In post 10, Well Done wrote:We are Hirsute (werewolf miller)
For my iso because this game has a lot of replacements and is long.
In post 10, Well Done wrote:We are Hirsute (werewolf miller)
For my iso because this game has a lot of replacements and is long.
You're going to need to explain whyIn post 5183, Nero Cain wrote:ah man, now I can't make a well done steak joke but Dunn can get flipped.
This seems gross to meIn post 5184, Nero Cain wrote:so maybe my list looks something like
butterchurn
Dunnstral
MegAzumarill
catboi
bnuuy
mastina
Menalque
Ydrasse
with lesser suspicions of
Sword of Ducks
cassowary
MalcolmTucker
Klick
Did you think toogeloo was scum?
Would cut into their posting timeIn post 5188, Nero Cain wrote:y didn't u eat?!?
This was indeed pointed out already, Ydrasse has a pointIn post 5190, cassowary wrote:I am not currently voting toogeloo, waiting on NashvilleIn post 5186, Cephrir wrote:
Can you full claim your role before you dieIn post 5222, Toogeloo wrote:If this were the case, I would have done it 4 hours ago.In post 5211, Ydrasse wrote:its the coy "i was town power... investigative" without claiming
You are rightIn post 5228, Klick wrote:Everyone is so fucking scared to vote someone that has decreased scum odds that we're going to get the whole setup out before we settle somewhere.
There comes a point where it doesn't matter. There's more likely to be scum within the claims we've had so far than it is that they're all town. Id wager we're more likely to hit scum within the popular wagons we've run up so far than we are to hit scum outside of them.
Explain your read on my slotIn post 5232, Nero Cain wrote:says the guy vanity voting instead of hammering and moving the game along.In post 5228, Klick wrote:Everyone is so fucking scared to vote someone
I thought you were ignoring things and didn't realize you had already answered because I did not see them and because you've done that sometimes so I thought it was happening again.In post 5234, Nashville Dreams wrote:Punting but I don't like their repeating of things I already answered but this again could be gamestate.
Important setup info:In post 5273, Ydrasse wrote:but also like
hm
if fl claims he shot catboi then it's like
...
both factions failed to kill?
In post 1, Cephrir wrote:In order to increase the value of day play in multiball, this game has more scum but fewer nightkills than the first game. The faction sizes are 14:4:4:1,If a team submits kills nights 1 and 2, they may not kill night 3, and so on.but each scumteam is only allowed to kill 2 nights out of each 3.
Gunsmiths show up as having guns.In post 5314, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Well, I can be checked by the other "gunsmith".
The Gunsmith is an information role that can target a player at Night to learn if they have a gun in flavor.Members of the Mafia(that are not Doctors), Cops, FBI Agents, Vigilantes,other Gunsmiths, Paranoid Gun Owners, etc. all have guns in traditional flavor. Notably, Serial Killers and Doctors do not have guns.
What are the chances that they're a werewolf? The person claiming gunsmith in your masonryIn post 5346, tictac wrote:Yes. The person from masonry did check fl, and he does have a gun.
Is now also claiming 1 shot, which is new. Believes it doesn't conflict w monkeyman.
So **shrug**
VOTE: leaf
monkeyman is not the malefactor. Their claim was backed up by the gunsmith in the masonry. Malefactor wouldn't have knowledge of FL's claim. I believe that this at least substantiates monkeyman's claim.In post 5317, SCP 682 wrote:this is literally the level 1 malefactor play btw
to fake a guilty on someone you think is town
there is actually 0 world that monkey goes and checks FL here over anyone else.
the narrative that he made up to check FL is frankly ridiculous + he is CCd by the masonry.
It's not actually impossible for both players to be town here. Also not impossible for one to be a werewolf true claiming their role.In post 5355, tictac wrote:the change to claime did move up the possibility ngl.In post 5353, Dunnstral wrote:What are the chances that they're a werewolf? The person claiming gunsmith in your masonryIn post 5346, tictac wrote:Yes. The person from masonry did check fl, and he does have a gun.
Is now also claiming 1 shot, which is new. Believes it doesn't conflict w monkeyman.
So **shrug**
VOTE: leaf
why play w claims like that in the first place tho? there was 0 reason to.
i kinda doubt both them and monkey are tho.
Weird thing to say if you're a vig in my opinion.In post 5165, Flavor Leaf wrote:In post 5164, MonkeyMan576 wrote:I would need some convincing as to why he will flip scum and not town.
other than Mastina, they have had no reads, and they claimed a meme claim when put to e-1. They also seemed frustrated about being policied but didn't care to do anything else.
I am gut town reading Toogeloo, but it could be just anti Catboi scum team for me.
Day 2, hopefully I get vigged/night killed and I can just move on tbh.
I'm happy enough with my Day 1 reads where if I have 3/4 correct that's a success.
And yet you're voting the gunsmith claim who saw someone in the monastery with a gunIn post 5374, The Keeper wrote:Oh your monastory has a mafioso in it by the way.In post 5282, SCP 682 wrote:the last not quite so normal had a mason vig btw so a monk vig would be a flipside version of that
They spent hundreds of posts trying to eliminate the beloved princess instead of shooting herIn post 5519, SCP 682 wrote:Look - we will have FL shoot mastina tonight
That is how we will prove it.
OK?
Why am I scum?In post 5673, Nero Cain wrote:butterchurn
SCP 682
catboi
that means there is 6 scum in.
Dunnstral
MegAzumarill
MalcolmTucker
bnuuy
Klick
Menalque
Ydrasse
cassowary
mastina
monkeyman?
which means 5 of the people I find scummy are town.
mena is being a useless lurksack and doing nothing but whining about being scumread which is a bit lame but he's 50% less likely to be scum I think.
Ducks could be town I guess? or at least not mafia. My big issue with him was that he referred to bnuuny as "us" and town reading her. I felt like bnuuny was doing alot of active lurking in this game.
my Tucker suspicion is just that I don't remember anything he's done. I'll reread him and update at some point.
And MM is solely b/c I am worried that the guilty is an attempt to save Meg today.
If I remove these 4 which I'm less suspicious of I'm left with
butterchurn
SCP 682
catboi
Dunnstral
MegAzumarill
bnuuy
Klick
Ydrasse
cassowary
mastina
which is still 1 too many but I feel pretty good about this.
And why do you suspect those players?In post 5706, Nero Cain wrote:but I'm not the one that's making the argument that low posters are scum. I just happen to suspect some players that have low post counts. What do you dislike my slot for then?
This is deflecting. Why are you against sharing this read?In post 5732, Nero Cain wrote:Don't you usually not give a shit when I scumread you?
They die without triggering their ability.In post 5739, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:What happens if a beloved princess gets shot?
This is a good pointIn post 5745, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Bnuuy i think is town by that metric; they kept getting run up as a counter wagon really fast
I don't know how I usually respond when you scumread me. Are you trying to make a point?In post 5751, Nero Cain wrote:not really. I can ask you questions b4 I talk about you.In post 5742, Dunnstral wrote:This is deflecting. Why are you against sharing this read?In post 5732, Nero Cain wrote:Don't you usually not give a shit when I scumread you?
In post 427, mastina wrote:Nope! Day does not get skipped if I'm nightkilled. It's day-death to day-skip.In post 424, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Does day get skipped if you get nightkilled?
I agree with thisIn post 5904, Klick wrote:I thought CSF looked towny yesterday but it was a rather weak gut read and I haven't felt the same way about her posts today
I think CSF is probably fairly high scum equity and so if FL really doesn't die today then CSF is a decent place for the vote to fall.
They have fallen off in activity and it's not beyond reason that they could be a member of an anti-town faction here. I don't have a strong read beyond that. I'm not really interested in compromising, though. If not FL it's going to be Nero for continuously sidestepping questionsIn post 6054, Save The Dragons wrote:butterchurn come join us on csf
malcolm come join us on csf
nero
enchant come join us on csf
dunnstral do you have thoughts on csf
In post 5235, Dunnstral wrote:Explain your read on my slotIn post 5232, Nero Cain wrote:says the guy vanity voting instead of hammering and moving the game along.In post 5228, Klick wrote:Everyone is so fucking scared to vote someone
In post 5724, Dunnstral wrote:Why am I scum?In post 5673, Nero Cain wrote:butterchurn
SCP 682
catboi
that means there is 6 scum in.
Dunnstral
MegAzumarill
MalcolmTucker
bnuuy
Klick
Menalque
Ydrasse
cassowary
mastina
monkeyman?
which means 5 of the people I find scummy are town.
mena is being a useless lurksack and doing nothing but whining about being scumread which is a bit lame but he's 50% less likely to be scum I think.
Ducks could be town I guess? or at least not mafia. My big issue with him was that he referred to bnuuny as "us" and town reading her. I felt like bnuuny was doing alot of active lurking in this game.
my Tucker suspicion is just that I don't remember anything he's done. I'll reread him and update at some point.
And MM is solely b/c I am worried that the guilty is an attempt to save Meg today.
If I remove these 4 which I'm less suspicious of I'm left with
butterchurn
SCP 682
catboi
Dunnstral
MegAzumarill
bnuuy
Klick
Ydrasse
cassowary
mastina
which is still 1 too many but I feel pretty good about this.
In post 5731, Dunnstral wrote:And why do you suspect those players?In post 5706, Nero Cain wrote:but I'm not the one that's making the argument that low posters are scum. I just happen to suspect some players that have low post counts. What do you dislike my slot for then?
In post 5742, Dunnstral wrote:This is deflecting. Why are you against sharing this read?In post 5732, Nero Cain wrote:Don't you usually not give a shit when I scumread you?
In post 5759, Dunnstral wrote:I don't know how I usually respond when you scumread me. Are you trying to make a point?In post 5751, Nero Cain wrote:not really. I can ask you questions b4 I talk about you.In post 5742, Dunnstral wrote:This is deflecting. Why are you against sharing this read?In post 5732, Nero Cain wrote:Don't you usually not give a shit when I scumread you?
In post 5673, Nero Cain wrote:butterchurn
SCP 682
catboi
that means there is 6 scum in.
Dunnstral
MegAzumarill
MalcolmTucker
bnuuy
Klick
Menalque
Ydrasse
cassowary
mastina
monkeyman?
which means 5 of the people I find scummy are town.
mena is being a useless lurksack and doing nothing but whining about being scumread which is a bit lame but he's 50% less likely to be scum I think.
Ducks could be town I guess? or at least not mafia. My big issue with him was that he referred to bnuuny as "us" and town reading her. I felt like bnuuny was doing alot of active lurking in this game.
my Tucker suspicion is just that I don't remember anything he's done. I'll reread him and update at some point.
And MM is solely b/c I am worried that the guilty is an attempt to save Meg today.
If I remove these 4 which I'm less suspicious of I'm left with
butterchurn
SCP 682
catboi
Dunnstral
MegAzumarill
bnuuy
Klick
Ydrasse
cassowary
mastina
which is still 1 too many but I feel pretty good about this.
In post 5704, Nero Cain wrote:i'm scummy for pushing low posters? weakIn post 5691, The Keeper wrote:Low posters are a common push even if it an argument worthy of Tainted ???In post 5685, Nero Cain wrote:Why would you vote me. Also, my list isn't based on # of posts. Though you prob could make the argument that more active players are more likely to be tow and less actives are scum lurking it out but I'm not sure why you thought my list was based on posts count, to begin with.
and honestly, I just dislike your slot currently.
I mean yeah, there are some lurkers but it's not like my suspicions lie solely on lurkers, and it's not like lurkers are immune from rolling scum pms. Your arguments are trash.
In post 5706, Nero Cain wrote:but I'm not the one that's making the argument that low posters are scum. I just happen to suspect some players that have low post counts. What do you dislike my slot for then?
In post 5731, Dunnstral wrote:And why do you suspect those players?In post 5706, Nero Cain wrote:but I'm not the one that's making the argument that low posters are scum. I just happen to suspect some players that have low post counts. What do you dislike my slot for then?
In post 5732, Nero Cain wrote:Don't you usually not give a shit when I scumread you?
In post 5733, Nero Cain wrote:klick makes a lot of sense to me as a wolf that was chainsaw defending catboi
In post 5734, Dunnstral wrote:Are you calling me a low poster?
In post 5735, Nero Cain wrote:I don't think I ever said that.
Full conversationIn post 5736, Nero Cain wrote:but also like
there's no way that catboi was the sole scum on this wagon.In post 5239, Cephrir wrote:Toogeloo (12) | SCP 682, Ydrasse, Menalque, butterchurn, tictac,catboi, mastina, Sword of Ducks, Save The Dragons, bnuuy, cassowary, Nashville Dreams
to me, SCP is obvious mafia.
YD's use of action was ??? and I felt Norway was scummy and would actually make alot of sense as mafia that wanted to see if cat/FL were Wolf together.
like I said earlier, I don't really like how Mena is doing nothing but whining about being scumread but he's prob not mafia.
churn is mafia
tictac is not mafia, could be wold but eh.
mastina just seems scummy.
I was mostly sheeping Titus on STD but STD is specifically pushing me as mafia so maybe he's wolf. IDK if that really makes sense? He voted Catboi for a min or two yesterday but kept trying to wagon elsewhere and ultimately landed on Toog. So maybe?
In post 4726, mastina wrote:I've given up on a readthrough.
I don't have the time/energy for it until too late. (I'd have the time/energy Thursday or so, but that's too late.)
I'm around and can vote any scumread.
VOTE: Toogeloo
^
trash votes
That's not what I said, this is deflecting againIn post 6271, Nero Cain wrote:and I think the thing about me pushing low posters is not an accurate description of my play.
Prove itIn post 6275, Nero Cain wrote:this is a lieIn post 6273, Dunnstral wrote:So yeah I would say you only talked about Klick
Looking back I like this from CSF and won't vote thereIn post 5749, Dunnstral wrote:This is a good pointIn post 5745, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Bnuuy i think is town by that metric; they kept getting run up as a counter wagon really fast
In post 5957, bnuuy wrote:VOTE: cat scratch fever
I don’t comprehend the scumcase on CSF at all but given the entire monastery is voting there it seems like a fair shake
bnuuy really doesn't look like town hereIn post 6427, bnuuy wrote:Ima keep it real I do think Dunn could be scum but I feel like the CSF wagon is okay too, while I don’t get the exact science of it I think Flavor Leaf’s pool of 4 theory seems sounds.In post 6407, Nero Cain wrote:We could vote for sure scum Dunn but this town is a clusterfuck and the game is a scum paridise
What is your reason for scumreading me?In post 6536, bnuuy wrote:If this is calling me scummy, I rlly don’t get why you’re on my ass for voting the wagon you are actively campaigning for.In post 6532, Nero Cain wrote:is this 2S2BS or blatant?
In post 6614, Nashville Dreams wrote:we've been over Dunn's problems
My role is that if I get investigated by a seer (werewolf sided cop equivalent) I appear as a werewolfIn post 6799, Ydrasse wrote:pedantry really but when i got my role my question was basically likeIn post 6797, cassowary wrote:hmm, then what's the point of specifying 'identical wincon' over just 'same alignment'? don't those mean the same thing?In post 6794, Ydrasse wrote:all four alignments have different wincons is the impression i have
"can wolves/mafia have the same wincon (beat all other threats) or like, wolves/malefactor"
and they cant
so i classify it as different wincons as what im checking for
it's not functionally different but it feels it
especially with a game with like a claimed werewolf miller lmao
Please link for me what I am ignoringIn post 6809, bnuuy wrote:Why is Dunnstral ignoring the case part of your question?In post 6807, Save The Dragons wrote:is there a concrete case laid against dunnstral somewhere that he ignored
viewtopic.php?p=13333943#p13333943In post 6802, Nero Cain wrote:am I annoyed? maybe. It's not at all impossible that I'm sublimely scumreading Dunn more than I really am just b/c he was being pissy that I wasn't explaining my gut read on him and he was OMGUSing me which, in turn, made me want to scumread him more.In post 6640, Save The Dragons wrote:dunnstral acted pretty much the same way and i was just as annoyed as nero is now
Although I did feel like he was a bit more "solvey" and proactive in the link you provided. And here most of what he did is just ask me about my scum read on him, ask a few mechanical q's and point out some mechanics so I stand by my statement that he's not really hunting.
I think in this post he just seems more inquisitive and 6550 it seems more like a vague accusation.In post 1520, Dunnstral wrote:I still don't understand why Save the Dragons has been calling me scum
but I do think that
Is pretty similar, though I felt like the times he asked me sounded a bit more forceful?In post 1524, Dunnstral wrote:I want you to explain why you've been calling me scum this game, including in the past
In your game you linked he's responded to you
Spoiler:
as where here he didn't respond to 6534 so it's kinda like he just isn't paying attention to this game.
Also felt like 6534 was floating the idea of a bnunny wagon which I felt like would be a decent thing to do if he was trying to get the wagon off of him b/c gamma is actually pretty scummy and might be scum here anyways.
What you asked does not match up to what they said and has the opposite implications of what they saidIn post 6816, bnuuy wrote:I don’t know if you are, that’s why I asked himIn post 6812, Dunnstral wrote:Please link for me what I am ignoringIn post 6809, bnuuy wrote:Why is Dunnstral ignoring the case part of your question?In post 6807, Save The Dragons wrote:is there a concrete case laid against dunnstral somewhere that he ignored
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=MillerA Parity Cop is a player who can investigate other players at night to determine which faction they belong to: different alignments give different results. However, the assignment of results to factions is effectively arbitrary, and the Parity Cop will thus not initially know which results will correspond to which alignments. As such, the role effectively just allows the Parity Cop to determine whether or not two players who they have investigated (at some point in the game) have the same alignment as each other.
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... e_.2849.29A Miller (sometimes called an Outsider) is a role or role modifier such that the player passively returns an unfavorable result (i.e. Guilty) if investigated by a Cop.
Hirsute: You will investigate as "GUILTY" to Seers.
That's not what it says thoughNero Cain wrote:a miller is explicitly a member of the town faction. If you are a miller you will be the same faction as me and if you aren't then you are scum.
The questions become:In post 6822, Dunnstral wrote:passively returns anunfavorable result (i.e. Guilty)if investigated by aCop.
You investigate as "GUILTY" if investigated by the role named cop
Yes, that's what I just said.Nero Cain wrote:If he investigates guilty to seers and parity cop isn't a seer does it not stand to reason that he wouldn't investigate as a guilty since YD isn't a seer?