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In post 20, Kitz wrote:Currently sick, but it won't stop me from being here. Whatsup?
not much. Trying to stir up the mob to lynch wake.-
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In post 28, Cheetory6 wrote:
#include <mafiascumplayers.h>Silver wrote:All the cool kids are doing it.
void IsPlayerCool(MSPlayer Player){
----if(Player.getSocialStatus()=="cool") printf(Player.getName() + " is really cool!");
----else printf(Player.getName() + " is worth being voted for.");
}
int main(){
----MSPlayer Cheetory6;
----MSPlayer SilverWolf;
----Cheetory6.setSocialStatus("cool");
----SilverWolf.setSocialStatus("D1 lynch");
----isPlayerCool(Cheetory6);
----isPlayerCool(SilverWolf);
----return 0;
}
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Cheetory6 is really cool!
SilverWolf is worth being voted for.
Ok C. If you insist.
VOTE: SilverWolf
Someone let me know if I missed any bugs.
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In post 37, Grib wrote:VOTE: SilverWolf
Good news, guys! Itotallyrolled town this game.
Also, I'm on V/LA until Tuesday. Boo procrastination, boo homework.
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In post 61, Kitz wrote:In post 56, Wake1 wrote:I don't like this kitz bastard.
Anyone who sounds like a candy bar cannot be trusted.
Cool, someone fired a shot by calling me a bastard.
I don't want to be associated with the crime of sounding like a candy bar for no reason, let alone by a guy who sound half asleep.
How can we trust a guy that sound half asleep, mhhh~?
by waking him up.-
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In post 66, Aeronaut wrote:This game's is too polite
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In post 88, vikingfan wrote:In post 52, Wake1 wrote:
In post 36, SilverWolf wrote:
Yet, you don't vote for him. Why?
Because we got, what, 13 days? So, yeah, I'm not sure how paranoid you're feelin', but when I said "hey, let's nail this guy for buddying me," it means "hey, let's vote this guy off for buddying me in one post." Day's over folks. We've all made up our minds about vikingfan. Board up your house and say a prayer VF, 'cause we're coming for ya.
Well, no. I'm just stirring up reactions and discussion to see what happens. Little stuff here and there. Of course, I could just take a siesta and wait for something worthwhile to discuss pop up. Hrm, that sounds good right about now, considering I've been caring for brain-damaged people all day long. *Is bitching*
I don't really feel like voting for him right now, though I do wanna see a wagon on him form. Kinda like when you drop a plump goldfish into a piranha tank and sit back with a bag of candied almonds and scotch. I'm thinking you're smart and will lap up my heartfelt suggestion and see to it that VF meets his ultimate demise today. I mean, he really is a dastardly fellow who deserves all the scorn he gets from this point on. In fact, I might not even have to vote him, and let the rest of my Town minions do my work for me.
But I DO want to vote. Honestly I do, I do!
...but onmyterms.
This reads purely like an attempt to elicit a reaction from me, so no thank you, not going there.
I can get on board with a TSO wagon since he's obviously lurkingunvoteVOTE: tso
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In post 96, Aeronaut wrote:Ok. Let's generate discussion
@Everyone: what's the biggest flaw in your towngame? Your scumgame?
I get lynched-
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In post 99, Aeronaut wrote:I mean, I guess that's a pretty big flaw
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In post 105, Aeronaut wrote:I just only draw town, always, all the time, so you should assume as such
That makes me think it's the opposite. Especially when you are buddying wolf right after she says she is susceptible-
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In post 113, SilverWolf wrote:Wake-Don't you know who dragonspawn is?
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In post 117, Wake1 wrote:This playerlist is the opposite of suck. Let's keep it that way.
So the playerlist is blow?
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In post 130, Cheetory6 wrote:I like my vote. Silver's all like "look at me guys I'm proactive" and I'm all like "bish ur so fakn it gg get wrekd".
Elusive seems town.
I like the vibes from this game thus far. Might make being in too many games at once less of a pain.
What makes her posts look lovely?Grib wrote:Hi SilverWolf! Your posts are looking especially lovely today.
At least buy him dinner first. Jeeze.Wake wrote:Let's nail this guy for buddying me.
for(int i=0;i<4;i++){dragonspawn wrote:you totally took the cool out of voting with that program.
--printf("you make me sad and I hate your guts\n");
}
Output:
"you make me sad and I hate your guts"
"you make me sad and I hate your guts"
"you make me sad and I hate your guts"
"you make me sad and I hate your guts"
Town - I get mad.Aero wrote:@Everyone: what's the biggest flaw in your towngame? Your scumgame?
Scum - I pretend to get mad.
Is your V/LA actually secretly flu-related?klingon wrote:Weird fact: I usually draw Scum when I have the flu.
Like I said earlier, I tend to piss people off. This is one example.
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In post 135, Wake1 wrote:In post 134, dragonspawn wrote:
Like I said earlier, I tend to piss people off. This is one example.
Wolf is town. She's easy to read.
You sure she's not emulating?
She's got more than a few games under her belt, yanno.
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In post 136, Cheetory6 wrote:What would you be expecting from scumSilver right now?
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In post 140, Klingoncelt wrote:In post 130, Cheetory6 wrote:
klingon wrote:Weird fact: I usually draw Scum when I have the flu.
Is your V/LA actually secretly flu-related?
No it's really the computer. Mechanical, not viral.
SW's Town, btw. Totally her Town game.
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In post 144, Cheetory6 wrote:Is her typical scumgame really that awful? o.o
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In post 145, Shinobi wrote:What are we waiting for? Pile votes onto TSO.
Let's go.
@Dragonspawn: Your needless obtuseness has been noted.
I am so getting lynched at this rate lol.
unvote
vote: shinobi
I really don't like being told what to do. And per my earlier discussion with wake it seems like this is a good way to get more info to analyze.-
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In post 154, Cheetory6 wrote:Is Shinobi a Thor alt?
I'm getting nightmares of my first game on this site.
I'm wary of people being so confident in meta this early on in the game
Has Silver really said enough at this point for the three of you to be so confident in her being town? Is what I'm reading as forced tone come across as playstyle or what?
Also, when's the last time that the three of you have played with her?
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In post 158, Shinobi wrote:In post 150, dragonspawn wrote:In post 145, Shinobi wrote:What are we waiting for? Pile votes onto TSO.
Let's go.
@Dragonspawn: Your needless obtuseness has been noted.
I am so getting lynched at this rate lol.
unvote
vote: shinobi
I really don't like being told what to do. And per my earlier discussion with wake it seems like this is a good way to get more info to analyze.
How exactly do you intend to lynch mafia if you're not going to listen to other people? Are you intending to just come up with every single case on scum yourself or what?
I'm genuinely asking. I've never heard of a mafia player who just "doesn't like being told what to do" because that's just needlessly obtuse. I don't even think it's scummy. I just think it's bad.
What exactly am I responding to?
whose being obtuse? I didn't say I wouldn't listen and consider someone's position. People persuade me all the time. I'm a very big proponent of the free exchange of ideas and services, though I suppose that is more life than the game itself.
but you aren't trying to persuade me. You're commanding me and everyone else to join your crusade against Tso.
I get it. He's not doing a thing. But that doesn't mean you get to tell me to vote for him and expect me to react positively to you or not make me suspicious that you are simply trying to push an easy lynch.-
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In post 173, Klingoncelt wrote:
Anti-virus, actually. The program's not functioning right. Their help desk is open during my sleep period (I'm not a daywalker,) so getting it fixed could take a few evenings.
You're a vampire?
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In post 175, Shinobi wrote:Oh.
No, it's not necessarily a "crusade" against TSO for not doing a thing; rather, he's a player I'm intending to focus on during this day. I've played with him three times and townread him in every game I played with him. He was mafia in two of those games. I have absolutely no idea how to read him properly so I want to start pressuring him out of the gate to see what he does when the spotlight on him early.
Sure, his not posting while he should be posting bothers me, but that's not why I'm doing what I'm doing. If this is how you intend to handle my TSO pressure, then I'm perfectly okay with that.
I don't have a problem with you pressuring him at all. I have a problem with you telling the rest of us we need to.-
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In post 192, Shinobi wrote:In post 189, dragonspawn wrote:In post 175, Shinobi wrote:Oh.
No, it's not necessarily a "crusade" against TSO for not doing a thing; rather, he's a player I'm intending to focus on during this day. I've played with him three times and townread him in every game I played with him. He was mafia in two of those games. I have absolutely no idea how to read him properly so I want to start pressuring him out of the gate to see what he does when the spotlight on him early.
Sure, his not posting while he should be posting bothers me, but that's not why I'm doing what I'm doing. If this is how you intend to handle my TSO pressure, then I'm perfectly okay with that.
I don't have a problem with you pressuring him at all. I have a problem with you telling the rest of us we need to.
I'm not telling you we need to. I'm asking you to help me out because I think this is a good course of action.
At the very least, it's better than talking about vampires.
In post 191, Aeronaut wrote:In [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/fcorum/viewtopic.php?p=6591285#p6591285]post 188[/url], Shinobi wrote:In post 168, Shinobi wrote:Because, uh, it looks okay and I can see how you think those things.
Eh
Still more than you've given in regards to that post, ftr.
Vampires can tell you more than you realize-
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In post 199, Klingoncelt wrote:In post 196, FA_Q2 wrote:
In post 159, SilverWolf wrote:
dragonspawn has played with me many times off-site as well as Klingon and House.
House has played with me many times onsite here as well.
House and Klingon both just got out of a game with me where I was scum and they were town.
Aero and Grib have not played with me off-site but onsite here in a few games.
Wake has played with me a couple times.
Anyhow, here's the game where I was scum and House and Klingon were town.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=60334
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Are they over at US as well? Who are they? I didn't think there were so many of us over here.
Hi, FA, I'm Grandma.
We have found a witch. May we burn her?
Just teasin-
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Don't be we will be at each other's throats before too long.-
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In post 223, T S O wrote:I forgot this game existed. My men, I'll forgive you by personally digging the graves for the dead bodies of scum after I lead the charge in hanging them.
Let's get down to business.
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In post 253, SilverWolf wrote:I don't especially like TSO's entrance into this game at all and I'm perfectly fine with my vote where it is.
it does seem like alot more effort than I usually see when I'm in a game with him but who knows at this point.-
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In post 275, FA_Q2 wrote:In post 252, dragonspawn wrote:Btw at this point I'm getting a scum vibe from shinobi and Viking. Town for wolf and wake. Null for everyone else so far.
Scum/town vibe absent any reasoning makes me think YOU are scum. Care to explain where the 'vibes' are coming from?
Gut calls at this point. For the most part. I've explained my reasoning with wolf already.
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In post 343, SilverWolf wrote:In post 335, Wake1 wrote:
I do have initial feelings regarding certain players, but you practically demand that I vote yet will undoubtedly scoff at the feelings behind the reasoning for said vote. You probably want me to vote in order to pick apart and attack it, which in itself is disingenuous, and further makes me want to choose my actions wisely, because I like to have solid reasoning behind each and every one of my actions in general. If I felt your intentions were honest, that you wanted to know who I'd vote for without also planning to attack it, I'd be more inclined to do so.
WTF is up with this? I don't even know what to say to this. You don't want anyone to question your vote? I wasn't planning on attacking you Wake.
TSO picked apart my vote on him twice and said he didn't like it. Cheetory didn't like the tone of some of my posts and said so. Do you see me freaking out and squeezing a stress ball in the corner? Well, if I was squeezing a stress ball you wouldn't see it but just visualize it Wake.
I'm not sure what this is all about. I want to say townie paranoia but I'm not wanting to townread this behavior or call it scummy. Maybe just null for now and keep an eye on it.
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In post 342, Wake1 wrote:Scarcity creates value.
It applies to gold and virtually everything else.
How much power does the player who votes tens or hundreds of times in a game have?
problem is you aren't creating scarcity. You are still talking. You just aren't giving substance.
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In post 363, House wrote:I suppose that's possible, I found more meaning in the content of his post than the subject of it.
you are being way too friendly this game house.
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In post 375, FakedBlogger wrote:Why wasn' tit vote-worthy?
watch the language. We have ladies present. And put some pants on.-
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Looks like the Viking wagon id picking up. As he is one of my gut scum reads at the moment in going to jump on and see if more pressure will shake something free from him.dragonspawn wrote:In post 363, House wrote:I suppose that's possible, I found more meaning in the content of his post than the subject of it.
you are being way too friendly this game house.
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Interesting. It's. A fos, then I vote for Viking and it becomes a vote. What changed? Am I voting for your partner?-
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In post 400, Boonskiies wrote:In post 393, dragonspawn wrote:
Looks like the Viking wagon id picking up.dragonspawn wrote:In post 363, House wrote:I suppose that's possible, I found more meaning in the content of his post than the subject of it.
you are being way too friendly this game house.
fosAs he is one of my gut scum reads at the moment in going to jump onand see if more pressure will shake something free from him.
VOTE: viking
This is really scummy to me. You felt the need to defend your gut read instead of trying to explain why it could possibly be a gut read?
So it's scummy for me to vote for someone I've already said I think is scum?
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In post 402, pisskop wrote:the
So it's scummy for a pressure vote on a suspected scum now? Because I said it was for pressure?
You must be really pushing to vote for the people who were on the tso wagon then.
I already told you Viking was a gut call. There are plenty of reasons to vote for him at this point. My reason is trusting my instincts-
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In post 411, pisskop wrote:In post 405, dragonspawn wrote:In post 402, pisskop wrote:the
So it's scummy for a pressure vote on a suspected scum now? Because I said it was for pressure?
You must be really pushing to vote for the people who were on the tso wagon then.
I already told you Viking was a gut call. There are plenty of reasons to vote for him at this point. My reason is trusting my instincts
I didn't say you can't pressure vote. Why are you telling your pressure vote that you're pressuring them?
. And I was voting TSO until just recently. Why do you think I was voting those we were on the TSO wagon?
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This is a terrible reason for a vote.
FoS: pisskop
Boons and Aero's votes were fine.
What was bad about my reason for voting dragon?
considering you guys made it clear you were voting for tso to pressure him until he stopped lurking.
why wouldn't I tell someone I'm voting for someone to pressure them? I have nothing to hide.-
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In post 416, vikingfan wrote:Back as promised . I find a lot of interaction, especially the buddying with SilverWolf extremely interesting and have noted it for future reference in future days. As for who I find scummy:
I'm going to note the wagon on dragonspawn first. First of all there was an attempt to elicit a reaction on my part which he simply voted on because I reacted, whereas I'm sure if I'd just ignored the whole attempt to elicit a reaction would have been found scummy too in terms of ignoring it. So that became a no-win situation because there would be a reaction of some sort, which I found interesting.I find Grib's post about being on V/LA until Tuesday in post 37 very interesting because he also noted v/la due to homework and there was zero bussing as a result of that yet my post about having real-life things as well was found scummy so I am noting the selective criteria being used for future reference.also, dragon spent a lot of posts defending silverwolf and very little on anyone else.
I find tso's defense fine for now. so UNVOTE: tso VOTE: dragonspawn
BTW, I have never played with anyone in this game so using meta is useless in my case so I'm not going to use that to try to read other people. I will say that I tend to play as much as possible exactly the same whether town or scum.
Was rereading your posts and a few others and something about this one stood out. I've bolded the portion. You're claiming people are bussing you. You can only be bussed if you are scum. And you can only be bussed by fellow scum.
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In post 438, T S O wrote:dragonspawn, what answer do you expect from 436? The only way it's valid is if he and Grib are scumpartners and other scum didn't vote Grib... rather unlikely.
I want some sort of explanation. It doesn't make sense. Because as you said it is unlikely. Hence why I'm asking. I can't get an understanding of what's going on in vikings head if I don't ask questions on things that bother me can I?
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In post 439, House wrote:
It was either him or you. Fortunately for you, I place more stock in the reads of others than I do my own.
We'll see how it pans out.
Oh that's not what I found interesting.
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In post 442, House wrote:In post 441, dragonspawn wrote:In post 439, House wrote:
It was either him or you. Fortunately for you, I place more stock in the reads of others than I do my own.
We'll see how it pans out.
Oh that's not what I found interesting.
I'm starting to think you are prob town but I'm not totally sure.
Why are you even leaning that way?
You never even consider the possibility that I'm town.
Starting to wonder if I made the right choice. <_<
I quoted the post that was pushing me that direction.
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In post 457, FakedBlogger wrote:It makes him scum because he himself listed defensiveness as a possible scumtell. Along with that OMGUSy post we've got ourselves a good Day1 lynch.
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In post 463, FakedBlogger wrote:In post 460, House wrote:(Psst: dragonspawn is certifiable lynchbain. Hence my reluctance to join his wagon despite my own interest in voting for him)
Atm viking looks more like lynchbait to me.
In post 462, dragonspawn wrote:In post 457, FakedBlogger wrote:It makes him scum because he himself listed defensiveness as a possible scumtell. Along with that OMGUSy post we've got ourselves a good Day1 lynch.
where did I list defensiveness as a scum tell?
#398 At least that's how I read it in context.
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In post 464, House wrote:In post 463, FakedBlogger wrote:In post 460, House wrote:(Psst: dragonspawn is certifiable lynchbain. Hence my reluctance to join his wagon despite my own interest in voting for him)
Atm viking looks more like lynchbait to me.
Which supports a D1 viking lynch.
If he flips scum, it will ease my mind considerably about dragonspawn, because scum simply chose an easy target to draw heat away from their buddy.
If he flips town, it will get rid of a distraction and allow us to look for the actual scum instead of argue throughout the game.
Barring a player posting, "Hai guyz, I iz scumlol", viking's lynch is the most useful.
Not a bad plan. What if we are both town?-
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In post 474, SilverWolf wrote:In post 468, House wrote:In post 467, SilverWolf wrote:In post 454, acryon wrote:
That being said, my vote is still on vikingfan, because his posts have looked much worse than dragon's. I've got an FoS on dragon though.
In post 452, SilverWolf wrote:
I'm still trying to figure out why he's scummier than vikingfan.......................
Yeah, he isn't.
So looking at the votes:
Boon was the first to vote dragon
Pisskop sheeps Boon’s reason
Grib adds to vikingfan
Aero adds to dragon for the same reason as Boon and pisskop
Vikingfan jumps on dragon
Klingon places his vote for vikingfan (although the intent was clearly there already)
House jumps on, stating he is sheeping
Kitz jumps on vikingfan for disliking the way he addressed the dragon wagon (which has a nice ring to it
Nakedjogger jumps on dragon for being defensive
Giving us the following VC for those two (pretty sure):
vikingfan: acryon, SilverWolf, dragonspawn, Grib, Klingon, House, Kitz [L-4]
Dragonspawn: Boonskiies, Pisskop, Aeronaut, vikingfan, Nakedjogger [L-6]
The dragonspawn wagon certainly smells like a counterwagon to a scum wagon. If it is, I suspect Aeronaut the most on the counterwagon (and of course vikingfan). Came in third on the wagon only after it clearly had a little traction and just sheeped Boon's reasoning (which isn't bad in and of itself, but it's hard to tell if Aero had his own reasons).
I completely agree with this analysis. vikingfan's lynch would be most informative because if he flips scum, we can look at the votes on dragon's wagon like Aero and pisskop more closely. If he flips town, dragon would be a good D2 vote.
But would scum vote for their buddy to stay off a mislynch wagon?
I don't think so.
No, If vikingfan is scum, then dragon is more likely to be town with scum on his wagon. If he's town, then the votes on dragon are not as suspect.
I tend to agree. If Viking is scum it's unlikely a counternwagon would start on another scum.-
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