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Death is best reward.In post 90, Gamma Emerald wrote:You could do that but it would provide about a 25% chance you get voted out
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don't call me wizard dude, dudeIn post 102, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
you can join too wizard dudeIn post 100, Enchant wrote:Pooky trying to scam my teamWizard-Mercenary
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Hello, i am this person who ruin fun in games.
There's announcement.
I will look who has how much money. Wasting money on ANYTHING is anti-town and will yeld vote atleast from me. Everyone advised to get atleast 500 for endgame.
Team Swap has power to confirm townies/mafia in ELO. Therefore, mechanically speaking, it's only item worth buying, as others are gimmicks/openly trash/useful only for mafia.
Spoiler: Example how it works
I still interrogating mod about this, but that's it.Wizard-Mercenary
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In specific situation yes.In post 133, furtiveglance wrote:Enchant are you saying we could have some kind of auto?
As example in my previous post:
Town issues challenge to Town.
Town swaps self with Mafia.
Another Town swaps self with Town.
Mafia is outed, because they can't swap self.
But it's just theory, and most useful usage of items. Don't bank on ELO.Wizard-Mercenary
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You look weird with sniffing monitor.In post 131, Lazy Shirou wrote:enchant u smellWizard-Mercenary
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500 per player. Not hard to get, you get 250 for proposal of Challenge and 100 for Vote on elim.In post 144, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Team Swap costs 500 so someone would need to save 1000 and go into ELo for that strat to work in a way that doesn’t just lose the gameIn post 135, Enchant wrote:
In specific situation yes.In post 133, furtiveglance wrote:Enchant are you saying we could have some kind of auto?
As example in my previous post:
Town issues challenge to Town.
Town swaps self with Mafia.
Another Town swaps self with Town.
Mafia is outed, because they can't swap self.
But it's just theory, and most useful usage of items. Don't bank on ELO.
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YesIn post 223, Firebringer wrote:Wizard-Mercenary
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Furtive said he will not help me to quickhammer you so yes, you are aliveIn post 783, SirCakez wrote:am I dead or should I readWizard-Mercenary
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please stop townreading me or mafia will think i am actually useful and shot meIn post 805, Shirou wrote:
Hm? I don't know what you mean but I do think you're the towniest slot so far in the game EnchantIn post 799, Enchant wrote:Is this because i voted PookyWizard-Mercenary
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Skill issueIn post 881, Thestatusquo wrote: I found the mech thing from enchant to be really townie but they've basically done nothing since then and honestly everyone always tells me enchant is easy to read but I can't figure him out so like I guess just stick with the town point vibes until I need to reevaluate.
Even i can read myself easily.Wizard-Mercenary
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In post 1466, Thestatusquo wrote:The point of arguing in mafia games is too win primarily if you're scum. Town shouldn't really care about "winning" the argument most of the time.Wizard-Mercenary
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So in 60% cases Gamma townread Town!Cakez and in 60% cases Gamma scumread Mafia!Cakez.In post 1445, Shirou wrote:ladies and gentleman this is the mathematical verdict and you should only ever trust numbers:
(i have mostly CTRL+F "Cakez" in the Gamma's linked games so I may have missed something perhaps)
out of the 5 scum!Cakez games Gamma linked, she correctly suspected him in 3, making it a 3/5 or 60% correct scum rate. We're also counting towards this cases where she didn't follow the read to the end which is a bit charitable but still makes sense because suspicion is suspicion.
out of the 5 town!Cakez games linked, Gamma correctly identified town!him to the end in 2/5 or 3/5 of the games (depending on whether we count the one where Cakez was replaced, and honestly...I kinda don't count) so to me it's more of a 2/5 rate (40%) but I can consider the 3/5 (60%) if it needs to be.
(I'm not counting the hydra game as a correct town read because I didn't see anything other than suspicious of him in your hydra's ISO, and it feels like you only mention him as a TR once he's cleared by ?fire?)
the mathematical rate of Gamma correctly identifying to me seems like either 60% or 50%. Maybe you could argue that we need to adjust for the fact that scum is significantly more rare to roll than town but idk i'm too lazy for that.
my conclusion is that Gamma is decent at reading Cakez but not amazing and suspects him more than not
nowadays when i hear people saying "i know how to read X trust me" i'm always suspicious because the mathematical calculation of their claims often isn't that good
i'm a cynical man that only truly trusts inmath!
So there's 50% chance that Gamma is either Right or Wrong.
... Well i go toss coin. Tails we believe gamma, heads, we don't believe gamma.
Tsk.Wizard-Mercenary
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In post 1504, Gamma Emerald wrote:
I’ll take those odds.In post 1499, Enchant wrote:Universe will die.
4 tails, 6 heads.
Sorry, we still living.Wizard-Mercenary
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Spoiler:In post 1711, Gamma Emerald wrote:Force challenge (750) put two teams into a challenge, without having to be one of them
Negate Challenge (800) cancels current challenge, current challenge cannot be re-enacted outside of ELo
Immunity (1000) cannot be voted out in current challenge
Team Swap (500) change one team in a current challenge for another
Double Voter (400) gain 1 extra vote, not stackable
Triple Voter (900) gain 2 extra votes, not stackable
Loved (400) take one more vote to lim
Messenger (200) send someone a message in private
Hated (700) make another player take 1 less vote to lim
Team Player (250) give an item you're currently holding to someone else
Scum Mystery Box (cost varies) usable by town only, let's scum pick an item and price for you
some details may be lacking but I was aiming for maximum brevity here
All suck, but Messenger and Team Player suck deeper.
I have no idea, why you even could buy it. There's NO item worth sending to any teammate (no really, why) and messenger...
Eh. Like why...Wizard-Mercenary
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Or we can not yolochallenges.In post 1717, T-Bone wrote:
I know I am a biased party atm but swapping teams in the challenges and forcing challenges sounds like pretty good utility for town.In post 1713, Enchant wrote:
Spoiler:In post 1711, Gamma Emerald wrote:Force challenge (750) put two teams into a challenge, without having to be one of them
Negate Challenge (800) cancels current challenge, current challenge cannot be re-enacted outside of ELo
Immunity (1000) cannot be voted out in current challenge
Team Swap (500) change one team in a current challenge for another
Double Voter (400) gain 1 extra vote, not stackable
Triple Voter (900) gain 2 extra votes, not stackable
Loved (400) take one more vote to lim
Messenger (200) send someone a message in private
Hated (700) make another player take 1 less vote to lim
Team Player (250) give an item you're currently holding to someone else
Scum Mystery Box (cost varies) usable by town only, let's scum pick an item and price for you
some details may be lacking but I was aiming for maximum brevity here
All suck, but Messenger and Team Player suck deeper.
I have no idea, why you even could buy it. There's NO item worth sending to any teammate (no really, why) and messenger...
Eh. Like why...
... Wow. Did i really write that?
Like yeah, they could, but it's specific. That's why they atleast HAVE some utility.
But messenger and team player are Terrible.
Well fairly i also forgot. Imunnity is best item so far.Wizard-Mercenary
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So you can be scammedIn post 1922, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Sending a message doesn't sound too valuable so i'm gonna save up my money. Also wtf is the point of the scum mystery box.Wizard-Mercenary
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If you say so.In post 1941, Alisae wrote:
I do not want to vote any of the 4 players at this time.In post 1937, furtiveglance wrote:
You think none are mafia?In post 1934, Alisae wrote:
I want him to swap first.In post 1930, furtiveglance wrote:
?In post 1928, Alisae wrote:
Why would I swap out his swap that doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.In post 1926, furtiveglance wrote:Shirou has no incentive to swap if he knows you'll just swap it again. So I think we're waiting on something that will never happen
If anything the both of us are completely disinterested in voting the current pool of players
I thought you were suspicious of Shirou, and wanted to wait for him to mess with things before you did
I also want a new selection of 4 players to vote cuz this challenge sucks
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WhyIn post 1949, Alisae wrote:
I ant Shirou to swap firstIn post 1947, Enchant wrote:Then why you still waitingWizard-Mercenary
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Can i lose "so town" status but be spared from talking from you for this moment?In post 1965, Haschel Cedricson wrote:
Then why aren't you doing anything to figure out which of those four is scum, if any? I just looked back at your posts and while you are voting for Pooky you didn't give any reasoning and you haven't mentioned him at all since post 807. SirCakez doesn't get a mention after 1491. You have only addressed T-Bone a single time in 1721, and your last interactions with Gamma were a coinflip to see if you trusted her read and a reply in 1713 that was about a list Gamma posted but nothing about Gamma herself.In post 1950, Enchant wrote:I am sceptical that all 4 players are town and wasting swaps d1 is kind of... Waste
Wasting is waste
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14 players, 4 mafia
Chance of 4 players choosen to be devoid of mafia pretty small.
If they watch each other and try to force wasting of money, then maybe it's not like they trust each other enough to remove from suspect list?
I just think having swaps later is more useful, when there will be atleast some info in matter of flipsWizard-Mercenary
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Eh.In post 1993, Firebringer wrote:
Wait how this happenedWizard-Mercenary
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You won't understand my waysIn post 2104, Save The Dragons wrote:why aren't you votingWizard-Mercenary
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