LMAOIn post 1831, Bell wrote:Is it your goal to get nked n1 every game nero.
mystery box of silver 10. (done)
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What are yall on man?? THEY POSTED TELLING YOU TO FOLLOW A SITE RULE. Then the mod is like yes good thanks for telling them to follow the rules and you think this has game impact?? And some are claiming it's AI????? You gotta be kidding me manIn post 1847, DiamondSentinel wrote:In post 1799, samantha97 wrote:k just replace me if you're going to comment on whether a post is good or not as a moderatorActually yeah. Are we going to fucking ignore this? The mod is actively interfering with this game.
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Yeah so I'm hearing if you take a chevy and switch the plus with a horse, it's now a ferrari. Only works if you're consistent throughout your time on the site though so watch out...In post 1848, Nero Cain wrote:my thoughts on 3p always being scum despite being able to win with town are consistent throughout my time on site. Not going to quote fetch but yeah...-
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Guideline, whatever. It will probably become rule soon enoughIn post 1893, Nero Cain wrote:but the site rule is that MODS can't use the L word. Players still can.-
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Is it AI for me to tell someone not to sexually harass another user? Honestly can't believe I'm having this discussion outside newbie forumsIn post 1894, Morning Mage wrote:
it doesnt have game impactIn post 1890, superbowl9 wrote:
What are yall on man?? THEY POSTED TELLING YOU TO FOLLOW A SITE RULE. Then the mod is like yes good thanks for telling them to follow the rules and you think this has game impact?? And some are claiming it's AI????? You gotta be kidding me manIn post 1847, DiamondSentinel wrote:In post 1799, samantha97 wrote:k just replace me if you're going to comment on whether a post is good or not as a moderatorActually yeah. Are we going to fucking ignore this? The mod is actively interfering with this game.
What the fuck is this
but it is AI-
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Yes at least I can maintain my brain cellsIn post 1899, Nero Cain wrote:
Do you feel like mocking me is a good use of your time?In post 1896, superbowl9 wrote:
Yeah so I'm hearing if you take a chevy and switch the plus with a horse, it's now a ferrari. Only works if you're consistent throughout your time on the site though so watch out...In post 1848, Nero Cain wrote:my thoughts on 3p always being scum despite being able to win with town are consistent throughout my time on site. Not going to quote fetch but yeah...-
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Lol what? I didn't say you did. I'm saying we're taking a good-faith PSA and dragging it into this game, and if it was about something people view as more "important" like sexual harassment yall would be disgusted at this conversation.In post 1921, Morning Mage wrote:
gimme a fking break dude, i didnt sexually harass anybody.In post 1913, superbowl9 wrote:
Is it AI for me to tell someone not to sexually harass another user? Honestly can't believe I'm having this discussion outside newbie forumsIn post 1894, Morning Mage wrote:
it doesnt have game impactIn post 1890, superbowl9 wrote:
What are yall on man?? THEY POSTED TELLING YOU TO FOLLOW A SITE RULE. Then the mod is like yes good thanks for telling them to follow the rules and you think this has game impact?? And some are claiming it's AI????? You gotta be kidding me manIn post 1847, DiamondSentinel wrote:In post 1799, samantha97 wrote:k just replace me if you're going to comment on whether a post is good or not as a moderatorActually yeah. Are we going to fucking ignore this? The mod is actively interfering with this game.
What the fuck is this
but it is AI
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Stuff like this.... man idk anymore. If you really think you could have possibly triggered someone why would you even try to place it in the realm of game content?? Like there's some things that are bigger than this stupid gameIn post 1938, Nero Cain wrote:its also not impossible, to me at least, that the post was designed to sorta ad hom me and the others voting him.-
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I mean I don't treat everyone the same way every game, it makes meta very easy. Also why I'm not a big believer in metaIn post 1951, Nero Cain wrote:
*desire to eliminate intensifies* They way you are treating me this game is a far cry from last game. Or you really just that sore?In post 1919, superbowl9 wrote:
Yes at least I can maintain my brain cellsIn post 1899, Nero Cain wrote:
Do you feel like mocking me is a good use of your time?In post 1896, superbowl9 wrote:
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I'm saying that PSAs like this should not be viewed as part of gameplay. It's just really disgusting to either post something like that to try to gain an advantage or to call someone out presuming they did so. Some things are more important than the game.In post 1955, Morning Mage wrote:I don't really think of racism or sexual harassment as being more important than each other. everything in the game is game-relevant and can be AI.-
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I don't TR but it's not because of this. I'm treating you the same way so who would I be to get ruffled over it?In post 1982, Nero Cain wrote:I feel like SB should know that I'm town here but him mocking me and being a meanie shouldn't be the way he treats a town and if he's not town reading me then its just fake.-
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In post 2007, DiamondSentinel wrote:First off, that fucking essay was shit. It was them condescending about a relatively recent change that people are occasionally relapsing past. 2 isolated incidents are not people being racist. But regardless, it doesn’t take a fucking essay to tell people “hey, don’t say that word, it’s racially charged”. Call a spade a spade, it was unnecessary, disrespectful, and condescending.
I understand if you feel this way, and maybe there are better ways to get people to stop using hurtful language. But that's a discussion that's separate from ingame AI stuff, and we need to make that clear.In post 2010, DiamondSentinel wrote:I understand and wholeheartedly agree that people should not use the word. But to talk down to people by writing a cringy ass essay is not fucking right.-
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What has samantha done that's scummyIn post 2094, Morning Mage wrote:echo, just vote sam with us-
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How is that scum AI?? I would be pissed and want to replace as town if mod conftowned someone it's just not fun to play at that pointIn post 2102, Morning Mage wrote:
she thought the mod had conftowned a player and got really upset about it, as it messed up her strategy.In post 2098, superbowl9 wrote:
What has samantha done that's scummyIn post 2094, Morning Mage wrote:echo, just vote sam with us-
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Scummy enough to derail the wagon we've talked about hammering for like 20 pages for??In post 2108, Nero Cain wrote:i mean, I do have it in my notes PT that Sam is a bit active lurkish and you could argue thats scum behavior. And you could also argue that her trying to out the 3rd mason was scummy but idk about running up an empty slot.-
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I'm sorry but you have been bad recently tooIn post 2114, Morning Mage wrote:
I'm still here dude dwIn post 2112, superbowl9 wrote:I literally feel like I'm the only one who has a functioning brain since BH left-
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You've been listening to April way too muchIn post 2116, superbowl9 wrote:
I'm sorry but you have been bad recently tooIn post 2114, Morning Mage wrote:
I'm still here dude dwIn post 2112, superbowl9 wrote:I literally feel like I'm the only one who has a functioning brain since BH left-
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Agreed if we could actually flip someone instead of derailing legit wagons for no reasonIn post 2117, Morning Mage wrote:superbowl being so eager on the gamma flip is scummy and looks worse if samantha flips red
But I'm willing to take that hit to my townpoints because someone needs to advocate for it-
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No I didn't I think you've been following April's "don't read the thread" advice as wellIn post 2120, Morning Mage wrote:
you called me a sexual criminalIn post 2116, superbowl9 wrote:
I'm sorry but you have been bad recently tooIn post 2114, Morning Mage wrote:
I'm still here dude dwIn post 2112, superbowl9 wrote:I literally feel like I'm the only one who has a functioning brain since BH left-
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Put yourself in samantha's shoes: if mod confirmed norway as town next post would you just continue to play because the error was in your benefit?In post 2121, Almost50 wrote:
I disagree on it not being scum-indicative, when the reason for it was "mod interfering" and suggesting it "confirmed" a player (although it didn't in my PoV).In post 2101, DiamondSentinel wrote:speed-eliming someone because they're replacing out is anawfulstrategy unless it's clearly a scum aligned ragequit because they're getting pressured. I really don't think that anyone can genuinely say that sam's "replacement" smells of that.-
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Replace scum with town and it's just as valid. NAIIn post 2126, Nero Cain wrote:I mean, I guess I could buy into a scum Sam gets ticked off that she felt like the mod was influincing the game.-
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Do you do anything besides self meta?In post 2125, April Ludgate wrote:You can ask Almost50 what happens when I’m more trolly early game then come out late game.-
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Reminder to not say that pls
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I mean I really don't care so much about it, I just know others do and won't be so vocal about telling people to stop. I don't really care what people think on the issue and I understand that it's not an official rule, I just think it was really slimy for people to bring it into the game. We can talk about it in post game.In post 2141, Nero Cain wrote:like if it REALLY upsets someone here then we shouldn't use it.
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AgainstIn post 2145, Nero Cain wrote:
wait...are you for or against the sam elim?In post 2140, superbowl9 wrote:If sam flips green can yall agree to listen to me for the rest of the game-
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You are the only one struggling with this pretty sure. Everyone understands that but doesn't want to say "3p aligned functionally miller masons" to describe us, the only reason u really care is because you scumread all third parties for some strange reasonIn post 2172, Nero Cain wrote:a50 and sb are not miller masons. They DUNCTION as miller masons if you believe thier claim that they can only win with town and share its wincon but they are still its own seperate faction. I can't believe ppl are struggling with this.-
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You are REALLY tempting me hereIn post 2174, Almost50 wrote:
Nope, and I haven't seen it done by town before. IIn post 2157, superbowl9 wrote:Agreed, but I'm sure you can understand why someone would want to rep out as town in that situationhavethough seen it done by scum in different ways, and they would also claim they would do it as either alignment (but -again- I've never seen TOWN replacing out over someone being confirmed by mistake, or over someone using a trust tell, or anything if the sort)-
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Mastina I like you but this is not itIn post 2181, mastina wrote:
And here is the Golden Paradox that I was townreading so hard that I considered locktowning him. <3In post 1737, TheGoldenParadox wrote:norwee is out here waving a massive neon sign yelling "hi, i'm norwee, and i rolled scum!" this is the most ballsy opportunistic wagon hopping i've seen in a while.
He's dead on the money about NorwegianboyEE's opportunism. It applies to Ban Hydras for sure, and regardless of Gamma's alignment is applicable to Gamma as well. (Gamma as scum? Norwegian's hop-on was an absolute bus. Gamma as town? Norwegian is literally one of the only scum on the wagon, with it being opportunistically hopping on a free mislynch.)-
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In post 2069, mastina wrote:
We've had three basically-masons claimed with extra power roles beyond that either claimed or hinted at.In post 1593, Gamma Emerald wrote:From personal experience 4 scum is possible, but it needs to be HEAVILY vanilla
This aint a heavily-vanilla game.
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So 2194 was /s? I genuinely do not know anymore because of this threadIn post 2195, EchoVision wrote:
+ fucking 1In post 2101, DiamondSentinel wrote:speed-eliming someone because they're replacing out is anawfulstrategy unless it's clearly a scum aligned ragequit because they're getting pressured. I really don't think that anyone can genuinely say that sam's "replacement" smells of that.-
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Isn't he past prod time?In post 2192, Nero Cain wrote:
no I won't b/c I actully made this same comparison the other game.In post 2146, mastina wrote:Nero and Vecna will both protest to this comparison
my issue with Vecna is two fold. 27 is game advancing content. I could easily see a scum Vecna pooh-poohing my pooh-poohing of potential DS and BM wagons. Also its like, he's saying "page 2 is too early for content, lets stay in RVS!" and I think thats a scummy take.
he's lurking.
Also in our last game together I got onto him for town reading me b/c I have felt like he always scumread me. Is it really outside the realm of possibility that a scum him goes "Nero expects me to scum read him so let me do just that to fool him."
I'm...I know my track record against Vecna is poor but I don't think "nero and vecna will get into it so they are both town!" is a great take.-
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Okay also reminder about that wordIn post 2198, EchoVision wrote:
lynchIn post 2131, superbowl9 wrote:
Do you do anything besides self meta?In post 2125, April Ludgate wrote:You can ask Almost50 what happens when I’m more trolly early game then come out late game.
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As much as I hate to let the replace influence anything this is a whole bunch of susIn post 2205, schadd_ wrote:Ban Hydras (5): PlusJOYED, DiamondSentinel, Christøpher, samantha97, Gamma Emerald-
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I'm not advocating for this post, you asked about it so I quoted it for youIn post 2207, EchoVision wrote:
why are we ruling out multiball/3rd partyIn post 2189, superbowl9 wrote:In post 2069, mastina wrote:
We've had three basically-masons claimed with extra power roles beyond that either claimed or hinted at.In post 1593, Gamma Emerald wrote:From personal experience 4 scum is possible, but it needs to be HEAVILY vanilla
This aint a heavily-vanilla game.
Thus, five scum.
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Not what I meant in that postIn post 2209, Almost50 wrote:
If interested, and you have the time, try having a look at this game. D1 Elements used a trust tell, and who made the most fuss about it? kuribo did. And what did he flip? He was Mafia. I do trust kuribo would be upset about it as either alignment, so I am not questioning his claim on that. What I am saying though is I've only seen it done by scum, and I have never witnessed it being done by town.In post 2180, superbowl9 wrote:
You are REALLY tempting me hereIn post 2174, Almost50 wrote:
Nope, and I haven't seen it done by town before. IIn post 2157, superbowl9 wrote:Agreed, but I'm sure you can understand why someone would want to rep out as town in that situationhavethough seen it done by scum in different ways, and they would also claim they would do it as either alignment (but -again- I've never seen TOWN replacing out over someone being confirmed by mistake, or over someone using a trust tell, or anything if the sort)
back in 2016 (I think) I was modding a game on another site and I made a mistake in the flavour that suggested a slot that has just been replaced might be the Cop, and not even the outed Cop got pissed, but who did? Exactly! The MAFIA RB (albeit having expressed their anger in their PT).
So, I do think people are more likely to get overly upset when mistakes (or what they deem as such) are made against them. Have you ever seen a footballer getting upset the referee awarded them a penalty they didn't deserve??
But also your very writing this is tilting me because I don't like to win when it's not fair, whether the odds are for or against me. I don't like when people let replace outs etc. influence the game because it just feels like a cheap win. What's the point of playing the game if you're just going to cheat? Like you might not care but you can't see why other people have an issue with that??-
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Thank you im glad we have another thinking person in this threadIn post 2212, EchoVision wrote:
yes sorry 2194 was sarcasticIn post 2197, superbowl9 wrote:
So 2194 was /s? I genuinely do not know anymore because of this threadIn post 2195, EchoVision wrote:
+ fucking 1In post 2101, DiamondSentinel wrote:speed-eliming someone because they're replacing out is anawfulstrategy unless it's clearly a scum aligned ragequit because they're getting pressured. I really don't think that anyone can genuinely say that sam's "replacement" smells of that.
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Well ripIn post 2216, EchoVision wrote:
replace me out or modkill me then too; it's the way i play and the vernacular i use and i'm not going to make a conscious effort to change it, especially in a game where i have to post fast as fuck because we've had the thread open for like 96 hours and we're 90 pages deepIn post 2205, schadd_ wrote: [*]while using The L Word isn't Against Site rules, if it becomes clear you are not making any effort to use it less i will not let you play in my game, lest you potentially alienate other players
sorry for using a word-
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Can we just stop speculating on replaces and keep it to what they're doing in the actual gameIn post 2228, mastina wrote:
I've the opposite thought--if samantha thought the game were compromised as scum, samantha would air those grievances with the mod in the scum PT...not in-thread.In post 1947, April Ludgate wrote:My thoughts are Samantha is probably scum who stopped caring and TMI knows the slot is town so they know it actually did get confirmed, even if people don’t see it like that.
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Oh thanks for pointing this out I wasn't aware that Mena was anti town too!In post 2231, mastina wrote:
Wouldn't surprise me, I've been incredibly unsubtle about it.In post 1968, Menalque wrote:I think I might know what you’re getting at here mastina-
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I really hate to be the L-word police but I'm just gonna keep putting remindersIn post 2244, Titus wrote:
Ok. I claim town smartass. I know too much for my own good. I come fully equipped with a VCA no one understands on day 3 with a scum lynch that's not a guilty.In post 2235, superbowl9 wrote:I really just love how this town has 0 care for outing PRs i think that will raise our chances of winning, how about we all just massclaim right now
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As much as i would love to elim there how is this a helpful action
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