what? Maybe he's just a little TOO chipper.

I'll have more on Monday when I'm back from VLA.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #266 (isolation #6) » Mon May 19, 2014 10:12 am

In post 248, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Unvote, vote Petroleumjelly

"May switch my vote soon" is scummy.

True, that.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #275 (isolation #7) » Mon May 19, 2014 12:30 pm

Yosarian is town.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #310 (isolation #8) » Tue May 20, 2014 5:55 am

ABR is town.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #322 (isolation #9) » Tue May 20, 2014 11:02 am

In post 316, VitaminR wrote:@DGB: A lot of your posts are just you calling people town at this point. Can we hear something about who you suspect?

66% of scum hunting is town hunting.

Don't worry I'll get a bee in my bonnet soon enough.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #323 (isolation #10) » Tue May 20, 2014 11:03 am

In post 321, Yosarian2 wrote:
In post 265, Yosarian2 wrote:
In post 263, Natirasha wrote:I'm lurking.
I know you replaced in late, but that was 2 days ago, and the thread is only 11 page long.

I'm going to give you another 24 hours to read the thread and post something intelligent about it. If you haven't done so by then, I'm going to vote for you.

Vote: Natirasha

You have 3 choice; you can play the game, you can replace out, or you can die. It's totally up to you, but one of those three things is going to happen today.

VOTE: Natirasha

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #369 (isolation #11) » Wed May 28, 2014 6:05 am

Zorblag is town.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #388 (isolation #12) » Wed May 28, 2014 11:39 am

LML is town.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #390 (isolation #13) » Wed May 28, 2014 11:41 am

In post 372, chamber wrote:You keep calling Nat the VI wagon this game, but he wasn't. Nat was never going to get lynched for those votes, they were just forcing him to participate or replace out. The VI wagon this game has been an is on MafiaSSK.

Very true.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #391 (isolation #14) » Wed May 28, 2014 11:42 am

In post 373, Shanba wrote:
Generally, I look at D1 voting two different ways, I look for opportunistic scum who takes advantage of the early wagons (So far, the early wagons include Tigris, MafiaSSK, Seol, Myself and, most recently, Zorblag (Far/Nat)).
What sort of advantage do you think scum get off the early wagons? Both in general, and in particular in this game?

Impatience. Getting a wagon going that's not on a team mate.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #392 (isolation #15) » Wed May 28, 2014 11:43 am

In post 377, Save The Dragons wrote:Since he was observing the game as town, all he has to do is dump his suspicions and it looks like he's made a big contribution. If he's scum, it takes 5 minutes to edit if he's nailed his scum partners, and that's even if he wants to. He certainly doesn't have to.

Since he included his replacee in his assessment, it is clear to me he made these notes with a town mindset (before he replaced). Now he has a pro-town artifact that may or may not be damning to scum.

Ummm, also true, will reconsider.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #394 (isolation #16) » Wed May 28, 2014 12:06 pm

TOWNIES

DrippingGoofball
Chamber
Glork
Albert B. Rampage
LoudmouthLee
Yosarian2
CrashtextDummie
MafiaSSK
Save the Dragons

SEEM OK SO FAR

VitaminR
Green Crayons
Petroleumjelly
Shanba
MrBuddyLee

MYSTERIES

Zorblag (replacing Natirasha, who replaced farside22)
Cogito Ergo Sum

BAD FEELINGS

Untrod Tripod (not town perspective)
undo (asking too many useless questions)
Tigris (RL excuses & self meta)
Seol (lack of scumhunting engagement)
Sotty7 (looking for reasons to findi players scummy)

MEAN'OLE SCUMBAGGOS

Porochaz

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #395 (isolation #17) » Wed May 28, 2014 12:11 pm

I feel cruel but

VOTE: Porochaz

Sorry mate

The game is the game

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #415 (isolation #18) » Wed May 28, 2014 4:12 pm

In post 403, VitaminR wrote: I don't get the Porochaz read, though. Why is he scum?

The combination of RL excuses and the posting style prior to said excuses smell of scum avoiding the game.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #497 (isolation #19) » Sat May 31, 2014 5:51 am

Still happy with my vote.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #505 (isolation #20) » Sat May 31, 2014 11:33 am

We can skip all these arguments and vote Porochaz!

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #524 (isolation #21) » Sun Jun 01, 2014 6:46 am

CES is town.

I'm sure the towntell is involuntary, LOL. He slipped up.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #535 (isolation #22) » Sun Jun 01, 2014 5:29 pm

In post 533, VitaminR wrote:I'm still not really getting what's so scummy about Bookitty's recent posts

Nor do I, can someone explain it in a few sentences (the fewer the better)?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #552 (isolation #23) » Tue Jun 03, 2014 6:17 am

MafiaSSK is a town replace-out.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #585 (isolation #24) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 2:57 am

In post 582, Untrod Tripod wrote:eh I'm totally happy to lynch either LML or Bookitty at this point

Thanks for being so obvious!

VOTE: Untrod Tripod

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #591 (isolation #25) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:21 am

In post 588, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 586, Zorblag wrote:@DrippingGoofball, I've had issues with Untrod Tripod's play, but that post is absolutely in line with what he's been saying in the game and is coming at an unsurprising time.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh
You know DGB like to throw shit at the wall and see what sticks, right?

I've been throwing shit at the wall? Everyone is complaining that I have too many town reads, LOL.

"Caught for the wrong reasons" strikes again.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #721 (isolation #26) » Sun Jun 08, 2014 5:37 pm

In post 681, Albert B. Rampage wrote:do not lynch bookitty

DO

NOT

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #722 (isolation #27) » Sun Jun 08, 2014 5:41 pm

In post 691, CrashTextDummie wrote:I don't think Porochaz is the only player (or even the worst) with a lacking level of engagement, but the dude announced the death of a relative. A reasonable course of action would be to give him some time to ascertain whether his "avoiding" of the game is actually scum motivated or the result of his RL tragedy (which would be more than understandable). The fact that he even remained in the game is mildly town telling to me given his apparent lack of enthusiasm in playing a scum role in the last Oldy game.

I was once burned by a scum lurking to victory on the basis of a

murdered

relative of all things.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #723 (isolation #28) » Sun Jun 08, 2014 5:48 pm

In post 720, Albert B. Rampage wrote:There's NO WAY that CES is looking town right now. Vote him.

I just got back from VLA and to be sure, CES has indeed shown an evil side these past few days.

But I'm already voting scum in Untrod Tripod... so difficult!

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #733 (isolation #29) » Mon Jun 09, 2014 5:45 am

Yeah, no, changed my mind again, CES is town.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #734 (isolation #30) » Mon Jun 09, 2014 5:46 am

Let's do this:

VOTE: Untrod Tripod

Iso him and find your own reasons!

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #760 (isolation #31) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:50 am

More Untrod Tripod votes please.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #775 (isolation #32) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:35 am

In post 751, Sotty7 wrote:I just found DGB's UT vote to be pretty bad which is why I questioned that read in particular.

So clearly, you haven't bothered iso'ing UT.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #776 (isolation #33) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:37 am

In post 761, Porochaz wrote:
In post 760, DrippingGoofball wrote:More Untrod Tripod votes please.
Glad you are posting effectively.

Why, is my style opaque? Am I hard to understand? Do I look like I have a hidden agenda? Are my reads equivocal?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #777 (isolation #34) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:37 am

In post 764, Bookitty wrote:I'm going to add Sotty7 to my scumlist as well.

I agree with this. I would be willing to lynch Sotty7.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #778 (isolation #35) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:40 am

In post 774, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 761, Porochaz wrote:
In post 760, DrippingGoofball wrote:More Untrod Tripod votes please.
Glad you are posting effectively.

You forgot to vote UT.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #785 (isolation #36) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:51 am

In post 783, Porochaz wrote:why would I have any reason to follow you?

Because you have read Iso's meager and scummy iso and you've reached the same conclusion I have?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #795 (isolation #37) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:15 pm

VOTE UNTROD TRIPOD

OLDY MAFIA'S ROB FORD

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #813 (isolation #38) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:15 pm

In post 796, Yosarian2 wrote:
In post 795, DrippingGoofball wrote:VOTE UNTROD TRIPOD

OLDY MAFIA'S ROB FORD
DGB, you're the only one who wants to lynch UT, and the deadline is in 20 hours. It's not going to happen today. Vote for someone else.

Oh alright, since you guys don't want to lynch the obvscum among us:

VOTE: KK

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #833 (isolation #39) » Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:07 am

He's going to flip town, why can't we lynch some useless scum like UT?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #835 (isolation #40) » Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:37 am

You really think this "bus" thing is a slip?

Because the emotion is real to me.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #838 (isolation #41) » Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:44 am

In post 837, Untrod Tripod wrote:Counterpoint let's lynch dgb because she's not even trying and as i recall thats a scumtell for her

And you're trying??? LOL

DIE SCUM DIE

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #839 (isolation #42) » Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:45 am

I hope we have a vig.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #845 (isolation #43) » Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:29 am

In post 842, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 839, DrippingGoofball wrote:I hope we have a vig.
Yeah, you getting vigged would be awesome.

Why, because I caught you?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #847 (isolation #44) » Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:39 am

In post 846, Untrod Tripod wrote:Dgb plz youre embarrassing yourself

Never mind, you're so town you'll never be lynched, and you'll make the right choice in 3p LYLO.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #860 (isolation #45) » Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:56 am

In post 859, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 854, chamber wrote:I'm not going to lynch LML
A no lynch is preferable?

YES

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #861 (isolation #46) » Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:56 am

In post 857, LoudmouthLee wrote:The mouse ran up the clock.
The clock struck one. The mouse ran down.

When I see a riddle or a puzzle, my brain shuts down.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #862 (isolation #47) » Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:57 am

In post 858, petroleumjelly wrote:So you're not going to claim, but are you going to imply (i.e., essentially claim) you are a Doc(tor).

I would not suggest anybody give opinions on his claim, as doing so will only help scum hunt for power. Votes, please -- we have very little time.

We can still elect Untrod Tripod for TOWN MAYOR!!!

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #887 (isolation #48) » Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:58 am

In post 883, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Bookitty (7) -- Sotty7, Shanba, Cogito Ergo Sum, chamber, mathcam, undo, CrashTextDummie

We need to lynch from this player pool.

Vote: mathcam

I'd sooner vote from LML's wagon since it is now confirmed that he was in fact complaining about being BUS'ed.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #888 (isolation #49) » Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:01 am

When LML complained about being bus'ed, this is what his wagon looked like:

LoudmouthLee (11) -- Green Crayons, Yosarian2, petroleumjelly, Save the Dragons, Porochaz, Kublai Khan, VitaminR

I have solid town reads on STD, Yosarian & VitaminR - and I think Green Crayons.

...leaving PJ, Poro & KK.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #910 (isolation #50) » Sat Jun 14, 2014 2:25 pm

In post 909, Green Crayons wrote:@DGB: why were you so convinced LML was town?

The emotional tone. I am mortified.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #915 (isolation #51) » Sat Jun 14, 2014 3:51 pm

In post 911, Yosarian2 wrote:
In post 873, VitaminR wrote: I think a
Vote: petroleumjelly
is in order. He had a range of weird interactions with LML Day 1, including his late jump on the LML wagon after never talking about him and LML's strange OMGUS-y response (which none of his other attackers triggered).
This is a bad vote. I am totally convinced PJ is obvtown now. The way that LML went after PJ seemed genuine, more real then his other attacks; LML he was really trying to lynch PJ, both because PJ was trying to lynch LML and because PJ looked lynchable. One of the big scumtells I had on LML was the difference between the PJ vote, who he seemed like he was really trying to lynch, and his other wagons, which looked like he didn't really care.

Eons ago I played with LML and we were both scum. We bus'ed each other insanely all of day 1 and I ended up being the lynch. He coasted to victory.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #919 (isolation #52) » Sat Jun 14, 2014 5:28 pm

currently voting for me:

Untrod Tripod,

petroleumjelly

,

Kublai Khan

, Sotty7,

Save the Dragons

LML bus'ers:

Green Crayons, Yosarian2,

petroleumjelly

,

Save the Dragons

, Porochaz,

Kublai Khan

, VitaminR

Two out of

PJ, STD & KK

are scum.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #933 (isolation #53) » Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:15 am

In post 927, Glork wrote:Agreed, MBL.

KK is not scum. I think LML saw him pick up a few votes and just jumped on the opportunity to hopefully swing the direction in someone-not-him.

And as DGB alluded to earlier, a hard bus is reasonable to conclude, especially based on past performances. UT is an attractive option here, and something still feels off to me about PJ's play.

I'll get to VitR later, possibly.

Thoughts on STD?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #934 (isolation #54) » Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:15 am

In post 929, Bookitty wrote:There wasn't any tentativeness on either side there imo.

That is not diagnostic when it comes to LML.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #941 (isolation #55) » Sun Jun 15, 2014 8:08 am

In post 938, Glork wrote:I don't really have a beat on him one way or another. To be completely honest, I haven't investigated his contributions in detail.

Would you, if you find the time?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #978 (isolation #56) » Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:41 pm

petroleumjelly, Save the Dragons, Porochaz, Kublai Khan, Porochaz

Two of these players bus'ed LML yesterday, and are currently going after me, the easy lynch-du-jour.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #983 (isolation #57) » Sun Jun 15, 2014 2:09 pm

In post 982, Glork wrote:then tried to claim Doc.

Really? I thought he was hinting at roleblocker.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #986 (isolation #58) » Sun Jun 15, 2014 2:36 pm

In post 984, chamber wrote:How did you get roleblocker from hickory dickory dock?

What's that? Where did he say that?

Wasn't there something about a mouse and a clock? I thought messing with the clock movement.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #987 (isolation #59) » Sun Jun 15, 2014 2:36 pm

In post 985, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 978, DrippingGoofball wrote:Two of these players bus'ed LML yesterday, and are currently going after me, the easy lynch-du-jour.
woe is me I am so easy to lynch

god you're so scum dgb

Play the game and stop trolling.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #989 (isolation #60) » Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:00 pm

While I do have concerns about mutual hard-bus'ing between PJ & LML, I find that PJ pointing out the phoniness of LML's spreadsheet, which completely fooled me, would make it an extreme-bus. It was then a time to sit back and see how his partner's efforts were received.

LML's fake spreadsheet lead him to a UT vote.

LML wrote:Here's who I am leaning scum on:
UT, Mathcam, STD, Sotty

Here's who I have strong scum feelings for:
PJ

I would bet two scums in that list.

LML voted Tigris, PJ, STD, UT, KK >>> I would bet that some of the cross-bus'ing referenced to by LML was his scumpals' reaction to being bus'ed by LML.
LML FOS: GC, MafiaSSK/mathcam, CTD >>> most likely scum in the list (mildly so) is mathcam.

petroleumjelly:

(1) Suspected mega cross-bus'ing
(2) voted MafiaSSK/mathcam, LML, Bookitty, LML, DGB, Glork
(3) FOS MafiaSSK/mathcam, VitaminR, Glork, Bookitty, Glork

Save the Dragons:

(1) Suspected cross-bus'ing.
(2) voted UT, MafiaSSK/mathcam, Seol/Bookitty, undo, Zorblag, PJ, Bookitty, LML, PJ,

Porochaz:

(1) Suspected bus'ing.
(2) voted UT, MafiaSSK/mathcam, LML, DGB
(3) Reading Poro's iso, he's very nebulous and wishy-washy about everything except for an un-natural laser focus accuracy on LML. That does reek of bus'ing by a player in dire need of redeeming himself. Also mirrors PJ's evaluation of LML's excel sheet as nonsense.

Kublai Khan:

(1) Suspected bus'ing.

KK wrote:I think LoudmouthLee is pretty scummy. petroleumjelly doesn't seem scummy. Just getting started on analyzing BooKitty. So, VOTE: LoudmouthLee
for now
.

This sounds like lazy bus'ing. KK didn't even "analyze" Bookitty at all.

KK on PAGE 4 already wrote:Scum: sotty7, LML, VitaminR, porochaz, Seol/Bookitty

Sotty7:

(1) LML leaning scum on Sotty but not voting Sotty or FOS'ing Sotty
(2) votes Glork, Seol/Bookitty, DGB

Sotty7 wrote:I would support a LML wagon outside my current Seol vote, mostly based on some "bad mojo" he's been exuding

Sotty7 wrote:I'm not buying the scum slip simply because the rest of that post sounded like frustrated town to me. My vote's not switching.

MafiaSSK/mathcam:

(1) voted Bookity, FOS PJ. Antidote to all the bus'ing???

UntrodTripod:

(1)

In post 842, Untrod Tripod wrote:
unvote vote lml
balls deep

smells like a coasting, trolling pot-shotting scum that KNOWS LML will flip scum.

==================

OK.

(a) Porochaz is one of the worse-looking players on that list.
(b) KK is also looking terrible. Interesting that LML & Porochaz are on KK's scum list.
(c) Sotty7 & mathcam may be the non-bus'ing scum. Mathcam doesn't mention STD. Sotty7 has prepared the grounds to bus LML but votes Bookitty and refuses to vote LML

in extremis

, so Sotty7 is prob town for this. Leaving mathcam as a non-bus'ing scum candidate.
(d) UT is scum.
(e) Of PJ & STD, and I really feel like I'm close to coin-tossing here, the player that is potentially scummiest is PJ. HOWEVER I would let these two live longer because they're worth getting a better read on.

SCUM: Porochaz, KK, mathcam, UT

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #990 (isolation #61) » Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:01 pm

Favored lynches:

Porochaz, KK, mathcam, UT

Would half-assedly lynch PJ or STD, preferring more time to read them better.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #993 (isolation #62) » Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:48 pm

In post 992, petroleumjelly wrote:The laser-focus on players who attacked LoudmouthLee is so astoundingly dumb

He's the one that complained about being bus'ed, LOL.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #994 (isolation #63) » Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:49 pm

In post 992, petroleumjelly wrote:Acting like she did not understand the Hickory Dickory Doc(tor) claim is not credible.

Yeah I had to look this up, I'm French, I never heard of such things.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #995 (isolation #64) » Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:50 pm

In post 992, petroleumjelly wrote:I would also suspect there was scum off of his wagon.

For sure, but the combination of bus'ing LOL and VOTING THE EASY LYNCH DGB is powerful indeed.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #997 (isolation #65) » Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:52 pm

In post 991, petroleumjelly wrote:why would Bookitty assume that LoudmouthLee crumbing "roleblocker"

Oh hey look, someone else thought "roleblocker!"

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #998 (isolation #66) » Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:54 pm

In post 992, petroleumjelly wrote:No. That is just awful.

How many of your buddies did I catch?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1001 (isolation #67) » Sun Jun 15, 2014 4:00 pm

Good catch of a fake crumb, actually.

For the non-claim... I had to learn

La cigale et la fourmi

by heart, those English kid things are foreign to me.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1004 (isolation #68) » Sun Jun 15, 2014 4:08 pm

I get that now.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1007 (isolation #69) » Sun Jun 15, 2014 4:19 pm

I am reading into it. You bet I am. I am combining what must be the fact of about two scums on LML's wagon at the time he complained about it, and the players going for my lynch today.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1010 (isolation #70) » Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:35 pm

In post 1008, Glork wrote:DGB's nonsensical verbiage

LOL Have some respect for your elders, young man!

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1023 (isolation #71) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:22 am

In post 1011, mathcam wrote:he can be on an LML wagon and be very insistent about it without anyone taking him seriously, because he contributes essentially nothing in terms of an argument. And then he was quite happy to abandon that wagon in favor of greener pastures that don't get his scumbuddy LML lynched.

Rest assured that if ABR was scum, he wouldn't half-ass bus LML. He'd be all in.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1024 (isolation #72) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:26 am

In post 1013, MrBuddyLee wrote:While I don't think we should necessarily go after LML-busers today or those that LML bused, I think it's important to make it clear that busing his scumpartners has historically been a huge and even pathological part of LML's play. I posted this last Tuesday, about twelve hours before LML "slipped" that he was being bused:

I don't recall the name of the game, it was one of the earliest ones I played on the site, and it was not Himalayan Mafia. It was yet another game.

LML & I were buddies.

Day 1, he bus'ed me so hard and so aggressively, I reacted in anger by bus'ing him as hard as he bus'ed me. We both staked out mafia lives on the other being scum, LOL. I ended up the Day 1 (or maybe Day 2?) lynch, and he coasted to victory on the basis of how hard that bus was, he was wrongly conftown all game.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1025 (isolation #73) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:29 am

In post 1015, petroleumjelly wrote:DrippingGoofball gave the definite impression

Wut no, it was a

VAGUE

impression. I did say after his fakeclaim that my brain shuts down when I see a riddle or a puzzle. Where do you get "definite" impression????????

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1026 (isolation #74) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:34 am

In post 1016, MrBuddyLee wrote:@DGB, how did you arrive at your solid town read of STD earlier this weekend? Has your opinion changed since then? Based on what evidence?

His train of thought seems forward and honest, even if he's misreading me as scum at the moment, none of the facts of his case are wrong. Only the conclusions.

STD moved his vote constantly and that's a town tell for me.

His interactions with LML are suspect, though.

PJ on the other hand is making stuff up. And there was a vigorous X-bus with LML.

I think between STD & PJ, PJ is the most likely scum actually. The way PJ is going after Glork is utter rubbish, too.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1027 (isolation #75) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:38 am

In post 1018, Porochaz wrote:considering pj explicitly stated what LML was doing in the very next post and you referenced it and pj's reply 2 posts later!

It made no sense to me, scum.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1034 (isolation #76) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:38 am

In post 858, petroleumjelly wrote:
I would not suggest anybody give opinions on his claim
, as doing so will only help scum hunt for power. Votes, please -- we have very little time.

Hey Porochaz, I know you're scum and all, but here's an embarrassing quote for you.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1036 (isolation #77) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:25 am

In post 1035, Porochaz wrote:Hey, it shows you noticed the damn thing.

Want to get your story straight DGB?

Sorry mate I don't argue with scum.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1037 (isolation #78) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:27 am

Porochaz, please commit to naming 5 players that you think are my buddies.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1041 (isolation #79) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:01 am

In post 1038, Porochaz wrote: Onto your 5 buddies question.

Let me start off by saying, a game of this size, 5 buddies is a bit ridiculous - 4 if we include LML. I've already stated you and Glork seem to be quite good together and I've also expressed suspicion on undo, mathcam and Sotty. Which by the way, if we are going in to your "case" against me goes against your claims that I am being wishy-washy, but alas, thats for a different post.

I'm giving you some leeway with the number of buddies here.

Tell me more about your undo suspicions.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1043 (isolation #80) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:04 am

In post 1042, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Lynch mathcam. PLEASE lynch mathcam. EVERYBODY.

OK OK

VOTE: mathcam

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1054 (isolation #81) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:03 am

In post 1045, Kublai Khan wrote:I'm from Quebec too. I know the nursery rhyme. It's a fairly ubiquitous Mother Goose story. Just as La cigale et la fourmi is a common fable as well (The Ant and the Grasshopper).

I didn't speak a word of English until I was 16.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1078 (isolation #82) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:24 pm

In post 1075, Green Crayons wrote:@DGB:

You've focused on LML's "bus" slip, and that's fine, but have you considered that maybe it was in there on purpose to let his teammates know it was okay to do him in? Does that change anything for you?

He was L-3? L-4? PJ & Bookitty were still alternatives. Why confess scum at that point?

No, that was a true slip. I can say that with the benefit of hindsight.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1079 (isolation #83) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:30 pm

In post 1077, petroleumjelly wrote:You gave the definite impression of thinking LoudmouthLee was a Roleblocker in Post 893. My wording was not the best there, but you must have had that impression before LoudmouthLee actually flipped scum. Did you, like Bookitty, think the "Rollus Interruptus / Diceblocking" post was a Roleblocker crumb? The timeline of your thought process is confusing.

I thought "lame PR" and roleblocker came to mind very vaguely from interfering with clock movement. I didn't catch the fake breadcrumb that Bookitty found.

Also your link to post 893 is a Glork post???? No wonder you find the timeline confusing.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1080 (isolation #84) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:31 pm

In post 1077, petroleumjelly wrote:mathcam

Hey PJ

Vote mathcam

I think ABR is hinting at a guilty result

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1084 (isolation #85) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:42 pm

In post 1082, mathcam wrote:Seriously, DGB? Now you're taking a ridiculous stab at identifying a cop
and
outing said cop at the same time?

LOL are you confirming ABR is a cop with a guilty on you?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1086 (isolation #86) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:48 pm

In post 1085, mathcam wrote:How on earth did you read that from what I wrote?

If you're innocent, I'm not outing a "cop," I'm just pretending to think ABR is a cop.

Only if you're scum, am I outing a cop, LOL. You said I outed ABR-cop who is hinting at a guilty on YOU. You just confessed scum.

Thanks!

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1088 (isolation #87) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:06 pm

In post 1087, petroleumjelly wrote:Wow. FoS: DrippingGoofball.

You REALLY are confused. You're voting me already. Now I get an FOS???

I love you're continuing your interrogation of mathcam like he hasn't just confessed scum.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1093 (isolation #88) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:25 pm

In post 1090, petroleumjelly wrote:there is no actually no easy way mathcam could point this out without in some way suggesting Albert B. Rampage, if a Cop, could have such an investigation result.

Actually, there IS a way.

"no one can have a guilty on me, I am town."

I don't drink.

I say ABR is a cop with a guilty on mathcam.

mathcam says:

"you crazy outing the cop?"

NOT

"no one can have a guilty on me, I am town."

mathcam is acknowledging that ABR is a cop. A cop with a guilty on mathcam.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1098 (isolation #89) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:09 am

In post 1096, mathcam wrote:That does not suitably convey how ludicrous it was that you thought you would reveal your cop suspicion.

ABR is so obvious, Sherlock. I didn't "reveal" anything.

Also you're scum with a guilty on you so.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1100 (isolation #90) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:53 am

In post 1099, Kublai Khan wrote:Well, obviously Albert B. Rampage isn't a cop, so...

Obviously he is the cop, mathcam said so.

Go ahead and lynch me I'm vanilla.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1108 (isolation #91) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:48 am

In post 1106, Yosarian2 wrote:
In post 1086, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1085, mathcam wrote:How on earth did you read that from what I wrote?
If you're innocent, I'm not outing a "cop," I'm just pretending to think ABR is a cop.

Only if you're scum, am I outing a cop, LOL. You said I outed ABR-cop who is hinting at a guilty on YOU. You just confessed scum.

Thanks!
...

You give me a massive headache, DGB.

Oh come on it's soooooo obvious

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1110 (isolation #92) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:56 am

In post 1103, MrBuddyLee wrote:@DGB, what's your take on Bookitty at this point? Was yesterday's lynch horserace scum vs town or scum vs scum? Reason I ask is that two of your top suspects took the race from [ Bookitty(8) LML(4) ] to [ Bookitty(8) LML(6) ]. Have you considered all that when looking at KK and Poro?

I had not. Looks good for them both, actually.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1111 (isolation #93) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:59 am

In post 1109, CrashTextDummie wrote: ABR is probably somewhat scummier to me than DGB, but she's a good lynch as well. Same goes for mathcam and, to a lesser extent, BooKitty still.

vote: DGB

So ABR & I are bus'ing mathcam according to your scum road map?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1167 (isolation #94) » Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:24 am

In post 165, DrippingGoofball wrote:scum is Porochaz & LML

Hey you didn't count this!

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1168 (isolation #95) » Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:25 am

In post 1166, petroleumjelly wrote:
In post 1161, VitaminR wrote:Echoing KK: Can both pj and Glork explain their switch to ABR? I don't get how his Post 1144 prompted those votes.
Two reasons.

First, the "breathe in, breathe out" commentary towards Glork's alleged "tilt" does not seem sincere or necessary. I don't like it.

And second, Albert B. Rampage alleged he had "looked into the players bussing LoudmouthLee" and decided mathcam was the worst (and maybe CrashTextDummie), but neither of those players had voted LoudmouthLee. Even if I was charitable enough to think he
meant
Bookitty when he said LoudmouthLee, the use of the word "bus" would still be wrong unless Bookitty is also scum (which then begs the question why Albert B. Rampage is not voting for Bookitty). It suggests that Albert B. Rampage has fairly artificial suspicions given that his single sentence must be read to have
two
mistakes in order to make any sense.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1170 (isolation #96) » Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:54 am

VOTE: ABR

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1173 (isolation #97) » Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:26 am

In post 1172, Kublai Khan wrote:DrippingGoofball's vote on Albert B. Rampage... Now that's a scum move.

Is there any move I could make that you wouldn't consider a scum move LOL?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1175 (isolation #98) » Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:51 am

In post 1174, Kublai Khan wrote:Yes, plenty. You could always boot up the scumputer instead of scrambling to be on the forefront of whatever new trend is sweeping the game.

It's Day Effin 2, there is no use to the scumputer.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1184 (isolation #99) » Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:42 am

In post 1176, Albert B. Rampage wrote:She's too quick to abandon the previous bandwagon to add herself to mine. She's scum.

Pffffft

I thought you were a cop hinting at a guilty on mathcam, duh.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:44 am

In post 1183, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I'm pretty sure mathcam or Sotty is scum.

Sotty

is

scum. She's in everybody's blind spot.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jun 18, 2014 7:55 am

In post 1186, Albert B. Rampage wrote:You've made an enemy out of a friend DGB, and now I won't unvote you.

Why me? How come you're not trying to intimidate PJ & Glork who voted you before I did?

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jun 18, 2014 7:56 am

I'm going to make this prediction:

All but one scum is currently voting for me.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jun 18, 2014 11:45 am

DrippingGoofball (7) -- Untrod Tripod, Kublai Khan, Sotty7, Save the Dragons, Porochaz, CrashTextdummie, Albert B. Rampage

All but one scum is on that shit wagon.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jun 18, 2014 11:48 am

Sotty7, UntrodTripod, and ???

I will iso sometime tomorrow, I'm going out tonight.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:02 pm

In post 1213, CrashTextDummie wrote:The ABR miniwagon is appealing, but the DGB megawagon is good enough.

FOS buddy, vote townie?

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:04 pm

In post 1213, CrashTextDummie wrote:In post 1191, Save The Dragons wrote:Out of curiosity, what defines the wagon du jour?

A very pertinent question that I hope DGB will have an amusing answer to.

Duh, my belief in LML's towniness and in his AtE makes me the world's easiest target for today.

That's why all but one scum is on my wagon, and they'll be very reluctant to abandon such a "justified" wagon.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:07 pm

CTD. I'm town.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:08 pm

If I were an innocent child, who would you be voting today?

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:14 pm

Eh. just lynch me already.

I'm just vanilla. No big loss.

My wagon is heavy with the scum. Hear me now, believe me later.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:24 pm

In post 1225, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Do it, guys.

If you were town you'd read me as town.

DrippingGoofball · Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:49 am

In post 1271, Glork wrote:It's simply not in her nature to give up, so there's got to be a reason

Look. I'm within months of being put on an organ transplant waiting list. I'm nauseous any time I'm awake and other stuff I share with my doctors.

If you think I'm going to spend my last days of health on a vicious, stressful, annoying-everybody 1-on-1 war with ABR you are kidding yourself. ABR and I have played this disgusting dance many a time already and I am not /in for more. I am sure many here recall the highly personal feuds between ABR and I, no one wants to see it, and I don't want to do it.

Screw that.

So just lynch me, I look forward to relaxing in the dead QT.

DrippingGoofball · Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:52 am

By "last days of health" I mean RELATIVE health because I'll never be as "healthy" as I am now ever again.

I hate to bring this stuff into a GAME but this is not the first time players are puzzled at my change in demeanor.

If it's no longer fun, then it's a waste of my time, I should be doing something that is fun instead. Like the Dead QT.

DrippingGoofball · Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:56 am

Also I'm town.

DrippingGoofball · Thu Jun 19, 2014 8:14 am

In post 1276, Albert B. Rampage wrote:then vote for me at the first opportunity to bandwagon when I haven't said anything against you?

WTF this isn't a personal vendetta

I can't vote for you unless you "said something agaisnt me?"

And if you say "something against me" that my cue to 1-on-1 to death with you?

F that

Lynch me please

DrippingGoofball · Thu Jun 19, 2014 8:15 am

Gonna take a 48 hour stress break

I'm hope I'm dead by then

I'm still town

Enjoy your mislynch

DrippingGoofball · Thu Jun 19, 2014 8:41 am

You never answered my question:

Why aren't you harassing Glork and PJ?

I voted you for the same reason they did.

I will no longer answer any of your questions. I must disengage.

I'd rather be dead than fight with you, ABR. Literally. Be. Dead.

DrippingGoofball · Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:23 am

In post 1281, Untrod Tripod wrote:holy shit DGB

uh

look I'm sorry I'm scumreading you, it really wasn't because of your personal life. Please be well

Fine if you wrongly scum read me, I only brought it up because mathcam and Glork are discussing my demeanor. Nothing to do with you in particular. There IS an explanation for that.

DrippingGoofball · Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:24 am

In post 1285, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Your shift between "Albert is a cop with a guilty on mathcam" to "Albert is scum" doesn't seem sincere to me at all.

You made more posts, I agreed with PJ & Glork's reasoning.

I beg you to stop talking to me. Please leave me alone. You're voting me, tell people to vote me, but please leave me alone.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:31 am

Thank you PJ for that

shamelessly dishonest

bit of "meta" where you failed to look at any town games of mine.

This game reminds me very much of Pikmin Mafia - I had nailed a large part of the scum team and some of the scum (notably Oversoul and ActionDan) pushed very hard to lynch me (even as I was a counterclaiming VIG!), while some other scum sat coyly in the corners. They succeeded in lynching me (the vig), and that town was such a mountain of FAIL that they still didn't lynch these two scumbags and the scum WON.

I strongly believe LML was

in fact

X-bus'ing with a couple of his buddies, and my being vocal about this is one big reason why the scum needs to eliminate me. MBL will agree; anyone suggesting that there may not have been bus'ing, or that LML wrote "bus" on purpose is HIGHLY SUSPECT. These are players trying very hard to undo the damage caused by LML to the scum team. LML's buddies wanted him lynched for all the bus'ing he was doing. You have to have been scum with LML to understand this.

I think the main target of LML's bus'ing was PJ. PJ was the buddy that needed LML lynched the most for (1) town cred and (2) to get LML off his own back.

The players dismissing the LML-bus'ing theory are mostly scum >>> and me just saying that right now is going to earn me more votes, just watch.

I'm willing to put some work and give you all my 100% analysis of the game but unlike the dumbos of Pikmin Mafia, I need that some of you promise to lynch the players on my scum list to give my game ghost some peace in the Dead QT.

Do we have a deal?

I don't want to be wasting my time like I did on the Pikmin FAILtown.

Right off the bat I'm pretty sure that PJ is scum (though I don't relish going up against him, he's going to bury me in

words

) and Sotty7 as well. I've played with Sotty7 before many times and she's totally not scum hunting. I

will

analyse their play with a "clean mind" to avoid confirmation bias.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:55 am

In post 1395, Sotty7 wrote:DGB - what do you think of the possibility that CTD was the bussing buddy?

CTD or STD?

DrippingGoofball · Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:52 am

In post 1400, petroleumjelly wrote:How often do you do that as Town?

Literally ALL THE TIME.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:52 am

In post 1400, petroleumjelly wrote:explain your Day One reasons for voting for Porochaz and Untrod Tripod. It seems you have still failed to give any.

I did.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:53 am

In post 1400, petroleumjelly wrote:why would you prefer a No Lynch over a LoudmouthLee lynch?

I believed his ATE. I don't care about theory.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:55 am

In post 1408, Save The Dragons wrote:It glorifies any analysis from her

But it will glorify it MORE after I flip town. I want my analysis to be glorified.

Are you afraid that I will find you scum for the LML X-bus'ing, and after I flip town, you'll be lynched?

DrippingGoofball · Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:45 pm

ANALYSIS

THINGS I KNOW FOR SURE:

I am town.

THINGS I'D STAKE MY MAFIA LIFE ON:

MrBuddyLee is town.
Yosarian2 is town.
Some of the scumpals LML was bus'ing didn't enjoy LML's performance and decided to bus him right back to the death.

THINGS I'M PRETTY SURE ABOUT:

Chamber is town.
Cogito Ergo Sum is town.
Glork is town
I still consider that mathcam made a big mistake in his reaction when I pretended that ABR had a guilty on him.

THINGS I AM ADDING ON RE-READ:

GreenCrayons is likely town.
VitaminR is likely town.
Sotty7 is likely town
inHimshallibe is likely town (replacing Zorblag who replaced Natirasha, who replaced farside22).
(1) farside made two posts with only questions.
(2) Zorblag's post was apparently made before he read his role PM, and therefore cannot be trusted.
(3) Natirasha "reck's game was cool and I had a fun role, here I don't." Vanilla townie alert.
(4) InHim drops out, like in the good old days.

UNABLE TO READ OBJECTIVELY:

Albert B. Rampage > I'll say that I am

not

getting town vibes.

SHORTLIST OF THINGS THAT AREN'T SUPER TOWNIE:

CrashtextDummie > but not super-scummy, either.
Untrod Tripod > vig bait please
undo > I'm not convinced is scum.
Bookitty (replacing Seol) > pretty town upon iso.
Kublai Khan (replacing Tigris) > prob town upon iso.

SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM:

Porochaz > is wishy-washy but was uncharacteristically certain about LML-scum.
mathcam (replacing MafiaSSK) > believed that a cop was outed with a guilty on him. Might have been the scum's easy day 1 bus for a time.
SaveTheDragons > LML bus'ing games, although from iso'ing STD & PJ, STD is less scummy than PJ. I'd lynch PJ first. They are voting in tandem a lot. I wouldn't be shocked if both were scum.
Petroleumjelly > LML bus'ing games. PJ is BY FAR the scummiest player.

VOTE MOVEMENTS

Tigris/KK (6) -- LoudmouthLee, chamber, Glork, MafiaSSK/mathcam, MrBuddyLee, Untrod Tripod
MafiaSSK/mathcam (6) – Tigris/KK, Save the Dragons, petroleumjelly, Seol/Bookitty, Porochaz, Green Crayons

(1)There is one confscum on Tigris/KK, so the rest of the players on that wagon are more likely town. In fact there are 3 players on this wagon that are almost certainly town.
(2)There is no confscum on MafiaSSK/mathcam, and frankly other than Bookitty (maybe), the passengers smell of BO. Tigris/KK, STD, petroleumjelly, Porochaz, Green Crayons

In this votecount http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p5897974 LML votes STD. At this time the LML wagon is composed of DrippingGoofball, VitaminR, Albert B. Rampage. LML's STD vote was a sustained one that he argued with "conviction."

The Seol/Bookitty wagon grows while LML stagnates:

Sotty7, Shanba, Cogito Ergo Sum, chamber, Save the Dragons, Glork, farside/Natirasha/Zor/inHim

This Seol/Bookitty wagon is populated by my town reads minus STD.

LML's wagon fizzles and he moves his vote to UT following a fake analysis. PJ re-starts LML's wagon.

LML wrote:

Here's who I am leaning scum on:

UT, Mathcam, STD, Sotty

(

Here's who I have strong scum feelings for:

PJ

***PJ voted LML before LML voted PJ.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p5914516 >>>

here LML votes PJ and ends his post with "

KILL PJ

"

Next important wagons:

LoudmouthLee (2) -- Green Crayons, Yosarian2
Bookitty (9) -- Sotty7, Shanba, Cogito Ergo Sum, chamber, Untrod Tripod, Save the Dragons, petroleumjelly, mathcam, undo
petroleumjelly (5) -- Albert B. Rampage, VitaminR, LoudmouthLee, Bookitty, Glork

PJ retreated from LML onto Bookitty, this is the second time that PJ & STD vote in tandem.

DrippingGoofball (7) -- Untrod Tripod, Kublai Khan, Sotty7, Save the Dragons, Porochaz, CrashTextdummie, Albert B. Rampage
Albert B. Rampage (3) -- Glork, petroleumjelly, DrippingGoofball

Definitely two scums on my wagon, if not three - but more likely 2.

Since I'm town, there is very little incentive for scum to switch wagons. Why move from one town wagon to another (or a scum wagon that's grown so large, scum are compelled to bus), unless you think a town wagon is melting, and won't go through???

Let's see who was most reluctant to move from my wagon to undo's.

DrippingGoofball (7) --

Untrod Tripod

, Kublai Khan, Sotty7, Save the Dragons,

Porocha

z, CrashTextdummie, Albert B. Rampage
undo (8) -- MrBuddyLee, Glork, chamber, Cogito Ergo Sum, Yosarian2,

Porochaz

,

Untrod Tripod

, Bookitty

The undo wagon is SUPER TOWNIE. I'm not so sure about Porochaz and UT, but this wagon is full of the towniest townies that ever towned this game.

The only players that moved from my townie wagon, to undo's wagon are Porochaz and Untrod Tripod. The undo voters mostly arose from non-DGB voters.

Now with undo's wagon wavering, mine is re-awakened with some urgency by:

petroleumjelly, Green Crayons, Sotty7

Now undo makes a case against Glork, who has the following votes:

Glork (4) -- VitaminR, undo, Kublai Khan, Albert B. Rampage

I'm not sure what to make of this. ^^^

INDIVIDUALS

(this is a previous post with some modifications/addenda)

LML

(1) His first attacks are on Sotty and SSK/mathcam.
(2) Then he's attacked by VitaminR, and he mollifies VitaminR by attacking ABR and voting STD.
(3) Note: ABR didn't react to LML's vote like he reacted to me when I voted him.
(4) LML takes constant pot shots at ABR.
(5) The fact that LML tried to mollify VitaminR instead of getting into a X-bus with him is a sign that VitaminR is probably town. In fact he tried to mollify VitaminR repeatedly.
(6) LML argues mildly with Sotty, keeps vote on STD.
(7) GreenCrayon's attack on LML in #391 looks totally legit and does NOT smell like bus'ing. Secret tell here.

petroleumjelly:

(1) Suspected mega cross-bus'ing
(2) voted MafiaSSK/mathcam, LML, Bookitty, LML, DGB, Glork
(3) FOS MafiaSSK/mathcam, VitaminR, Glork, Bookitty, Glork

(4) PJ actually has gone from voting me, then ABR, then me??? How is this not scummy???

(5) PJ is trying to turn the tide AWAY from undo and onto me
(6)

"Honestly, I don't know. I do not have a good grasp on Save the Dragons' play. LoudmouthLee's reasons were weak, but that is consistent with Save the Dragons being of either alignment."

I think this points to PJ & STD being scum together.
(7) Metas me without looking at any town game. Not that I can be meta'd... but still. ZERO for honesty.

Save the Dragons:

(1) Suspected cross-bus'ing.
(2) voted UT, MafiaSSK/mathcam, Seol/Bookitty, undo, Zorblag, PJ, Bookitty, LML, PJ,

Porochaz:

(1) Suspected bus'ing.
(2) voted UT, MafiaSSK/mathcam, LML, DGB
(3) Reading Poro's iso, he's very nebulous and wishy-washy about everything except for an un-natural laser focus accuracy on LML. That does reek of bus'ing by a player in dire need of redeeming himself. Also mirrors PJ's evaluation of LML's excel sheet as nonsense.
(4) Moved off my wagon to undo's late in the game.

Kublai Khan:

(1) Suspected bus'ing.
KK wrote:I think LoudmouthLee is pretty scummy. petroleumjelly doesn't seem scummy. Just getting started on analyzing BooKitty. So, VOTE: LoudmouthLee for now.
This sounds like lazy bus'ing. KK didn't even "analyze" Bookitty at all.
KK on PAGE 4 already wrote:Scum: sotty7, LML, VitaminR, porochaz, Seol/Bookitty
(2) KK's #819 sounds too sure.
(3) Tigris' “As LML said, it is an old 'tell'” doesn't sound like something a buddy would say.

Sotty7:

(1) LML leaning scum on Sotty but not voting Sotty or FOS'ing Sotty
(2) votes Glork, Seol/Bookitty, DGB

Sotty7 wrote: "I would support a LML wagon outside my current Seol vote, mostly based on some "bad mojo" he's been exuding"

(3) Sotty7 supported PJ trying to turn the tide AWAY from undo and onto me with her vote
(4) When Sotty7 challenged LML early on, he took it in stride, he responds by re-inforcing his STD scumread. I wouldn't be
(5)

“I'm not buying the scum slip simply because the rest of that post sounded like frustrated town to me. My vote's not switching.”

MafiaSSK/mathcam:

(1) voted Bookity, FOS PJ. Antidote to all the bus'ing???
(2) LML was inconsistent here, he would FOS MafiaSSK/mathcam, not vote him.
(3) believed that I outed a cop with a guilty on him.

UntrodTripod:

(1)In post 842, Untrod Tripod wrote:unvote vote lml balls deep > smells like a coasting, trolling pot-shotting scum that KNOWS LML will flip scum.
(2) Moved off my wagon to undo's late in the game.
(3) Now this is HIGHLY subjective and contradicts points (1) and (2) but LML's fake analysis leading to UT smells of LML trying to deflect from MafiaSSK/mathcam's “VI” wagon onto a townie. I may be wrong but that's my feeling about it.

Green Crayons:

(1) Green Crayon supported PJ trying to turn the tide AWAY from undo and onto me with his vote.
(2) GC's attacks on LML are genuine.

undo

(1) wagon is very townie but that's a proxy measurement which is not hugely reliable.
(2) I like the measures of interactions with LML. It shows that he went back to read up on the scum. I may not agree with his vote on me or his vote on Glork, and while MBL's case was convincing I'm not convinced he's correct.

VitaminR:

(1) LML tried to placate him so prob town.

CrashTextDummy:

(1) “Not an optimal lynch, but not a terrible one either. “

Glork:

(1) “Holy shit, someone hammer. I'm not even a fan of this lynch but something NEEDS to happen.” NOT something a late bus'ing scum would say.

ABR:

(1) I cannot examine this player objectively.

THE NIGHTKILL

Not very informative since Shanba was keeping a low profile with his suspicions. Two theories: was chosen because unlikely to be watched or doc-protected, or to deflect suspicion from very proficient players staying alive too long. No conclusion.

DrippingGoofball · Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:46 pm

VOTE: petroleumjelly

DrippingGoofball · Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:23 am

In post 1441, MrBuddyLee wrote:So if I don't want to vote Poro, PJ or STD today, and if a bunch of us have this nagging feeling that undo could just as easily be stubborn, dumbass town as stubborn dumbass scum, what's the play?

You should vote PJ anyway. The #4/5 person on the LML-wagon doesn't count as anything special since LML was moaning about being bus'ed.

The usually analytical PJ is spinning like a windmill in a hurricane today.

DrippingGoofball · Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:24 am

In post 1442, mathcam wrote:Ummm, ABR?

Why?

DrippingGoofball · Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:29 am

In post 1448, Green Crayons wrote:UNVOTE: DGB

Don't know who to vote for. How disheartening.

I can't tempt you to vote for PJ? mathcam? STD?

Do you have reasons NOT to vote for UT or ABR?

DrippingGoofball · Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:31 am

There is no point lynching Glork, unless he hasn't been NK'd by his game expiration date.

DrippingGoofball · Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:22 pm

@ undo

Please list all players that have failed to make a case, and tell us how this makes them scummy, or not.

Thanks!

DrippingGoofball · Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:28 pm

In post 1463, Sotty7 wrote:
DGB
- what moved me into the townie pile on your re-read? I see nothing that would bump me unless it is the early interactions I had with LML

(4) & (5) under your name.

DrippingGoofball · Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:15 pm

In post 1465, Green Crayons wrote:UT: Because he's playing town.

ABR: Because he's playing town.

How, exactly?

DrippingGoofball · Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:16 pm

In post 1465, Green Crayons wrote:PJ: I finally decided to put him under solid town after rereading D1. It's a mental roadblock to do a 180 and go ~*~ NOPE WRONG ~*~ that I would need to go and re-reread D1 to get past, barring some really scummy post yet to come.

Why don't you read Day 2? Maybe then you'll see the light and vote him.

Please explain your town read.

DrippingGoofball · Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:18 pm

In post 1466, mathcam wrote:Can someone explain this?

Glork is usually top priority for the NK.

Everyone should call him UNLYNCHABLE TOWN.

If he's still alive on Day 4 with everyone refusing to ever lynch him... he's scum!

DrippingGoofball · Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:29 am

Come on guys, we can lynch PJ.

At last he checks my town meta and blows his own case against me out of the water yet he does not unvote.

He dismissed my cases in a very dishonest way; while I do trust a small number of town reads, I did review several reads up into the town column, or in the scum column. I also specifically mentioned that while I mention some wagons are laden with my town reads, that it's a proxy measurement and I don't give these a lot of credence. More importantly, he's ignoring my basic assumption that LML was X-bus'ing because he was himself guilty of X-bus'ing.

BUT THIS is the kicker:
PJ glosses over his bizarre vote swings between ABR and myself by calling it "

unexplained

pressure" on ABR. Here is the actual quote:

In post 1470, petroleumjelly wrote:My Albert B. Rampage vote was placed a time where
I thought the (unexplained) pressure might get a semi-informative reaction from Albert B. Rampage.
I moved back to voting DrippingGoofball after reading through the latest and thinking she had the best likelihood of flipping scum.

Below is the

exquisitely detailed

explanation that PJ himself provided for his ""

unexplained

pressure" on ABR:

In post 1166, petroleumjelly wrote:
In post 1161, VitaminR wrote:Echoing KK: Can both pj and Glork explain their switch to ABR? I don't get how his Post 1144 prompted those votes.
Two reasons.

First,
the "breathe in, breathe out" commentary towards Glork's alleged "tilt" does not seem sincere or necessary. I don't like it.

And second,
Albert B. Rampage alleged he had "looked into the players bussing LoudmouthLee" and decided mathcam was the worst (and maybe CrashTextDummie), but neither of those players had voted LoudmouthLee. Even if I was charitable enough to think he
meant
Bookitty when he said LoudmouthLee, the use of the word "bus" would still be wrong unless Bookitty is also scum (which then begs the question why Albert B. Rampage is not voting for Bookitty). It suggests that Albert B. Rampage has fairly artificial suspicions given that his single sentence must be read to have
two
mistakes in order to make any sense
.

PJ is not even paying attention to his own cases, his own reasonings, he is not internally consistent and he's blindly and carelessly pushing scum agendas against townies because he's sore that he was cornered into a 1-1 against his buddies and now they are one man down already.

Come on everybody, we can do this. We can have two scums down by day 2.

DrippingGoofball · Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:39 am

If PJ flips scum, so will ABR.

DrippingGoofball · Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:57 am

In post 1479, VitaminR wrote:I'm up for lynching pj, but I don't know if enough other people are.

We don't have a eternity for opinion polls before we cast votes. If you're up for lynching him, vote him.

DrippingGoofball · Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:15 am

PJ was asked what the reason for his vote was.

He said it was an unexplained vote for pressure. ABR had already bungled, showing that he is not paying attention to the game, and Glork jumped on him. When PJ voted ABR, following Glork's leadership, he did have very specific reasons.

How about PJ trying to meta a player looking ONLY a this player's recent scum game, inflating this into a whole handful of numbered paragraphs, and not looking at any town game? Is that trying to crucify a townie because the scum is already one man down, or is it an honest scum hunting effort?

DrippingGoofball · Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:48 am

In post 1488, Sotty7 wrote:
In post 1477, DrippingGoofball wrote:If PJ flips scum, so will ABR.
Why exactly?

Contigent on PJ-scum, it looks like impulsive distancing followed by regrets and a change of course. If PJ-town, I still refuse to have a read on ABR.

What's

your

take on PJ's move, Sotty?

In post 1488, Sotty7 wrote:Do the two of you have more of history than this game?

Oh god yes.

DrippingGoofball · Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:53 am

In post 1491, Save The Dragons wrote:So if PJ is the lynch, I'd vote him.

What's this business about polling everyone before casting one's vote? Just vote, why do you need permission? VitaminR did it too, and all I can think is:

"are these professional pollsters just waiting to see that the wagon on their buddies is big enough that they'll be compelled to bus???"

You even did that for the scumLML wagon, let me jog your memory:

In post 377, Save The Dragons wrote:If later in the day we all decide to lynch LML, please, please, please don't be surprised if I jump on that wagon hardcore

You waited for the wagon on scumLML to reach a critical mass before voting. Why are you repeating this pattern for PJ? Do you only vote for large wagons? Oh wait - I notice that you are the FIRST voter on my wagon. That's interesting.

In post 1491, Save The Dragons wrote:But there's a lot of things that PJ has done that has made me go "hrrm?"

Pray tell, what has PJ done that has made you go "hrrm?" I'm VERY interested because thus far you your voiced concerns about PJ are very faint and smell of distancing more than an actual suspicion. Can you convince me that you actually suspect PJ, and not just calling him scum like a distancing cricket?

Further, with regards to players with suspicious stances on ABR & myself, you chose to focus on mathcam, and ask him the below question, let me again jog your memory:

In post 1346, Save The Dragons wrote:How likely do you think a DGB-ABR pairing is?

However with regards to this very issue you have left PJ unmolested (despite your few hints that you suspect PJ). I would like to know why you found mathcam's stance bothersome enough, but completely ignored PJ doing the same thing a lo-o-o-o-o-ot worse. Why did you choose to challenge mathcam and not PJ?

Thanks ahead for taking the time to answer my many questions.

DrippingGoofball · Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:56 am

In post 1491, Save The Dragons wrote:I want to take a closer look at matcham, MBL, and Glork but I probably won't get to all of them before the deadline.

Oh and here's another question; if you're pressed for time, why focus on these three players instead of prioritizing PJ that you claim to suspect?

DrippingGoofball · Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:18 am

Meanwhile I looked at PJ's interactions with STD. They are very few; what there is, is very neutral in tone, and very "arm's length" - mostly answering other people asking about STD, so predominantly third party interactions.

In post 1077, petroleumjelly wrote:Honestly, I don't know. I do not have a good grasp on Save the Dragons' play.

DrippingGoofball · Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:16 pm

Lots of strangeness.

DrippingGoofball · Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:21 pm

In post 1504, CrashTextDummie wrote:One thing her analysis compelled me to do is ISO PJ vis-à-vis LML and the vote counts and megabus is right if he's indeed scum. Not only was he a prominent LML voter, he was arguably instrumental in turning the tide against him in favor of BooKitty when deadline came closer. The most compelling argument I've seen against him is how completely he dismissed the "bus" slip (positing that it was actually deliberately planted) and the notion of looking for potential LML-bussers. Even if you don't think LML slipped, there's not really any doubt that he was indeed bussed to some extent and DGB is completely right that trying to downplay the bussing aspect of the LML wagon holds strong scum motivation for someone who's a potential busser himself.

<3 <3 <3

That's two hearts and a double scoop ice cream cone.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:17 am

VOTE: UT

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:24 am

In post 1544, Sotty7 wrote:
In post 1541, mathcam wrote:PJ: Why on earth did you claim so pre-emptively? I know there was a little momentum there, but only from people who will seemingly vote for anything that moves. There were at least a few of us who were pretty sold on your townliness. I'm with you on speeding up the game, but that seemed pretty drastic.
Are you serious? PJ and Undo had become the top compromise lynches and we have about four days give or take to find a lynch. If PJ got the votes off him it was likely Undo would be next. The focus needed to be shifted.

Yeah, that.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:44 am

In post 1564, Untrod Tripod wrote:it's page fucking 63 on day 2 and we've faffed about entirely too much today. I want some blood.

If it's the same to you, can it be

your

blood?

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:16 pm

@ Yosarian

Can you please compare Untrod Tripod and CES in terms of quality and quantity of "contributing nothing?"

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:12 pm

I've seen ABR very helpful and cooperative as town (sadly I was scum in that game) I would tend to think that meta'ing ABR is an even more pointless endeavor than meta'ing any other player.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:15 pm

VOTE: vote: mathcam

DrippingGoofball · Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:15 am

In post 1588, SpyreX wrote:I am not a ghost. It is extremely slow going, though. With two flips D1 is very interesting thus far though.

SCUM DETECTED

RED ALERT

PLAYER SLOT HAS SHAPESHIFTED

DrippingGoofball · Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:17 am

PJ I'm surprised you don't have a list of questions for mathcam today.

DrippingGoofball · Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:41 am

In post 1596, mathcam wrote:Do
you
have any questions for me, DGB?

Not really, I'm still bugged by you thinking ABR was an actual cop with a guilty on you, and berating me for outing him.

DrippingGoofball · Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:45 am

In post 1602, Porochaz wrote:GC, that was a truly awful case.

I know right

It reads like:

(1) something neutral
(2) something neutral
(3) something neutral
(4) something neutral
(5) something neutral
(6) something neutral

conclusion: player is scum

DrippingGoofball · Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:21 am

In post 1606, Albert B. Rampage wrote:vote VitaminR.

Are there even reasons???

DrippingGoofball · Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:19 am

Time is running out.

DrippingGoofball · Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:51 pm

In post 1230, Glork wrote:I don't think I've seen DGB simply acquiesce to being lynched as either alignment. The impression I got from her "I give up" post is that it worked for Bookie, so it might just work for her.

Quickie question. On the subject of me "giving up," how often have you seen me self-vote?

DrippingGoofball · Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:15 pm

In post 1622, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 1605, MrBuddyLee wrote: Your (3) and (6) are the same point--humor is scummy. Sue me for trying to have fun in my one game in like three years or whatever.
I heard from someone that humor represented a guilty conscience or a need to distract though.

Haha STD, that's the funniest thing anyone has said all game!

DrippingGoofball · Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:17 pm

In post 1625, Glork wrote:
In post 1621, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1230, Glork wrote:I don't think I've seen DGB simply acquiesce to being lynched as either alignment. The impression I got from her "I give up" post is that it worked for Bookie, so it might just work for her.
Quickie question. On the subject of me "giving up," how often have you seen me self-vote?
Never, and I didn't think you were truly giving up here. I felt that something else was at play, and the only basis of comparison I had that seemed relevant was Bookie's emotional post.

???
I'm the Queen, no, the Supreme Ruler of Self-Voting and I don't know why that's not my title. You have never seen me self-vote?

DrippingGoofball · Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:33 pm

Glork, mathcam is voting you admittedly out of self-preservation.

You are voting MBL who will not be lynched today. Why aren't you voting for mathcam, as you are currently 6-6?

DrippingGoofball · Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:11 am

In post 1635, MrBuddyLee wrote:I feel similarly to Sotty about the leading wagons.. not a great feeling about Glork and mathcam wagons yielding scum.

Not something a scum on with the alternative wagon to mathcam & Glork is likely to say.

DrippingGoofball · Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:18 am

Is there anyone that would shed tears if we lynched this abomination?

17) SpyreX (replacing inHimshallibe who replaced Zorblag, who replaced Natirasha, who replaced farside22)

I mean even SpyreX can't bring himself to play this slot. Five players in two days.

DrippingGoofball · Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:25 am

I still want to lynch mathcam because ABR had a "guilty" on him, although ABR himself seems to have lost his taste for mathcam blood.

But that SpyreX player slot is really starting to look like 5 players that don't want to play scum.

DrippingGoofball · Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:55 am

In post 1648, MrBuddyLee wrote:I doubt Spyrex is scum, for various reasons.

??? explain ???

DrippingGoofball · Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:07 am

In post 1654, Save The Dragons wrote:DGB: I find it interesting that you (imo, falsly) attacked VitR and myself for polling the thread about a lynch when you blatantly are doing that in 1641.

We're getting close to a deadline and the main wagons are stalling.

DrippingGoofball · Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:08 am

@ CES

Do you think STD is town?

DrippingGoofball · Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:41 am

In post 1662, Green Crayons wrote:Why are you acting incredulous about this statement, when before today you confidently asserted that slot as town.

I wouldn't say

confidently

, given the scant data. I'm interested in what MBL has to say.

DrippingGoofball · Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:06 am

In post 1664, mathcam wrote:What did you think about my earlier theory about Nat's exit post indicating that it was probably a ("boring") town slot?

That's my theory also - but after 5 replacements and now SpyreX lurking, my faith is shaken.

DrippingGoofball · Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:07 am

In post 1667, Glork wrote:I think there's a very good chance UT is scum.

That's what I've been saying but everyone calls him town.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:24 am

This does not make me happy.

Mathcam isn't going to get 6 votes in the next 2.5 hours.

VOTE: Glork

DrippingGoofball · Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:39 am

In post 1741, MrBuddyLee wrote: If there's a bus, it's:
STD on DGB

It aint' me and it's my theory that with PJ/mason, the bus is on STD.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:42 am

In post 1743, chamber wrote:Just found out my fathers in the hospital

Shoot - hope for the best.

DrippingGoofball · Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:16 am

In post 1741, MrBuddyLee wrote:Hypothesis: 2-3 of
CrashTextDummie, Cogito Ergo Sum, Bookitty, DrippingGoofball, chamber,
Save the Dragons, petroleumjelly, mathcam, Porochaz, Sotty7

I just want to point out that the odds here are slightly worse than 50-50, MBL. That's not a lot of scum in a very long list of players.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:40 am

In post 1761, chamber wrote:Do both kills feel remarkably odd to anyone else? They are very very safe.

UT smells of vig gun powder.

Thanks vig. You did your job.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:43 am

In post 1759, Save The Dragons wrote:Patrick your end of day votecount is inaccurate.

Vote: DGB
I'm still pretty sure she's going to flip red so I'm going to get right to it.

Today is your turn.

VOTE: STD

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:58 am

Oh and WOW

I'm alive Day 3?

I'm going to dust off the scumputer!

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:25 am

In post 1783, VitaminR wrote:
In post 1766, Sotty7 wrote:
In post 1758, Green Crayons wrote:
SpyreX
should post something. Something really, really good.
Spryex should die is what he should do.

Vote: Spyrex
Explain this. Seems a strange vote from you.

You know what?

That's actually a good reason to sheep it.

VOTE: SpyreX

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:29 am

In post 1785, Albert B. Rampage wrote:VitaminR is my #1, mathcam my #2, Bookitty is my #3, but if mathcam flips town, she's more likely town.

Of these three I'd lynch mathcam first, because I'm town, I thought Glork would flip town, who benefitted from the 3-way wagon, from my perspective? mathcam. Some players pushed lynches on Glork and myself to save mathcam, important after being one man down on Day 1. Scum couldn't afford losing another member. I realize I have a unique vantage point here.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:09 am

In post 1627, Patrick wrote:
DrippingGoofball
(1) -- Sotty7

Glork
(6) --
undo
, Kublai Khan,
petroleumjelly
, VitaminR, Porochaz, mathcam

CrashTextDummie
(1) -- SpyreX

undo
(1) -- chamber
MrBuddyLee (2) --
Glork
, Green Crayons
mathcam (6) --
CrashTextDummie
, Cogito Ergo Sum, Bookitty,
Untrod Tripod
, Save the Dragons,
DrippingGoofball

Cogito Ergo Sum (1) -- Yosarian2
VitaminR (1) -- Albert B. Rampage

Not voting: MrBuddyLee

In post 1734, Patrick wrote:

Glork
(7) --
undo
, Kublai Khan, VitaminR, Green Crayons, Yosarian2, Albert B. Rampage,
Untrod Tripod

CrashTextDummie
(1) -- SpyreX
mathcam (5) -- Cogito Ergo Sum, Bookitty,
DrippingGoofball, Glork
, chamber

DrippingGoofball
(6) -- Save the Dragons,
petroleumjelly
, mathcam, Porochaz, Sotty7,
CrashTextDummie

Not voting: MrBuddyLee

In post 1755, Patrick wrote:
Glork
(11) --
undo
, Kublai Khan, VitaminR, Green Crayons, Yosarian2, Albert B. Rampage,
Untrod Tripod, DrippingGoofball
, chamber,
CrashTextDummie
, mathcam
CrashTextDummie (1) -- SpyreX
mathcam (3) -- Cogito Ergo Sum, Bookitty,
Glork

DrippingGoofball (5) -- Save the Dragons,
petroleumjelly
, mathcam, Porochaz, Sotty7

Not voting: MrBuddyLee

This is just a mini scumputer because I need to leave soon for errands and I have a show to attend tonight (the

big machine

will be ON tomorrow, with all the color codes YAY). I'm just curious and I can't wait.

I chose those two wagons because they represent forks in the road for scum. Now it's possible that

mathcam

is town and I will start with this assumption for now.

mathcam

&

Glork

are 6-6. Really 5-6 because mathcam admittedly voted Glork out of self-preservation.

Then

DGB

gathers steam. There is not much scum motivation to the

DGB

wagon since

Glork

is a perfectly good town alternative, I had already claimed vanilla, except that scum might feel like it was more easily justifiable to sheep pj who can't read me for diddly squat. If I were scum floating around, I would delay voting until there was a clear winner. Ironically and unfortunately, I had to vote

Glork

myself for self-preservation. I know I'm town, and I kept my vote on

mathcam

for as long as I could.

Now, who else was putzing around? There was

MBL

, who never voted in-wagon.

chamber

but I got where he was going with his vote, and

mathcam

out of clear self-preservation but that's null >>> EXCEPT that he switched to

DGB

at some point when the

Glork

wagon was still clearly ahead to sheep

PJ

, at his own peril, but that was the safest place to park his scummy derriere??? Not conclusive.

More conclusive is

STD

, who jumped off the

mathcam

wagon onto

DGB

. If

mathcam

flips scum, look for

STD

as his buddy.

From my perspective

mathcam

wagon is 50% town. If you're

CES, Bookitty

, or

STD

, and you're town, that means the

mathcam

wagon is 66% town for you and me combined.

MBL

looks definitely bad.

mathcam, chamber

,

STD

look less good.

One of these three is surely scum because I'm pretty sure that when

mathcam

voted

Glork

, there was already one scum on the wagon,

if not two

already, which might have prompted

mathcamscum

to jump on

DGB

early:

Kublai Khan, VitaminR, Porochaz

============THESE ARE TEMPORARY RESULTS FOR YESTERDAY'S END DAY VOTES ONLY============
=====================================LOG OFF====================================

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:37 am

IN THE MEANTIME, FOR YOUR PERUSAL:

In post 32, Patrick wrote:
Seol/Bookitty (1) --
Glork

LoudmouthLee
(2) --
DrippingGoofball
,
Untrod Tripod

Tigris/Kublai Khan (1) --
LoudmouthLee

Untrod Tripod
(1) -- Save the Dragons
Cogito Ergo Sum (1) -- Seol/Bookitty

Glork
(6) -- Green Crayons, Sotty7, MafiaSSK/mathcam,
CrashTextDummie
, Cogito Ergo Sum, Porochaz
Save the Dragons (1) -- Albert B. Rampage
Green Crayons (1) -- Tigris/Kublai Khan

Not voting: chamber, MrBuddyLee,
Shanba
,
undo
,
petroleumjelly
, ReplacementCircus, VitaminR, Yosarian2
22 alive, 12 to lynch.

In post 75, Patrick wrote:

LoudmouthLee
(2) --
DrippingGoofball
, VitaminR
Tigris/Kublai Khan (6) --
LoudmouthLee
, chamber,
Glork
, MafiaSSK/mathcam, MrBuddyLee,
Untrod Tripod

Glork
(1) --
CrashTextDummie

Save the Dragons (1) -- Albert B. Rampage
MafiaSSK/mathcam (6) -- Tigris/Kublai Khan, Save the Dragons,
petroleumjelly
, Seol/Bookitty, Porochaz, Green Crayons

DrippingGoofball
(1) --
undo

Seol/Bookitty (3) -- Sotty7,
Shanba
, Cogito Ergo Sum
chamber (1) -- ReplacementCircus

Not voting: Yosarian2
22 alive, 12 to lynch.

In post 114, Patrick wrote:

LoudmouthLee
(3) --
DrippingGoofball
, VitaminR, Albert B. Rampage
Tigris/Kublai Khan (4) --
Glork
, MafiaSSK/mathcam, MrBuddyLee,
Untrod Tripod

Glork
(1) --
CrashTextDummie

MafiaSSK/mathcam (5) -- Tigris/Kublai Khan,
petroleumjelly
, Seol/Bookitty, Porochaz, Green Crayons

DrippingGoofball
(1) --
undo

Seol/Bookitty (4) -- Sotty7,
Shanba
, Cogito Ergo Sum, chamber
chamber (1) -- ReplacementCircus
VitaminR (1) -- Yosarian2

undo
(1) -- Save the Dragons
Save the Dragons (1) --
LoudmouthLee

Not voting: Nobody
22 alive, 12 to lynch.

In post 163, Patrick wrote:

LoudmouthLee
(3) --
DrippingGoofball
, VitaminR, Albert B. Rampage
Tigris/Kublai Khan (2) --
Glork
, MrBuddyLee
MafiaSSK/mathcam (5) -- Tigris/Kublai Khan,
petroleumjelly
, Seol/Bookitty, Porochaz,
CrashTextDummie

DrippingGoofball
(1) --
undo

Seol/Bookitty (5) -- Sotty7,
Shanba
, Cogito Ergo Sum, chamber, Save the Dragons
chamber (1) -- ReplacementCircus
VitaminR (1) -- Yosarian2
Save the Dragons (1) --
LoudmouthLee

Cogito Ergo Sum (1) -- MafiaSSK/mathcam

Not voting: Green Crayons,
Untrod Tripod

22 alive, 12 to lynch.

ReplacementCircus has requested replacement. I'm looking.

In post 178, Patrick wrote:

LoudmouthLee
(3) --
DrippingGoofball
, VitaminR, Albert B. Rampage
Tigris/Kublai Khan (1) -- MrBuddyLee
MafiaSSK/mathcam (5) -- Tigris/Kublai Khan,
petroleumjelly
, Seol/Bookitty, Porochaz,
CrashTextDummie

Seol/Bookitty (6) -- Sotty7,
Shanba
, Cogito Ergo Sum, chamber, Save the Dragons,
Glork

chamber (1) -- ReplacementCircus
VitaminR (1) -- Yosarian2
Save the Dragons (1) --
LoudmouthLee

Cogito Ergo Sum (1) -- MafiaSSK/mathcam

Not voting: Green Crayons,
Untrod Tripod
,
undo

22 alive, 12 to lynch.

In post 204, Patrick wrote:

LoudmouthLee
(3) --
DrippingGoofball
, VitaminR, Albert B. Rampage
Tigris/Kublai Khan (1) -- MrBuddyLee
MafiaSSK/mathcam (6) -- Tigris/Kublai Khan,
petroleumjelly
, Seol/Bookitty, Porochaz,
CrashTextDummie
,
undo

Seol/Bookitty (7) -- Sotty7,
Shanba
, Cogito Ergo Sum, chamber, Save the Dragons,
Glork
, Natirasha
VitaminR (2) -- Yosarian2, Green Crayons
Save the Dragons (1) --
LoudmouthLee

Cogito Ergo Sum (1) -- MafiaSSK/mathcam

Not voting:
Untrod Tripod

22 alive, 12 to lynch.

In post 267, Patrick wrote:

LoudmouthLee
(5) --
DrippingGoofball
, VitaminR, Albert B. Rampage,
Untrod Tripod
, Save the Dragons
Tigris/Kublai Khan (1) -- MrBuddyLee
MafiaSSK/mathcam (6) -- Tigris/Kublai Khan,
petroleumjelly
, Seol/Bookitty, Porochaz,
CrashTextDummie
,
undo

Seol/Bookitty (6) -- Sotty7,
Shanba
, Cogito Ergo Sum, chamber,
Glork
, Natirasha
VitaminR (2) -- Yosarian2, Green Crayons
Save the Dragons (1) --
LoudmouthLee

Cogito Ergo Sum (1) -- MafiaSSK/mathcam

Not voting: Nobody
22 alive, 12 to lynch.

In post 311, Patrick wrote:

LoudmouthLee
(5) --
DrippingGoofball
, VitaminR,
Untrod Tripod
, Save the Dragons, Green Crayons
Tigris/Kublai Khan (1) -- MrBuddyLee
MafiaSSK/mathcam (5) --
petroleumjelly
, Seol/Bookitty, Porochaz,
CrashTextDummie
,
undo

Seol/Bookitty (6) -- Sotty7,
Shanba
, Cogito Ergo Sum, chamber,
Glork
, Natirasha
VitaminR (1) -- Yosarian2
Save the Dragons (1) --
LoudmouthLee

Cogito Ergo Sum (1) -- MafiaSSK/mathcam

petroleumjelly
(1) -- Albert B. Rampage

Not voting: Tigris/Kublai Khan
22 alive, 12 to lynch.

In post 385, Patrick wrote:

LoudmouthLee
(3) -- VitaminR, Green Crayons, Yosarian2
Tigris/Kublai Khan (2) -- MrBuddyLee, ReplacementCircus
MafiaSSK/mathcam (5) --
petroleumjelly
, Seol/Bookitty, Porochaz,
CrashTextDummie
,
undo

Seol/Bookitty (5) -- Sotty7,
Shanba
, Cogito Ergo Sum, chamber,
Glork

Untrod Tripod
(1) --
LoudmouthLee

Cogito Ergo Sum (1) -- MafiaSSK/mathcam

petroleumjelly
(2) -- Albert B. Rampage, Save the Dragons
ReplacementCircus (2) --
DrippingGoofball
,
Untrod Tripod

Not voting: Tigris/Kublai Khan
22 alive, 12 to lynch.

Seeking a replacement for Tigris/Kublai Khan.

In post 407, Patrick wrote:

LoudmouthLee
(3) -- VitaminR, Green Crayons, Yosarian2
Tigris/Kublai Khan (2) -- MrBuddyLee, ReplacementCircus
MafiaSSK/mathcam (5) --
petroleumjelly
, Seol/Bookitty, Porochaz,
CrashTextDummie
,
undo

Seol/Bookitty (5) -- Sotty7,
Shanba
, Cogito Ergo Sum, chamber,
Glork

Untrod Tripod
(1) --
LoudmouthLee

Cogito Ergo Sum (1) -- MafiaSSK/mathcam

petroleumjelly
(2) -- Albert B. Rampage, Save the Dragons
ReplacementCircus (1) --
Untrod Tripod

Porochaz (1) --
DrippingGoofball

Not voting: Tigris/Kublai Khan
22 alive, 12 to lynch.

In post 443, Patrick wrote:

LoudmouthLee
(3) -- Green Crayons, Yosarian2,
petroleumjelly

Tigris/Kublai Khan (1) -- MrBuddyLee
MafiaSSK/mathcam (3) -- Seol/Bookitty,
CrashTextDummie
,
undo

Seol/Bookitty (4) -- Sotty7,
Shanba
, Cogito Ergo Sum, chamber

Untrod Tripod
(1) --
LoudmouthLee

Cogito Ergo Sum (1) -- MafiaSSK/mathcam

petroleumjelly
(3) -- Albert B. Rampage, Save the Dragons, VitaminR
ReplacementCircus (1) --
Untrod Tripod

Porochaz (2) --
DrippingGoofball
, ReplacementCircus
Yosarian2 (1) --
Glork

Not voting: Tigris/Kublai Khan, Porochaz
22 alive, 12 to lynch.

In post 458, Patrick wrote:

LoudmouthLee
(3) -- Green Crayons, Yosarian2,
petroleumjelly

Tigris/Kublai Khan (1) -- MrBuddyLee
MafiaSSK/mathcam (3) -- Seol/Bookitty,
CrashTextDummie
,
undo

Seol/Bookitty (4) -- Sotty7,
Shanba
, Cogito Ergo Sum, chamber
Cogito Ergo Sum (1) -- MafiaSSK/mathcam

petroleumjelly
(4) -- Albert B. Rampage, Save the Dragons, VitaminR,
LoudmouthLee

ReplacementCircus (1) --
Untrod Tripod

Porochaz (2) --
DrippingGoofball
, ReplacementCircus
Yosarian2 (1) --
Glork

Not voting: Tigris/Kublai Khan, Porochaz
22 alive, 12 to lynch.

In post 487, Patrick wrote:

LoudmouthLee
(3) -- Green Crayons, Yosarian2,
petroleumjelly

Tigris/Kublai Khan (1) -- MrBuddyLee
MafiaSSK/mathcam (2) --
CrashTextDummie
,
undo

Seol/Bookitty (4) -- Sotty7,
Shanba
, Cogito Ergo Sum, chamber
Cogito Ergo Sum (1) -- MafiaSSK/mathcam

petroleumjelly
(5) -- Albert B. Rampage, Save the Dragons, VitaminR,
LoudmouthLee
, Seol/Bookitty
Porochaz (2) --
DrippingGoofball
, ReplacementCircus
Yosarian2 (1) --
Glork

Not voting: Tigris/Kublai Khan, Porochaz,
Untrod Tripod

22 alive, 12 to lynch.

In post 516, Patrick wrote:

LoudmouthLee
(3) -- Green Crayons, Yosarian2,
petroleumjelly

Tigris/Kublai Khan (1) -- MrBuddyLee
MafiaSSK/mathcam (2) --
CrashTextDummie
,
undo

Seol/Bookitty (4) -- Sotty7,
Shanba
, Cogito Ergo Sum, chamber
Cogito Ergo Sum (1) -- MafiaSSK/mathcam

petroleumjelly
(5) -- Albert B. Rampage, Save the Dragons, VitaminR,
LoudmouthLee
, Seol/Bookitty
Porochaz (2) --
DrippingGoofball
, ReplacementCircus
Yosarian2 (1) --
Glork

Not voting: Tigris/Kublai Khan, Porochaz,
Untrod Tripod

22 alive, 12 to lynch.

In post 531, Patrick wrote:

LoudmouthLee
(3) -- Green Crayons, Yosarian2,
petroleumjelly

Tigris/Kublai Khan (1) -- MrBuddyLee
MafiaSSK/mathcam (2) --
CrashTextDummie
,
undo

Seol/Bookitty (6) -- Sotty7,
Shanba
, Cogito Ergo Sum, chamber,
Untrod Tripod
, Save the Dragons
Cogito Ergo Sum (1) -- MafiaSSK/mathcam

petroleumjelly
(4) -- Albert B. Rampage, VitaminR,
LoudmouthLee
, Seol/Bookitty
Porochaz (2) --
DrippingGoofball
, ReplacementCircus
Yosarian2 (1) --
Glork

Not voting: Tigris/Kublai Khan, Porochaz
22 alive, 12 to lynch.

In post 553, Patrick wrote:

LoudmouthLee
(3) -- Green Crayons, Yosarian2,
petroleumjelly

Tigris/Kublai Khan (1) -- MrBuddyLee
MafiaSSK/mathcam (2) --
CrashTextDummie
,
undo

Seol/Bookitty (6) -- Sotty7,
Shanba
, Cogito Ergo Sum, chamber,
Untrod Tripod
, Save the Dragons
Cogito Ergo Sum (1) -- MafiaSSK/mathcam

petroleumjelly
(4) -- Albert B. Rampage, VitaminR,
LoudmouthLee
, Seol/Bookitty
Porochaz (2) --
DrippingGoofball
, ReplacementCircus
Yosarian2 (1) --
Glork

Not voting: Tigris/Kublai Khan, Porochaz
22 alive, 12 to lynch.

In post 608, Patrick wrote:

LoudmouthLee
(2) -- Green Crayons, Yosarian2
Tigris/Kublai Khan (1) -- MrBuddyLee
MafiaSSK/mathcam (1) --
CrashTextDummie

Seol/Bookitty (9) -- Sotty7,
Shanba
, Cogito Ergo Sum, chamber,
Untrod Tripod
, Save the Dragons,
petroleumjelly
, MafiaSSK/mathcam,
undo

petroleumjelly
(5) -- Albert B. Rampage, VitaminR,
LoudmouthLee
, Seol/Bookitty,
Glork

Porochaz (1) -- ReplacementCircus

Untrod Tripod
(1) --
DrippingGoofball

Not voting: Tigris/Kublai Khan, Porochaz
22 alive, 12 to lynch.

In post 674, Patrick wrote:

LoudmouthLee
(2) -- Green Crayons, Yosarian2
Tigris/Kublai Khan (1) -- MrBuddyLee
MafiaSSK/mathcam (1) --
CrashTextDummie

Seol/Bookitty (9) -- Sotty7,
Shanba
, Cogito Ergo Sum, chamber,
Untrod Tripod
, Save the Dragons,
petroleumjelly
, MafiaSSK/mathcam,
undo

petroleumjelly
(4) -- Albert B. Rampage,
LoudmouthLee
, Seol/Bookitty,
Glork

Porochaz (1) -- ReplacementCircus

Untrod Tripod
(1) --
DrippingGoofball

Not voting: Tigris/Kublai Khan, Porochaz, VitaminR
22 alive, 12 to lynch.

In post 705, Patrick wrote:

LoudmouthLee
(3) -- Green Crayons, Yosarian2, VitaminR
Tigris/Kublai Khan (1) -- MrBuddyLee
MafiaSSK/mathcam (1) --
CrashTextDummie

Seol/Bookitty (9) -- Sotty7,
Shanba
, Cogito Ergo Sum, chamber,
Untrod Tripod
, Save the Dragons,
petroleumjelly
, MafiaSSK/mathcam,
undo

petroleumjelly
(3) --
LoudmouthLee
, Seol/Bookitty,
Glork

Porochaz (1) -- ReplacementCircus

Untrod Tripod
(1) --
DrippingGoofball

Cogito Ergo Sum (1) -- Albert B. Rampage

Not voting: Tigris/Kublai Khan, Porochaz
22 alive, 12 to lynch.

In post 736, Patrick wrote:ReplacementCircus replaces ReplacementCircus.

In post 737, Patrick wrote:

LoudmouthLee
(5) -- Green Crayons, Yosarian2, VitaminR,
petroleumjelly
, Save the Dragons
Tigris/Kublai Khan (1) -- MrBuddyLee
MafiaSSK/mathcam (1) --
CrashTextDummie

Seol/Bookitty (7) -- Sotty7,
Shanba
, Cogito Ergo Sum, chamber,
Untrod Tripod
, MafiaSSK/mathcam,
undo

petroleumjelly
(2) --
LoudmouthLee
, Seol/Bookitty
Porochaz (1) -- ReplacementCircus

Untrod Tripod
(1) --
DrippingGoofball

Cogito Ergo Sum (2) -- Albert B. Rampage,
Glork

Not voting: Tigris/Kublai Khan, Porochaz
22 alive, 12 to lynch.

In post 814, Patrick wrote:

LoudmouthLee
(6) -- Green Crayons, Yosarian2,
petroleumjelly
, Save the Dragons, Porochaz, Tigris/Kublai Khan
Tigris/Kublai Khan (3) -- MrBuddyLee,
Glork
,
DrippingGoofball

Seol/Bookitty (8) -- Sotty7,
Shanba
, Cogito Ergo Sum, chamber,
Untrod Tripod
, MafiaSSK/mathcam,
undo
,
CrashTextDummie

petroleumjelly
(3) --
LoudmouthLee
, Seol/Bookitty, VitaminR
Porochaz (1) -- ReplacementCircus
Cogito Ergo Sum (1) -- Albert B. Rampage

Not voting: Nobody
22 alive, 12 to lynch.

In post 864, Patrick wrote:

LoudmouthLee
(11) -- Green Crayons, Yosarian2,
petroleumjelly
, Save the Dragons, Porochaz, Tigris/Kublai Khan, VitaminR,
Glork
, MrBuddyLee, Seol/Bookitty,
Untrod Tripod

Tigris/Kublai Khan (2) --
DrippingGoofball
,
LoudmouthLee

Seol/Bookitty (7) -- Sotty7,
Shanba
, Cogito Ergo Sum, chamber, MafiaSSK/mathcam,
undo
,
CrashTextDummie

Porochaz (1) -- ReplacementCircus
Cogito Ergo Sum (1) -- Albert B. Rampage

Not voting: Nobody
22 alive, 12 to lynch.

I make it around 1 hour and 50 minutes until deadline.

In post 870, Patrick wrote:Final

LoudmouthLee
(12) -- Green Crayons, Yosarian2,
petroleumjelly
, Save the Dragons, Porochaz, Tigris/Kublai Khan, VitaminR,
Glork
, MrBuddyLee, Seol/Bookitty,
Untrod Tripod
,
CrashTextDummie

Tigris/Kublai Khan (2) --
DrippingGoofball
,
LoudmouthLee

Seol/Bookitty (6) -- Sotty7,
Shanba
, Cogito Ergo Sum, chamber, MafiaSSK/mathcam,
undo

Porochaz (1) -- ReplacementCircus
Cogito Ergo Sum (1) -- Albert B. Rampage

Not voting: Nobody
22 alive, 12 to lynch.

----------------------------------------------

LoudmouthLee
- Mafia Goon - lynched day 1

And with that, night 1 falls. It will last 72 hours.

In post 906, Patrick wrote:
Seol/Bookitty (1) -- chamber

petroleumjelly
(2) -- VitaminR, Save the Dragons

DrippingGoofball
(4) --
Untrod Tripod
,
petroleumjelly
, Tigris/Kublai Khan, Sotty7
MafiaSSK/mathcam (1) -- Albert B. Rampage

Not voting: Everyone else
20 alive, 11 to lynch

In post 937, Patrick wrote:

petroleumjelly
(1) -- VitaminR

DrippingGoofball
(5) --
Untrod Tripod
,
petroleumjelly
, Tigris/Kublai Khan, Sotty7, Save the Dragons
Cogito Ergo Sum (1) -- Yosarian2
MafiaSSK/mathcam (3) -- Cogito Ergo Sum, Albert B. Rampage, chamber

Not voting: Everyone else
20 alive, 11 to lynch

Opening post contained a mistake, incorrectly giving
Shanba
's role as 2 shot. I've changed it to 3 shot.

In post 1057, Patrick wrote:

petroleumjelly
(1) -- VitaminR

DrippingGoofball
(6) --
Untrod Tripod
, Tigris/Kublai Khan, Sotty7, Save the Dragons, Porochaz,
petroleumjelly

Cogito Ergo Sum (1) -- Yosarian2
MafiaSSK/mathcam (4) -- Cogito Ergo Sum, Albert B. Rampage, chamber,
DrippingGoofball

Not voting: Everyone else
20 alive, 11 to lynch

In post 1209, Patrick wrote:

petroleumjelly
(1) -- VitaminR

DrippingGoofball
(7) --
Untrod Tripod
, Tigris/Kublai Khan, Sotty7, Save the Dragons, Porochaz,
CrashTextDummie
, Albert B. Rampage
Cogito Ergo Sum (1) -- Yosarian2
MafiaSSK/mathcam (2) -- Cogito Ergo Sum, chamber

Glork
(1) -- Green Crayons

CrashTextDummie
(1) -- ReplacementCircus
Albert B. Rampage (3) --
Glork
,
petroleumjelly
,
DrippingGoofball

Not voting: MafiaSSK/mathcam,
undo
, MrBuddyLee, Seol/Bookitty
20 alive, 11 to lynch

In post 1320, Patrick wrote:

DrippingGoofball
(6) -- Tigris/Kublai Khan, Sotty7, Save the Dragons,
CrashTextDummie
, Albert B. Rampage,
undo

Glork
(2) -- Green Crayons, VitaminR

CrashTextDummie
(1) -- ReplacementCircus
Albert B. Rampage (3) --
petroleumjelly
,
DrippingGoofball
, MafiaSSK/mathcam

undo
(7) -- MrBuddyLee,
Glork
, chamber, Cogito Ergo Sum, Yosarian2, Porochaz,
Untrod Tripod

Not voting: Seol/Bookitty
20 alive, 11 to lynch

Looking for a replacement for ReplacementCircus.

In post 1357, Patrick wrote:

DrippingGoofball
(3) -- Tigris/Kublai Khan, Save the Dragons,
CrashTextDummie

Glork
(2) -- VitaminR,
undo

CrashTextDummie
(1) -- ReplacementCircus
Albert B. Rampage (3) --
petroleumjelly
,
DrippingGoofball
, MafiaSSK/mathcam

undo
(7) -- MrBuddyLee,
Glork
, chamber, Cogito Ergo Sum, Yosarian2, Porochaz,
Untrod Tripod

Untrod Tripod
(1) -- Albert B. Rampage
ReplacementCircus (2) -- Green Crayons, Sotty7

Not voting: Seol/Bookitty
20 alive, 11 to lynch

In post 1383, Patrick wrote:

DrippingGoofball
(4) -- Save the Dragons,
CrashTextDummie
,
petroleumjelly
, Green Crayons

Glork
(3) -- VitaminR,
undo
, Tigris/Kublai Khan

CrashTextDummie
(1) -- ReplacementCircus
Albert B. Rampage (2) --
DrippingGoofball
, MafiaSSK/mathcam

undo
(7) -- MrBuddyLee,
Glork
, chamber, Cogito Ergo Sum, Yosarian2, Porochaz,
Untrod Tripod

Untrod Tripod
(1) -- Albert B. Rampage
ReplacementCircus (1) -- Sotty7

Not voting: Seol/Bookitty
20 alive, 11 to lynch

In post 1402, Patrick wrote:

DrippingGoofball
(5) -- Save the Dragons,
CrashTextDummie
,
petroleumjelly
, Green Crayons, Sotty7

Glork
(4) -- VitaminR,
undo
, Tigris/Kublai Khan, Albert B. Rampage

CrashTextDummie
(1) -- ReplacementCircus
Albert B. Rampage (2) --
DrippingGoofball
, MafiaSSK/mathcam

undo
(8) -- MrBuddyLee,
Glork
, chamber, Cogito Ergo Sum, Yosarian2, Porochaz,
Untrod Tripod
, Seol/Bookitty

Not voting: Nobody
20 alive, 11 to lynch

In post 1575, Patrick wrote:

DrippingGoofball
(2) -- Sotty7, Porochaz

Glork
(4) --
undo
, Tigris/Kublai Khan,
petroleumjelly
, VitaminR

CrashTextDummie
(1) -- ReplacementCircus

undo
(1) -- chamber
MrBuddyLee (2) --
Glork
, Green Crayons
MafiaSSK/mathcam (6) --
CrashTextDummie
, Cogito Ergo Sum, Albert B. Rampage, Seol/Bookitty,
Untrod Tripod
, Save the Dragons

Untrod Tripod
(2) --
DrippingGoofball
, MafiaSSK/mathcam
Cogito Ergo Sum (1) -- Yosarian2

Not voting: MrBuddyLee
20 alive, 11 to lynch

In post 1627, Patrick wrote:

DrippingGoofball
(1) -- Sotty7

Glork
(6) --
undo
, Tigris/Kublai Khan,
petroleumjelly
, VitaminR, Porochaz, MafiaSSK/mathcam

CrashTextDummie
(1) -- ReplacementCircus

undo
(1) -- chamber
MrBuddyLee (2) --
Glork
, Green Crayons
MafiaSSK/mathcam (6) --
CrashTextDummie
, Cogito Ergo Sum, Seol/Bookitty,
Untrod Tripod
, Save the Dragons,
DrippingGoofball

Cogito Ergo Sum (1) -- Yosarian2
VitaminR (1) -- Albert B. Rampage

Not voting: MrBuddyLee
20 alive, 11 to lynch

In post 1645, Patrick wrote:Apologies, I thought I'd posted that already. It hits at 10pm GMT on Saturday 28th June.

In post 1699, Patrick wrote:

Glork
(6) --
undo
, Tigris/Kublai Khan, VitaminR, Porochaz, MafiaSSK/mathcam, Green Crayons

CrashTextDummie
(1) -- ReplacementCircus

undo
(1) -- chamber
MafiaSSK/mathcam (7) --
CrashTextDummie
, Cogito Ergo Sum, Seol/Bookitty,
Untrod Tripod
,
DrippingGoofball
, Sotty7,
Glork

Cogito Ergo Sum (1) -- Yosarian2
VitaminR (1) -- Albert B. Rampage

DrippingGoofball
(2) -- Save the Dragons,
petroleumjelly

Not voting: MrBuddyLee
20 alive, 11 to lynch

In post 1708, Patrick wrote:

Glork
(6) --
undo
, Tigris/Kublai Khan, VitaminR, Green Crayons, Yosarian2, Albert B. Rampage

CrashTextDummie
(1) -- ReplacementCircus

undo
(1) -- chamber
MafiaSSK/mathcam (6) --
CrashTextDummie
, Cogito Ergo Sum, Seol/Bookitty,
Untrod Tripod
,
DrippingGoofball
,
Glork

DrippingGoofball
(5) -- Save the Dragons,
petroleumjelly
, MafiaSSK/mathcam, Porochaz, Sotty7

Not voting: MrBuddyLee
20 alive, 11 to lynch

In post 1734, Patrick wrote:

Glork
(7) --
undo
, Tigris/Kublai Khan, VitaminR, Green Crayons, Yosarian2, Albert B. Rampage,
Untrod Tripod

CrashTextDummie
(1) -- ReplacementCircus
MafiaSSK/mathcam (5) -- Cogito Ergo Sum, Seol/Bookitty,
DrippingGoofball
,
Glork
, chamber

DrippingGoofball
(6) -- Save the Dragons,
petroleumjelly
, MafiaSSK/mathcam, Porochaz, Sotty7,
CrashTextDummie

Not voting: MrBuddyLee
20 alive, 11 to lynch

In post 1734, Patrick wrote:Votecount

Glork
(7) --
undo
, Kublai Khan, VitaminR, Green Crayons, Yosarian2, Albert B. Rampage,
Untrod Tripod

CrashTextDummie
(1) -- SpyreX
mathcam (5) -- Cogito Ergo Sum, Bookitty,
DrippingGoofball, Glork
, chamber

DrippingGoofball
(6) -- Save the Dragons,
petroleumjelly
, mathcam, Porochaz, Sotty7,
CrashTextDummie

Not voting: MrBuddyLee
20 alive, 11 to lynch

In post 1755, Patrick wrote:
Glork
(11) --
undo
, Kublai Khan, VitaminR, Green Crayons, Yosarian2, Albert B. Rampage,
Untrod Tripod, DrippingGoofball
, chamber,
CrashTextDummie
, mathcam

CrashTextDummie
(1) -- SpyreX
mathcam (3) -- Cogito Ergo Sum, Bookitty,
Glork

DrippingGoofball
(5) -- Save the Dragons,
petroleumjelly
, mathcam, Porochaz, Sotty7

Not voting: MrBuddyLee
20 alive, 11 to lynch

--------------------

Glork - Vanilla Townie - lynched day 2

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:47 am

Just eyeballing as I was working on the above.

The early Day 1 wagons on mathcam is not very green at all. But all the mathcam wagons after that initial push (bus?) have a lot of green in them.

Look at this one in particular, with almost no green in Glork's wagon.

In post 1699, Patrick wrote:
Glork
(6) --
undo
, Tigris/Kublai Khan, VitaminR, Porochaz, MafiaSSK/mathcam, Green Crayons

CrashTextDummie
(1) -- ReplacementCircus

undo
(1) -- chamber
MafiaSSK/mathcam (7) --
CrashTextDummie
, Cogito Ergo Sum, Seol/Bookitty,
Untrod Tripod
,
DrippingGoofball
, Sotty7,
Glork

Cogito Ergo Sum (1) -- Yosarian2
VitaminR (1) -- Albert B. Rampage

DrippingGoofball
(2) -- Save the Dragons,
petroleumjelly

@ CES, Bookitty, and Sotty7

, if they are town and believe I am town, can have this point of view:

CES:

ONE of Bookitty and Sotty is certainly scum.

Bookitty:

ONE of CES and Sotty7 is certainly scum.

Sotty7:

ONE of CES and Bookitty is certainly scum.

One thing is becoming clearer... mathcam was quite possibly yesterday's scum wagon. It's not impossible that we had 3 town wagons, but just eyeballing the colors is convincing.

I will do the actual math tomorrow.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:06 am

@ Bookitty: indeed it's true regardless of mathcam's alignment.

But I noticed this other wagon:

In post 1627, Patrick wrote:
DrippingGoofball
(1) -- Sotty7

Glork
(6) --
undo
, Tigris/Kublai Khan,
petroleumjelly
, VitaminR, Porochaz, MafiaSSK/mathcam

CrashTextDummie
(1) -- ReplacementCircus

undo
(1) -- chamber
MrBuddyLee (2) --
Glork
, Green Crayons
MafiaSSK/mathcam (6) --
CrashTextDummie
, Cogito Ergo Sum, Seol/Bookitty,
Untrod Tripod
, Save the Dragons,
DrippingGoofball

Cogito Ergo Sum (1) -- Yosarian2
VitaminR (1) -- Albert B. Rampage

Not voting: MrBuddyLee
20 alive, 11 to lynch

Adding this to the wagon in my post above I get:

@ CES, Bookitty, STD and Sotty7

, if they are town and believe I am town, can have this point of view:

CES:

ONE of Bookitty, STD and Sotty is certainly scum.

Bookitty:

ONE of CES, Sotty7 and STD is certainly scum.

Sotty7:

ONE of CES and Bookitty is certainly scum.

STD:

ONE of CES and Bookitty is certainly scum.

So

Sotty7 & STD

should vote from

CES, Bookitty and mathcam

. Since mathcam is looking likely scum,

Sotty7 & STD

probably have a >random chance of hitting scum (unless they're scum of course)

I badly need more calculations.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:07 am

QUESTION:

HOW MANY SCUMS ARE WE ASSUMING?

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jul 02, 2014 8:23 am

I'm going to plug in 5 scums. If it's one more or less, it doesn't matter a whole lot since I'll be dealing in proportions anyway.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:48 am

DATA INPUT

MAIN WAGONS

Glork (6) -- Green Crayons, Sotty7, MafiaSSK/mathcam,

CrashTextDummie

, Cogito Ergo Sum, Porochaz
MafiaSSK/mathcam (6) -- Tigris/Kublai Khan, Save the Dragons, petroleumjelly, Seol/Bookitty, Porochaz, Green Crayons

LoudmouthLee

(5) -- DrippingGoofball, VitaminR, Albert B. Rampage, Untrod Tripod, Save the Dragons

LoudmouthLee

(5) -- DrippingGoofball, VitaminR, Untrod Tripod, Save the Dragons, Green Crayons

petroleumjelly

(5) -- Albert B. Rampage, Save the Dragons, VitaminR, LoudmouthLee, Seol/Bookitty
Seol/Bookitty (9) -- Sotty7, Shanba, Cogito Ergo Sum, chamber, Untrod Tripod, Save the Dragons, petroleumjelly, MafiaSSK/mathcam, undo

LoudmouthLee

(12) -- Green Crayons, Yosarian2,

petroleumjelly

, Save the Dragons, Porochaz, Tigris/Kublai Khan, VitaminR,

Glork

, MrBuddyLee, Seol/Bookitty,

Untrod Tripod

,

CrashTextDummie

DrippingGoofball

(7) --

Untrod Tripod

, Tigris/Kublai Khan, Sotty7, Save the Dragons, Porochaz,

CrashTextDummie

, Albert B. Rampage

undo

(8) -- MrBuddyLee,

Glork

, chamber, Cogito Ergo Sum, Yosarian2, Porochaz,

Untrod Tripod

, Seol/Bookitty

MafiaSSK/mathcam

(6) --

CrashTextDummie

, Cogito Ergo Sum, Albert B. Rampage, Seol/Bookitty, Untrod Tripod, Save the Dragons

MafiaSSK/mathcam

(7) --

CrashTextDummie

, Cogito Ergo Sum, Seol/Bookitty,

Untrod Tripod, DrippingGoofball

, Sotty7,

Glork

DrippingGoofball

(6) -- Save the Dragons,

petroleumjelly

, mathcam, Porochaz, Sotty7,

CrashTextDummie

Glork

(11) --

undo

, Kublai Khan, VitaminR, Green Crayons, Yosarian2, Albert B. Rampage,

Untrod Tripod

, DrippingGoofball, chamber,

CrashTextDummie

, mathcam

MERGING CONSECUTIVE WAGONS WITH VOTE SHIFTS

Glork

(6) -- Green Crayons, Sotty7, MafiaSSK/mathcam,

CrashTextDummie

, Cogito Ergo Sum, Porochaz
MafiaSSK/mathcam (6) -- Tigris/Kublai Khan, Save the Dragons,

petroleumjelly

, Seol/Bookitty, Porochaz, Green Crayons

LoudmouthLee

(6) --

DrippingGoofball

, VitaminR,

Untrod Tripod

, Albert B. Rampage, Save the Dragons, Green Crayons

petroleumjelly

(5) -- Albert B. Rampage, Save the Dragons, VitaminR,

LoudmouthLee

, Seol/Bookitty
Seol/Bookitty (9) -- Sotty7,

Shanba

, Cogito Ergo Sum, chamber,

Untrod Tripod

, Save the Dragons,

petroleumjelly

, MafiaSSK/mathcam,

undo

LoudmouthLee

(12) -- Green Crayons, Yosarian2,

petroleumjelly

, Save the Dragons, Porochaz, Tigris/Kublai Khan, VitaminR,

Glork,

MrBuddyLee, Seol/Bookitty,

Untrod Tripod

,

CrashTextDummie

DrippingGoofball

(7) --

Untrod Tripod

, Tigris/Kublai Khan, Sotty7, Save the Dragons, Porochaz, CrashTextDummie, Albert B. Rampage

undo

(8) -- MrBuddyLee,

Glork

, chamber, Cogito Ergo Sum, Yosarian2, Porochaz,

Untrod Tripod

, Seol/Bookitty
MafiaSSK/mathcam (9) --

CrashTextDummie

, Cogito Ergo Sum, Albert B. Rampage, Seol/Bookitty,

Untrod Tripod, DrippingGoofball

, Save the Dragons, Sotty7,

Glork

DrippingGoofball

(6) -- Save the Dragons,

petroleumjelly

, mathcam, Porochaz, Sotty7,

CrashTextDummie

Glork

(11) --

undo

, Kublai Khan, VitaminR, Green Crayons, Yosarian2, Albert B. Rampage,

Untrod Tripod, DrippingGoofball

, chamber,

CrashTextDummie

, mathcam

END SUBROUTINE

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:52 am

DAY 1 probability of a random player being scum: 0.2272727273

DAY 2 probability of a random player being scum:
0.2

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:38 pm

# players on wagon	probability of random player being scum	# of scum on wagon if randomly distributed	# townies on wagon	# scum on wagon	# adjusted of scum on wagon if randomly distributed	# unknown alignment players	#% probability of unknown alignment player being scum	list of unknown alignment players
6	0.227	1.364	0	0	1.364	5	27%	Green Crayons, Sotty7, MafiaSSK/mathcam, Cogito Ergo Sum, Porochaz
6	0.227	1.364	1	0	1.364	5	23%	Tigris/Kublai Khan, Save the Dragons, Seol/Bookitty, Porochaz, Green Crayons
6	0.227	1.364	2	0	1.364	4	34%	DrippingGoofball, VitaminR, Untrod Tripod, Albert B. Rampage, Save the Dragons, Green Crayons
5	0.227	1.136	0	1	0.136	4	3%	Albert B. Rampage, Save the Dragons, VitaminR, Seol/Bookitty
9	0.227	2.045	4	0	2.045	5	41%	Sotty7, Cogito Ergo Sum, chamber,Save the Dragons, MafiaSSK/mathcam
12	0.227	2.727	4	0	2.727	8	34%	Green Crayons, Yosarian2, Save the Dragons, Porochaz, Tigris/Kublai Khan, VitaminR, MrBuddyLee, Seol/Bookitty
7	0.2	1.400	2	0	1.400	5	28%	Tigris/Kublai Khan, Sotty7, Save the Dragons, Porochaz, Albert B. Rampage
8	0.2	1.600	2	0	1.600	6	27%	MrBuddyLee, Glork, chamber, Cogito Ergo Sum, Yosarian2, Porochaz, Untrod Tripod, Seol/Bookitty
9	0.2	1.800	4	0	1.800	5	36%	Cogito Ergo Sum, Albert B. Rampage, Seol/Bookitty, Save the Dragons, Sotty7
6	0.2	1.200	2	0	1.200	4	30%	Cogito Ergo Sum, Albert B. Rampage, Seol/Bookitty, Save the Dragons, Sotty7
11	0.2	2.200	4	0	2.200	7	31%	Kublai Khan, VitaminR, Green Crayons, Yosarian2, Albert B. Rampage, chamber, mathcam

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:39 pm

My show tonight was cancelled BTW, the saxophonist has laryngitis. That's why I can do this now.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:43 pm

In other words, we lynch at random in this group and we hit scum

41%

of the time:

Sotty7, Cogito Ergo Sum, chamber,Save the Dragons, MafiaSSK/mathcam

We lynch at random from this group and we hit scum

36%

of the time:

Cogito Ergo Sum, Albert B. Rampage, Seol/Bookitty, Save the Dragons, Sotty7

If you're in that list of players, and you're town, then you'll hit scum 51% of the time if you lynch randomly from the other players on the top list, and 45% from the bottom list.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:46 pm

Now the remaining steps are less mathematical and a bit more voodoo, because I add up those percentages as "points" for each player in the list and I add them up.

But this time I'll try something a little more sophisticated that I've never done before. If a player is in a list that has a

less

than random chance of being scum, I will

remove

points, ie the difference. I will also add up the difference between random and calculated from known alignment players.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:51 pm

Players on wagon	points they earn
Green Crayons, Sotty7, MafiaSSK/mathcam, Cogito Ergo Sum, Porochaz	4.5
Tigris/Kublai Khan, Save the Dragons, Seol/Bookitty, Porochaz, Green Crayons	4.5
DrippingGoofball, VitaminR, Untrod Tripod, Albert B. Rampage, Save the Dragons, Green Crayons	11.4
Albert B. Rampage, Save the Dragons, VitaminR, Seol/Bookitty	-19.3
Sotty7, Cogito Ergo Sum, chamber,Save the Dragons, MafiaSSK/mathcam	18.2
Green Crayons, Yosarian2, Save the Dragons, Porochaz, Tigris/Kublai Khan, VitaminR, MrBuddyLee, Seol/Bookitty	11.4
Tigris/Kublai Khan, Sotty7, Save the Dragons, Porochaz, Albert B. Rampage	8.0
MrBuddyLee, Glork, chamber, Cogito Ergo Sum, Yosarian2, Porochaz, Untrod Tripod, Seol/Bookitty	6.7
Cogito Ergo Sum, Albert B. Rampage, Seol/Bookitty, Save the Dragons, Sotty7	16.0
Cogito Ergo Sum, Albert B. Rampage, Seol/Bookitty, Save the Dragons, Sotty7	10.0
Kublai Khan, VitaminR, Green Crayons, Yosarian2, Albert B. Rampage, chamber, mathcam	11.4

I realize some of the rows of players look very similar but in fact they are from distinctly different wagons.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:10 pm

I accidentally included some names in the wagons in the post above that shouldn't be there, but my townie count for the calculations is correct anyway.

===SCUMPUTER OUTPUT===

60.1 Save the Dragons
56.0 Sotty7
55.7 Albert B. Rampage
40.8 Seol/Bookitty
37.2 Cogito Ergo Sum
35.3 Tigris/KublaiKhan
35.1 Porochaz
33.0 VitaminR
31.8 Green Crayons
29.5 Yosarian2
18.1 chamber
18.0 MrBuddyLee
16.0 MafiaSSK/mathcam

===END ROUTINE===

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:14 pm

In post 1842, Bookitty wrote:DGB, does this take into account people not voting and people on off wagons?

It does not. It's convenient to pick out the maxwagons but it's more complicated to gather the offwagon data reliably.

HOWEVER, when later in the game you start to figure out that you've nabbed all the onwagon scum, then you can parse the offwagons, with more players flipped, fewer remaining, and more information from the extra days, it becomes easier.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:16 pm

I'll point out that it's not rare finding a scum in the cohort of timid wagoners, here:

29.5 Yosarian2
18.1 chamber
18.0 MrBuddyLee
16.0 MafiaSSK/mathcam

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:19 pm

Next step is that we should look at the players starting from the top, and pass their behavioral tells through a fine tooth comb. We might find important incriminating or innocenting information.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:45 pm

In post 1852, Bookitty wrote:Did you subtract the negative points on the final result, DGB? I'm trying to work out how you figured it.

The negative points were subtracted.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jul 02, 2014 2:04 pm

This is what I got (no formatting, takes too long)

Green Crayons 4.5454545455 4.5454545455 11.3636363636 11.3636363636 31.8181818182
Sotty7 4.5454545455 8 16 16 11.4285714286 55.974025974
MafiaSSK/mathcam 4.5454545455 11.4285714286 15.974025974
Cogito Ergo Sum 4.5454545455 6.6666666667 16 10 37.2121212121
Porochaz 4.5454545455 4.5454545455 11.3636363636 8 6.6666666667 35.1212121212
Tigris/KublaiKhan 4.5454545455 11.3636363636 8 11.4285714286 35.3376623377
Save the Dragons 4.5454545455 11.3636363636 -19.3181818182 18.1818181818 11.3636363636 8 16 10 60.1363636364
Seol/Bookitty 4.5454545455 -19.3181818182 18.1818181818 11.3636363636 16 10 40.7727272727
chamber 6.6666666667 11.4285714286 18.0952380952
Yosarian2 11.3636363636 6.6666666667 11.4285714286 29.4588744589
MrBuddyLee 11.3636363636 6.6666666667 18.0303030303
VitaminR 11.3636363636 -19.3181818182 18.1818181818 11.3636363636 11.4285714286 33.0194805195
Albert B. Rampage 11.3636363636 -19.3181818182 18.1818181818 8 16 10 11.4285714286 55.6558441558

The last value is the total.

What do you have?

DrippingGoofball · Wed Jul 02, 2014 2:21 pm

Bookitty you're right about mathcam & yourself, I have fixed my spreadsheet, thanks for double checking. I think you're wrong in actual number for mathcam though.

REVISED

60.1 Save the Dragons
56.0 Sotty7
55.7 Albert B. Rampage
47.4 Seol/Bookitty
37.2 Cogito Ergo Sum
35.3 Tigris/KublaiKhan
35.1 Porochaz
34.2 MafiaSSK/mathcam
33.0 VitaminR
31.8 Green Crayons
29.5 Yosarian2
18.1 chamber
18.0 MrBuddyLee