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This game boils down to
(Okay X Y Z is claiming to have a gun so some scum has to be there if we find it the others are clear)
(There's also scum in A B C so if we lynch there the rest are clear)I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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If I'm scum I live for at most one more day yes? So you're just going to openly mislynch me instead of going for at least one other scum out there.In post 3583, zMuffinMan wrote:
actually, rather than tell you you're wrong, just ask mariar to explain what this part meantIn post 3475, MariaR wrote:I know I'm town at most I live for one more day
From my point of few Kat is fake claiming because for some reason he dislikes me enough to outright spite fake claim a guilty on my slot that's pretty low I left for a day to consider...well no comment.
The point here is even if you think I'm scum lynching outside me is better regardlessI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Do what you wish I'm honestly drained and don't really care for the outcome of this game due to the events that happened.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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I honestly thought he was fake claiming because he just wanted me out of the game so I took a break from the threadIn post 3590, zMuffinMan wrote:IF cupcake is fake-claiming, it has nothing to do with spiteI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Well that's not what I thought at the time but it seems he's gonna keep this up until the end.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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So kat really did fake claim a guilty just to get me out of the game. Alright I don't know what I did to be so unenjoyable to do that but I'm sorry to anyone that I upset this game because that was never my goal to upset anyone. I just wanted to play mafia like the rest of yall. I'll try to get back in this game but the whole thing with Kat sucked my energy coming into this and that sucks cause fg games are my fav if you got questions please ask I like having back and forths and it'll help me. I'm prob going to join the prof wagon but I'm taking a bit to recollectI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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How can I believe anything but this when I know I'm town and Kat is claiming a god dam guilty on me and not retracting it?In post 3668, Spiffeh wrote:
I have a REALLY hard time believing Maria actually felt that wayIn post 3594, MariaR wrote:I honestly thought he was fake claiming because he just wanted me out of the game so I took a break from the thread
Especially when she's seen how Katsuki interacted with Dunnstral who he genuinely seems to dislikeI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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I don't want to make the game unfun for anyone because that's what mafia is. For fun but just blahI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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That's totally fineIn post 3691, Sakura Hana wrote:
Disclaimer that i dont think you're unenjoyable I just think you're scumIn post 3681, MariaR wrote:Alright I don't know what I did to be so unenjoyable to do that but I'm sorry to anyone that I upset this game because that was never my goal to upset anyone.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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We need everyone to claim if they have guns or not and then we check and conf said result. Can we get a list going?I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Prof friday's iso along with how ank's been playing feels strongly like scum trying to take advantage of a result gone wrong and when I flip town he turns on Katsuki or playing clueless the only question is he's not a main character and with the poisoner likely being a main char it's ???I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Kokichi's flip on me is super super sus and I would most likely lynch him today if I had my chance in gunsmithsI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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He went from saying "Maria is prob town" To saying "I wouldn't mind Maria flipping" after the guilty was shown fake it makes me think he wanted cred by calling me town while the others lynched me. Perhaps Prof friday is town and Kokichi was gonna line up his lynch for after my flip?I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Hammer me then.In post 3724, Kokichi Oma wrote:
You should be a comedianIn post 3720, MariaR wrote:Kokichi's flip on me is super super sus and I would most likely lynch him today if I had my chance in gunsmithsI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Dunn honestly you're the only one who knows the answer and they're gonna call you bias.
It's draining and it's shitty I really don't mind I can try my style a dif gameI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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This is so wrong LOL Kokichi scumreads me every gameIn post 3732, Sakura Hana wrote:Kokichi's a person that has had accuracy reading MariaR, i do think tho that finding the poisoner is very important coz it increases the KPN in favor of scum.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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The last game I remember you not auto scumreading me was the mini clown game. I srsly can't not remember another game. If you want to prove me wrong by all means.In post 3750, Kokichi Oma wrote:
This isn't true. Sometimes I might say it to get a reaction out of you though. Unless I'm like leading on you, I don't scumread you. Figured you knew this by now.In post 3735, MariaR wrote:
This is so wrong LOL Kokichi scumreads me every gameIn post 3732, Sakura Hana wrote:Kokichi's a person that has had accuracy reading MariaR, i do think tho that finding the poisoner is very important coz it increases the KPN in favor of scum.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Because I townread Nancy it has nothing to do with who I know and who I don't know you're missing the point it isn't about who I'm familer with it's who I trust. And I trusted NancyIn post 3790, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
We have never played together before. I see your point. Kokichi asking me a very similar type of question, makes way more sense based on this.In post 3787, Moment wrote:Sure. I think I'll be doing this in pieces, both because I've been feeling less verbose lately and because I think it'll just be easier to digest.
It began back with her strange focus on Nancy Drew early in the game.
Spoiler: Pocketing?
I still don't think it's true that Maria was trying to bounce ideas off of Nancy or anything of the sort. Also, looking back, I have to wonder; why Nancy in specific? I would imagine there would be other people in this game that Maria could have asked to get ideas off of; people she may have more history with.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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You're using the logic of pocketing why would I pocket someone I don't know compared to someone I do. It doesn't make sense at allI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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"I have no reason to interact with a mylo wagon"
Okay first before I answer that. What do you think is a reason to interact with a wagon in a game of mafia.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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There are easier people to pocket IE people I know how to play aroundIn post 3800, Moment wrote:
Actually, what makes you think Nancy Drew is hard to pocket? I'm not debating whether or not she is, I just want to know what makes you think that she is.In post 3795, MariaR wrote:If I was going to pocket someone I would pocket someone that's easy to pocket.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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can see thisIn post 3953, MathBlade wrote:
Absolutely not.In post 3897, Sakura Hana wrote:Considering how Poisoner increases scum KPN, then poisoner should be the scum's main character, hence why the flavor claims.
This is really false.
Scum are likely Kokichi and Sakura
You’re welcome
ohIn post 3955, MathBlade wrote:
I am a main character and town.In post 3954, Sakura Hana wrote:Well that's as close to a scum claim as it gets, considering it wasnt even me who suggested some sort of flavor claiming, I just figured out the why due to how these games usually have 2 town MCs and 1 scum MC.
Your theory is based on giving people what they want versus what they need.
My flavor is partially in the first postI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Leashing the poison doesn't sound like a bad idea but if math poisons scum can't scum just fake claim they weren't poisoned.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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oh you're right I'm dumbIn post 3981, Wisdom wrote:they will still die so doesnt matter @mariaI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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I don't see why scum math claims there when we were lynching me then Prof plus we can leash the poison.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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I need to think of a "if math is a town main char and scum knew main chars were all town they'd obv push the angle to lynch it right so who's doing that."
In post 4000, Sakura Hana wrote:Quite interesting that Brian is Non consec Doc, but Math is an odd night poisoner.
In post 4007, Sakura Hana wrote:In any case:
Minuet's Trio: 1 scum MC, 2 Town MC.
Queen of Hearts: 1 scum Alice, 2 Town Alices.
Nightingale's Tale: 1 scum Alice, 2 Town Alices.
Through the Looking Glass: 1 scum Alice, 2 Town Alices.
By virtue of the Alices/MCs in games they are the strongest PRs, so for balance one needs to be scum and two town or either side is gonna be overpowered.
I do NOT believe for a second that Math is a town MC.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Plus if they are. They're locked into a claim where we can leash them right? I see no down sideI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Sakura's pushes don't make sense as town but make plenty of sense as scum. There's always an excuse in her votes. "Cop guilty" "you're still scum even if I can't read you" "I don't think Math is town mc" always an excuse lined up with the reason
Pedit: How if you believe math that means scum are 2 non main characters.
Also if you believe math we're in the same spot as beforeI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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AndIn post 4037, Sakura Hana wrote:For me to be scum i'd have to be a poisoner, so you'd have to believe I poisoned Katsuki over muffin.
Pedit: Why aren't you voting math thenI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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my point is provenIn post 4060, Sakura Hana wrote:I believe you're a main that's why im lynching you.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Yes because in a 3v14 scum game we should have a definite way to find scum!In post 4064, Kokichi Oma wrote:For the record, if you think of setup balance there is no current way to find Poisoner as is right now. Only way would be for scum poisoner to be a main character and being count down (considering Kat's cop ability was very bad as he said)I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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In post 4079, Sakura Hana wrote:
You mean like the Tracker Watcher from Minuet's Trio?In post 4077, MariaR wrote:
Yes because in a 3v14 scum game we should have a definite way to find scum!In post 4064, Kokichi Oma wrote:For the record, if you think of setup balance there is no current way to find Poisoner as is right now. Only way would be for scum poisoner to be a main character and being count down (considering Kat's cop ability was very bad as he said)
yes exactly and you don't think fakegod went "hey hang on that was a bit op" let's nerf that a little!In post 4081, Sakura Hana wrote:Oh and the weak friendly neighbor from the same game too!I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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I don't see what's so wrong in leashing math. We've played a game where there were 3 alice town pr's before (masons yes)In post 4085, Sakura Hana wrote:
yeah the MCs have been nerfed i dont think the town:scum MC ratio was changed tho. since MCs are STILL the strongest PRs.In post 4083, MariaR wrote:yes exactly and you don't think fakegod went "hey hang on that was a bit op" let's nerf that a little!I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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oh you're rightIn post 4092, Sakura Hana wrote:
Really? Which one? Daughters isnt Alice game you know.In post 4090, MariaR wrote:I don't see what's so wrong in leashing math. We've played a game where there were 3 alice town pr's before (masons yes)I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Idk guys I feel like having leashed killing power is pretty good to me I like having more than 1 lynch where if math is scum has to poison someone of our choosing but sure go nutsI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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The dif is we pick who said kill is because whoever we're picking we assume we'd have lynched at one point so it saves us a lynch and gives mafia less choices of night kill and poe.In post 4099, Sakura Hana wrote:
Remember the argument i made when i thought you were the scum poisoner.In post 4097, MariaR wrote:Idk guys I feel like having leashed killing power is pretty good to me I like having more than 1 lynch where if math is scum has to poison someone of our choosing but sure go nuts
It's literally just letting a scum slot live so they can do a 2x kill again.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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scum had a vig
town had a vig
what's to say poisoner can't be the same thing if we're assuming scum in gunsmithsI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Perhaps scum have a x-shot poisoner? That'd make senseIn post 4114, Sakura Hana wrote:
they werent MC.In post 4108, MariaR wrote:scum had a vig
town had a vig
what's to say poisoner can't be the same thing if we're assuming scum in gunsmiths
If you agree that Poisoner is something MC level (which should be if you believe Math), then there's no way there's another poisoner, which means pmatt poisoned Katsuki.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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I was around to hammer but Brawl asked to do it himselfIn post 4125, MathBlade wrote:
N2 cross wagon simple cross reference:In post 3093, FakeGod wrote:
Myloninja13 [9] - Sakura Hana, Brian Skies, Moment, Nosferatu, Spiffeh, Purrcocet, Katsuki, Wisdom, zMuffinMan [LYNCH]
Overlap is Muffin,Brian, Purr, Sakura, Spiffeh, Katsuki, Nos
Brian is dead, Purr is spewed, Muffin was spewed. Spiffeh spewed.
Means the only scum on the wagon possible is Sakura or Nos.
However due to the fact that TBG had to hammer himself the scum is almost positively Sakura.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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hey this seems familiarIn post 4162, Sakura Hana wrote:Nancy Drew.
That translates to: "I have a high win rate as scum so you scumreading me means im town"I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Tell me math is still scum I'll waitIn post 4178, MathBlade wrote:The Game Breaking Strategy
The scum poisoner is absolutely even night. With my lynch today, you're going to have to lynch the poisoner tomorrow. Anyone claimed with a gun IS OFF LIMITS tomorrow. I don't fucking care if the mod tells you it's a guilty. You say the guilty and lynch in the no gun claimants.
Now once the poisoner flips, and I'm 95% sure it's Sakura, then the rest of the no gun claimants become very likely town.
Why does this work? Why do we assume there is one scum in the gunsmiths and one scum outside?
Because with an all three town MC scum would have to have a way to find out the PRs. A gunsmith provides the fake/real claim for them and gives them cover while finding two but not three of the PRs.
If you disagree with me on Sakura, you absolutely lynch in the no guns for the confirmed towns it provides and for the removed kill every other night. Scum are then forced to kill the non gun claimants and hunt within the guns. If and only if a no gun claimant reaches lylo do you consider it.
Spewed Town
AKA do not lynch unless something has gone horribly wrong
Spiffeh, Muffin, Purr, MariaR,Nos, Prof Fridays
Spoiler: whyI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
MariaR goes for the uwu owo tsundere-dere look but you never know if she has a knife behind her back.~Bitmap-
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