I very much doubt that’s what DVa meant by that.In post 8029, Jingle wrote:I love how responding to an accusation that not sheeping nancy is antitown is 'inflating my epeen'.In post 8019, DrewVa wrote:Jingle could you like take a VC or something if you're focused on this game instead of inflating your epeen
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Wasn't about defending myself. I was acknowledging that I probably wasn't the person you were asking, and explaining why I'm interested in the lynch. And no, BEF didn't outright admit he thinks EJ is town. That is the conclusion I came to about him from reading his posts.Nero Cain wrote:I didn't really name you as a BEF pusher so why did you feel the need to need to defend yourself? Also, you are saying that he's "prob scum" anyways so you are pushing him despite claiming that you aren't.In post 8015, Jingle wrote:Wouldn't say I've pushed him yet
I'll have to check to make sure but I don't think he's calling EJ town and I haven't played with BEF scum (at least I don't remember if I have) but doubling down on this day rep thing seems like something scum wouldn't do.In post 8015, Jingle wrote:He's pushing EJ for lying but seems to think EJ is town and he's pushing "Day Reps have scum" despite the Ramcius mislynch and multiple arguments about why that's not a helpful path to go down that he hasn't responded to.
I think its far more likely that scum are pushing BEF as opposed to BEF being scum.
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The only night so far where this would have been remotely advantageous was probably D3 but I think that scum is most likely to leave it for LYLO.In post 8049, BrightEyedFish wrote:
Here is where I learned of the "bolded information". Directly from Boon's announcement of the Day Rep ability. I bolded the parts that answer how I understood the information.In post 8041, Jingle wrote:
First, that quote tells us only that scum can (but doesn't have to) choose a player to be a day rep. It doesn't tell us scum can't choose a town player. It does in fact tell us scum can choose not to choose a player to be a day rep.
Where did you get the bolded information?
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They look bad both to opposing scum!SS wagon and CD kill. It’s pretty clear by now, that scum is targeting Flippy wagon.In post 8059, Elsa Jay wrote:Still wondering who we're lynching between Nev or Fishy. My vote is still on Nev.
Also, why do they not use their N2 1-shot doc yet? We had vig, holstering N2, made sense with a vig but neither with a doc or cop.
I’m still wondering about no N3 NK and it seems to me that the intended NK was likely protected, if by town jailkeep, then that would explain both that and our vigshot on you failing.
And N & M aren’t claiming to have used it on N3, which makes their doc claim, less believable.ShowHydra of DVa and Nancy Drew 39
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Why do you think RCE is scum?In post 8065, Creature wrote:Why are we ignoring RCEnigma again?ShowHydra of DVa and Nancy Drew 39
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Why do you say that?In post 8073, RCEnigma wrote:Nancy won't defend my honor but Dva will.ShowHydra of DVa and Nancy Drew 39
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My theory is scum shot Performer because he joked about a jailkeep, but there's no way to know their exact logic.
Would you like to propose why one out of BEF/Jingle/Elsa is a better lynch than you for today, N&M?
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sorry I think that was NancyIn post 8112, Nev and Max wrote:You've said a few times now that we made an attempt to stall the lynch on SS. I wanted to know what you were basing that opinion off of. For us either way was a good lynch and I don't remember speaking against the SS lynch at all.
she will probably be on later but I can't really speak on behalf of that comment in particular
my problem is that there still has to be an unaccounted for town protective, I don't know why they haven't claimed their save, and I don't know why Jingle is asking for a massclaim if they don't want to claim a save
if it was all up to me I'd probably lynch between elsa/jingle but I think Nancy feels a lot more strongly that you're scum than I feel about either one of them rn
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Nancy still wants it, and the more I think about it, I really don't see a doctor not trying to use their charge on the night that they are in a boonus room where they are very likely to be in a position to win if they so desire. I know sleep medication is a thing, but it's a hydra and that just seems like something I have a very hard time imagining coming from town.
I'm not particularly thrilled with the idea of Jingle continuing to force a massclaim although I do think there's some merit in the people who have already claimed investigative-like actions outing whatever results are left, given I cannot imagine a reason they wouldn't do so or what detriment to the town there would be, but I think that with RCE, Creature, and Dave having... more or less? all claimed all of their results so far, I think it's time we start seeing where people really want today's lynch to be.
N&M -- DrewVa
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Just copy paste and add your name
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How is a one shot non-loud doctor that has not used any charges a "possible mechanical clear?"In post 8152, Xtoxm wrote:entirely possible, but not worth the risk
its a claim that doesnt get them to endgame either way
depending on the outcome of massclaim, the slot is a possible mechanical clear
we are not a the point that this need to be imminently dealt with
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@N @ M , you claimed to have planned to doc us N3 but “fell asleep”, before you could submit it but unless you were under anesthetic or something, I don’t believe you couldn’t submit it within 48 hours.
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It is very likely there is another town protective that has yet to claim.In post 8155, Xtoxm wrote:do you think macho modifiers exist in this game just to negate a bunyip and a scum JK?
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In post 7910, Nev and Max wrote:
We didn't get a charge. We are the doctor. We started with 1 charge. We couldnt guess we'll enough until now where the kill was going to go.In post 7907, DrewVa wrote:
I dislike that you claim to have gotten a doc charge N2 and still haven’t used it on anyone.In post 7899, Nev and Max wrote:
Moreso that I don't care about people scum reading us so much. Maybe playing like shit? I dunno. I haven't been playing particularly well this game.In post 7883, PenguinPower wrote:
You haven't been.In post 7877, Nev and Max wrote:Why do you think I've been playing like I don't give a shit?
FYI, holding on to a protective power, is what got me outed as scum in Heroes Wanted. Why? Because if you’re town, you never how long you’re going to live in a game, so you use your PR asap, especially if it’s a protective. Ours was a 1-shot vig and we had no idea to shoot but if we had cop or doc, we would have 100% used it the very night we got it.We were going to be on Drew last night, but again sleeping pill and all.
Trying to guess the save when there are still 15+ is bad odds. We were waiting til we could even them up a bit, which would probably have been tonight.ShowHydra of DVa and Nancy Drew 39
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You’re telling me, you honestly believe he fell asleep and therefore couldn’t doc us in 48 freaking hours?In post 8166, Xtoxm wrote:
you don't need a good reason to holster when you only have 1-shotIn post 8164, DrewVa wrote:In post 7910, Nev and Max wrote:
We didn't get a charge. We are the doctor. We started with 1 charge. We couldnt guess we'll enough until now where the kill was going to go.In post 7907, DrewVa wrote:
I dislike that you claim to have gotten a doc charge N2 and still haven’t used it on anyone.In post 7899, Nev and Max wrote:
Moreso that I don't care about people scum reading us so much. Maybe playing like shit? I dunno. I haven't been playing particularly well this game.In post 7883, PenguinPower wrote:
You haven't been.In post 7877, Nev and Max wrote:Why do you think I've been playing like I don't give a shit?
FYI, holding on to a protective power, is what got me outed as scum in Heroes Wanted. Why? Because if you’re town, you never how long you’re going to live in a game, so you use your PR asap, especially if it’s a protective. Ours was a 1-shot vig and we had no idea to shoot but if we had cop or doc, we would have 100% used it the very night we got it.We were going to be on Drew last night, but again sleeping pill and all.
Trying to guess the save when there are still 15+ is bad odds. We were waiting til we could even them up a bit, which would probably have been tonight.
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In post 8146, Elsa Jay wrote:20 Australian dollars from Ducky here I come.Sometimes, I seriously wonder if you’re a jester but then I remember that there aren’t any in this game.
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The only problem with that, is scum can kill all the PRs. So, unless scum!SS jailkept us, there is still an unclaimed town protective in this setup that stopped the N3 NK and we shouldn’t out them.In post 8167, Creature wrote:Meh, won't mind the massclaiming
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I asked Nancy, I think she mostly remembered N&M pushing EJ over SS, and I believe she misremembered N&M trying to prevent the day from ending when that did not happen afaik. I don't really have an issue with retracting that part of the case on her behalf, given I don't really think that's the biggest issue we have with the N&M slot. (Claim, Boonus Round, Tone, Reactions, seem more what we've discussed irt the slot)In post 8186, davesaz wrote:Are you dodging N&M's question? Or overlooked it?
I'm still a bit more conflicted as I outlined 7940 but am not sure that I want BEF more today than N&M despite my misgivings on the slot.
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Isn't there some mechanical bullshit on una, but not a hard clear cause it was a no result on a day we don't know where ss jailed?
I need to make a list at some point of the level of reliability for each check we have at some point
Or was that one of creature's results after he was ascetic?
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In post 7012, Creature wrote:
My revealed actions:In post 6999, Cheeky Dancer wrote:I dont understand. You're saying you disloyal vigged AC on n1??!? If you did a disloyal action on AC, well then I guess my sr on you has been right .
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In post 8196, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:In post 7831, Creature wrote:Small reminder that dave and I targeted her with a disloyal and got no result.ShowHydra of DVa and Nancy Drew 39
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No results, I imagine - irrespective of alignment, so it obviously only works on slots that aren’t asetic, commute or rolestopped, or the player with the disloyal isn’t roleblocked. Based on TLK inexplicably receiving the sticky fruit, there’s also the possibility of some form of redirect.In post 8198, Thanos wrote:Stupid question: what would a disloyal action on an Ascetic return?ShowHydra of DVa and Nancy Drew 39
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Apparently.In post 8199, Thanos wrote:So Creature:
N2 targeted EJ
N3 targeted Una
N4 targeted me
And got "no result" all the time?
Btw, Nancy what's your Creature read here?
I think Creature’s definitely town here.ShowHydra of DVa and Nancy Drew 39
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Dave also claims to have a disloyal on Elsa.In post 8200, Nero Cain wrote:I'm not voting N+M without further protection claims.
Nancy, you are passing on Elsa b/c Creature says he targeted him with something. I'd ask you about Creature (who I'm also not town reading) but they are tied up Elsa so I'm sure thats a no for you. Wut about Jingle?
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No, we haven’t towncleared Elsa.In post 8204, DrewVa wrote:
Dave also claims to have a disloyal on Elsa.In post 8200, Nero Cain wrote:I'm not voting N+M without further protection claims.
Nancy, you are passing on Elsa b/c Creature says he targeted him with something. I'd ask you about Creature (who I'm also not town reading) but they are tied up Elsa so I'm sure thats a no for you. Wut about Jingle?
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Una, the other 3 of us won prizes in the BOONus round. If scum had that ability, why wouldn’t they have known about it on D1? So, they would then have to know that they wouldn’t be anonymous, right? And that suspicion would thereby fall on any slot in there who didn’t win a prize? And it’s only now that Boon tells us, that one of the slots is always random. So, I guess, if you have more than one unexplained slot -In post 2403, Boonskiies wrote:more than one who wasn’t in the round who didn’t win a prizebut what I’m wondering is if, scum could, possibly frame a slot as well by selecting them over a scummate?ShowHydra of DVa and Nancy Drew 39
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Didn’t that die with TLK?In post 8208, BrightEyedFish wrote:
Are we considering the sticky fruit as a protective?In post 8163, DrewVa wrote:
It is very likely there is another town protective that has yet to claim.In post 8155, Xtoxm wrote:do you think macho modifiers exist in this game just to negate a bunyip and a scum JK?
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According to your theory Una, that would make Dave and BEF the scumteam because Creature has used a disloyal on Thanos. Not sure how votes on UL fit into this, however?
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It wasn’t all that powerful on D2, because on D1, any rep who tried to end the day early, rightfully had a huge FOS lobbed at them, so what power would that really be? Sure scum wouldn’t have known that their ability would be outed but they did know that day reps weren’t anonymous and under heavy scrutiny, so I don’t see the benefit of drawing unnecessary attention to themselves anyway? Near endgame, I’d totally get it but still on D2, I unlikely, think.In post 8217, UnaBombaH wrote:
Huh.In post 8210, DrewVa wrote:If scum had that ability, why wouldn’t they have known about it on D1? So, they would then have to know that they wouldn’t be anonymous, right? And that suspicion would thereby fall on any slot in there who didn’t win a prize? And it’s only now that Boon tells us, that one of the slots is always random.
+In post 2404, Boonskiies wrote:Did you know...that the Mafia Team has an additional factional ability that allows them the opportunity to pick?one of themselves as a Day Rep
They likely didn't know how the dayreps are selected.In post 2404, Boonskiies wrote:They don't have to use this ability, butstarting Night 1, it definitely became available!
They likely thought they could just blend in with the randomness.
They likely didn't know Boon would yell their ability out loud the next day.
I mean,IN HOW MANY GAMES DOES THE MOD REVEAL SCUMTEAMS ABILITIES AT THE START OF THE DAY AFTER GIVING IT TO THEM?
And to anyone saying it's not "powerful" to be a dayrep, I call bs.
Scum should be seeking to use any "power" available to them.
Being a dayrep...well, It's still power to manipulate, drive an agenda, tell a narrative. Potray as a "teamplayer" by "not hammering until we are all sure" etc etc.
I'm not expecting a scum!dayrep would just end day because they can.ShowHydra of DVa and Nancy Drew 39
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A) I’m townreading Creature based on meta.In post 8223, UnaBombaH wrote:
Huh?In post 8219, DrewVa wrote:According to your theory Una, that would make Dave and BEF the scumteam because Creature has used a disloyal on Thanos.
How does "Creature using a disloyal on Thanos" make
A) Creature town?
B) Dave and BEF scum?
B) I thought that was your theory, not mine?
I’m not currently scumreading Dave and BEF is nullscum, for me now. \_0_/ShowHydra of DVa and Nancy Drew 39
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Okay, why is everyone in the top 2-4 wagons a suspect? *confused*In post 8225, UnaBombaH wrote:
Like, if we REALLY want to tear everything apart, it goes like this.In post 8219, DrewVa wrote:Not sure how votes on UL fit into this, however?
EVERYONE IN THE TOP 2-4 WAGONS IS A SUSPECT!
Meaning: Creature, PenguingPower,,Ramcius,Almost CharaElsa Jay,, davesaz, Thanos.The Last Knight
Now, you see where that leaves us?
We have a lynchpool of 5 instead of the 3 I suggested.ShowHydra of DVa and Nancy Drew 39
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Well, if we don’t die soon, we need to definitely re-evaluate our townreads, because then we ought to rightfully suspect a possible pocket.In post 8227, UnaBombaH wrote:
Well, we didn't see anyone trying to tell much of a story with it, but maybe that is because Boon did tell us about it?In post 8224, DrewVa wrote:It wasn’t all that powerful on D2, because on D1, any rep who tried to end the day early, rightfully had a huge FOS lobbed at them, so what power would that really be?
Like...trying to play a friendly neighbourhood townie!dayrep after Boon has just told us that one of them could always be scum if they just wanted to wouldn't be the smartest move I guess?ShowHydra of DVa and Nancy Drew 39
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Okay, I’m just not following rn. Maybe DVa can explain it to me?In post 8229, UnaBombaH wrote:...........................................I'm not sure we should be having this discussion.ShowHydra of DVa and Nancy Drew 39
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Oh goodieIn post 8236, UnaBombaH wrote:
And this is me not giving a flying duck.In post 8235, Jingle wrote:Una, your theory about day reps is garbage.
If I were scum here, I would've definitely taken a dayrep-position D2 for myself or my teammate, and none of you would've apparently punished me for it at all.
So there's that.
And what would you have taken with your exciting position
A vacation in the bahamas?
Because it's fucking useless for scum so I'm assuming you want the money or glory right?
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What part of we’re a hydra aren’t you comprehending?In post 8240, Nev and Max wrote:
This while post is fucking bullshit. First of all Nancy is posting, but she can't respond personally to the post that you already told me you didn't want to speak for her on. I get that you spoke to her, but if it's not your read then I don't think you should be the one posting the defense.In post 8188, DrewVa wrote:
I asked Nancy, I think she mostly remembered N&M pushing EJ over SS, and I believe she misremembered N&M trying to prevent the day from ending when that did not happen afaik. I don't really have an issue with retracting that part of the case on her behalf, given I don't really think that's the biggest issue we have with the N&M slot. (Claim, Boonus Round, Tone, Reactions, seem more what we've discussed irt the slot)In post 8186, davesaz wrote:Are you dodging N&M's question? Or overlooked it?
I'm still a bit more conflicted as I outlined 7940 but am not sure that I want BEF more today than N&M despite my misgivings on the slot.
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Nancy throws shade at us in a lot of posts and when called on it she sends out her peon to make the slight retraction.
Nancy, if you think we are scum case us. Shade, feelings and tone policing isnt substative. Explain why are actions point to a scum mentality. I can't change your mind on how you read my posts. I can argue reasoning behind things info and say though.ShowHydra of DVa and Nancy Drew 39
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I think Una’s still probably town though.In post 8239, DrewVa wrote:
Oh goodieIn post 8236, UnaBombaH wrote:
And this is me not giving a flying duck.In post 8235, Jingle wrote:Una, your theory about day reps is garbage.
If I were scum here, I would've definitely taken a dayrep-position D2 for myself or my teammate, and none of you would've apparently punished me for it at all.
So there's that.
And what would you have taken with your exciting position
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Because it's fucking useless for scum so I'm assuming you want the money or glory right?
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Both Alonzo and CD were hardpushing N & M.In post 8262, RCEnigma wrote:I'm with drewva to be honest. Rereading Cheekys iso is making me kind of paranoid but I think N&M comes away from cheekys iso as a scummier slot than the ones I'm paranoid of.
One of Alonzo/McQueen was on track and are worth digging through. I want to say Alonzo to take the lazy way out but cheeky didn't die over their JK joke.ShowHydra of DVa and Nancy Drew 39
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Definitely not us either. Always one random=Ram but the other 3 were BOONus round winners.In post 8266, Creature wrote:
DavesazIn post 8207, UnaBombaH wrote:And IF they didn't know it was ever gonna be outed, THEN they would've def. picked one D2.
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No, don’t think so, which is why I really doubt that scum used the dayrep thing on D2.In post 8273, Creature wrote:dave and I were in the same room and became both day representatives. Did it happen another time?ShowHydra of DVa and Nancy Drew 39
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Hmmm . . . I don’t think so.In post 8275, Creature wrote:I mean the two players from the same winning room becoming day representatives.ShowHydra of DVa and Nancy Drew 39
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Why the fuck are we massclaiming when N&M is a consensus lynch
I am hearing no one seriously fight for N&M town, only nero saying to pass because of a claim which is weak af
If we are massclaiming we are starting with someone that at least a few people want to lynch like BEF
But I literally don't even know if I want BEF to claim right now and he is basically #2 in my poe
If you think N&M is town then say so and say who the better lynch is
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Yeah, why is Penguin first? If we do it, BEF should claim first but yeah, I agree. I don’t see the need for it today. There isn’t any need to out all the tprs rn.In post 8285, DrewVa wrote:Why the fuck are we massclaiming when N&M is a consensus lynch
I am hearing no one seriously fight for N&M town, only nero saying to pass because of a claim which is weak af
If we are massclaiming we are starting with someone that at least a few people want to lynch like BEF
But I literally don't even know if I want BEF to claim right now and he is basically #2 in my poe
If you think N&M is town then say so and say who the better lynch is
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I think you may be wrong about them neccesarily being a “consensus” lynch though.In post 8287, DrewVa wrote:
Yeah, why is Penguin first? If we do it, BEF should claim first but yeah, I agree. I don’t see the need for it today. There isn’t any need to out all the tprs rn.In post 8285, DrewVa wrote:Why the fuck are we massclaiming when N&M is a consensus lynch
I am hearing no one seriously fight for N&M town, only nero saying to pass because of a claim which is weak af
If we are massclaiming we are starting with someone that at least a few people want to lynch like BEF
But I literally don't even know if I want BEF to claim right now and he is basically #2 in my poe
If you think N&M is town then say so and say who the better lynch is
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Yeah if we were going with "pseudo" conf town then we'd have fucking elsa choose and that's not happening either.
This thing where people keep pushing for the slots that no one wants to lynch to massclaim first and your argument that forcing scum to guess where a real protectice is is pinging the fuck out of me
And we never concluded wtf happened with stickygate so you would also risk making any investigative actions unreliable if we have a loyalized visitor unclaimed which is precisely what profii has mentioned he tried to make happen.
Like yes, maybe we get some more likely town out of a massclaim, but if anyone had a sword to explain which is better between N&M and BEF they would have said so already
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Una is only town because of the claimed creature result, and creature is not locktown. Based on play alone una would be lowish on my poe, probably around or lower than dave. In fact requiring una to be town is one of the main things making me have doubts about my creature read, altho I have way more issues with bottom of poe than those two.
If Thanos wants BEF to claim he can ask for it.
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A question, if you please. Would you say you’re more or less fun at parties than FF?In post 8305, Jingle wrote:
Don't care a whit. Your wants and desires are secondary to solving the game.In post 8300, Elsa Jay wrote:
Wait a second, I didn't agree to this.In post 8297, Jingle wrote:On last thing before I duck out of the thread for a few hours. If what I hope will happen doesn't, we should probably lynch me or EJ, despite both of us likely flipping green.ShowHydra of DVa and Nancy Drew 39
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Except if Creature is town then scum may have already decided he was an optimal kill tonight so leashing you would do us absolutely 0 good and tell us nothing if he ends up being the NKIn post 8308, Nev and Max wrote:Don't forget that we have our protect and are willing to let that go where people feel it helps us best.
Force scum to kill us or fuck with the kill again.
So us holding out because leashing you is some big deal seems like a load of garbage
No worthwhile crumbs, nonsensical night actions, and AtE without solving in response to being pushed for a weak claim does not leave me with any reason to think you are town. You're acting like you're a good nightkill right now for scum when you're not, which reflects the desire you seem to have to be townread for your claim alone which is pretty scum indicative imo
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Oh hey Nancy's on
I should stop cross-posting with her because people seem to not be able to tell us apart even though I have literally sigged every post except the gifs
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Yeah, that's my point. Why do you want to make it easy for the scum to figure out where their kills can do the most damage?In post 8311, Nev and Max wrote:Also, a mass claim right now would force scum to prioritize their kills based on who can do the most damage to them.
why are you asking to be leashed if, from your point of view, one of the players most capable of catching scum is Creature, who you cannot protect? (assuming of course you think Creature is town, which is not universal consensus)In post 8311, Nev and Max wrote:If we can figure out who has the best chance of finding scum I will be on that person making sure they can do their job.
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In post 8123, RCEnigma wrote:
Una n2 and cheeky n3.In post 8088, davesaz wrote:
Have you said which nights?In post 8087, RCEnigma wrote:Una not vanilla, cheeky not vanilla.
Thought cheeky was stickyfruit vendor after my check.
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