LOST (Game Over)

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Pooky is also not the focus for now.

If he is still alive in 3 Days or whatever, then sure. But not now.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Malcolm, why are you so sure I'm town?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

BlueBloodedToffee - Obvtown

butterflies (Nancy Drew 39 and Flea The Magician)

Malakittens - Spewed town from Corwin

Taly - Spewed town from Math

PookyTheMagicalBear - Spewed town from Math

MalcolmTucker
Off the Hook (Gamma Emerald and Marcistar)

ProfessorDrapion - Tracker

Roden - Mason

Rad - Spewed town from Corwin

RCEnigma - Spewed town from Math

butterchurn - Mason

Mislim Bait

JohnnyFarrar - Spewed town from Bella

Cytosine and Guanine (Ircher and RH9) - Likely town from Bella choosing to vote them over Math instead of me?

T-Bone - Semi-confirmed from Pooky

Cat Scratch Fever - Spewed town from Bella (?)

Best Bird

That leaves;

Butterflies
Malcolm
OtH
Mislim
Best Bird

I'm not convinced on CSF, C&G, Rad or Johnny but I think I'm happy to go with this pool right now.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I understand I have to wait for a fair few people to die before I start pushing Butterflies so I just have to be patient with that one.

You shouldn't trust other people's reads either; especially when they're scum

Remember, they had Math at '80% town' and 'hard TR' Bella, too.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I have a really dumb theory about why Klick dropped that I won't even go over until end game, that's probably influencing me some, but I try not to let it.

Me too! I wonder if we have the same reason?!?!

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Yes!

[BlueBloodedToffee]

He did?

I mean, I thought he tried to kill me but some people still think I'm scum. So, what's your point and where did he try to kill you?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

88: MathBlade says that he would like to town read Dancing Puppets, but he needs a good reason to do so.

Is the most interesting line.

Did Math actually push this much in thread?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I was talking in relation to trusting other people's reads, but sure.

I said Math could be scum and voted them multiple times. Sure, I didn't end up on the elim wagon but at least my read was right.

Your slot has been wrong on two confirmed scum so far. Not even just slightly wrong either, like go to bat for them wrong. So, yeah, not comparable.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

OK, and I was staying busy scum hunting while waiting for a replacement, too. So, doesn't that negate your previous post?

Your slot said Math was 80% town and that was at start of D2 I believe.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Why are you so worried about my read?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You don't see how I could possibly think you're scum in this game? I mean, there is no reason to elim you from my PoE and on top of that you heavily town read both flipped scum.

Like, how do you not understand where this read could come from?

PEdit - Why is it scummy?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I didn't hard push Math, no. In fact, I probably haven't hard pushed anyone and I have stated why my play has been the way it has multiple times already.

The only times I looked for other wagons was when Math was being replaced. What is the point in an idle vote/push when gaining no more information?

I did defend Bella, yeah. I have explained that, too.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I mean, I told you that openly? Why would I do that as scum? Just state my entire game plan for the world to see, hahaha. That's silly.

I understand because of the meta circle we have in this game that elimming certain people (you being one of them) is difficult with x amount of people alive who won't consider you scum until D8 or some shit and nothing else starts to make sense.

Then people say 'Huh, maybe my meta read of X that I held on to for 750 pages is actually wrong and maybe they could actually be scum because of x, y and z.' That's when town's eyes are open to ALL possibilities. I have to wait for that to happen and I'm cool with that. I'm not going anywhere any time soon.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

have explained that, too.

I mean - that's the point. There are similarities in that you both defended scum and didn't vote for the wagons on flipped scum yet you are scum reading butterflies for it while saying "oh I have explained it" for you.[/quote]
Hi there,

I understand you feel the need to come and defend your scum buddy. However, as I previously stated, my reads on Math and Bella are simply not comparable to Butterflies.

I hope this clears things up for you.

Thanks for stopping by.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I don't know how I did that.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Hi again BB,

You will see that what you have quoted is not what we were discussing but for the sake of clarity, I shall address it.

I looked at other wagons once Math was being replaced. It seemed pointless to leave my vote on Math and not do much else while waiting.

I hope this clears things up for you.

Thanks for stopping by. Again.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

DP running me up to counter the Math wagon is a great point though. Well done, me!

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I try not to let scum influence my thoughts, you know?

PEdit - Malcolm, you're allowed to reverse your town read on me (I am voting you after all!). You didn't answer me when I asked why you were so sure I was town and that post looks like the start of you reversing the read.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

@Butterflies - No, I'm not.

I specifically said I understand I need to wait a few in-game days before I can push you. Silly.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Exactly, what you did NOT say is jack wrt how other flips would affect that.

I know. I mean, I guess if you absolutely nailed scum and were the main driver of a flipped scum wagon then I would have to reconsider.

Given your track record though, I don't see that happening

[BlueBloodedToffee]

That's not what I said.

Dipshit.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I don't know.

I'm not clued up on site rules and how IRL stuff may effect in game stuff.

Plus the theory feels really silly but could easily be true at the same time.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Mala, what do you make of OtH having pretty much the exact same role as you but it being X-shot?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

What do you think of 11292 ?

I was thinking CSF was scum for a while but this post put me off the idea.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

C&G needs to vote more
All days ended with them not voting anyone

This.

Mala is spewed town anyway Mislim

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Yeah, Corwin's push on Mala means she is almost always town here.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

OK, was there anyone else pushing her outside of Corwin?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm OK with one of Mala/OtH being scum given they both have the same role.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Johnny, CSF is spewed town from Bella, no?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Voting Malcolm

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Why are we elimming Mala again?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I’m to be insufferable all game. all fucking game..

I mean at least I can talk to the dead.

VOTE: dancingpuppets

Do scum really soft their role this early?

I don't think so.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

It does?

What info do you think it gives?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You said 'lots of useful info'.

Is that it?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Hmm, I suppose this doesn't really go anywhere but I don't see anyone pushing Mala hard really? Seems to be a flash wagon that just picked up from nowhere.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I got prodded.

I still support the Malcolm wagon.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

How many votes is that?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Just the 4 at the moment?

Light work. Keep going guys, you can do it.

Been trying to mislim me from Day One. It's not happening.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

BBT is a great counter wagon to just about anyone. If you see a wagon gaining momentum and you want to stop it, just vote for BBT. BOOM instant competing 3-6 person BBT wagon!

Still relevant I guess.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I still think Butterflies can be scum, I think CSF could be scum as well but I felt like Bella's read on CSF discounted this a bit.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I’m kind of getting buddy interactions with Corwin. Corwin engaged with BBT problem more than he did Frogs but on a very friendly way’

Thing was.
I’d expect BBT to vote Math when Math pushed them but BBT didn’t.
Like he didn’t want Math to go over

I did vote Math

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Executing a wolf isn’t a MisLim.

You're so silly.

I'm town.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Aw don’t even wanna challenge me?
That’s no fun.

You're probably just tracker? Like, if you're scum and threw Bella under the bus for no reason then ggs I guess?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Oh, you mean the final wagon. Yeah, that's not what you said.

Sure, I wasn't on the final wagon.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Would you expect scum!BBT to make a big deal out of voting their buddy or not?

I was voting Math before DP started their BS push on me and took my attention away.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

This one happened before the other game, no?

I flip flop a lot in regards to my read on you - so what?

Also, meta is awful. Different games and different situations.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You can hard disagree all you like. Your meta reads this game have been garbage and you tried to use meta to read me and it was equally as bad.

Just because we thought the same thing it doesn't make us the same alignment. Especially when me thinking was way out there simply based on the fact I wanted Bella to be town more than anything actually content based.

I've scum read your slot for the majority of the game.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Oh, I see.

It's only AI if it fits the narrative you're pushing, right?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

So far you have one correct read, congrats I guess?

Your meta read on me - garbage
Meta read on Bella - garbage
Your 'Math is 80% town' - garbage.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Insults? Just facts, your reads have been garbage and you base them largely on meta. Your slot was hard TR Bella, don't try and pretend otherwise.

I don't particularly care about your reads from other games either.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Is it typical for you always to be confrontational and unpleasant? Because it’s hella annoying frankly, whatever you are in this game.

I don't know, I guess you could do a survey or something with people I have played with?

I'm sorry if facts upset you or make me unpleasant. That's just the way it is unfortunately.

Whats the beef and whats your actual thoughts on this slot? You're a spicy bean and I got energy to spare.

-Butterflea

The beef is your slot has been scum reading me for a long time and usually based on very bad reasoning and as such my OMGUS has kicked in and it leads me to believe there is no way that town can have so many bad takes, you know?

Plus, your slot hard town read both flipped scum and that's kind of yikes. You get me?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I don't think I was talking down at all, Nancy asked where her meta reads were garbage and I showed her and she didn't like it.

Also, saying you were right about town is like 'so what?' Scum know who town are and can easily produce reasoning for someone to be town when they know that that person is town. Scum reads are much more interesting and so far you've town read both scum and are scum reading me. So, it doesn't look good, you know?

I admitted to OMGUS at the start of D2, the second DP started their BS push on me which was absurd. As soon as I feel like I'm being pushed in bad faith, I'm going to focus in on that player.

Again, my beef with your slot is; a) bad reads and b) a bad push on me.

Johnny just soul read me. God damn.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I haven't been just pushing your slot for 3 days, but sure?

The reasons that were valid on D2 are still valid now but with some additions.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Keep reading my good friend.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You talking about another game yet again as if it has any relevance on this game whatsoever?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

UNVOTE:

If Malcolm is scum pocketing me, so be it.

I don't know who to vote. I could vote Mala I guess, but meh. Johnny is prob spewed town from Bella so don't really want to go there.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Oh.

Read again?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You don't see what reads I am referring to?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

In what world is Drap scum?

Mala, why are you voting me?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Tut tut tut

You really shouldn't be voting for me

[BlueBloodedToffee]

VOTE: Mala

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I mean, sure. But that doesn't seem a viable choice right now

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Gonna try and collect all the VC data, I haven't included all VCs but got the majority were something was happening. Analysis will come later because I think this is gonna take a while.

Spoiler: D1 VCs

Vote Count 1.6

7

Cephrir

(Klick,

Bellaphant

, BlueBloodedToffee,

Dwlee99

, PookyTheMagicalBear, PenguinPower, The toad)

2 PookyTheMagicalBear (

Lukewarm

,

Bell

)

1

Enchant

(

Cephrir

)
1 Off The Hook (Galron)
1 Rad (The toad)
1

Corwin

(Cytosine and Guanine)
1 Dancing Puppets (Malakittens)
1 BlueBloodedToffee (Cat Scratch Fever)
1 Galron (Off the Hook)
1 Klick (Rad)
1 Cat Scratch Fever (

Frogsterking

)

Not Voting (Dancing Puppets, Toogeloo, MalcolmTucker, ,

Roden

,

Corwinoid

,

Enchant

,

Dunnstral

, JohnnyFarrar, T-Bone)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Vote Count 1.12

4

Cephrir

(BlueBloodedToffee,

Dwlee99

, PookyTheMagicalBear,

Bell

)
4

Frogsterking

(JohnnyFarrar,

Roden

,

Cephrir

,

Lukewarm

)

2 The toad (Rad, Cat Scratch Fever)
2 Galron (

Bellaphant

, The toad)
2 T-Bone (PenguinPower,

Enchant

)

1

Bellaphant

(

Frogsterking

)
1 Dancing Puppets (Malakittens)
1

Lukewarm

(Galron)
1 Rad (Off the Hook)

Not Voting (Dancing Puppets, Toogeloo, MalcolmTucker,

Corwinoid

,

Dunnstral

, T-Bone, Cytosine and Guanine, Klick)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Vote Count 1.16

6

Frogsterking

(JohnnyFarrar,

Roden

,

Cephrir

,

Lukewarm

, Galron, BlueBloodedToffee)

3 BlueBloodedToffee (

Dunnstral

, Cat Scratch Fever,

Frogsterking

)

2 Galron (

Bellaphant

, The toad)
2 T-Bone (PenguinPower,

Enchant

)

1

Cephrir

(PookyTheMagicalBear)
1 The toad (Rad)
1 Dancing Puppets (Malakittens)
1 Rad (Off the Hook)
1

Bell

(T-Bone)
1

Dwlee99

(

Bell

)

Not Voting (Dancing Puppets, Taly, MalcolmTucker,

Corwinoid

, Cytosine and Guanine, Klick,

Dwlee99

)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Vote Count 1.17

5

Frogsterking

(JohnnyFarrar,

Roden

,

Lukewarm

, Galron, BlueBloodedToffee)
5 BlueBloodedToffee (

Dunnstral

, Cat Scratch Fever,

Frogsterking

,

Cephrir

, PenguinPower)

2 Galron (

Bellaphant

, The toad)

1 T-Bone (

Enchant

)
1

Cephrir

(PookyTheMagicalBear)
1 The toad (Rad)
1 Dancing Puppets (Malakittens)
1 Rad (Off the Hook)
1

Bell

(T-Bone)
1

Dwlee99

(

Bell

)

Not Voting (Dancing Puppets, Taly, MalcolmTucker,

Corwinoid

, Cytosine and Guanine, Klick,

Dwlee99

)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Vote Count 1.20

7

Frogsterking

(JohnnyFarrar,

Roden

,

Lukewarm

, Galron, BlueBloodedToffee, Dancing Puppets,

Enchant

)

6 BlueBloodedToffee (

Dunnstral

, Cat Scratch Fever,

Frogsterking

,

Cephrir

, PenguinPower,

Bellaphant

)

1 Galron (The toad)
1

Cephrir

(PookyTheMagicalBear)
1 The toad (Rad)
1 Dancing Puppets (Malakittens)
1 Rad (Off the Hook)
1

Bell

(T-Bone)
1 Cytosine and Guanine (

Bell

)

Not Voting (Taly, MalcolmTucker,

Corwinoid

, Cytosine and Guanine, Klick,

Dwlee99

)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Vote Count 1.22

4

Frogsterking

(JohnnyFarrar,

Lukewarm

, Galron,

Enchant

)
4

Cephrir

(PookyTheMagicalBear,

Frogsterking

,

Roden

, Klick)

2 BlueBloodedToffee (

Dunnstral

, PenguinPower)

1 Galron (The toad)
1 T-Bone (Rad)
1 Dancing Puppets (Malakittens)
1

Bell

(T-Bone)
1 Cytosine and Guanine (

Bell

)
1 PookyTheMagicalBear (

Dwlee99

)
1 JohnnyFarrar (Cat Scratch Fever)

Not Voting (Taly, MalcolmTucker,

Corwinoid

, Cytosine and Guanine, Off the Hook, BlueBloodedToffee,

Bellaphant

, Dancing Puppets,

Cephrir

)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Vote Count 1.26

6

Mathblade

(PookyTheMagicalBear, Rad,

Dunnstral

, Klick,

Cephrir

,

Bell

)

3 Klick (

Lukewarm

, T-Bone, Dancing Puppets)

2 Dancing Puppets (Malakittens, Best Bird)
2 JohnnyFarrar (Off the Hook, MalcolmTucker)

1

Roden

(Cat Scratch Fever)
1 MalcolmTucker (JohnnyFarrar)
1

Frogsterking

(

Mathblade

)
1

Cephrir

(

Roden

)
1 ProfessorDrapion (The toad)
1 PookyTheMagicalBear (

Dwlee99

)
1

Dunnstral

(BlueBloodedToffee)
1 PenguinPower (

Enchant

)
1

Dwlee99

(

Frogsterking

)
1 Rad (ProfessorDrapion)

Not Voting (Taly, Cytosine and Guanine,

Bellaphant

)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Vote Count 1.27

7

Roden

(

Frogsterking

, Cat Scratch Fever, Cytosine and Guanine, MalcolmTucker,

Bellaphant

,

Dunnstral

, Klick)

3 Klick (

Lukewarm

, T-Bone,

Bell

)

2 Dancing Puppets (Malakittens, Best Bird)
2

Mathblade

(

Cephrir

, ProfessorDrapion)
2 MalcolmTucker (JohnnyFarrar,

Enchant

)

1 JohnnyFarrar (Off the Hook)
1

Frogsterking

(

Mathblade

)
1

Cephrir

(

Roden

)
1 ProfessorDrapion (The toad)
1 PookyTheMagicalBear (

Dwlee99

)
1

Dunnstral

(BlueBloodedToffee)


Not Voting (Taly, PookyTheMagicalBear, Rad, Dancing Puppets)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Vote Count 1.27

5

Frogsterking

(ProfessorDrapion,

Enchant

, Taly, PookyTheMagicalBear,

Lukewarm

)

3 Malakittens (Rad, Klick,

Bellaphant

)
3 Taly (Malakittens,

Bell

,

Cephrir

)
3

Dunnstral

(BlueBloodedToffee,

Roden

, JohnnyFarrar)

2 JohnnyFarrar (Off the Hook, RCEnigma)
2

Enchant

(

Frogsterking

, T-Bone)

1

Cephrir

(Cat Scratch Fever)
1 Klick (

Mathblade

)
1 Dancing Puppets (Best Bird)
1 PookyTheMagicalBear (

Dwlee99

)

Not Voting (MalcolmTucker, Cytosine and Guanine,

Dunnstral

, Dancing Puppets)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Vote Count 1.28

6 Malakittens (Rad, Klick,

Bellaphant

, Dancing Puppets, Cat Scratch Fever,

Frogsterking

)
6

Frogsterking

(ProfessorDrapion,

Enchant

, Taly, PookyTheMagicalBear,

Lukewarm

,

Mathblade

)

3 Taly (Malakittens,

Bell

,

Cephrir

)
3

Dunnstral

(BlueBloodedToffee,

Roden

, JohnnyFarrar)

2 JohnnyFarrar (Off the Hook, RCEnigma)

1

Enchant

(T-Bone)
1 Dancing Puppets (Best Bird)
1 PookyTheMagicalBear (

Dwlee99

)

Not Voting (MalcolmTucker, Cytosine and Guanine,

Dunnstral

)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Vote Count 1.29

6

Frogsterking

(ProfessorDrapion, Taly, PookyTheMagicalBear,

Mathblade

,

Lukewarm

, JohnnyFarrar)

4 JohnnyFarrar (Off the Hook, RCEnigma, MalcolmTucker,

Cephrir

)
4 Taly (Malakittens,

Bell

,

Dunnstral

, Cat Scratch Fever)

3 Malakittens (Klick,

Bellaphant

, T-Bone)

2

Dunnstral

(BlueBloodedToffee,

Roden

)

1 PookyTheMagicalBear (

Dwlee99

)
1 Dancing Puppets (Best Bird)
1

Cephrir

(Dancing Puppets)
1

Lukewarm

(

Frogsterking

)

Not Voting (Cytosine and Guanine, Rad,

Enchant

)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Not sure whether to include gladiate VCs either, might come back to that later.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Damn, D2 was a quick day. Didn't actually realise how quick that all happened.

Spoiler: D2 VCs

Vote Count 2.1

7

Mathblade

(

Lukewarm

,

Bell

, Taly, Cat Scratch Fever, BlueBloodedToffee, RCEnigma, Off the Hook)
3 Bluebloodedtoffee (

Mathblade

,

Roden

, Dancing Puppets)
1 JohnnyFarrar (PookyTheMagicalBear)
1

Bellaphant

(ProfessorDrapion)
1 Cytosine and Guanine (Rad)
1 Taly (

Enchant

)

Not Voting (

Bellaphant

,

Dwlee99

, Best Bird, JohnnyFarrar, Malakittens, T-Bone, Mislim Bait, MalcolmTucker)

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to yeet.

Vote Count 2.3

5

Mathblade

(

Lukewarm

,

Bell

, Taly, RCEnigma, PookyTheMagicalBear)
4 Bluebloodedtoffee (

Mathblade

,

Roden

, Mislim Bait, Cat Scratch Fever)

3 Cytosine and Guanine (Rad, BlueBloodedToffee, T-Bone)

1

Enchant

(Dancing Puppets)
1

Bellaphant

(ProfessorDrapion)
1 Dancing Puppets (

Enchant

)

Not Voting (

Bellaphant

,

butterchurn

, Best Bird, JohnnyFarrar, Malakittens, MalcolmTucker, Cytosine and Guanine, Off the Hook)

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to yeet.

Vote Count 2.4

12

Mathblade

(

Bell

, Taly, RCEnigma, ProfessorDrapion,

butterchurn

, Cat Scratch Fever, MalcolmTucker, Rad, PookyTheMagicalBear, Best Bird, Off the Hook,

Bellaphant

)

4 Cytosine and Guanine (BlueBloodedToffee, T-Bone,

Lukewarm

, JohnnyFarrar)

2 Bluebloodedtoffee (

Mathblade

,

Roden

)

1 MalcolmTucker (Mislim Bait)
1

Enchant

(Dancing Puppets)
1 Dancing Puppets (

Enchant

)

Not Voting (Malakittens, Cytosine and Guanine)

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to yeet.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Flavor

Vote Count 5.1

4 Rad (butterchurn, MalcolmTucker, Best Bird, PookyTheMagicalBear)

3 MalcolmTucker (BlueBloodedToffee, Rad, Mislim Bait)

2 Bluebloodedtoffee (ProfessorDrapion, butterflies)
2 JohnnyFarrar (Cat Scratch Fever, Off the Hook)

1 Best Bird (Roden)

Not Voting (Cytosine and Guanine, Taly, Enchant, RCEnigma, Malakittens, Lukewarm, T-Bone, JohnnyFarrar)

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to yeet.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-08-13 19:28:13)

Mod Notes

i don't know who mail in is

Flavor

Vote Count 5.2

5 MalcolmTucker (BlueBloodedToffee, Mislim Bait, ProfessorDrapion, Cytosine and Guanine, Rad)

4 Rad (butterchurn, MalcolmTucker, Best Bird, PookyTheMagicalBear)

2 JohnnyFarrar (Cat Scratch Fever, Off the Hook)

1 Bluebloodedtoffee (butterflies)
1 Cat Scratch Fever (JohnnyFarrar)
1 Malakittens (Malakittens)
1 Best Bird (Roden)

Not Voting (Taly, RCEnigma, Malakittens, T-Bone)

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to yeet.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-08-13 19:28:13)

Mod Notes

Flavor

Vote Count 5.3

5 MalcolmTucker (BlueBloodedToffee, Mislim Bait, Cytosine and Guanine)
5 Malakittens (Malakittens, Best Bird, Rad, butterchurn, ProfessorDrapion, butterflies)

2 Rad (MalcolmTucker, PookyTheMagicalBear)
2 JohnnyFarrar (Cat Scratch Fever, Off the Hook)

1 Cat Scratch Fever (JohnnyFarrar)
1 Best Bird (Roden)
1 ProfessorDrapion (T-Bone)

Not Voting (Taly, RCEnigma)

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to yeet.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-08-13 19:28:13)

Mod Notes

Flavor

Vote Count 5.4

7 MalcolmTucker (BlueBloodedToffee, Mislim Bait, Cytosine and Guanine, Cat Scratch Fever, Malakittens)

4 Malakittens (Best Bird, Rad, butterchurn, ProfessorDrapion, MalcolmTucker)

1 Rad (PookyTheMagicalBear)
1 JohnnyFarrar (Off the Hook)

1 Cat Scratch Fever (JohnnyFarrar)
1 Best Bird (Roden)
1 Mislim Bait (T-Bone)

Not Voting (Taly, RCEnigma, butterflies)

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to yeet.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-08-13 19:28:13)

Mod Notes

D3 and D4 were pretty straight forward - only one wagon in any of the VCs

That was quicker than I thought, will have a look in detail a little later today hopefully

[BlueBloodedToffee]

We're not elimming me, you should stop pushing me.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I can see that, I am trying to show you the correct way.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm the leading wagon.

That's not good

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm glad you agree.

How about you unvote now?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Because you know I'm town so unvote.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Like, in what world am I scum with Math and Bella?

It just isn't possible.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Even if you discard Math, how can I be scum with Bella? It literally makes 0 sense and you know it.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Me?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Rad, am I viable? You haven't said much

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Alright, you have been fairly quiet considering someone you're town reading is being wagoned and is the leading wagon.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I don't see how that post comes across as talking to someone as if they're an idiot.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Rad I'm not scum and I'm not getting flipped either.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

If you're scum here I'm probably flipped next so that's cool. If you're town I get to try to figure out what scum is pushing you here.

How about you figure out which scum is pushing me now?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You better believe the second, it's not happening.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Can you walk me through why Mala is scum because I'm really not happy with my vote there. Self-preservation and all that

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Did Mala respond to that? As far as I am aware, emotional outbursts are NAI for her?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Do you think her role fits in with being scum?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I suppose so.

It is her role I think, she sorted extremely early.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Softed. Not sorted.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

She has 180d on me for no apparent reason either.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You still haven't unvoted me

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Seems fair enough Rad.

Good job I won't be yeeted over Mala. That would be bad for the health of this town.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You still haven't unvoted me

I was seriously reconsidering switching to Mala but you continue to keep making these kinds of posts.

I’m not going to unvote you just because you keep demanding that I do. Give me reasons or stop wasting my time.

Consider it some more until you come to the correct decision then

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm not scummy.

I've been obvtown as fuck all game.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

My non friendly approach. What the fuck.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I keep telling you I'm town but you're not listening.

Rad, tell them I'm town.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

My non friendly approach. What the fuck.

I mean - Rad's not wrong...

I'm offended.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Yay!

Thanks!

[BlueBloodedToffee]

There is never a world where I'm scum in this game.

Much less so with Nancy.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm not viable.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

CSF's voting history is really bad if anyone cares for that sort of thing.

Rad, stop suggesting me. Thanks.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I wonder if the game is stale because scum are happy with the current game state?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I suppose if Mala is scum though my wagon did spring up rather fast.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Rad, you mentioned me again.

Stop it.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Rad, stop it.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Gamma with some saucy shit.

It's not me or Drap though.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Why does Drap (and the scum team) throw Bella under the bus?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Hi BB,

You mentioned me as a wagon. Can you stop please?

Thanks. Much appreciated.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Also, if Drap is scum and he thinks Johnny is Doc, why is Johnny alive?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Why does Drap (and the scum team) throw Bella under the bus?

My theory actually covers that!

~GE

I'm intrigued.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I fucking hate that I’m not confident on any srs this late in the game but I think as long as we don’t lim from my townblock, hopefully we get there.

Am I on your town block yet?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

When Rad says top wagons he means Mala.

Thanks for reading.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Drap is a scum badass. I read a scum game of his at beginning of this game. He takes charge and I can see him coming up with a scum master plan involving bussing everyone. Given the right team I can see it here.

I also try my hardest to ignore crazy ideas so I'm just letting drap be the masterful town scum hunter here.

Please vote in the top wagons, absolutely not drap lol

Bella played it well if it was orchestrated. She seemed caught off guard.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Johnny is an interesting vote fo' sho'

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I guess that makes sense.

Moving Doc off Drap if Drap is tracker is bad though

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Why isn't Johnny going through?

3 days is a long time. Only took 12 hours (maybe exaggerating) for my wagon to become lead wagon.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Don't get mad at me.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Don't be like that, Gamma.

I've had more than my fair share of shit this game. Someone else's turn

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You know what I hate?

When people meta read me correctly. That shit is annoying.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Because I'm town, silly.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

BBT!town makes Drap scum, am I right?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

No, it does.

You're so sure I'm scum so when I flip green you can eat an elim.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

CSF's voting history is really bad if anyone cares for that sort of thing.

Rad, stop suggesting me. Thanks.

What votes are bad?

So many.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

the resistance to ALL of the wagons is absurd, but you are starting from basically scratch (haha) here vs. two viable wagons with a potential third.

I don't particularly like either of the main wagons. What am I to do? Happy to move to Malcolm. I could also put my vote back on BBT i guess.

But you said this after my post CSF?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

CSF said she would vote me after it though so I'm thinking she was told in scum PT after the fact.

I might as well full claim now, right?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Right, but now you're saying I'm town and don't want to elim me. So what changed?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

VOTE: Malcolm

Happy to do Johnny as always

I'd probably vote mala over BBT atp

Stay tuned for more read changes from yours truly

And this

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You're not sure I'm town but are now willing to vote Malcolm, Johnny, and Mala before me? Even though you were town reading Mala?

You're making 0 sense

[BlueBloodedToffee]

VOTE: CSF

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Let's see if it does get support.

If not, I'll join a consensus wagon.

CSF's voting history this game has been shocking and these past few pages have made no sense at all from a town!CSF perspective.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

It's weird because you're acting like you saw my soft and used that as reasoning for unvoting me and not wanting to elim me even though you said you would still vote me afterwards which probably means you were told in your scum PT about my soft and have tried to use that reasoning retroactively when it just doesn't fit with your play

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Why would you still say you would be open to voting me?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Why would you still say you would be open to voting me?

By saying you would still be open to voting me then this would imply that you did not in fact see my soft and were told about it afterwards, no?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

It's weird because you're acting like you saw my soft and used that as reasoning for unvoting me and not wanting to elim me even though you said you would still vote me afterwards which probably means you were told in your scum PT about my soft and have tried to use that reasoning retroactively when it just doesn't fit with your play

I was still willing to revote you because you can still be scum ugh. If im wrong, it wasn't worth the risk over voting Johnny who is almost certainly not a doctor atp

Nobody should have been thinking he was doc anyway because there has only been one person ever mentioning it and they had no evidence whatsoever to back it up. So like, wtf?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Why else would i unvote you in the first place if I hadn't see a soft?

All you've done since I voted you is say useless things like "I'm town, you're silly for voting me". What other reason do i even bave to unvote you and reconsider?

Thread flow? One of my loudest pushers (Butterflies) changed their vote off of me and onto Mala, Rad was also posting in thread at the time saying I was town. Tone of thread was changing again in terms of a BBT elim not looking likely.

Not long after, you move off of me and onto Johnny. You realise the wagon is losing steam and start to look elsewhere.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Oh hmm?
Did it make you mad that because people believed my claim, Johnny was no longer an option for ML?

SO mad. I was raging. I almost didn't finish my sentence because I was mashing the keyboard so hard.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Mala, can you talk about your 180 on me please?

The town read to scum read 180, not the most recent one.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Thoughts on CSF Mala?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Also, just for clarity, I claim Doc. Flavour is Jack.

T-Bone, do not waste your protect on me. I am Macho. This is another reason I believed Bella's claim but I obviously couldn't reveal.

I hope my play makes a little more sense this game in terms of trying not to be too widely town read. Unfortunately, I got very widely scum read and couldn't really recover.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

So, Drap, how about eating that elim?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

CSF, you saw a doctor soft and decided you still might vote me because scum could have two docs in this game?

That's what you're saying?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Lol at being Jack and not a Doctor.

That's funny shit

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I protected Luke N1, BB N2 (think their role was outed and wanted to make sure we got use out of it), then Drap on 3 and 4.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You seemed sure when you outed it CSF

[BlueBloodedToffee]

If scum, you probably aren't even a doctor? @bbt

This is present tense CSF, like you're doubting it now.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Mostly tongue in cheek BB.

Kind of wondering about OTH theory as well though

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I just think the whole thing seems off? Did scum really go for Drap knowing there was likely a protective role?

Could Drap be scum who gained ultimate cred by throwing Bella under the bus and then scum, knowing Doc would be almost forced onto Drap, perform a no kill?

Or even just force Doc onto Drap to allow them to kill freely elsewhere? I don't know, just something to think about.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Who did you jail N1?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I don't know what that means

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Just Wiki'd it. My bad

[BlueBloodedToffee]

UNVOTE:

Scum targeting Butter makes more sense than targeting Drap N3, no?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I don't know what you're implying there

[BlueBloodedToffee]

The sheer level of smarmy git in this single sentence...

I ain't even going to consider you at this point, ngl.

-Butterflea

You didn't like it?

Who do you think Klick had scum theatre with? Bella or Math?

Mislim Bait is probably town, no?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

So we just waiting for the Masons to check in and move off my wagon I'm guessing?

Game feels difficult. A lot more difficult than it should be given we have two flipped scum.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

VOTE: Mala

Hammer time.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

like dude is a claimed investigative who's somehow survived multiple nights post claim and done jack-all since his big "catch" while unclaimed cleared players get shot

smells fishy af to me

I'm actually on board with this. I feel like I've been forced to protect Drap night after night after night after the 'track' on Bella and it's allowed scum to start killing more freely.

Just for clarity, I protected Drap again last night. I find it wild that he didn't track me.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

It's bought him 3 days and bought scum 2 (?) kills?

The only concern I have is the N3 no kill, but RCE claimed BP so maybe that explains that one?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You don't think it's beneficial for scum to tie up the Doc?

The fact I wasn't killed and Drap is immediately 'BBT is scum' is bad as well.

He also didn't track me despite scum reading me, would have been a good way to confirm my claim.

None of it adds up

[BlueBloodedToffee]

What Mafia roles would you expect to visit Drap?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

It very likely does though? Given he was scum reading me, and clearly skeptical of my claim, then it makes sense from a town!Drap POV, no?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Alright. How much of the game did you manage to read?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Why did you read RC's posts?

Have you ISO'd Mod for flips etc?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I saw one of Rad's catch up posts a while back

How did you come across this?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I know, but you know the alignment you replaced into so reading the one slot whose alignment you know is strange.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Alright

And how did you come across that post from Rad?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

So you chose that part to randomly read? If so, why?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm sorry, just help me out here.

You were skimming through 500+ pages and that post from Rad just happened to catch your eye?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Can you quote the post you're talking about? Just for clarity.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

So you have read the past 30 pages or so Furtive?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Have you managed to gain any reads from what you have read?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

VOTE: Malcolm

What are your thoughts on Best Bird, Rad?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Probably just town. Scum!bb scenario is too convoluted so I'm not going to worry about it.

Talk me through it?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Huh.

I'm intrigued that you have a player who you don't seem to have a real read on and you don't want to investigate it further, in addition to this, you immediately begin to push a counter wagon in Malcolm.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Thanks, it's my actual birthday not my scumday!

I'm not particularly interested in voting you right now, but when you write a lot of words like that and they don't really say anything, it makes me want to vote you, you know?

Anyway, you become much more interesting if BB flips red.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Nice.

VOTE: Rad

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Thanks BB!

[BlueBloodedToffee]

That's something I actually need to look at earlier in the game.

Can't do any VCA in relation to your wagon yet I'm afraid.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I was the obvious NK last night, too.

Yet here I am...

[BlueBloodedToffee]

BBT I’m down for a C&G wagon how about you?

You want your scum read to join you on a wagon?

I'm down to elim C&G, sure. Get a wagon going.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

dont think rad or malcolm are scum

So who is?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Thanks!

Talk a little bit about Johnny being scum? I remember thinking they were town spewed from Bella but I'm not so sure anymore?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Nancy, you really think scum work so openly together?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I don't know, I flip on them a lot.

There aren't many posts that make me think town and I think a lot of the read comes down to Bella voting them over Math. But Math was almost definitely getting elimmed anyway so if Bella was bussing it was pretty safe?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

It’s possible I could be wrong on one but Luke is dead and hard sr RAD and both Bell and Luke were and Drap clearly believed T-Bone was doc and not you. If I’m wrong on one, maybe Johnny because he was jk’d but not even remotely confident on that at all but for sure there’s definitely scum in those three and if RAD and Drap are unaligned then why isn’t either of them even remotely suspicious of how hard each of them have been defending each other?

Hmm, yeah, I like this a lot actually.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Based on play alone, I would be hugely surprised if Rad is scum.

But I thought the same about Bella so clearly I'm having a bad game.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Just updating these for now. Still not a whole lot to go of from a quick skim

Spoiler: D1 VCs

Vote Count 1.6

7

Cephrir

(Klick,

Bellaphant

, BlueBloodedToffee,

Dwlee99

, PookyTheMagicalBear, PenguinPower, The toad)

2 PookyTheMagicalBear (

Lukewarm

,

Bell

)

1

Enchant

(

Cephrir

)
1 Off The Hook (Galron)
1 Rad (The toad)
1

Corwin

(Cytosine and Guanine)
1 Dancing Puppets (

Malakittens

)
1 BlueBloodedToffee (Cat Scratch Fever)
1 Galron (Off the Hook)
1 Klick (Rad)
1 Cat Scratch Fever (

Frogsterking

)

Not Voting (Dancing Puppets, Toogeloo, MalcolmTucker, ,

Roden

,

Corwinoid

,

Enchant

,

Dunnstral

, JohnnyFarrar,

T-Bone

)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Vote Count 1.12

4

Cephrir

(BlueBloodedToffee,

Dwlee99

, PookyTheMagicalBear,

Bell

)
4

Frogsterking

(JohnnyFarrar,

Roden

,

Cephrir

,

Lukewarm

)

2 The toad (Rad, Cat Scratch Fever)
2 Galron (

Bellaphant

, The toad)
2

T-Bone

(PenguinPower,

Enchant

)

1

Bellaphant

(

Frogsterking

)
1 Dancing Puppets (

Malakittens

)
1

Lukewarm

(Galron)
1 Rad (Off the Hook)

Not Voting (Dancing Puppets, Toogeloo, MalcolmTucker,

Corwinoid

,

Dunnstral

,

T-Bone

, Cytosine and Guanine, Klick)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Vote Count 1.16

6

Frogsterking

(JohnnyFarrar,

Roden

,

Cephrir

,

Lukewarm

, Galron, BlueBloodedToffee)

3 BlueBloodedToffee (

Dunnstral

, Cat Scratch Fever,

Frogsterking

)

2 Galron (

Bellaphant

, The toad)
2

T-Bone

(PenguinPower,

Enchant

)

1

Cephrir

(PookyTheMagicalBear)
1 The toad (Rad)
1 Dancing Puppets (

Malakittens

)
1 Rad (Off the Hook)
1

Bell

(

T-Bone

)
1

Dwlee99

(

Bell

)

Not Voting (Dancing Puppets, Taly, MalcolmTucker,

Corwinoid

, Cytosine and Guanine, Klick,

Dwlee99

)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Vote Count 1.17

5

Frogsterking

(JohnnyFarrar,

Roden

,

Lukewarm

, Galron, BlueBloodedToffee)
5 BlueBloodedToffee (

Dunnstral

, Cat Scratch Fever,

Frogsterking

,

Cephrir

, PenguinPower)

2 Galron (

Bellaphant

, The toad)

1

T-Bone

(

Enchant

)
1

Cephrir

(PookyTheMagicalBear)
1 The toad (Rad)
1 Dancing Puppets (

Malakittens

)
1 Rad (Off the Hook)
1

Bell

(

T-Bone

)
1

Dwlee99

(

Bell

)

Not Voting (Dancing Puppets, Taly, MalcolmTucker,

Corwinoid

, Cytosine and Guanine, Klick,

Dwlee99

)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Vote Count 1.20

7

Frogsterking

(JohnnyFarrar,

Roden

,

Lukewarm

, Galron, BlueBloodedToffee, Dancing Puppets,

Enchant

)

6 BlueBloodedToffee (

Dunnstral

, Cat Scratch Fever,

Frogsterking

,

Cephrir

, PenguinPower,

Bellaphant

)

1 Galron (The toad)
1

Cephrir

(PookyTheMagicalBear)
1 The toad (Rad)
1 Dancing Puppets (

Malakittens

)
1 Rad (Off the Hook)
1

Bell

(

T-Bone

)
1 Cytosine and Guanine (

Bell

)

Not Voting (Taly, MalcolmTucker,

Corwinoid

, Cytosine and Guanine, Klick,

Dwlee99

)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Vote Count 1.22

4

Frogsterking

(JohnnyFarrar,

Lukewarm

, Galron,

Enchant

)
4

Cephrir

(PookyTheMagicalBear,

Frogsterking

,

Roden

, Klick)

2 BlueBloodedToffee (

Dunnstral

, PenguinPower)

1 Galron (The toad)
1

T-Bone

(Rad)
1 Dancing Puppets (

Malakittens

)
1

Bell

(T-Bone)
1 Cytosine and Guanine (

Bell

)
1 PookyTheMagicalBear (

Dwlee99

)
1 JohnnyFarrar (Cat Scratch Fever)

Not Voting (Taly, MalcolmTucker,

Corwinoid

, Cytosine and Guanine, Off the Hook, BlueBloodedToffee,

Bellaphant

, Dancing Puppets,

Cephrir

)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Vote Count 1.26

6

Mathblade

(PookyTheMagicalBear, Rad,

Dunnstral

, Klick,

Cephrir

,

Bell

)

3 Klick (

Lukewarm

,

T-Bone

, Dancing Puppets)

2 Dancing Puppets (

Malakittens

, Best Bird)
2 JohnnyFarrar (Off the Hook, MalcolmTucker)

1

Roden

(Cat Scratch Fever)
1 MalcolmTucker (JohnnyFarrar)
1

Frogsterking

(

Mathblade

)
1

Cephrir

(

Roden

)
1 ProfessorDrapion (The toad)
1 PookyTheMagicalBear (

Dwlee99

)
1

Dunnstral

(BlueBloodedToffee)
1 PenguinPower (

Enchant

)
1

Dwlee99

(

Frogsterking

)
1 Rad (ProfessorDrapion)

Not Voting (Taly, Cytosine and Guanine,

Bellaphant

)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Vote Count 1.27

7

Roden

(

Frogsterking

, Cat Scratch Fever, Cytosine and Guanine, MalcolmTucker,

Bellaphant

,

Dunnstral

, Klick)

3 Klick (

Lukewarm

,

T-Bone

,

Bell

)

2 Dancing Puppets (

Malakittens

, Best Bird)
2

Mathblade

(

Cephrir

, ProfessorDrapion)
2 MalcolmTucker (JohnnyFarrar,

Enchant

)

1 JohnnyFarrar (Off the Hook)
1

Frogsterking

(

Mathblade

)
1

Cephrir

(

Roden

)
1 ProfessorDrapion (The toad)
1 PookyTheMagicalBear (

Dwlee99

)
1

Dunnstral

(BlueBloodedToffee)


Not Voting (Taly, PookyTheMagicalBear, Rad, Dancing Puppets)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Vote Count 1.27

5

Frogsterking

(ProfessorDrapion,

Enchant

, Taly, PookyTheMagicalBear,

Lukewarm

)

3

Malakittens

(Rad, Klick,

Bellaphant

)
3 Taly (

Malakittens

,

Bell

,

Cephrir

)
3

Dunnstral

(BlueBloodedToffee,

Roden

, JohnnyFarrar)

2 JohnnyFarrar (Off the Hook, RCEnigma)
2

Enchant

(

Frogsterking

,

T-Bone

)

1

Cephrir

(Cat Scratch Fever)
1 Klick (

Mathblade

)
1 Dancing Puppets (Best Bird)
1 PookyTheMagicalBear (

Dwlee99

)

Not Voting (MalcolmTucker, Cytosine and Guanine,

Dunnstral

, Dancing Puppets)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Vote Count 1.28

6

Malakittens

(Rad, Klick,

Bellaphant

, Dancing Puppets, Cat Scratch Fever,

Frogsterking

)
6

Frogsterking

(ProfessorDrapion,

Enchant

, Taly, PookyTheMagicalBear,

Lukewarm

,

Mathblade

)

3 Taly (

Malakittens

,

Bell

,

Cephrir

)
3

Dunnstral

(BlueBloodedToffee,

Roden

, JohnnyFarrar)

2 JohnnyFarrar (Off the Hook, RCEnigma)

1

Enchant

(

T-Bone

)
1 Dancing Puppets (Best Bird)
1 PookyTheMagicalBear (

Dwlee99

)

Not Voting (MalcolmTucker, Cytosine and Guanine,

Dunnstral

)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Vote Count 1.29

6

Frogsterking

(ProfessorDrapion, Taly, PookyTheMagicalBear,

Mathblade

,

Lukewarm

, JohnnyFarrar)

4 JohnnyFarrar (Off the Hook, RCEnigma, MalcolmTucker,

Cephrir

)
4 Taly (

Malakittens

,

Bell

,

Dunnstral

, Cat Scratch Fever)

3

Malakittens

(Klick,

Bellaphant

,

T-Bone

)

2

Dunnstral

(BlueBloodedToffee,

Roden

)

1 PookyTheMagicalBear (

Dwlee99

)
1 Dancing Puppets (Best Bird)
1

Cephrir

(Dancing Puppets)
1

Lukewarm

(

Frogsterking

)

Not Voting (Cytosine and Guanine, Rad,

Enchant

)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Spoiler: D2 VCs

Vote Count 2.1

7

Mathblade

(

Lukewarm

,

Bell

, Taly, Cat Scratch Fever, BlueBloodedToffee, RCEnigma, Off the Hook)
3 Bluebloodedtoffee (

Mathblade

,

Roden

, Dancing Puppets)
1 JohnnyFarrar (PookyTheMagicalBear)
1

Bellaphant

(ProfessorDrapion)
1 Cytosine and Guanine (Rad)
1 Taly (

Enchant

)

Not Voting (

Bellaphant

,

Dwlee99

, Best Bird, JohnnyFarrar,

Malakittens

,

T-Bone

, Mislim Bait, MalcolmTucker)

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to yeet.

Vote Count 2.3

5

Mathblade

(

Lukewarm

,

Bell

, Taly, RCEnigma, PookyTheMagicalBear)
4 Bluebloodedtoffee (

Mathblade

,

Roden

, Mislim Bait, Cat Scratch Fever)

3 Cytosine and Guanine (Rad, BlueBloodedToffee,

T-Bone

)

1

Enchant

(Dancing Puppets)
1

Bellaphant

(ProfessorDrapion)
1 Dancing Puppets (

Enchant

)

Not Voting (

Bellaphant

,

butterchurn

, Best Bird, JohnnyFarrar,

Malakittens

, MalcolmTucker, Cytosine and Guanine, Off the Hook)

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to yeet.

Vote Count 2.4

12

Mathblade

(

Bell

, Taly, RCEnigma, ProfessorDrapion,

butterchurn

, Cat Scratch Fever, MalcolmTucker, Rad, PookyTheMagicalBear, Best Bird, Off the Hook,

Bellaphant

)

4 Cytosine and Guanine (BlueBloodedToffee,

T-Bone

,

Lukewarm

, JohnnyFarrar)

2 Bluebloodedtoffee (

Mathblade

,

Roden

)

1 MalcolmTucker (Mislim Bait)
1

Enchant

(Dancing Puppets)
1 Dancing Puppets (

Enchant

)

Not Voting (

Malakittens

, Cytosine and Guanine)

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to yeet.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Mislim, Yeet and Butter all haven't posted for 6 days+

[BlueBloodedToffee]

OK, so I ISO'd Johnny because I don't have much of a read there and my only thoughts come from potential Bella spew.

Spoiler: Johnny on Frog

VOTE: Frogster

This is his vote on Frog. It is naked and without reasoning. This vote stays for a decent amount of time and through a period where there is a good amount of pressure on Frog; I don't particularly like this because the reasoning is almost non-existent the entire time.

For the record I like a frog vote. Dude seems shady.

Frogger seems to be... fake? Like sometimes they'll post something and I'll think to myself "there's no way they actually believe this"

Some explanation for Frog vote but it really doesn't amount to much.

Stand BACK while I post my ROCK SOLID D1 case on Frogger everybody. It'll have quotes and everything

This never comes. Not too much longer after this;

7 Frogsterking (JohnnyFarrar, Roden, Lukewarm, Galron, BlueBloodedToffee, Dancing Puppets, Enchant)

5 BlueBloodedToffee (Dunnstral, Cat Scratch Fever, Frogsterking, Cephrir, PenguinPower)

Considering Frog's wagon was the leading wagon and pressure was building, I think Johnny's vote looks really bad.

I had a quick look at Frog's ISO to see what he was doing during this time:

Declares a 'very confident' scum read on Malcolm
Scum reading Malcolm, OtH and Bella 466
Retracts scum read on Malcolm due to trusting his town reads
Moves onto voting Bella and SR Johnny for his naked vote 477
Starts to scum read Galron
OMGUS Ceph
OMGUS BBT
Thinks at least one of BBT/DP is scum - DP read fluctuates a fair bit
Wants to elim Corwin, Roden, BBT 1144 DP is added not long after 1260
Reverses his read on Johnny thinking he is uninformed - says this read was helped by Rad 1221
Goes back to voting Ceph
Pushes Corwin again
Town leans Corwin and starts pushing Johnny again for his vote on Frog. Leads to a vote on Johnny
Then he votes Bella
Moves off Bella and onto Ceph

Then this;

Wagon hop wagon hop

VOTE: Malcolm

Pedit no frog do Mal

All of that from Frog happens in a relatively short amount of time, approx 3 IRL days.

The main takeaway for me is the fact that Johnny keeps a weak vote on Frog for quite some time and with pressure building. Frog maintains scum reads on either Corwin, Johnny or Bella pretty much the entire time. Do these reads contribute to Johnny being unwilling to move his vote off of Frog? When he moves to Malcolm, it is only because the Frog wagon has completely fallen apart, but I know he returns to Frog later in the Day again. I need to see how this progresses but because this took me way longer than I thought it was going to, I'll have to continue it another time.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I can't vote Rad in good faith. If he is scum, well played.

UNVOTE:

Mislim, some general thoughts on the game?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

First, thanks for noticing me!

This made me laugh. The game is kind of like that though

[BlueBloodedToffee]

then vote rad

bleh I dont like malcolm
but luke was the person I last saw doing real cases this game and I know he's town
so whatever
VOTE: rad

If Rad flips green, Mislim is going next.

Worst vote by a mile.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I don't think Rad ever flips scum in this game.

VOTE: Johnny

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I don't think Malcolm is scum either though?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Why is Johnny town again?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'll consolidate on Malcolm if needed

[BlueBloodedToffee]

It's funny that people think Johnny is townier than Rad and Malcolm.

If they're both town, which seems likely, it's no wonder there is no noise anywhere else.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

It's funny that people think Johnny is townier than Rad and Malcolm.

If they're both town, which seems likely, it's no wonder there is no noise anywhere else.

Do you think all the wagons we ran up yesterday were on town? I think it's unlikely, no?

All wagons we ran up in D1 were on town. Someone said that was unlikely then, too, if I remember right.

Why couldn't it be the same here?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Sure, I forgot about that one. I was mainly thinking about what seemed to be the 3 main wagons in Ceph, Frog and myself.

We also ran up Ceph, Frog, BBT, Roden, Mala. I remember when it was Ceph/Grog/myself and there were a few schools of thought that one of us must be scum.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

That's not what he said?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

That's a good post.

Pooky's cop checks were dire.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You don't think you would check someone middle of the ground or maybe a widely scum read player?

T-bone is kind of OK I guess, Luke was a bad check though.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You don't think Luke would come under any suspicion at all if he were alive on D10?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

VOTE: Rad