In post 2026, T S O wrote:case is up in next 2 days.
Please remember that your case supposedly existed (in your mind) a long long time ago,
and when it now hits the thread it really ought find the
In post 2026, T S O wrote:case is up in next 2 days.
In post 2027, T S O wrote:Tier, what are your feelings on Axle?
In post 2014, PeregrineV wrote:In post 1843, AxleGreaser wrote:That however does not stop him, refusing point blank to talk people. That rather large glaring internal inconsistency. Townies tend not to do things they despise, especially when those things are inherently scummy and anti town.
Lynch TSO Today
I've had these feelings before when playing with TSO. Yet, he somehow ends up the scum NK night1 or 2. I have yet to figure it out, but you might try pushing it once there is actual evidence or in a few game days to see if he ups his contribution.
In post 1991, Thor665 wrote:In post 1974, Slandaar wrote:I mean is it good reasoning? no, but do you think Peregrine with his experience makes this argument unless he believes it?
The thing is that he didn't want to. He tossed it out - I zeroed in on it, and he tried to re-phrase the situation.
So, no, I don't think he'd do it unless he believed it - I also don't think he believes it and didn't want to get into it and regrets tossing it in as a way to fluff up a fake read.
In post 2047, goodmorning wrote:There's a reason that we call transparency of thought process pro-Town.
In post 2051, T S O wrote:Axle, does it ever get boring when someonekeepsignoring you and you keep posting stuff to them anyway?
Because to me it looks like a handy way to look busy.
In post 2071, AxleGreaser wrote:posting stuff to them anyway?
In post 2058, Thor665 wrote:He said it in reference to the Neighborhood QTs - not a Scum QT.
In post 2083, T S O wrote:no-one gives a fuck if you vote me
In post 2085, goodmorning wrote:In post 2084, TierShift wrote:Why are you so certain in your townread on me gm?
We've just come out of that game in which you were Scum. It's rooted in that.
In post 1908, AxleGreaser wrote:In post 1856, AxleGreaser wrote:In post 1851, Garmr wrote:Because Tso is being Tso.
also I am a little intrigued.
When Aneninen said that is just Bonnskies being Boonskies he was referring to a thing that happened.
Your statement seems to be more open ended. (aka:Do you think the whole TSO filter is TSO being TSO?)
Is that an unequivocal town read by you on TSO as, TSO is being TSO?
In post 2106, Garmr wrote:In post 2097, AxleGreaser wrote:@GARMR
In post 1908, AxleGreaser wrote:In post 1856, AxleGreaser wrote:In post 1851, Garmr wrote:Because Tso is being Tso.
also I am a little intrigued.
When Aneninen said that is just Bonnskies being Boonskies he was referring to a thing that happened.
Your statement seems to be more open ended. (aka:Do you think the whole TSO filter is TSO being TSO?)
Is that an unequivocal town read by you on TSO as, TSO is being TSO?
It was meant to be used in way to see if you follow your opinion or if you were just a hypocrite. You seemed fine in annenin saying boon is boon with out saying an example yet you wanted me to use a example for tso. I was testing you to see if you would follow through with your logic. You tried a to find a way to justify why anneienn example was ok and why mine wasn't which seemed off to me.
So in short i was testing you
In post 2105, Thor665 wrote:Oh, maybe Fonz was scumhunting people by not interacting with them?
I hear that's a thing.
In post 2109, Garmr wrote:Tso has been in more of my games than any other player. If it wasn't for that jump onto the pere wagon I wouldn't of put him to null. But talking about leaks aren't you scum reading tso this gives off the impression you think his town?
In post 2109, Garmr wrote:Tso has been in more of my games than any other player
In post 2110, Aegor wrote:Votecount 1.17
[5]Aneninen:WBOCampfire1104, Muffin, TierShift, Garmr, T S O
[5]PeregrineV:Egg, Thor665, Scripten, The Fonz, Boonskiies
[4]Thor665:goodmorning, Nero Cain, flubbernugget, Izariael
[1]Egg:davesaz
[1]goodmorning:Slandaar
[1]Scripten:PeregrineV
[1]Slandaar:Aneninen
[1]T S O:AxleGreaser
[1]WBOCampire1104:Grayfoxxxx
[1]Not Voting:hephaestus
With 21 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.
Day 1 deadline:suspended
Mod Notes
Still looking for a replacement for WBOCampfire1104.
In post 2115, Garmr wrote:Also the situations you explained could also be put into play with you and tso since your certain his scum.
In post 2115, Garmr wrote:^Axles mind
In post 2115, T S O wrote:
"If you gave reasoning for doing ...well, anything, you might be of some value as Town. As it stands, nah."
In post 2117, AxleGreaser wrote:So the discussion where you show me,
that you do see (in this game) that he is playing to his meta (from previous games)
is not finished even now.
In post 2122, Garmr wrote:In post 1582, AxleGreaser wrote:In post 1460, The Fonz wrote:PV: NO! You still haven't answered the question of why you assumed insider knowledge rather than error.
"Most games this big have multiscum. So it's safe to assume it, therefore we can't rule out two players both being scum even if their interactions appear unlikely from teammates."
Give me literally ANY possible Thor thought process that makes even close to as much sense as the above and is compatible with your allegations.
I have feeling that knife cuts both ways.
Thor didn't seriously entertain the idea that PereV, might just believe that multiball was not likely and hence assuming it was a TMI thing. At least enough to have towny poke to see what happens.
Indeed why then neither of them called the other out for that.
I almost get the impression they are both scum, or they are both town and there is something about how they play mafia I don't get.
I am kinda leaning towards the latter, and want to lynch TSO, because I have no cognitive dissonance there that guy is not playing on the same team as me. .
What happened to they are both town do you think they are both scum now? Both have pretty much done nothing that would change there reads they are acting consistent.
But your interested in lynching Pere now what changed or do you think there both scum?
In post 2159, AxleGreaser wrote:In post 2122, Garmr wrote:In post 1582, AxleGreaser wrote:In post 1460, The Fonz wrote:PV: NO! You still haven't answered the question of why you assumed insider knowledge rather than error.
"Most games this big have multiscum. So it's safe to assume it, therefore we can't rule out two players both being scum even if their interactions appear unlikely from teammates."
Give me literally ANY possible Thor thought process that makes even close to as much sense as the above and is compatible with your allegations.
I have feeling that knife cuts both ways.
Thor didn't seriously entertain the idea that PereV, might just believe that multiball was not likely and hence assuming it was a TMI thing. At least enough to have towny poke to see what happens.
Indeed why then neither of them called the other out for that.
I almost get the impression they are both scum, or they are both town and there is something about how they play mafia I don't get.
I amkindaleaning towards the latter, andwant to lynch TSO,because I have no cognitive dissonance there that guy is not playing on the same team as me. .
What happened to they are both town do you think they are both scum now? Both have pretty much done nothing that would change there reads they are acting consistent.
But your interested in lynching Pere now what changed or do you think there both scum?
Axle Said Previously:I amkindaleaning towards the latter, andwant to lynch TSO,because I have no cognitive dissonance there that guy is not playing on the same team as me.
have you been reading the same thread as me?
apparently TSO is (effectively) modconfirmed unlynchable... (not even wagonable...to get some info and make him play the damn game)
so then you think I would/should... (sit in a corner and cry... )
Which bit does not make sense.
and yeah I have problems with a Thor vs PereV wagon, I have insufficient faith in Thors towniness to place any weight on his feel read of is PereV trying, treading water, or ...
I have even larger problems with TSOs approach to seemingly specifically not trying to lynch Aneninen, by stating actual reasons in the thread.
as stated it will take me some time to put my reasons in the thread. about 2 days. I am sure that is fine with you.
In post 2125, Slandaar wrote:
In post 2016, Aneninen wrote:
– I was FoS-ed in another game for using the phrase "derail a wagon" and I was town
So, you know that town can use the term derail a wagon then and yet are accusing me of using it?
In post 1969, Aneninen wrote:
In post 1965, Slandaar wrote:
In post 1961, Aneninen wrote:
(By the way, did he want to derail the PeregrineV wagon in 1932? We should remember that later!)
Yep I want to derail PV wagon.
Derail? Isn't that word used for a scum-action? To derail a wagon of a scumbuddy?
VOTE: Slandaar
In post 2154, Aegor wrote:hephaestus is being replaced. GrayFoxxxx, Nero Cain have been prodded.
Shiro replaces WBOCampfire1104 effective immediately.
In post 2164, Aneninen wrote:Hmmm... and has that claim changed your reads on Pere?
In post 646, Garmr wrote:In post 562, Boonskiies wrote:Don't push me to claim, please.
In post 572, Boonskiies wrote:I'm almost positive it's multiball. My role basically implies it.
Kinda annoyed that someone would passively role claim day 1 with only one vote on them. If it is multiball all you had to do was wait one day and you could of keeped it hidden from scum. Unless your just saying that to get some town cred but that will sort itself out in time.
UNVOTE: boon
VOTE: Aneninen
In post 2184, The Fonz wrote:I know I keep trying to read the TSO/Anen/Axle back and forth, but just get a headache very quickly and stop being able to follow it.
In post 501, PeregrineV wrote:4. Boonskiies- Probably scum
In post 2207, PeregrineV wrote:In post 2059, Scripten wrote:This sounds like a town read. I suppose that makes sense. Do you think his pushes (discounting TSO) are worthwhile?
Does he have a non-TSO push? He seems to really like TSO for scum.
In post 2215, PeregrineV wrote:In post 2189, AxleGreaser wrote:In post 501, PeregrineV wrote:4. Boonskiies- Probably scum
can you explain what came before here that made you think "probably scum"
to be clear I interpet that statement at that time to mean More likely than every body labelled less strongly, (its an early D1 read),
but I am interested in where it came from?
He had 11 posts. 1 had content (464). He also voted and unvoted 2 people, one of which he revotes.
In post 2233, T S O wrote:Peregrine's jump on Anen is awful.
However, I still want Anen dead.
What do?
In post 2243, T S O wrote:In post 2241, davesaz wrote:Hey, wait, it wasn't that bad after all. But I derped by jumping to conclusions anyway. lol
TSO -- youstillowe that case. I'm seriously considering sheeping onto your wagon for this reason.
I KNOW MY MOTIVATION IS SHOT TO SHIT TO DO IT BUT NOT DOING IT GIVES AXLE A REASON TO CALL ME SCUM
In post 2268, Muffin wrote:
The bolded "he"... is that referring to Aneninen or TSO? I have trouble following your trains of thought.
Also, is Aneninenenineneninen town or scum in your opinion?
In post 2272, Muffin wrote:thank you
In post 2277, Slandaar wrote:In post 2262, Egg wrote:And you are voting him. So you actually ARE assuming two scum teams now?
I mean that does make sense; Calling Thor scum for saying it's multiball insinuating Thor has inside knowledge. For this to hold you will start to assume multiball.
In post 1647, AxleGreaser wrote:@PereV
What is your current belief in how likely this game is to be multiball?
Why?
In post 1557, PeregrineV wrote:6. No mistake. I still believe that if there are 2 scumteams, Thor is likely scum (this was the initial thought- now that has gone up to 100% chance).
In post 2279, Slandaar wrote:To be honest assume was the wrong word; it will be considered more possible than what he would normally think which might cloud things.
I will have to look into what you said later I have thought about it but basically I need to look at the whole conversation thread.
But PV isn't an SK - the argument on Thor doesn't make sense from an SK because SK will assume one scumteam thus Thor's multiball comment doesn't look like a slip at all and there is no reason to fake scumreads as an SK.
In post 1431, Thor665 wrote:The urge to crack further jokes here is strong.
Because you got the names wrong again.
Whatevs.
In post 2285, Slandaar wrote:I think PV felt is was possible Thor 'slipped' and considered it a strong possibility that if the game is multiball Thor is scum. You don't really need to make a big deal about it as you can wait a day or two when you know if it is or isn't leaving it in a reads list is no problem.
Then Thor goes after him for it, PV produces meta showing in his experience generally this sized game isn't multiball, Thor misreps PV by saying he should include SK's in the numbers and then from there PV is obviously going to suspect Thor - I also strongly disagree it was obvious Thor was using the term multi-ball to include SK's (backs up the above)
So, yes I think PV thought Thor is scum when he was voting him/was scumhunting him.
The argument about MB I need to look at a bit but basically I thought he was mostly arguing what he assumed the setup would be based on his experience because that was really what the argument was about. As said I need to look at your conversation thread as that does look different.
In post 2290, Egg wrote:Axle, once again, I can't read spoiler tags from my phone. Please stop using them.
In post 2333, The Fonz wrote:TSO makes a couple of factually false representations of Anen's play..
In post 293, Cho wrote:Believe me, T S O can fake annoying anger. It's what helps him win scumgames.
In post 2333, The Fonz wrote:Basically it feels like their antipathy has snowballed into this perpetual motion of mutual loathing and incomprehension.
In post 426, T S O wrote:What would you grade your reading ability, out of 10? Right now it's a 3 and going down constantly.
In post 481, T S O wrote:Do I have to respond to Aneninen's posts of bad?
In post 2326, Aneninen wrote:– because I have two better ideas. I'll tell it later. Because I strongly think whatever sort of case I posted, it would be called bullshyt because of the author of the post. So, I'm waiting and reading.
In post 2341, T S O wrote:I'd love you to tell me where we've previously played together.
In post 381, T S O wrote:I don't lurk as scum.Aneninen, Cho, Egg, Thor and Pere have allseen my scumgame when it's working decently.You can ask them.
In post 2343, goodmorning wrote:Maybe the Anen wagon should move to Axle?
In post 2348, T S O wrote:In post 2339, AxleGreaser wrote:
I am happy to believe TSO gets his jollies like that, but it doesnt actually fit with my recollection of his play in the past.
Before you tell me I'm not following the game, get fucking literate. Thanks.
In post 2353, T S O wrote:it's axle
In post 2358, davesaz wrote:Can someone give me a summary of the scumread on Anen? The density is so high that I hadn't noticed that a wagon formed there, till the VC.
And I'm quite surprised to note that Axle is posting so much to/about TSO, but voting PereV.
In post 2365, T S O wrote:lots of these don't make sense.
In post 1048, AxleGreaser wrote:I will expect you to show me the stuff that you saw back then that is so bad(disgreed with) (not just that it is unarguably bad) but that you conclude for it to be that bad Aneninen must be or is quite likely to be scum, because as town he would not be that bad.
In post 2377, T S O wrote:In post 1048, AxleGreaser wrote:I will expect you to show me the stuff that you saw back then that is so bad(disgreed with) (not just that it is unarguably bad) but that you conclude for it to be that bad Aneninen must be or is quite likely to be scum, because as town he would not be that bad.
can you show me one piece of evidence from my ISO which fits this. or anyone's. doesn't even have to be this game. as long as it's not a scum qt slip or some shit.
In post 2378, TierShift wrote:YOUR ISO WILL COME TOMORROW
In post 2411, Egg wrote:Just the all black ones are impossible to read without copying and pasting and risking losing my own post.
In post 2420, Shiro wrote:
I guess best wagon is Anen. His posts seem off and coming right out of a game that he was town(even if I was maf) his post don't have the same town vibe they had there.
I don't really know how to explain this tbh. Has GM noted anything similar to that ? If I recall Tier has and he was in the same game I speak of.
In post 2434, Shiro wrote:Axl wrote: If you quote somethign and discuss it. You will either realise you are right and convince others or wrong.
I would link to the game itself but he said himself his isn't playing in the same way. I guess understable since that was a newbie game and this is a 21 people thingy