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Post #27 (isolation #0) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:30 pm
Postby Galron »
In post 20, Save The Dragons wrote:Internal affairs! Internal affairs! Something something something but you're pointing a gun at your friend so be prepared!
Internal affairs! Internal affairs! Something something something there's a city in the background so don't be scared!
i don't really have much to go off of other than the picture at the top so that's probably the best i got
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Post #97 (isolation #12) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 4:56 pm
Postby Galron »
I think you need sorted. You're not the only one, but need to start somewheres.
Here's the deal. In the past few large themes I've kind of taken a backseat at the beginning, and then no one pays attention to me on the back end. I'm tired of it, and I want to find town and/or scum myself rather than rely on others. So if you're town, it should come out. Right now I'm going to campaign for votes on you.
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Post #502 (isolation #27) » Wed Feb 23, 2022 5:37 pm
Postby Galron »
In post 492, Tejate Raichu wrote:Sa'll good, I almost thought I did slip. I've been trying to get better at it, my brain is still hard wired to assume he/him.
Okay this is an honest statement. Prolly NAI but I do have empathy for Tejate here. As I type this it really doesn't make me want to unvote, but I get it.
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Post #509 (isolation #29) » Wed Feb 23, 2022 6:03 pm
Postby Galron »
In post 508, Tejate Raichu wrote:I'd say you'd pretty much right on that, though I guess you didn't see the same thing I did. I'm kind of struggling to really put it into words, but yes it was more the way his early game was rather than a specific post. It felt very natural to me, and too consistent to feel like something scum would try to do just to get townread for. I'm fairly sure scum could easily fake one or two posts like that, but keeping up what I'm seeing over an extended period like what I've observed is what I think would be difficult.
I'm usually a fair bit more confident in my D1 TRs than SRs, so if Scorpious is scum clearly I need more vigi practice.
In post 537, Galron wrote:What's a reverse traitor and why do you expect one?
Like a Traitor but with the alignments swapped.
So instead of a secret Mafia in the Town, it'd be a secret Town in the Mafia. Though actually now that I'm typing this out, it probably doesn't exist because of how wildly game-breaking it would be if they just outed the whole scumteam in their first post, unless the scumchat is anonymized somehow. Perhaps a Miller or something instead then, idk.
In any case, the reasoning was that the premise of Infernal Affairs (the movie) is that an undercover cop and a Triad member in the police force are struggling to outmaneuver and expose each other, without blowing their own respective cover. Traitor seemed like the natural way to implement such a concept.
Okay. I can see that I guess, but it does seem pretty unlikely.
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Post #544 (isolation #33) » Thu Feb 24, 2022 5:03 am
Postby Galron »
Tejate wagon obv not going, and I'm not as sure about him as I was. Voting Frozen Angel was a decent thought when I was falling asleep, but not feeling it now. UNVOTE: Voting Keepter as a PL, meh. I could go either way I guess. I don't like 340 and would like to see a better answer there.
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Post #547 (isolation #35) » Thu Feb 24, 2022 5:24 am
Postby Galron »
Reliance on self-meta
seems concerned about his appearance
Firebringer unvote because he didn't want a quickhammer when FB had 3 votes w/ 10 needed for hammer
magikhorse pass to Day 2? but not solidly town reading MH???
There does seem to be some solving going on though. And he's from a different site, so that's a factor I think needs consideration also. I've seen people come in from other sites and get mizzed because they just post differently than this site's meta.
I've been tunneling also, to the detriment of other reads.
I'm solidly on the fence.
I think that Firebringer unvote just pops out at me as something that scum would use as a bad excuse to get off a wagon. Almost tstbs. It could also just be someone unaware of what's going on in the game, but he's top-posting, so I doubt that's it.
And I'm still not understanding the magikhorse thing.
In post 588, MagikHorse wrote:I'm thinking Galron + Frogster at this point for the two most likely scum. I did check, Frogster is indeed posting in another game at the moment.
Isn’t there some sort of “gentleman’s agreement” to not use site mechanics?
There's a gentleman's rule not to judge people based off of IRL things. If someone says "I hurt my tailbone, give me a while to go to the doctor" like I did today, nobody should really argue with that, it's more than likely true regardless of alignment. In general anything related to real life should be considered as undeniable truth, and inevitably people will prioritize their life over the game.
The "Ellitell" (as it's called when a player is active in other games and ignores another) is a lot more arguable, and I'm not sure if there's an actual consensus regarding whether it counts as talking about other ongoing games or not. It's still a meta tell at any rate, and like other meta reasonings should have other support to go with it (and others have indeed given these explanations already on why their behavior was otherwise suspect).
This Ellitell is just the icing, the cake is already on the plate here.
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Post #763 (isolation #38) » Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:25 pm
Postby Galron »
Why is anyone taking anything N_M puts down seriously? Both of his reads lists are just opportunities for him to play with crayons, or if he's scum to make those of you who read his posts as genuine as WIFOM. Please don't take him seriously. If you want to policy him, fine, that's fine. But don't think he's trying to help anyone win a game. He may not even know what his own alignment is, let alone if scum who his buddies are.
The Frogster reads list, if he's scum, look for Rad Rat as a partner (the scum lean), and Tejate and and Magik as green. Also one of his TRs would likely be a buddy.
Andante, toog and tejate are voting me for what reason(s) exactly? Andante can't seem to make up her mind, so prob town. toog I have no read on. Tejate I still scum read for reasons previously stated, and his content since hasn't been great although it's plentiful. And again it could just be a site meta difference because I get the same feel from Magik, but I can't point to anything particular to scum read him for other than an overall feeling.
Can't tell if Frogster is putting in work as town or scum, but he did come back, and he did lay out a case, however solid or not that case may be.
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Post #824 (isolation #39) » Sun Feb 27, 2022 5:34 am
Postby Galron »
In post 817, MagikHorse wrote:No clue why Frozen Angel is so high in that N_M readslist when they only have 3 prodges to their ISO and no actual game content. That read should be null at best. Meatworld problems happen and I can get that much at least, but there's just nothing there to read into. Similarly don't understand what he's seeing in Hell to make him this townie.
I can understand the RR read though. For as short as that ISO is it does appear to be putting in a little effort towards solving.
You've been told about this by different people. You have no excuse any longer.
In post 817, MagikHorse wrote:No clue why Frozen Angel is so high in that N_M readslist when they only have 3 prodges to their ISO and no actual game content. That read should be null at best. Meatworld problems happen and I can get that much at least, but there's just nothing there to read into. Similarly don't understand what he's seeing in Hell to make him this townie.
I can understand the RR read though. For as short as that ISO is it does appear to be putting in a little effort towards solving.
You've been told about this by different people. You have no excuse any longer.
I've been told what exactly? Don't beat around the bush like this.
Believing anything that Not_Mafia posts in early game is genuine.
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If there's a vig, please take out Frozen Angel. She's just a distraction at this point.
In post 1020, Toogeloo wrote:Giving support for this. As promised, I'll support hellbooks (and Magik) votes.
That's my elaboration.
do you not have any confidence in your own reads? do you have opinions about who is scum ?? whats with this?
I am notoriously bad at this game. There are occasions where I display moments of brilliance, but generally speaking, I wing it. I've adopted a more supportive play style over the years where I find players I town read and try to work with them.
In all honesty, part of the reason I am bad though is because I start to skim when I get bored of the conversations or start seeing giant walls.
Another reason is that I'm just not an aggressive person. I don't even place RVS votes. I just idle until I see something I might be able to work with.
Finding town has often been easier than finding scum for me, so I go that route, and try to figure who "can't" (or less likely to be) be partnered with flipped scum and work from there.
Geez. I could have written this post. Word for word.
this question is actually like hard as heck because i feel like im in the upside down world but here is one answer VOTE: save the dragons
i also want andante to elaborate on what she thinks about other slots than tejate.
toog seems to be looking to give up independent scumhunting.
galron is literally going joker mode and i have no idea how to sort this sort of limbait.
scorpious could be scum for sure
i think the keeper's only thing that made me lean either way was some gimmick frustration that i read as town but still null (big part of this is that i tend to skip faer posts)
i still feel like tej is scum. frog picking him as a partner and then steering totally clear of him stinks. but idk what to make of the double magikhorse/andante chainsaw there
i think you are town with your d2 play
This is good. Couple of things, I think Andante scum reads me; I think toogs is just a bit lost and expressing a little frustration; with galron wysiwyg; the thing about the double magikhorse/andante chainsaw I want to explore more because my scum read on Tejate is starting to waver, but I'm not going to rely on a few things I found scummy on Day 1 for the entire game to scum read him.
this question is actually like hard as heck because i feel like im in the upside down world but here is one answer VOTE: save the dragons
i also want andante to elaborate on what she thinks about other slots than tejate.
toog seems to be looking to give up independent scumhunting.
galron is literally going joker mode and i have no idea how to sort this sort of limbait.
scorpious could be scum for sure
i think the keeper's only thing that made me lean either way was some gimmick frustration that i read as town but still null (big part of this is that i tend to skip faer posts)
i still feel like tej is scum. frog picking him as a partner and then steering totally clear of him stinks. but idk what to make of the double magikhorse/andante chainsaw there
i think you are town with your d2 play
This is good. Couple of things, I think Andante scum reads me; I think toogs is just a bit lost and expressing a little frustration; with galron wysiwyg; the thing about the double magikhorse/andante chainsaw I want to explore more because my scum read on Tejate is starting to waver, but I'm not going to rely on a few things I found scummy on Day 1 for the entire game to scum read him.
This feels like you just kinda mashed together some thoughts trying to make it look like actual insight into the game. Nope. I don’t like it.
.. shrug .. I was addressing the points as they were listed. At least the ones I had thoughts on. Any questions about that? Yes, they are individual points. Rather than a list I put them in paragraph form. I don't generally think in lists.